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Linux 2.6.0-test11 Kernel Released
An anonymous reader writes "Linus Torvalds has released his final 2.6.0-test kernel, calling it the 'Beaver In Detox'. Following this release, Linus says that 2.6 development will be led by Andrew Morton. The kernel's name refers in jest to the previous release, which Linus had named "Stoned Beaver". It contains a fix for the aic7xxx driver, proper error handling in do_fork(), some firewire fixes, and correction of a few skbuff leakage points. Download it from a kernel.org mirror."
proper error handling in do_fork()
So you could say the previous version was forked up?
So will the release of 2.6.0 now be called "Beaver in Rehab?"
Some may scoff at changing a release name to suit customers and corporate supporters, but it is a simple and useful thing to do.
I suggest the next release should go a step further. Something smooth, something that rolls off of the tongue, something like "Clean Shaven Beaver"
No word on a resolution for the problem with pre-empt, at least none that can be seen with a search for "preempt" in the page. :-P
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After the last article about Linus, I was expecting "Beaver as hood ornament"
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BSD is always dying, and now the Tux has hit rock bottom on sex and hard drugs?
Linux must be a fan of the Sex Pistols.
I just compiled test10!
Slacker. I've been running test10 for several day now.
No word on a resolution for the problem with pre-empt, at least none that can be seen with a search for "preempt" in the page. :-P
There's no way this isn't going to sound like an absolute fanboy post but oh well -- how cool is this guy? Doesn't seem at all smug, great sense of humor, and not afraid to tell the world he's got a turkey affinity...not to mention some freudian obsession with beavers all of a sudden. He seems more people-esque instead of acting like a mega-deity (which he is), which is awesome.
/me fades into the background while doing the "We're not worthy!" chant.
Man, if I had my choice in operating systems, I'd want this guy coding it! Oh wait, I do...and sure enough, he does.
It's no wonder that the Linux Kernel development process isn't being taken seriously, what with the childish drug references and sexual innuendo being spouted. We need a wholesome, filth-free name to call the 2.6.0 release. I propose 'squeaky clean beaver'.
Wah!
Is it really necessary to have every test release on the front page?
Yes, as it happens, it is.
Mod me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
Then run xconfig, make sure you've got console support compiled in (this point is key) and off you go. make, make install.
It's worth saying again, no matter how many times it's been said, that Linus and his band of merry coders are doing incredible work. On older machines, like my humble P2/266 laptop, a recompile actually feels faster, a lot faster in fact. If you're running older hardware, it's worth it to give these test kernels a try for that alone, if nothing else.
Mike Hoye
A full discussion of the pre-empt problem can be found here:
http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/1679
This is probably what has been happening to me.
I tried up to -test9, but after a few (2-10) hours, my cpu and disk access would shoot up and RAM usage would slowly increase. I dropped to a tty, typed the username "root", but the cpu load was so hight that login timed out before I was even prompted for a password!
So I had to kill the power on my machine while I could hear that my disk was fully active. I was not a happy camper.
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I was seriously planning a quiet night at home compiling test 9 right before I read this. I was going to stop at the store on the way and pick up a nice bottle of wine, one of those claim jumper tv dinners that feeds a small army, maybe some candles. release 11 - good grief, this changes everything. # times i have recompiled the kernel in the last week - 3 # times i have gotten busy with the girlfriend in the last week - 0
It looks like they are going to ship the kernel without the latest framebuffer things. Last time I made a non -mm kernel, the framebuffers were completely hosed, and I don't think the changes have been merged yet. Am I looney or correct on this?
You should use AdiumX on your Mac.
I thought you had to run Windows to use Front Page?
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Also check out this to see stats about the different 2.6.0-testX versions compile warnings and errors by John Cherry from the OSDL.
I agree. Announcing minor and test versions is only news worthy to the people that are following progress closely, who are likely to know about it anyway. And those people that don't follow it closely are only interested in hearing about major changes since the last time they checked up on a project.
... get back to you roots. Show me stuff that matters.
For example, the launch of Windows 2000 didn't even make a story on Slashdot when it launched in February 2000 even though a development kernel release did. I realize a large portion of Slashdot doesn't use Windows, but it's still significant news for every nerd.
C'mon Slashdot
Now _that's_ a smooth name that just rolls off the tongue... :)
You're so right.
I can take care of the business of compiling the kernel without distraction, now that they have machines that can 'do the work' for the GF.
There are even pay-per-view websites devoted to these things...
'Clean Shaven Beaver'
Looks like Tux has been replaced in Linus' heart. Thats Great! I've always prefered Beaver meat to Penguin. Plus, you can make the coolest hats out of Beaver pelts. Now we just need a name for the little fellow. How about Bux?
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
The reason that this made the front page is that it's the test release prior to the first "production" release of the 2.6 kernel which we have waited 2years + for. Seems only right that this should be on the homepage. Same as todays earlier story on FreeBSD 5.2.
The Romans didn't find algebra very challenging, because X was always 10
At least Linus didn't call it the "SCO, fuck your mama" build ;)
"I bow to no man" - Riddick
You wouldn't think so, but there is a good reason for it. To make a sweeping generalization, Slashdotters want to see Linux succeed, and we have the technical knowledge to compile kernels and make informative bug reports if needs be. Publishing this story on Slashdot will entice more people to test the new kernel, thus ensuring that the 2.6.0 release will be Bug-free(tm).
Litigious bastards
Remember how important audience is. While you and many other slashdotters might not care about test releases, still more probably do.
# times i have recompiled the kernel in the last week - 3
;-)
# times i have gotten busy with the girlfriend in the last week - 0
Huh. How ironic is this.
Number of times I have recompiled the kernel in the last week - 0
Number of times I have gotten busy with your girlfriend in the last week - 3
Beaver with Botox
I just don't wanna know.
Matt
Also, if you're at all unsure of the process used to develop the 2.6.0-testX kernel, there's a handy diagram here...
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
I agree with you, but would take your proposition even further. After the beaver has finished his drug rehab program, it needs to find God. Let us all pray for 'Born Again Beaver.'
Please, the tenth post about the 2.6.0 kernel almost coming out was enough for me. Make it stop.
I disagree. I do not follow Linux kernel development closely, but as a Linux user, the release of 2.6 is very exciting. Reporting each test release helps build the suspense and gets me interested at looking at changelogs and whatnot to see what's going on.
As to minor releases, they often fix problems that are relevant to me. Since I do not regularly check kernel.org (it's the same most of the time), I appreciate the news.
I think you need to reread the name:
Beaver In Detox
Now, let your mind slip a little bit further into the gutter, and I think you will see that he did name it what you said. It's just a little more thinly veiled.
I think his reason for making it vague was that SCO needs to have everything in the open to see things (think GPL code). By making it more vague, they are less likely to be in on the joke.
-- Fighting mediocrity one bad post at a time.
Indeed, unfortunately, this article is cluttered up with people saying slashdot != freshmeat (as usual), and lame beaver jokes.
I think there's one discussion about the pre-empt stuff being fubarred, but that's about it, kinda disappointing there aren't more people taking about the kernel itself. I'm still running test9 on my main box, was gonna compile test10 today, good thing I didn't, or else I'd be one of those ever popular "dang I just compiled version x - 1 an hour ago" people.
When you put 1 milion monkeys with keyboards in a room, open source occurs (taken from the Bazaar and the Cathedral), or a result of similar quality.
Since most open source development is not done by professionals nor professional organizations, there is no formal QA process. As such, Linux is in dire need of testing. Especially with all the unproven claims of stability made in its regard.
It is therefore very important that as wide a variety of people as possible download it and hose their systems so that bugs get reported in newsgroups where people will get laughed at for not reading every bit of manual out there.
I think that the people posting complaints about this story were either ignorant of the open source development process, or just trolling.
Thank you.
of this release compared to Windows XP?
:-)
Sorry, could help it
"I think this line is mostly filler"
I've been running Gentoo with gaming-sources (has pre-emptive patch)... I get the same problem.... particularly when running OpenOffice, and compiling fishyfudge in background. It happened right in the middle of the "emerge" process and my disk was doing stuff, when it happened.. I too was severely bugged.
Will this test kernel have better support for acpi on my hp ze4430us? Somehow I doubt it. test9 and 10 both freeze when I try to monitor my battery charge...now how useful is a laptop if you don't know how long it will stay on?
why don't they just make the tests bigger and make the highest one 10?
This kernel is ours!!!
O Canada!
Today, thanks to conservation and silk hats, the beaver - the largest rodent in Canada - is alive and well all over the country.
It involves imaginary numbers, but it's a complex situation.
OS X and Windows X whatever users should just deselect Linux related stories from their preferences. Thank you, the management.
Whoa, they have classes for humor now? Hmm...
While this might end up sounding like a usual "go linux m$ux lol!!!!" post, I do honestly think kernel test releases are more important than Windows releases. Not so much for the importance to the end user, but because test releases depend on a community to locate bugs, and if possible help to track down the problem before the kernel gets a stable release. Windows on the other hand, there's really nothing for us to do with other than use it. Which is all fine and good, but it rates much lower on the 'stuff that matters' scale for a geek site than having a chance to help in the development of an operating system.
Everything will be taken away from you.
My only need for scsi is for my venerable old hp scanjet 4 and a cd burner, so this ancient future domain isa card works just dandy.
Unfortunately, the driver segfaults under 2.6.0-x. It worked a treat with 2.4.
Anyone else had this issue? Should I make a formal bug report? Is it a hassle to do so?
Brak: What's THAT?
Thundercleese: A light switch.. of TOTAL DEVASTATION!
Coincidence really. And the GPL tends to make selfish and/or anti-corporate types happy too.
Of course, if you mean "to the none geek crowd", then it's most definatly simply the fact that media picked up on Linux and not BSD. Therefore companies picked Linux instead of BSD in order to ride the free media hype.
Of course, I don't like Linux and think it's been waaaay over hyped, so I'm probably biased.
I mean I heard all these great things about this 'Linux' so I downloaded the new kernel thingy. I went into 'My Documents', double clicked it and my computer said that it wasn't an executable. It was the wierdest thing though cause it did execute and my screen turned all blue. It wasn't very functional, but it reminded me of windows exactly. The only it could do was restart my computer, but hey you gotta start somewhere.
I know several distros have their kernels heavily patched (e.g. RedHat). Does anyone know if there is a distro which leaves the kernel totally untouched? Or, perhaps RedHat and a few others are unique in their capacity to actually fiddle with it.
Because I think Linux is a good kernel, and Linus is a great engineer, I must always laugh when he makes a joke. Nope, two completely separate things.
You are a FUCKING IDIOT EXTRAORDINAIRE.
(PS: You need to get the sac to post non anonymously.)
-- Fighting mediocrity one bad post at a time.
On the same token, respect people who demand a little professionalism and happen to dislike something that's fighting to be taken seriously being called "Stoned Beaver."
Then why did all the other test releases get headline news?
As usual, I set a torrent here.
"Res publica non dominetur"
Just yesterday I managed to crash my test10 box by doing a "head -1 /proc/net/tcp". Didn't see this mentioned in the test11 patch but will try it ASAP.
Anyone else got such a crash?
I'm on AMD with pre-emption enabled. System pretty stable except when I played too much with USB host driver.
Yes. If anything, Linux is the most anti-corporate OS in existence. Which is why you'll never find the likes of SGI, IBM, HP, Compaq, Dell, Intel or AMD ever supporting Linux. No siree, they're all far too busy with the work they've commited to for BSD.
I've also never heard "Giving away code for free" described as selfish. Taking someone elses free code and keeping it for yourself, now that sounds selfish.
Biased? Noo, not you!
yes! linux is about progres and develepment... and we want to see that! but DO skip the final version. we don't need to see the final result. we want to see the progres, not the end of it!!
You say that like it would be a bad thing.
Visit CryptoGnome in his home.
-5 !?
:-O
Jeez, I wonder what's going on at that level!
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/26/015725 5
We should add a "Torvalds makes you happier everyday" section.
WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
ARGH! I'm just waiting for the Initio ini9100 driver to be fixed in the 2.6.0 tree, and then i'll be moving to 2.6.0.
Dammit, somebody fix that driver!
Go to bugzilla.kernel.org, create an account and post all the info you have about the bug. Don't be afraid of posting huge blocks of text (and if you think it's too large, you can add it to the bug report as an attachment). Post dmesg output, kernel configuration files, the output of programs like lspci -v or cat /proc/interrupts, and everything else you can think is useful.
Since what you getting is probably a panic or a oops, if it does not have already the symbolic function names, run it through ksymoops to add the missing data, and post the output.
Remember kids,
Longhorn == Cowpies
Linux == Beaver
We have both holes covered.
In Gentoo you can 'emerge vanilla-sources' instead of 'gentoo-sources' for a plain-jane vanilla kernel. To work with developmental vanilla kernels you just 'emerge development-sources'.
If you're into manually tweaking kernels and packages I highly recommend Gentoo, you'll learn tons about Linux just by installing it.
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