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India Joins Galileo Consortium
ghoul writes "Yahoo! is reporting that both India and China have joined the Galileo Consortium as part of an effort at building a Multipolar world.
Of note is the fact while China is giving money (200 Million Euros) India is giving 350 million Euros(almost half a billion dollars) in parts and services as Indian satellite makers are considered world class. Makes you think with all the outsourcing and stuff maybe America's century is coming to an end and this century will belong to India or China. After all one of them is 1/6th of the world and the other 1/5th."
Global cooperation.
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Everyone already KNOWS your time is at an end. Guess what else we welcome it! Congratulations America you're irrelavent.
Makes you think with all the outsourcing and stuff maybe America's century is coming to an end
Not sure about the outsourcing but you're bang on about the "stuff". It'll bring down any civilization.
The European satellite navigation project Galileo is at http://europa.eu.int/comm/dgs/energy_transport/gal ileo/index_en.htm.
That's what India and China are getting involved with. Airlines, not nations, get involved with Galileo.com.
"India Joins Galileo Consortium"
I haven't had enough sleep today. I read that as "Indiana Jones and the Galileo Consortium." I just had this image of Harrison Ford saying with that ever so famous smile on his face "The old fool was right, the Earth does orbit the sun."
"Derp de derp."
Makes you think with all the outsourcing and stuff maybe America's century is coming to an end and this century will belong to India or China.
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I don't think so. Both of these countries have political issues that interfere with their reaching their economic potential.
Both countries have severe educational, economic and political problems. India has a deeply entrenched bureaucracy and strong Marxist political elements. India has an illiteracy rate about 70%.
China has similar problems, perhaps even worse including rampant corruption. The literacy rate in China is lower that the US rate of people granted post-graduate degrees.
Here is an article in Forbes describing some of the issues with China:
http://www.forbes.com/2003/11/14/cz_rm_1114chin
At present, the only global satellite system available to civilians is GPS, but it is accurate only to 100 metres (325 feet) for civilians, or 22 metres (71 feet) for the military, and is under the control of the Pentagon.
What the hell are they talking about? With off-the-shelf equipment and a clear sky, you can easily get under 10-foot accuracy (I do on a very regular basis). With averaging and/or fancy equipment you can easily exceed that, too.
If they're talking about accuracy while the military has implemented that signal degredation stuff, it's misleading not to mention that fact. But either way, the military would still be able to do a hell of a lot better than 71-foot accuracy... that's ridiculous.
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So why is Indiana joining this consortium?
Or is it the Indians? I read today that there was some ceremony regarding the deification of Sakakejewa in Washington? Is that what this is about?
As a citizen of the USofA I face facts about the huge wastes of money we endure every day, such as:
- The dead-end Space Shuttle program
- Farm subsidies
- Ethanol subsidies (which intersect somewhat with the above)
- Mandated "special education" to the student's needs regardless of cost, while regular classrooms languish and the gifted are conspicuously neglected
- Million-dollar healthcare for very premature infants (who will be lucky to ever get past "special ed")
That doesn't include other things which could save piles of money, such as making the people who "develop" rural areas pay the full cost of all the roads, sewers, schools and whatnot that they require while abandoning cities where all those things already exist.Getting back to space, it no longer surprises me that the price of several Apollo projects has not taken humans beyond LEO in 3 decades nor given us a real space station, while a few tens of millions in SDIO gave us an SSTO technology demonstrator and one aerospace engineer was able to construct a scenario for a full manned mission to Mars for a fraction of the Shuttle budget. It disgusts me, but it is not surprising... it's all money politics, and the future is sold down the river because it has no constituency while the past chows down at the trough. Kind of like the pandering to old people with "free" drugs while the children whose future is going to be largely determined in classrooms over the next 10 years are ignored beyond mandates on top of mandates which all go unfunded.
Time is Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once... the bitch.
the garmin GPS i've used claims to get about 16t ft accuracy, and starting at the long/lat numbers while i walked around in my back yard seemed to verify that.
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The U.S.'s domination as a world power and as a leader in whatever field (in this case, aerospace) will end at one time or another. Perhaps that time is dawning. I don't know, but for certain, looks like others are starting to pull ahead.
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okay the story doesnt really have that much information, if you want to find out more, try:
w ww.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2F news%2F2003%2F10%2F31%2Fwspace31.xmls pacedaily.com/2003/031030141843.79tqo7 1o.htmll eshow/293 953.cms8 9-184676_ W_1017248,00.html. cn/200310/28/eng200 31028_126977.shtml
http://www.spacetoday.net/Summary/2003
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/artic
http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,3367,47
http://english.peopledaily.com
that should quench your thirst!
*texan voice*So what? we have the other 19/30 of the world dont we?
Bottles.
"After all one of them is 1/6th of the world and the other 1/5th."
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http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/pr
"about half the size of Russia; about three-tenths the size of Africa; about half the size of South America (or slightly larger than Brazil); slightly larger than China; about two and a half times the size of Western Europe"
"world's third-largest country by size (after Russia and Canada) and by population (after China and India); Mt. McKinley is highest point in North America and Death Valley the lowest point on the continent"
A fool throws a stone into a well and a thousand sages can not remove it.
Wow, how many pro Europe, anti-American hints could be found in that post alone?
* Throwing out the world "Multipolar". It's also capitalized for extra emphasis.
* Referencing the money values in euros, even though the world standard is dollars. (Even the Yahoo article did it right. But the article writer decided to switch them around).
* Of course, the final sentence that says "perhaps America's day is past" stuff
Of course, when I saw this biased piece of crap article, I immediately knew it was michael accepted it. Because as we all know, michael doesn't care about honest journalism, he already admits he's heavily biased
The world is sick of hearing the same old song: "We will save your behinds for your own sake".
No one is dupe to the fact that US military behavoir is only market expansion
so that multi-nationals can do business without risking their own behinds.
US military presence is the private police force of US big business.
But India and China are to big to be intimidated by US military presence.
See TIBET and CASHMIRE.
This is a test!
http://www.newamericancentury.org/
- The Shuttle program mainly continues to keep the program's suppliers and contractors in business. The same people could produce far more in the way of truly useful goods and services if they were merely diverted to working on different launch systems, but today's gravy train is guaranteed while any change implies risk to the contractors (the taxpayer would properly see it the other way, but the taxpayers do not have lobbyists working the capitol).
- The USA used to have a program of farm set-asides, where farmers were paid to idle some of their acreage and prevent overproduction. This guaranteed farmers a profit on those acres and kept prices from tanking. This program was replaced with one of pure subsidies 20 or so years ago. The results have been predictable: we have rampant overproduction while prices remain too low for many farmers to remain in business, all at taxpayer expense.
- Ethanol subsidies mostly go into the pockets of wealthy corporate interests like Archer Daniels Midland. Some of the surplus corn (from the excessive subsidies) is consumed by the ethanol program, but the taxpayer pays more for a gallon-equivalent of motor fuel produced by this method than a British driver paying 75 p per liter. Ethanol production requires roughly a gallon-equivalent of fossil inputs to produce 1.2 gallons-equivalent of output, at a subsidy of $1.90/gallon; if I have that right, the taxpayer is paying $9.50/gallon for the energy actually created by this process. The rest of the energy is merely transformed from other forms, such as coal, gas and petroleum used on the farm.
- "Special education" for children who will never be able to function on their own is likely wasted. "Education" for those who are both mentally defective and dying from their conditions is completely wasted.
- Spending a million dollars (or a half, or a quarter million) to save a very premature infant, when the parents cannot support such a child's needs and the child will sustain serious brain damage, is wasted. Once these babies are born there is nothing medical science can do to make up for the damage that results. We would save more lives by letting them die naturally and putting the money into prenatal care, schooling and programs to prevent pregnancies among people who won't take prenatal care seriously.
These programs are not worth it; they destroy value, not create it.Time is Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once... the bitch.
More European paranonia about US "power" ... whatever that means. Can't do it themselves anymore more so they turn to China, India, etc.... pathetic.
A friend of mine had a GPS Unit in Chile, and he said it didn't work the entire time he was there, but in the United States it worked fine. This was several years ago.
Is there less coverage in the Southern Hemisphere?
My nit with ag subsidies and whatnot isn't necessarily their size, it's their corrupting influence. The amount of money spent is secondary to the damage it does, which can be all out of proportion.
Time is Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once... the bitch.