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New Low Cost DVD Burners Hit The Streets

SpinnerBait writes "DVD burners, until recently, have been a bit too pricey for the average consumer that just wants to backup large amounts of data or rescue a failing DVD movie disc. However, OEMs like AOpen have finally broken the $100 price point, as this article and performance analysis at HotHardware reports. Performance, for this sub $100 DVD burner was respectable as well, burning almost an entire DVD's worth of data in about 15 minutes. Not too shabby at all... just in time for the holidays."

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  1. Blah, by BeninOcala · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't that new Best Buy has had Sub $100 DVD burners for awhile but it was with the dreaded mail in rebate...

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    1. Re:Blah, by DaHat · · Score: 5, Informative

      going to http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1056281 016831&skuId=5720419&type=product links to what I picked up a week ago for 130 before a 30 dollar MIR. 100 bucks, not bad for a +/- R/RW :)

  2. Expensive Media by errittus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm waiing for the media price to come down. The prices i've seen on the burner is competitive, but the DVD-R media is still alittle pricey for me.

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  3. This must be... by AzBats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The end of CD-RWs?

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    1. Re:This must be... by rickthewizkid · · Score: 4, Informative

      No... it's the end of FLOPPIES! :)

      I remember as a kid going from a 170k single sided 5.25 in my Commodore to a 1.44 meg 3.5" disk in my PC and thinking "Wow! I'll never use all that storage space!" Of course, I said the same thing about my 1 GB hard drive that cost me $300, and my CD-R (not RW!) that cost nearly as much.

      Needless to say, this might just be the time for me to acquire a DVD burner - Staples has a nice DVD burner for $129 after rebate that does support DVD -R[W] and +R[W]

      -Rick

  4. Only Does '+' Formats by Flave · · Score: 5, Informative

    Note that this burner only does the '+' formats. Any DVD burner worth its salt these days should be able to do both '+' and '-' formats. I'd stick with Pioneer or Sony for now -- they do all formats, have good quality/reliability, and their prices are coming down.

    Also, new 8x recorders are coming.

    Also, new double-layer recorders are coming.

    The target is constantly moving...

    1. Re:Only Does '+' Formats by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 4, Informative

      Agreed, you can get a Pioneer DVR-A06/106 for $140 with shipping, if not cheaper (I bought one two months ago). There's no reason to get locked in on media choices if the difference is just $40.

      FYI-- Pioneer DVR-A06/106 do 4x DVD+/-R and 2.4x DVD+RW and I think 2.4x DVD-RW. There's a newer 8x DVD+/-R drive coming in January from Pioneer (DVR-A07/107) so it might pay to wait another month and check out the pricing on that.

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    2. Re:Only Does '+' Formats by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd only play the waiting game for so long.

      If you wait for what's next, and it comes around, then you'll hear people saying to wait for what's next. There will always be newer and better but if one just waits then you'll also be putting off using the thing.

      The '+' format seems to do well enough although I've preferred to keep the dash format available too because it is in the "real" DVD standard. The '+' format is kind of a bastard offshoot and only served to pad Sony & HP's profits at the expense of market confusion.

    3. Re:Only Does '+' Formats by mm0mm · · Score: 4, Informative

      A buddy of mine burnt several DVD+Rs for me. After I came back home, they became coasters as I found out none of the PCs I own read them. My laptop is less than a year old for god's sake. Despite its hype, DVD+R format is useless unless you have a compatible drive(players should be ok).

      Also, new 8x recorders are coming.
      Also, new double-layer recorders are coming.
      The target is constantly moving...

      As far as the next generation high capacity DVD format is concerned, Blue-ray is currently under development, headed by Sony, Matsushita(panasonic) and phillips. Meanwhile, (oh what a surprise) there is another high-cap DVD standard using blue-laser technology, headed by Toshiba and NEC. It is called HD-DVD and it stores 5 times more data than current DVD+/-Rs can hold. Needless to say they are incompatible to one another.

      while neither of new DVD standards is available in the market yet, it is a matter of time that they will replace the current standards. Then again, we will face incompatibility issues between Blue-Ray and HD DVD. Competition is good, but consumers have got enough of those with VHS/Beta, LaserDisc/Videodisc, Win/Mac, yada yada yada.

      Despite its hype and promises, DVD+R may live a short life (maybe 10 years) IMO.

  5. Are these low cost DVD Burners Linux Compatible by HidingMyName · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I realize these may be foolish questions, but I don't own any DVD Drives (but that might change). Do DVD burners/drives have an interface standard and what is the status of Linux support (e.g. is it like cdrecord)? If not, are any of these drives supported? Have DVD drive owners been happy with Linux run time support? And finally are there any good GUI wrappers, for CDs they have xcdroast, which does what I want.

    1. Re:Are these low cost DVD Burners Linux Compatible by bored_SuSE_user · · Score: 5, Informative

      I have a Sony DVD Writer in a Formac firewire case (not orig combination) and I have had no problems with the drive itself. You can download cdrecord-PRODVD which works pretty much the same as cdrecord. K3b pops up when I put a blank DVD in (kind of it isn't it?) so I can burn the DVD very easily from an .iso image or select my own data. I checked that this drive worked first here: cdrecord site . There is also DVDR tools which I haven't used. Both are free though. I do however have occasional problems with firewire, but under SuSE 9.0 it's not stable yet.

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  6. Not sure this is a good idea by bedouin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Especially if they're anything like cheap CD-ROM drives. All my moderately priced drives are still working and some are 5 years old or more. Yet the $30 52x drives usually never made it past one year . . .

  7. Re:Nice... by MURD3R3R · · Score: 4, Informative
    Since DVD is a digital format, the quality of the picture isn't influenced by the quality of the burner.

    Ummm, what?? I think your sorely mistaken! The quality of the picture can be greatly affected. What about movie skipping? Or not playing at all? Crashing?

  8. Re:Compatability? by LedZeplin · · Score: 5, Informative
    The key to getting them to play on set top players is the booktype.


    There is a bit on the dvd that tells the software what kind of media it is. and naturally dvd+r's will say 'dvd+r' but you can override that with 'dvd-rom' and finicky dvd players will play the discs in blissful ignorance.

  9. Keep an eye out for deals by billyradcliffe · · Score: 5, Informative

    I got myself a LiteOn LDW-411S at Best Buy for $80 after mail in rebates. After reading a few reviews it seemed like a solid drive. The nicest thing about this one is that it does 40X CD-R, which most others only do 24X. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot more of these drives under $100 before and after the holidays.

    Someone made a point about the cost of the media. This is very true; it's still rather expensive. However, that's mostly on the retail level. If you take a look around online, you sould be able to find really good media for $1 a piece or slightly more. Ritek is one of the brands that's hailed as highly compatible and overall very good, and you can get a spindle of 50 from newegg for about $55. Not bad!

    One last thing, one of the best sites for all things DVD+-RW, check out DVDRHelp.com.

  10. NEC-1300A for $103 by Rick+Richardson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Livewarehouse has the NEC-1300A 4X/-R/-RW/+R/+RW for $103 shipped, if you are a bit nervous about buying these off brand drives.

    Note that the reviewed drive came with software (the NEC-1300A doesn't), but the reviewer didn't use it.

    Why is that, you might ask? Well, because most of the video to DVD software is a complete crapshoot, depending on your particular machine and capture card, etc. Blasting the DVD is the easy part.

    I spent a good number of hours *just last night* (yawn) running down just exactly what software would work with my setup (Intel D845PEBT2 mobo, AverTV stereo). Nero 6 Ultra? Nope. Roxio VideoWave 5? Nope. MainActor? Nope. Power VCR II? Yep, we have a winner.

    After my experience, no way would I pay extra to get a recorder plus software unless I knew for a fact that software would work on my computer. If not, better to buy a bare drive and try the test drive download versions of various retail software until you find one that works for you.

  11. That's why they're cheap by gilesjuk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Any sensible person will wait for dual layer drives. Will be able to backup DVD films and fit nearly twice as much data on a disc. Not to mention you can still do single layer if you really have to.

    1. Re:That's why they're cheap by dpilot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And once the dual layer drives are out, it'll be time to wait for shorter-wavelength burning, or some other must-have feature.

      Computing and electronics is always a game of 'enough for now, at a price I can handle.'

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    2. Re:That's why they're cheap by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes. Don't jump on the bandwagon the day stuff hits the streets, wait until it hits the streets. As in the curb. People are throwing away old systems like mad now.
      I just picked up a CLEAN (non smoker) PII 400 with a CDR & a CDRW & a ZIP. 8 gigs, plus loaded with win98 and and a few games. All I had to do was pick up up from a trash pile and wipe the dust off of it. The power supply was dead. It works GREAT now. Yeah, slow but, it was all but free. $15 for a new ATX power supply and I have a PC that people would have once KILLED to have.

      Guess what? Load it up with Linux and you've got a damn nice server for next to nothing.

      I've got dozens and dozens up more dozens of old PC's this way. Just drive and and scan the rubish heaps, see something, stop and grab it. It's FREE..

      Now, when will people start throwing P4's out??

  12. K3b! by Balinares · · Score: 4, Informative

    For burning anything (audio CDs, data CDs, mixed CDs, DVDs, eMovix projects...) K3b is king. Never found a better burning frontend (including on Windows).

    Don't worry about burning stuff under Linux, that problem seems solved for the time being, which is way cool.

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  13. Re:but how well do they work? by einstein · · Score: 5, Funny

    What good is a CD Burner if it chunks 20% of your discs?

    I love word problems!

    *ahem*

    80% good.

  14. Re:floppy by blankmange · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know they are here somewhere..... there they are, covered with a layer of dust -- hell, the drive itself is penetrated so seldom it thinks it is a virgin...

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  15. The birth of DVDR ISOs by disc-chord · · Score: 4, Funny

    DVDR isos have been around for a couple years now, slowly gaining popularity (especially among console gamers). But this is going to be the real step towards mainstream DVDRs.

    DVD Player $40
    DVD Burner $80
    DVD Media $1/pop
    MPAA going down like a $2 hooker... priceless.

    It is now a lot cheaper to pirate DVD movies than it is to rent. Forget your Divx, delete your P2P programs. It's time to embrace the new age of digital piracy. I'll see ya all on alt.binaries.dvdr ;)

  16. Doesn't anyone worry about reliability? by KC7GR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The belief that 'You Gets What You Pays For' is one to live by. I have to wonder how long one of these $100 or sub-$100 burners will last.

    The entire attitude of "Just toss it when it fails and get a new one" is a poor excuse. That sort of mindset is exactly why there's such a huge problem with solid waste (much of it old electronics) in the world.

    While I like a bargain as much as the proverbial 'Next Guy,' I also expect equipment I buy to last a bare minimum of five years, more if the price is above a couple of hundred. I don't mind paying a bit more for stuff that's better built.

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  17. Re:floppy by dvdeug · · Score: 4, Funny

    So which do I use most often? My 1.44 megabyte floppy drive.

    So have you completed your first hard drive backup yet? Only 20,000 disks to go . . .

  18. Re:SATA anyone? by xyote · · Score: 4, Informative
    I don't think there's enough of a market to justify making them from the OEM's perspective. When they do, they will probably just tack on a bridge chip which is what some of the hard drive OEMs are doing. You can get a SATA/PATA bridge board now for about $20~$25 which will be less than the premium charged by the drive makers when they eventually do come out with them. If you do that, make sure the SATA/PATA bridge chip supports ATAPI as some of the early bridge chips only supported SATA for hard drives. The Silicon Image SiI 3611 supports ATAPI. Make sure your SATA controller also supports ATAPI, same issue there.


    Addonics makes such a bridge board here. Note their comment about compatibility. Also, AMS makes two styles here that use the 3611 chip according to their data sheets.

  19. Re:So can you copy a movie DVD? by spike+hay · · Score: 5, Informative

    Quality loss?! Thats half the bitrate! Does it give you the option of splitting across two disks?

    Yes, there would be quality loss. But remember, the bitrate would still be a sky-high 4000 kbps. Have you ever seen an SVCD before? I burn those all the time. I can encode nearly perfect quality video, much better than VHS, at 2000 kbps. You don't see any artifacting at all unless you get close and examine the picture carefully. At double the bitrate, burned DVDs would hardly be lacking for quality, assuming whoever encoded it knew what they are doing, and used a good encoder like TMPGENC.

    However, there will be dual layer burners coming out in March. These will store 9 gigs just like the commercially produced dvds. Although I'm sure the media would be ridiculously overpriced.

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