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What's Coming in Solaris 10
raptor21 writes "Ace's hardware has an article with feature list of technologies in Solaris 10 or whatever it is called today. Interesting stuff like DTrace, FireEngine, military grade security and a new filesystem called ZFS, Zetabyte File System."
I thought it already had military grade security. After all Solaris was the first OS to earn Common Criteria certification.
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Some of the military IS using Trusted Solaris. Right now, however, it's a seperate Solaris release. In Solaris 10 or whatever the name is going to be, it is supposed to be integrated.
7 November 2006: The day Americans realized corruption and incompetence weren't addressing 11 September 2001
Pay how much for Solaris? It is a free download for SPARC and $10 for x86
Why would you want to pay through nose for a proprietary,
I suppose conforming to open API's doesn't count?
no-support,
I daresay Sun's support is broader and better than Red Hat's any day.
closed source *nix
So your real problem is that Sun doesn't give away all of their IP for free then, right? Sorry, but not everyone believes that the communal ideal of share and share alike is a viable business model.
7 November 2006: The day Americans realized corruption and incompetence weren't addressing 11 September 2001
Lots of cool sounding projects names, but I still don't see a lot of exciting features. I'm under the impression that Sun is still playing catch up with other major Unix players. Dtrace, a new monitoring tool ? Sheesh, these things are already implemented by most sysadmins. Oh, and we can now dynamically create soft partitions? God, LVM had this for years. Just try increasing a partition size under Solaris8 (or 9) with Disksuite, without switching to single user mode. In HP/UX or Linux, that's just 3 or 4 commands.
I wonder what they will charge for the upgrade. Sun wisely made the Solaris 8 -> Solaris 9 move free for developers and home users. (They have home users?)
Your comment shows a huge lack of knowledge about Sun and Solaris licensing. If you purchase a system from Sun you have a right-to-use license for any version of Solaris you want to put on it. If you bought your system from some other vendor (aka Intel), then you have a right-to-use license for only 1 CPU. Any more than that you must purchase licenses. Sun doesn't charge for upgrades, other than the media price itself. When Solaris 10 is released, go ahead and put it on your Ultra 5 or Sun Blade 150, or whatever you have. No worries there.
Also, unless you are just trolling, you should be aware that Sun has shipped the Gnome 2.0 desktop environment with Solaris 8 for the last year or so. KDE also comes on the Open Source software CD included with Solaris 8.
No wonder they are losing billions.
Last I checked, Sun was merely losing millions, not billions. While this is still a bad thing, they do have ~$5 billion in the bank and won't be going away any time soon.
Go back to your bridge and quit spreading FUD, troll.
"When the president does it, that means it's not illegal." - Richard M. Nixon
[puts on tin foil cap]
Carousel is a lie!
That's "Zettabyte", guys, not "Zetabyte", as the referenced article correctly states, too. Now go and write down the SI prefixes 100 times.
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Look. I just got a Sun Blade 150. I guarantee Gnome is not in there nor is there an option to use it. I searched the help files and there is nothing about Gnome. This is a brand new system.
Ok, I'm going to walk you through this since you're obviously new to Solaris. Open up your Solaris 8 media kit (you know, the big box you got with Solaris 8). Hopefully you purchased a media kit along with your system or you might be screwed. Find a plastic binder called "Bonus Software". In there there is a CD called "Exploring the Gnome Desktop". Pop that in your CD-ROM and install it. Gnome is now installed and you can choose it from the login screen. There's another CD in that same Bonus Software pack called "Software Companion" that has tons of Open Source software, including KDE. If you install that you'll have GCC and a bunch of other great GNU and open source stuff. I highly recommend you do that.
I hope Solaris 10 is free. The last time I bought a Sun it wasn't free.
Solaris 10 will be free in the same way that Solaris 8 and 9 are. If you bought a system from Sun, you already purchased a Right-to-Use license (it's bundled into the cost of the hardware). All you have to pay for is a media kit. When you said "last time I bought a Sun it wasn't free." I think you're talking about paying $70 for a media kit. This seems like a lot but look at how big those boxes of media are. It probably costs close to that amount to manufacture all of the CDs and manuals in there.
"When the president does it, that means it's not illegal." - Richard M. Nixon
Exactly where can you download Solaris 9 x86 from?
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I'd love to play with it but I can't seem to find a FREE download link on their site. They want either $20 or $95 for a media kit by mail.
http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/g
Are you an open source warrior?
You're right, zetabyte is clearly a buzzword, while zettabyte is totally different. A zettabyte is 2^70 bytes or (in the notation of hard drive manufacturers) 10^21 bytes (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000).
And for the record (biggest to smallest):
yottabyte (2^80 bytes)
zettabyte (2^70 bytes)
exabyte (2^60 bytes)
petabyte (2^50 bytes )
terabyte (2^40 bytes )
gigabyte (2^30 bytes)
The "Military Grade" security is an easy way to understand what Trusted Solaris is. TS has been developed in parallel with "Vanilla" Solaris since 2.5.1, with the goal of folding features into one code base. With Solaris 8 the Role Based Administration features was introduced, but so far not a lot of shops have figured out how to use it. The final phase that they are set to "unleash" into mainstream Solaris is the "Multi-Level" tagging, where filesystems, process, console X windows, and network packets all receive a Security Label. In the Military world, this would be Unclass, Secret, Top Secret, etc. For the Commercial world this would be Public, For Internal Use Only, Confidential, Confidential HR, Conf. Legal, Conf. Eng, etc. Actually a pretty good way to protect internal resources, but the administration overhead sucks!
you should really turn on logging... it increases the speed threefold. It's retarded that they don't shout it across the hills (you have to stumble across it in the manpages or newsgroups). just add "logging" to the mount options in vfstab.
Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
When you order SUN hardware, be sure to pull down the selection box on the keyboard and select PC Style Keyboard. You will be happy you did. There are ALOT of lazy aquisition folks who screw their customers by not learning what options would best meet their needs.
Is there any official definition of what "Military Grade" means?
Yes, the Orange Book.
NO CARRIER
1) create a file system snapshot using fssnap and back that up.
/your/volume
2)
mount -o remount,ro,nologging
backup
then remount,rw,logging
The remount will cause the log to be finalized, buffers flushed. You are advised to remount ro if you want ufsdump to have the highest chance of success (it can still fail if logging is disable, but it still is mounted rw)
Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
You mean except for the $995 workstations and servers they've been selling the past three years?
went to see about the free solaris 9 download a few days ago. Actualy read through the license agreement until I got up to this gem:
(j) Notice of Automatic Downloads. You acknowledge that, by your use of Software and/or requesting services that require use of Software, Software may automatically download, install, and execute software applications from sources other than Sun ("Other Software"). Sun makes no representations of a relationship of any kind to licensors of Other Software. TO THE EXTENT NOT PROHIBITED BY LAW, IN NO EVENT WILL SUN OR ITS LICENSORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY LOST REVENUE, PROFIT OR DATA, OR FOR SPECIAL, INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL, INCIDENTAL OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES, HOWEVER CAUSED REGARDLESS OF THE THEORY OF LIABILITY, ARISING OUT OF OR RELATED TO THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE OTHER SOFTWARE, EVEN IF SUN HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
Fuck that.
-Justin