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TunA and Socializing via MP3 Player
An anonymous reader writes "Wired is carrying a story about a new program in development called TunA. It will allow you to view other users playlists on their MP3 Player and also stream the music to your Player. Works through WiFi so it limits to mostly laptops for now. "
I think it's a great idea to be able to see what other people in your proximity are listening too. It really does bring a super-social aspect (as in you wouldn't be able to do it without technology) into the music experience. I definitely think that there is room for a non-proximity based playlist sharing mechanisim though. Of course, I'm extremely biased because that's exactly what my site does, but it seems to me that if you wanted to find out about new music that you would need a much larger sample set than "the people in my general vicinity".
That being said, being able to sample the music in another persons collection is totally sweet. It's nice that they don't have to deal with the RIAA since the program would presumably work withougt a central server.
Does it play ogg?
My people call it "iTunes."
.C to the izzeX
Gay
You can TunA program but you can't...oh nevermind....
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
My people call it "iTunes."
That's sooooo two weeks ago.
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ahem....
----> Rendezvous
and
----> iTunes Music Sharing
I'm currently working on my thesis for my masters in psychology and this is a very innovative technology.
In interviews that I conducted with several hundred subjects, I've found that the alarming trend that the introduction of new technology causes us to be more separate socially. We've seen it with office staff sending e-mail to individuals just a few cubicles away.
Another expirement I'm currently conducting is to provide negative feedback to individuals who choose to use their cell phone to communicate with their friends instead of dropping by at their apartment. A good example of positive behavior would be the group in "Friends", while a negative example would the person from the Verizon commercial.
If an actual file synchronizing/sharing utility were to grow out of this, it would really mess with the RIAA's attempts to punish filesharers. All that would have to happen for a physical level for added security would be MAC address and SSID spoofer, so that the real hardware addresses aren't recorded. Even if the RIAA were to attempt to set up monitoring machines in busy areas, it wouldn't be very effective if the information was spoofed.
Disclaimer: I don't think that artists should be ripped off. This is why I'm against the RIAA.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
I can hear the screams now, as I walk around with my own goatse.cx avatar on my player for all to see.
I Am My Own Worst Enemy
Mmmmmmmm, tuna...
meh
So, I guess what he is saying is that radio is dying? People have listened to radio broadcasts of music for decades, and continue to, without being able to keep the music. What is different now?
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The RIAA could pretty easily start checking people's mp3 playlists. once they decide it's "too many" mp3's, watch them get a subpoena on your ass.
It's really not that much of a stretch. At least they'd know the people they were catching actually owned a computer/mp3 files.
where you can make song recommendations to others for itunes songs. A very cool concept.
Only from the BushCo Regime:
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Whisky of Mass Destruction - how the US spied on a
tiny island distillery
JIM MCBETH
jmcbeth@scotsman.com
IN THE wavering image of a webcam, the figures
moved with the sinister intent of those whose mission
is mayhem. Thank heavens "Ursula" was watching
If the slightest possibility exists that Bruichladdich
distillery on Islay is a threat to world peace, we need
to know.
For it has been revealed that Ursula, a spy with the US
Defence Threat Reduction Agency - "Our mission to
safeguard the US and its allies from weapons of mass
destruction" - has been monitoring the island
distillery.
Apparently, it takes just a "tweak" - her words - in the
process of making whisky and Bruichladdich could be
churning out chemical weapons.
And, naturally, Mark Reynier, the managing director
of the Port Charlotte distillery, found out that he was
being spied on only when the Americans admitted it.
"Consider the most surreal scenario imaginable," he
said.
"We install webcams to show the world our whisky is
distilled traditionally. The US government apparently
lock on to the web images, which they think look
dodgy, but we, in Islay, dona(TM)t know that yet.
"We get an e-mail from aUrsulaa(TM) informing us one of
our webcams is faulty.
"We reply, thanking her and inquire who she is.
"She admits shea(TM)s a spy, monitoring sites that
potentially produce WMD. Whata(TM)s the expression?
Only in America!
"Ita(TM)s hilarious," he admitted. "Mind you, wea(TM)re a
sinister- looking bunch, so I can see how we might be
mistaken for al-Qaeda."
The US admitted watching the distilling process
because it is similar to the manufacture of chemical
weapons.
Mr Reynier said: "The original e-mail didna(TM)t say who
it was from, but my reply elicited another reply and it
had the name of the Defence Threat Reduction Agency
(DTRA) on it.
"I thought, aWhat the hell?a(TM) I wrote back and all was
revealed. We were on a ahot lista(TM)." Then with the
astonishing innocence of the American, Ursula
revealed that she worked for the department dealing
with the implementation of the Chemical Weapons
Convention.
Her e-mail read: "I work at the Defence Threat
Reduction Agency. Our mission is to safeguard the US
and its allies from weapons of mass destruction
(chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and high
explosives).
"Our area deals with the implementation of the
Chemical Weapons Convention, so we go to sites to
verify treaty compliance.
"I still find it very funny that their chemical processes
look very similar to your distilling process.
"It just goes to show how atweaksa(TM) to the process can
create something very pleasant (whisky) or deadly
(chemical weapons)."
Once "outed", Ursulaa(TM)s bosses at the DTRA were
quick to point out that they do not consider
Bruichladdich to be a threat to world peace.
A spokesman said: "I am fairly certain that monitoring
Scottish distilleries and checking webcams from time
to time is
A tiny fossil of a creature that lived some 425 million years ago has entered the record books as the oldest unequivocally male animal. The organism, which resembles a cross between a shrimp and a clam, sports a large penis which has been perfectly preserved in three dimensions.
David Siveter, professor of palaeontology at Leicester University, said there was no doubt the fossilised creature was a male, making it the oldest unambiguous member of its sex.
Professor Siveter said the fossil was found at a site in Herefordshire where soft body parts of ancient creatures have been perfectly preserved by being buried in volcanic ash before being rapidly mineralised within rocky nodules.
The animal, whose Latin name Colymbosathon ecplecticos means "swimmer with a large penis", is just 5mm (2/10ths of an inch) long and a member of a group of crustaceans known as the ostracods, crustaceans like crabs and lobsters and the most complex organisms studied within the field of micropalaeontology.
Three-dimensional images of the fossil, in the journal Science, were constructed by the scientists who carefully ground away layers of the rock while photographing polished cross-sections of the fossil as they went. One of the most intriguing aspects of the study was the discovery that the basic body plan of the 425 million-year-old ostracod looks essentially the same as the body plan of present-day ostracods, Professor Siveter said.
"The ground plan of the fossil strikingly resembles living groups of ostracods which shows the pace of evolutionary change has not been particularly fast," he said.
The copulatory organ of the fossilised male is "large and stout" which indicates that "maybe size mattered" for the ancient ostracods, he added.
"This is a male and there must have been females around. The discovery tells us something about the biology of reproduction; it provides unequivocal evidence for sex in an animal that lived in the Silurian age," he added.
In addition to the penis, the scientists were able to trace the animal's entire digestive tract from mouth to anus as well as study anatomical details such as its six pairs of gills and the limbs it used for sensing, feeding and swimming.
"The whole animal is amazing," Professor Siveter added. "We've got something we could only dream about before."
Now I don't have to strain myself trying to identify that tinny screeching sound coming from across the train.
You know the one - too loud to ignore, but just not loud enough to work out what the damn song is.
Season's Greetings from All of Us!
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I get sick of hearing the buzzing of the trunk of the car with the huge fucking subwoofers that toddles down my street at the most bizzare hours of the day and night. I'm SICK of listening to other people's music. I think I'm going to stick with my walkman.
No doubt about it, KMFDM Sucks.
P2P has socialized downloads like never before. Information need to be as fluid as conversation, technology has a (gasp, healthy!) social element that has been ignored for way too long.
Quack, quack.
You mean apple isn't the ONLY one with an mp3 player? Fuck off zealot.
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Since when has Jobs had this particular nom-de-guerre?
I was refering to the aspect that we have to resort to a small music device to interact socially with strangers. Why would that be off-topic?
At least that's my understanding.
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Schrödinger's cat is not amused—maybe.
Along a similar idea, my Tungsten C can stream mp3 stations from Shoutcast with Pocket Tunes
Not hifi wifi but it's wild to see in action the first time...
I didn't realize iTunes had changed its name! :)
As a professor in a WiFi-enabled building, I've enjoyed sharing playlists with other iTunes users in the building for weeks now. Other than further loading the already-loaded 802.11b network, it's been a lot of fun.
Again, why is this news???
If they could reduce the range/power requirements of Wifi how about MP3 players where you can share your files?
How about Wifi enabled billboards that transmit a sample of the song? Or entering a clubs or other places for that matter.
Yeah I know you're going to shout bluetooth, but it would be too slow at the time being.
I don't get it... is it fish or is it chicken?
Jack Valenti and Orrin Hatch will be first up against the wall when the revolution comes.
Dumb. It's called ITUNES.
Not all the time, but usually. I used let my bush grow free, and it smelled a lot like urine back then, but now I shave it all off, and it smells like tuna. About the only time it doesn't is about a week before my period.
What did Spock find in the toilet?
Number one I order you to take a number two!
Kind of sucks that you can be modded down (or up) by someone, but they can't comment on your thread to tell you why.
Quack, quack.
Do not, I repeat, DO NOT ask a woman with an mp3 player if she has TunA. Odds are you will be smacked, probably with the mp3 player too if its that time of the month.
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I call dibbs on Barney Sing-a-long!
This is offtopic 100%. Reason too GAY!!!
Not the same at all. Specifically for the fact that it's meant as a 'social Walkman' and, as we all know, Walkman's are portable. iTunes is not and, no, a 12" Powerbook is not the portable I'm talking about. The iPod is portable, but lacks Wi-Fi and the varying operating system features TunA requires. This is meant strictly for palm computers, of which, a version of iTunes does not (will never?) exist.
I just submitted this story a few hours ago. Rejected once again..
I just heard some sad news on talk radio - popular whore and slut Kathleen Fent, was found dead in goatse's ass this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss her - even if you didn't enjoy her free rimjobs and big teeth, there's no denying her contributions to my anus. Truly a Slashdot icon.
To give access to anyone around me to view my music. Sure you can disable it, or only allow specific people to view them, but then you can all ready to do in many ways.
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Addendum: If you must experiment with this yourself, DO NOT select the payroll/AP cleark!
"Talk minus action equals nothing" - Joey Shithead, D.O.A.
"Talk minus action equals
shock, horror, disbelief, amazement, nausea, on their fac... ...oh you meant your music...
"Talk minus action equals nothing" - Joey Shithead, D.O.A.
"Talk minus action equals
... as Tun-Eh?
This is a different concept than the music sharing feature of iTunes 4: with iTunes, you get access to my entire music library and can pick and choose what you'd like to listen to; with TunA, it's as if I unplugged my headphones to let you listen with me.
I don't see why it should be limited to a wireless connection; surely it uses a higher-level protocol such as IP or NetBEUI or IPX or something that works just as well on Ethernet?
One question I do have: will the playback be synchronized? Normally when you stream audio, it's buffered, so there's a delay. If two people are listening to the same thing, but it's out of sync by half a second, it'll drive both of them crazy...
$x='S24;r)>63/* h@<5+oZ)32"5cz';$me='phroggy'x$];
$x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
Have a laugh at this stupid drunken slut!
You can TunA program but you can't...oh nevermind....
But you CAN tuna fish. In little bitty cans.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
a version of iTunes does not (will never?) exist.
... again.
Not until hell freezes over
enjoyed sharing playlists with other iTunes users in the building for weeks now
As a J River Media Center User, I've been enjoying sharing playlists, audio, and video streaming and transcoding for years now. Welcome to the party. Tell me when iTunes grows up a bit to the point where it can handle rich, varied media.
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Rendezvous doesn't enable streaming, just service discovery. It's used so itunes instances can find each other, but that's all.
Rendezvous is basically an adaptation of DNS.. (but please, realize that doens't mean it replaces "the" DNS system we use.)
They took DNS, adapted it to work over multicast, and that's about it.. and use it as a heirarchial, distirubted method of publishing services, and other information. IF you want to know what's out there, you send a query not to a DNS server, but to a multicast address (a link-local address in this case, so it's confined to your local network by convention). All those listening mDNS servers (like every Mac in the room, or any linux machine runinng mDNS) will respond to the query via unicast (I think... haven't read it in that much detail yet.)
Works for hostnames too, if your resolver supports it. (macs again).
Of note is that it's a very open standard, and it's a cakewalk for linux or anyone else to support it as well.
My MP3 player is where I listen to all the girly effeminate music I wouldn't let me people catch me alive listening to!
You can't take Tori Amos away from me!
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This is perchance one of the more retarded ideas I've heard. See - the reason why I chose to listen to xxyyzz on a portable mp3 player, instead of perching an 80's style boombox on my shoulder like Tyrone the Coke dealer - is because I don't WANT others to listen to my music. I _like_ my privacy.
Whats next? Will every dork that surrounds me wish to know what I had for dinner, and what color my underpants are?
There is an "I-Pod" like MP3 player from a company called iRiver. It's the iHP-120. Personally, I own the iFP-390 but it lacks Ogg support....for now. If the hardware can handle it, there might be a firmware upgrade soon to support that file format. Check out the iHP-120 here
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http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iHP-120.a
Life is not for the lazy.
Works through WiFi so it limits to mostly laptops for now.
Though laptops usually come with WiFi and desktops usually without, WiFi is certainly available as PCI expansion cards.
Video codecs my dear, video. Once I was blind but now I can see. It's a multimedia application. Ignoring the external codec API handler, how many formats does MC support OOTB? 80+ Here are some of them:
AAC AIFF AU AA APE AVI BMP BPL CDA DIVX GIF JPG MPL MID MPC MP3 M1V JMX OGG PNG MOV MP4 QT RAM RA RM SMIL RV SWF SHN WMA
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I use two USB WiFi nodes: one for my desktop, one for my laptop. I'm connected to the net via my neighbours wireless accesspoint. No point in laying cable as the DSL-connection is only 2Mbps anyway.
Not just laptops here. Many handhelds have built-in 802.11b and even g in the market. One that comes to my mind would the Palm's Tungsten series. Sony's newer Clies also have 802.11b receivers. For handhelds that don't have them built-in, they can get SD/CF Wi-Fi card expansions.
http://www.palmzone.net
because you can tune a piano, but you can't TunA fish!
Did you mount a military-grade, variable-focus MASER on an unlicensed artificial intelligence?
Just wanted to plug iRate (irate.sourceforge.net). iRATE radio is a collaborative filtering client/server mp3 player/downloader. The iRATE server has a large database of music. You rate the tracks and it uses your ratings and other people's to guess what you'll like. The tracks are downloaded from websites which allow free and legal downloads of their music. Not really iTunes related, but it's still a young project (version 0.2), but I think it has a lot of promise...
iTunes is not a multimedia application, it's an audio player
Exactly my point. It's difficult to be a "digital hub" when you don't have a full-function client/server multimedia application.
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Don't mind me, just testing... something...
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