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GNOME Foundation Board Election Results
Anonymous BillyGoat writes "The results of the 2003 GNOME Foundation Elections have been announced. These are preliminary results, and will stand unless someone decides to challenge them. A notable exclusion from this year's list is Miguel De Icaza, whose candidacy application was rejected as it missed the deadline. In related news, barely a few weeks after the news of the death of GNOME hacker Chema Celorio in a sky diving accident, the GNOME community was shocked by the news of the sudden death of Evolution hacker Ettore Perazzoli."
...was a great guy. Too sad to see him leave. :(
Anyone's know how he actually died?
How can Miguel be excluded? Didn't he start the whole thing? That's be like excluding Linus from a Linux Foundation. Just makes the Gnome Foundation seem like a joke if they leave the founding member out.
Don't trust these results. They used Diebold machines.
Who gets to vote for the Gnome Board?
I stopped caring about Gnome at about the time they started deciding Metacity is good and should be the default. When Metacity's maker puts out an egotistical manifesto that says all the features in a window manager that don't match up exactly to his way of working are just immature fluff to him, then I'm not going to want to use the thing he makes based on that philosophy. (Apparently, for example, he thinks that outline-dragged windows are frivolous fluff, while solid-dragged windows are the only useful way to do things productively, because of course all Linux users want to waste CPU cycles on the UI. And he uses the oft-repeated dodge that since computers are faster nowadays, you don't have to save CPU cycles. Bullshit. It's *my* computer, and those are *my* CPU cycles. If I'd rather use them on background processes like mathematical calculations rendering 3-D povray animations, then that's *my* business. And that doesn't change just because we measure speed by the gigahertz instead of the megahertz today. If the computer is ten times faster, I want that speed applied to the areas *I* want it applied. If I didn't care about stuff like that, I'd be using Windows.)
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.
Aren't Gnomes and Trolls Related?
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Two election based articles...One day? I think Slashdot is now trying to sway the vote.
Vote No to proposal #4839562358096-2385178934569384560345934(a(b)(d)) titled "More Electoral Based Articles on Slashdot"
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If I remember right Ettore Perazzoli was also largly responcible for the GNOME Virtual File System code (transparently opening tarballs as folders, FTP etc) which in my opinion was the only good thing to come out of the Nautilus project.
Anyone seen Antitrust?
Novell had 5 people elected, but the charter doesn't all that many from 1 company, so 4 will sit on the board.
Sun & Red Hat had 2 each.
That means of the 11 sitting members, a super-majority (2/3) is in the hands of 3 big companies.
Hmmm... the big boys are starting to pay attention. I hope this is a good thing.
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Here is Ettore's blog, updated to 29 November.
On a side note, it's moving to browse through the weblog of someone who has died recently. I never knew Ettore, although I regularly use and love Evolution, but from his entries I see he was a very nice person while also being a talented hacker.
Hack your mind out of its sandbox.
11 seats on the board and only 12 people were to be voted for? IMHO simply adding one seat to the board would have been better than playing "Gnome Board Survivor" to see who gets voted off the island.. Poor Sri Ramkrishna.
The other weird thing is it sounds like Miguel was disqualified on a technicality? Considering he's the one name that most people probably associate with Gnome, having him miss being on the board because of something like this just seems wrong.
- Steve
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GNOME got a new logo 2 years ago...
Not about time to change?
Stop this crap. You can sell software and still be a part of the open source community.
Maybe not the GNU(all proprietary software is morally wrong) community. But GNU is _not_ the open source community, thank God.
Stop the blather.
If we are gonna reference history...lets reference it right.
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Its John Hanson, not Matthew Henson.
Checkout:
http://www.marshallhall.org/h
Secondly, this says he was the 3rd Pres of the U.S In Congress Assembled:
http://virtualology.com/uspresidents/
As this page shows the first president of the US can be considered one of three people: Washington, Hanson or Samuel Huntington for the reasons listed on the page. This furthers validates my main point of history being based on interpretation and viewpoint.
> This is proof that moderation is broken
Quick, he's on to us. Get this off the front page
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" I think the more important news here is the death of two GNOME developers. I can't believe you took this oppurtunity to bitch about your dissatisfaction with software that they wrote and freely give away."
You need to save up the sentimental bullshit and spend it where appropriate. I assume Celorio and Perazzoli were commited to their work and had invested a considerable amount of their emotional/philosphical selves into Gnome. If so, they probably would rather have you and everyone else focus on the future of their work.
Offer their families and friends comfort. Let them know you appreciate what these two did. But show some respect and keep focusing on the work these guys cared about. You are not showing respect by focusing on their deaths instead of their lives. Quite the opposite.
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As of late many Linux-communists have complained of our efforts here at SCO (the owner of the UNIX operating system) to bring fairness and equality to the management of our Intellectual Property[**]. The Linux collective launched a denial of service attack on our web site earlier this week, and in doing so forced us into reciprocating with a return denial of service attack of our own. It is unfortunate that it has come to this, but we must take measures to protect our Intellectual Property[**] - it is not a choice we have made, but a course of action that we have been forced into. Our enforcers, Vinny and Spike, will continue to administer these denial of service attacks against Linux-terrorists in a freedom fighting effort for the good of all Intellectual Property ? our Intellectual Property[**] as well as the intellectual property of others[***].
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This is one way to get GWB's admin involved with Linux.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Will someone explain to me why Gnome developers are referred to as hackers? Seriously, I'm not trolling. It just seems a little hubristic.
Q: What would you call a skydiving club for Linux geeks?
A: I don't know about you, but I'd call it skeet.
As long as KDE relies on the Qt libraries, it's in a vulnerable situation to the Trolltech buyout, or not even buyout, just buy-in, where nobody notices but new people are the bosses at Trolltech. And lo and behold foking of the GPL Qt wouldn't happen til it's too late. It's very easy to run any project into the ground, on purpose, or at least just make it annoying enough so that people silently quit it. I'm not so sure that qt is giving the best performance possible.. right now gnome seems spiffier and faster, though gnome has been going downhill for a while. So before killing KDE, Gnome must be killed off, so that people don't have another option to flock to. Patience, one at a time, methodical erasure. Or maybe I'm just paranoid. But heck, I love using free software, cuz it's free, plus, as far as an end user, it's nice to know the source code is there, and I can edit it if I want to.
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According to Nat's blog and numerous other blogs, Chema Celorio died yesterday skydiving in Mexico.
"The always enthusiastic and charming Chema Celorio died yesterday skydiving in Mexico.
For those of you not in Ximian who don't know, Chema started and ran our Mexico City office, led the Ximian Setup Tools team a few years ago, was in charge of the team that managed our contract with HP, led the Ximian Desktop for a while, was one of the creators of GNOME Love, and was recently our lead sales engineer for Europe.
Chema was one of the most loving, passionate people I have known. Being around Chema always made you want to do more and try harder. He was always questioning himself, trying to grow, taking on new challenges and never backing down.
When I went to visit our office in Mexico I stayed at Chema's house and gripped the door handle on his car till my nuckles turned white when he drove us to work. Whenever he wasn't on sales trips or skydiving he seemed to be in my office asking good hard questions and always pushing for us to do more.
Chema was easy to love, and he will be easy to miss. "
Descanse En Paz
*Condense fact from the vapor of nuance*
Way, way, way out of line.
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
Why did Ettore Perazzoli Pass Away Exactly? Every place I look, every is sad of his death, but nowhere can I find out how and why he died. Does anyone know?
He may not be an official member of the GNOME Foundation Board, but that hardly means that he's no longer a leader of the GNOME project itself. Let's keep some perspective here. I seriously doubt if anyone is saying, "he didn't meet the election deadline, we'd better shut off his CVS access." Or even, "we'd better stop listening to what he has to say."
It's even possible that not being on the Foundation could allow Miguel to spend more time actually working on GNOME.
Well, comparing to the website of the DECEASED it sure does seem to be more wordy.
Oh, come now. You're post is obviously 30% troll, 30% insightful, and the last 10% offtopic.
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I find it interesting in general to track -- in retrospect -- major events in blogs and email. For example, my own email archives have a conversation between me and another person, discussing how we're going to go skydiving the next day.
The next email is dated about three weeks later, "here's some other event we missed while I was in the hospital."
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
No. The GNU people insist on the difference between "not gratis" and "proprietary". See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
Thought of doing a statistical analysis?
It would be both post-hoc and tricky, but it would at least let you put a ball-park estimate on what probability you would assign to that occurance (7 out of the top x microbiologists dying in y years?)
The post-hoc part is what makes it tricky. Unlikely things happen all the time, but most of them aren't worth noticing. I do agree that the participation of intelligence agencies & mysterious circumstances make this more suspicious, but I have no idea how you could allow for that, so the first step would be to just use normal actuarial tables. And, perhaps, to compare the top people's lifetimes this decade against the median people, and against the prior decade. Also, figure this for several different sized groups of "top people", and use an objectively defined scale for how you rate someone as a top-person. Etc.
So it would be a lot of work to do a good job, which is why it is rarely done.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
Miguel had lots of other stupid positions as well, I for one am really glad to see him gone. Especially becase he probably would have been re-elected otherwise.
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