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SCO Hints at *BSD Lawsuits Next Year, And More

shystershep writes "Apparently attacking one Unix-like OS isn't enough. According to Darl McBride, SCO has plans to target BSD. "The more yarn you pull out the more you see," according to McBride. They're a little preoccupied with the IBM litigation right now, though, so "we probably won't file any suits against BSD until sometime in the first half of next year." Hmmm. I can't imagine why SCO executives feel that they need to hire bodyguards." How to get at the *BSDs? vireo writes "In this Newsforge story, we learn that Boies, Schiller & Flexner will directly attack the 1994 AT&T/BSD settlement." Read on below for another handful of updates on the giant SCO lawsuit frenzy.

osullish writes "The Financial Times reports that SCO is indicating it will sue an as-yet un-named Linux-using corporation within the next 90 days. Also mentioned in the article is possible action against Novell, which recently purchased Ximian and SUSE Linux."

Iaitos points to this rather stiffly-worded notice from Novell (on their site) regarding the non-compete agreement SCO claims would taint Novell's acquisition of SUSE:

PROVO, Utah Nov. 18, 2003: Novell has seen the November 18 InfoWorld article in which SCO CEO Darl McBride refers to a supposed non-compete agreement between Novell and SCO. Mr. McBride's characterization of the agreements between Novell and SCO is inaccurate. There is no non-compete provision in those contracts, and the pending acquisition of SUSE LINUX does not violate any agreement between Novell and SCO.

Novell has received no formal communication from SCO on this particular issue. Novell understands its rights under the contracts very well, and will respond in due course should SCO choose to formally pursue this issue."

slavitos points to a ZDNet article covering the same ground, writing: "A characteristic SCO twist in the story: "McBride added that lawsuits likely will be preceded and possibly prevented by communications offering businesses an opportunity to get right with SCO. "We'll be communicating with users what our expectations are," he said.". Oh, that's helpful, Darl - and no, we didn't really expect you to be any more specific."

If your lips aren't yet too tired, ansak writes "PJ has done it again -- okay, "co-ordinated it" would be the better phrase. The transcript of SCOG's conference call is now available (and in danger of being slashdotted without slashdot's help, even!).
#include <std.thanks.to.volunteers.h>"

Another legal theory being thrown about is that SCO's lawsuit (the one against IBM, that is) all leads back to Sequent. Petrol writes "The Inquirer has a story about SCO's action against IBM. 'Sources close to the action describe a trail of code that might well be the target of SCO's ire against IBM and the Linux community.'"

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  1. I wonder what the airspeed velocity... by corebreech · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...of an unladen SCO bodyguard is?

    1. Re:I wonder what the airspeed velocity... by rootofevil · · Score: 1, Funny

      probably about 9.8m/s2

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    2. Re:I wonder what the airspeed velocity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Does anyone remember that accountant that fell out of one of HP corporate jets a couple of years ago? Maybe we could talk HP into booking that plane for the SCOX executive staff.

    3. Re:I wonder what the airspeed velocity... by ameoba · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think the bodyguards are just another PR stunt. Seriously, if the guys who ran Enron into the ground (and destroyed thousands of people's plans for the future) haven't been whacked yet, nobody's going to hit a SCO exec. ...unless it's an SCO sponsored hitman, so that SCO can sue the bodyguard company for failing to protect the client and then sue IBM claiming they were behind the hit.

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    4. Re:I wonder what the airspeed velocity... by pimpinmonk · · Score: 2, Funny

      699.00m/s, obviously

    5. Re:I wonder what the airspeed velocity... by bgs4 · · Score: 2, Funny

      an african or european bodyguard?

    6. Re:I wonder what the airspeed velocity... by fireman+sam · · Score: 2, Funny

      The only interesting velocity is the velocity of the SCO director just before they hit the ground. The velocity of the bodyguard should only be taken into account if they land on the director.

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  2. Diagnosis by k98sven · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The more yarn you pull out the more you see," according to McBride.

    Yup... Paranoia's like that.

    1. Re:Diagnosis by afidel · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought he was talking about the yarns he's been pulling out of his arse for months now =)

      Note to mod's:
      A yarn is a newengland colloquialism for a tall tale.

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    2. Re:Diagnosis by Rimbo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Eventually SCO will have no clothes left and die of exposure.

    3. Re:Diagnosis by dipipanone · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yup... Paranoia's like that.

      And lest we forget, paranoia is a symptom of cocaine psychosis.

      Put that pipe down now, Darl, before it's too late.

    4. Re:Diagnosis by thrillbert · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, you might not be that far off. In many cases, a brain tumor can cause a distorted perception of the truth and/or paranoia. And given how Mr. McBride has acted these past few months, I would greatly encourage him to get a CT scan to ensure that he's not going to croak in the next few hours.

      I know that it sounds a bit far fetched, but it might not be too far off the truth..

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    5. Re:Diagnosis by McAddress · · Score: 4, Funny

      i would have thought he got his degree from one of those nigerian spammers.

    6. Re:Diagnosis by TekPolitik · · Score: 2, Funny
      Higher Functioning Autism: Part of the (suspected, yet to be proved) Autism Spectrum. Typically, the person will be extremely brilliant at a very few things. They will be prone to information overload, and often learn quickly to focus on very specific things. They're oblivious to anything outside of that, or near enough.

      So now we know why some people go on to get a PhD.

  3. We get it already, SCO by ultrabot · · Score: 4, Funny

    We *know* you want to show everybody how big a pain in the ass you are and that someone should just buy you out. It's just not going to happen.

    I'm also starting to hope that Boies will share the cell...

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    1. Re:We get it already, SCO by scrytch · · Score: 2, Funny

      > I find it very strange that Boies has reached this superstar status on the back of what is by any measure a lacklustre litigation record.

      Maybe it's because we're all mesmerized by his eclectic blend of haunting lyrics, thumping funk, and infectious grooves... Oh wait, David Boies? Nevermind...

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    2. Re:We get it already, SCO by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2, Funny

      SVR4 is the merger of SVR3, released in 1987, and BSD UNIX. The gall of it is SVR4 was released in 1989, about the time of the suit, so they were suing UCB about the time they were using their stuff. BSD didn't get off the hook from the SVR3 => SVR4 changes (these are all allowed by the BSD license) but by showing that stuff in the SVR3 core was infringing on the BSD license.

  4. Breaking News... by blackmonday · · Score: 3, Funny

    Darl McBride now claims ownership of the new Finder in Panther, and Final Cut Pro.

    1. Re:Breaking News... by wintermute740 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Darl McBride now claims ownership of the new Finder in Panther, and Final Cut Pro."

      In other news, SCO is planning on bringing suit with God next. "This God person," SCO CEO Darl McBride is quoted as saying, "has used stolen SCO code repleatedly in the design of Creation."

      Since Darl likens Linux users to drug users, and Darl wants to license Linux to said users, what does that say about Darl? Druglord! I knew it!

    2. Re:Breaking News... by turgid · · Score: 2, Funny
      Darl McBride now claims ownership of the new Finder in Panther, and Final Cut Pro.

      ...but not the Hurd

      *ducks*

    3. Re:Breaking News... by Slime-dogg · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then God gets pissed off because Darl called him a "person."

      Of course, Darl could use "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God." as proof. No one back there knew what that a word was just four nibbles, and God should have recognized that "word" was used in SCO's Source.

      Of course, God then gives proof of using SCO code by causing a segmentation fault right under Lindon, Utah. He wasn't too pleased with those Mormon people either, so it was like two birds with one stone.

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  5. Blind man with a bat by ericspinder · · Score: 5, Funny

    Darl is like a blind man on the street, swinging a bat, hoping someone will pay him to stop. Hopefully, the cops will get him before he does any real damage.

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    1. Re:Blind man with a bat by Target+Practice · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought he was more analogous to the man with his legs and arms cut off in Monty Python's Holy Grail movie: really annoying, maybe bleeding on you, but too persistent to be ignored...

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    2. Re:Blind man with a bat by bugnuts · · Score: 5, Funny


      BLACK KNIGHT: I shall sue.

      ARTHUR: What?

      BLACK KNIGHT: I shall sue.

      ARTHUR: I have no quarrel with you, good Sir Knight, but I will not pay a license fee for free software.

      BLACK KNIGHT: I move for no man.

      ARTHUR: So be it!

      [clang clang clang]
      [ARTHUR files a countersuit for four patents the BLACK KNIGHT is infringing upon]

      ARTHUR: Now stand aside, you litigous adversary.

      BLACK KNIGHT: 'Tis but a scratch!

      ARTHUR: A scratch?! You have no evidence of infringement!

      BLACK KNIGHT: Yes I do.

      ARTHUR: Well, show me then. I'm going to file another motion for discovery!

      BLACK KNIGHT: I've had worse.

      ARTHUR: Liar!

      BLACK KNIGHT: Come on, you pansy!

      [clang clang clang]
      [ARTHUR chops off the BLACK KNIGHT's lawsuit at the knees]

      ARTHUR: Victory is mine!

      BLACK KNIGHT: It's just a flesh wound!
      [headbutts ARTHUR] I'm invincible!

      ARTHUR: You're a looney!

      BLACK KNIGHT: Oh, all right, pay me $100M and we'll call it a draw.

      ARTHUR: Come, Patsy. [clip clop, clip clop]

      BLACK KNIGHT: Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!

  6. Nice quotes by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "However, there are some elements who have an almost religious zealousness about Linux," he [Darl McBride] added. "In some ways, that can be scary for anyone opposing their positions."

    As if SCO's position isn't religious zealotry to the max!

    Then there's sanity on the other side:

    "I just don't buy it," said Bruce Perens, a Berkeley, Calif.-based Linux developer and open source advocate. " This is just an effort to discredit the open-source community.
    "If there were real threats, the police would be there instead of husky fellows with radio tubes in their heads," he said.

    1. Re:Nice quotes by Kombat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wouldn't they have to be "open source" bodyguards though? What would that mean, exactly? Would they publish maps of their transportation routes on their web site? Would they wear their guns on the outsides of their jackets?

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  7. Better be the first half of next year... by IvyMike · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...because no way does SCO still exist in the second half.

  8. bodyguards by Dreadlord · · Score: 4, Funny
    Hmmm. I can't imagine why SCO executives feel that they need to hire bodyguards.

    Isn't it clear why? Linux peguin looks quite friendly and isn't harmful at all, BSD daemon on the other hand...

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    1. Re:bodyguards by anachattak · · Score: 3, Funny

      Let's see: threatening global commercial powers with ruin unless they succumb to his outrageous demands, central headquarters filled with an army of evil bodyguards and assorted henchmen......Darl's only a monocle and kitty cat away from true super villainy. Wonder where he's hiding the huge frickin laser? (hmmmmm)

    2. Re:bodyguards by Papyrus · · Score: 2, Funny
      Linux peguin looks quite friendly and isn't harmful at all

      They might be worried that the Linux penguin is related to that penguin in the "Wallace & Gromit" feature...

    3. Re:bodyguards by Piquan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen a angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph. They'd be a lot more careful about what they say if they had.
      -- Linus Torvalds

  9. Finally an Answer!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    An answer to "What is up Darl McBride's ass?"
    The more yarn you pull out the more you see
    Turns out it's an entire ball of yarn!
  10. Wait -- I'm confused by GuyMannDude · · Score: 1, Funny

    I thought BSD was dying. I could swear I read that somewhere...

    GMD

    1. Re:Wait -- I'm confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      After SCO successfully sues Theo for the $1758.29 in his checking account, *BSD will truly be dead.

  11. Watch out! by BJZQ8 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hear that SCO has found gratuitous use of the letters S, C, and O in BSD source code! Obviously there must be payment rendered!

  12. To all BSD users, by Idou · · Score: 3, Funny

    Welcome to the club. Glad to have you aboard.

    Where shall we meet to plan the complete and utter extermination of SCO?

    Sincerely,
    Tux

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  13. Re:Time to create a pariah... by CatGrep · · Score: 4, Funny

    You're forgetting that they live in Utah. They've probably already got a years supply of computers, power and water stored up.

  14. missed one by pyros · · Score: 2, Funny

    I found this about 20 minutes ago on news.google.com. My favorite Darl quote: "First it's not our customers. I would say we're suing end users. There are only two industries who use the term 'users,' computers and drugs. Not sure if there's a connection there". So now we're all communist junkies.

  15. yarn huh? by rootofevil · · Score: 2, Funny

    more like drugs.

    whats a good CEO/addict reference without a penny arcade link? it looks like daryl and mark are on the same batch of smack too.

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  16. what are they afraid of? by Flunitrazepam · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bodyguards... please.

    Anyone who would get mad enough to threaten them probably barely has the strength to lift a pie to heft at them.

    Bill Gates is still alive, after all.

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  17. What planet are they on? by caferace · · Score: 3, Funny
    SCO, McBride and their lawyers are like Tribbles, only not cute and fuzzy.

    They keep on multiplying, getting in the way and serving no apparent purpose.

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  19. Re:It may be a good thing by haystor · · Score: 3, Funny

    BSD might have stolen something from SCO, after all, it is dying.

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  20. Sig by geekoid · · Score: 1, Funny

    "I have a red sign on my door. It says "If this sign is blue, you're going too fast.""

    dear God, I about sprayed soda all over my monitor when I read that.

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  21. Re:BSD network code by LilJC · · Score: 2, Funny

    The may sue, even win, but they'll never make *me* pay for MS software!

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  22. Re:Important rule of litigation: by thinkninja · · Score: 2, Funny

    And BSD is still techinically property of the Regents of the University of California.

    looks like a job for the governator.

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  23. IBM has a special ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Funny

    lawyer farm in upstate NY where they breed them. Their typical yearly output in farm-fresh, free-range lawyers is 3 times the output of all of the "Law Schools" put together. And IBM raises them organically, not pumping them full of antibiotics and growth hormones like Hardvard, Yale, Columbia and such.

  24. Re:Important rule of litigation: by surprise_audit · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're assuming SCO are going after one of the parties involved - maybe they're planning on suing the judge for reaching the wrong decision, or AT&T's lawyers for handling the case badly?

  25. Reminds me of a B5 quote by yellowstone · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Only an idiot fights a war on two fronts. Only the heir to the throne of the Kingdom of Idiots would fight a war on twelve fronts."
    Londo Mollari
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  26. Re:Its over the dinosaur is dead by fritter · · Score: 2, Funny

    The big worry will be what happens when sco does give up the ghost. Theres alot of people that depend on the software to run their businesses. They had nothing to do with the lawsuit and will be hurt when the message does at last get to the brain of the beast.

    Well, judging by how much code Linux has stolen from SCO, it shouldn't be hard for them to switch.

  27. ATT by trybywrench · · Score: 2, Funny

    it'd be interesting to see ATT get involved.

    if IBM is the 800 lb gorilla that you don't pick a fight with then ATT is the demon you hope you never even *see* let alone start poking with a stick.

    now the market is starting to turn on them as well...
    the end is near SCO

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  28. Linux emulation on the *BSDs by newdaemon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Having used various *BSDs for years now, I'm always amazed at how well the Linux emulation works. Today, the *BSDs have added the ability to emulate Linux lawsuits. This completely blows away any type of emulation done on any other system, ever. ;^)

  29. Re:BSD? by pmz · · Score: 2, Funny


    "Hey Darl, what do you want to do tonight?"

    "Same thing we do every night, try to take over the world!"

  30. Oblig Subway comment by HomerJayS · · Score: 2, Funny
    "The Financial Times reports that SCO is indicating it will sue an as-yet un-named Linux-using corporation within the next 90 days. Also mentioned in the article is possible action against Novell, which recently purchased Ximian and SUSE Linux."

    It's OK, they had Subway for lunch.

    Subway, good so you don't always have to be.

  31. Unnamed corporation... by Julz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Headline: Cat chases tail...

    In a strange turnabout SCO sues itself for using Linux http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=sco.com

    Fourth quarter earnings will show a revenue of 1 billion dollars from litigation of company using Linux and a writeoff of 1 billion dollars worth of shares.

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  32. Re:This must be the new SCO business model by tbone1 · · Score: 3, Funny
    This just in: Darl McBride was seen dumping a cup of coffee on his lap at a McDonald's drive-thru and immediately sued McDonald's, Juan Valdez, that old biddy who did it in the 90s (making an infringement of SCO's copywrong), Starbuck's, DuPont as the inventor of styrofoam, British comedienne Denise Coffey, Minnesota farmer Ole McDonald, and Marvin Percolator (sole heir to the fortune).

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  33. Re:Important rule of litigation: by SalsaDoom · · Score: 2, Funny

    Those FOOLS

    They fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia." and "Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line." but only slightly less well known is "Never get into a legal battle with a University when IP involved!"

    bwahhaahahah!!

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  34. How long until... by rdr2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You start seeing the rear window stickers ala the chevy boy pissing on the ford trademark, redone to Tux pissing on SCO?

  35. Kind of amazing actually.... by Danse · · Score: 3, Funny

    Darl has taken trolldom to a higher level. Slashdot trolls can only stand agape and marvel at his trollish magnificence, hoping that one day they'll be 1/10th the troll he is.

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  36. But hold on... by anarchyboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Surely BSD will be dead by then anyway.

  37. Enter geeky conspiracy theory... by Kjella · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone see SCO as the Centauri, and Microsoft lurking in the back as the Shadows?

    That big alliance forming of everybody vs. SCO seems to add up too. And IBM playing the Vorlons, the silent old powerful beings.

    Ok, so it's not a very original theory... but it got a lot funnier as a B5 conspiracy theory :)

    Kjella

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    1. Re:Enter geeky conspiracy theory... by bnenning · · Score: 3, Funny
      Hmm...Apple as the Minbari works pretty well. Years ago they lost a war they could easily have won (by licensing their OS), but are now allies, and have fanatical followers ("We live for the Steve, we die for the Steve"). And in collaboration with IBM they've produced the White Star fleet, er, the dual G5.


      Man, do I need a life.

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  38. Re:Apple? by jc42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, it almost certainly includes OSX, since it includes a lot of BSD.

    What I've been thinking is: I'm running linux and OSX at home. I need to revive one of those old machines down in the basement and get, say, FreeBSD running on it. Then I'll be in the line of fire for all of SCO's attacks.

    Or maybe I'm missing something? What else should I have running?

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  39. Coordinates by Sazarac · · Score: 2, Funny
    In case any of you big-giant-brain types want to re-task a satellite to degrade orbit and "splash down" in Las Vegas, here's the coordinates of Mandalay Bay:

    3950 Las Vegas Blvd. South
    Las Vegas, Nv , 89193-8880
    Longitude: 115.1727, Latitude: 36.0922

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  40. Next on COPS by gladbach · · Score: 2, Funny

    smelly, long haired man wearing taped glasses and a T-shirt with the DECSS code on it, attacks executive with railgun he made in his garage. Violent video games were blamed for the incident. Also found on his person were caffeine pills, a computer edited picture of natalie portman with what looks like grits poured all over her, and something witnesses can only describe as slimy hollow tube of squishy rubber....

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  41. Re:Or unless by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seriously, if the guys who ran Enron into the ground (and destroyed thousands of people's plans for the future) haven't been whacked yet, nobody's going to hit a SCO exec

    Unless of course, SCO sues Apple. Then some Apple Zealot is bound to go on a SCO rampage.

    PS I'm an Apple Zealot

  42. But... by Trejkaz · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought that OSX meant OSX iS uniX. ;-)

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