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CmdrTaco
on from the submitted-two-hundred-times dept.
MoonChild was the first of hundreds to submit that MSNBC, ABCNews and others are reporting that Saddam Hussein was arrested. This isn't normal Slashdot subject matter, but I figured it was worth mentioning.
Why should we care
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This is absurd, I don't know why/. even bothered reporting this story.
Re:Naysayers
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USAPatriot
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Note: Anti-War is not the same as Pro-Saddam.
Maybe not, but they did share the same goal: to keep Saddam in power.
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Re:Naysayers
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To the people saying that they are anti-war, pro-Saddam arrest... What? Did you think he was going to surrender?
ditto to: GOOD JOB GUYS!!!!
Re:bin laden..
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Anonymous Coward
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Did you know that/bin Laden was trained by the CIA? I hate those muslims as much as the next guy, and hope the US nukes Iraq, Iran, Syria and Israel to hell, but you guys trained that asshole.
Brett Glass
BUSH IS A CRIMINAL, YOU FUCKING IDIOT
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Anonymous Coward
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Saddam was NEVER a threat to the USA, but DUBYA decided to use 9/11 to falsely justify the Iraq war to overthrow the kind of dictator that the USA will SUPPORT under other circumstances. You fucking dittohead Coulter-wanking moron, this isn't about terrorism or liberation. Buy a clue.
for the Iraqis, maybe not so much for Bush. Unless all the attacks stop, flowers bloom in the desert, and sheep lie down with wolves. His buddies at Halliburton are still gouging the American taxpayer on the no-bid contracts they got. Unemployment is still really high in the US, fewer and fewer people have health insurance, and on and on. Bush will probably get a small bounce in his popularity, but not for long. The people that want him out of power won't change their minds because of this.
-- Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
No, he was going to win anyway.
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Shivetya
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A party of hate and "Self-interest" groups cannot win the Whitehouse.
So, quick looking for excuses for why he beat the other guy then and soon, until the other side realizes its flaws it won't beat him.
Me, I will stick to a Libertarian candidate, voteing for the lesser of two evils is still voting for an evil.
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Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
Re:Classic misdirection
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Anonymous Coward
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You can only 'win' by solving the problems that only serve to create more and more terrorists.
Yes, but it's gonna take time to shut down every mosque and madrassa in the world.
Re:bin laden..
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Anonymous Coward
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millions??? you mean those who died because of the sanctions, set under US pressure, right?
Bad news
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Anonymous Coward
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Saddam is probably not a nice guy, but the USA is worse.
So what to expect? A show process, "proof" for the biological weapons and 11 september, and an even stronger grip of the USA on the oil in Iraq.
Let the fools rejoice.
Re:This Is A Great Day
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gustgr
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get a hold on my banana fucking american... your country explores all the world... a whole fucking continet is dying for AIDS... fucking bush redneck is manipulating your worm's little blue and white mind... give me a break... i CAN say that I AM PROUD TO BE BRAZILIAN... when all the rest of the world would be lacking water I'll be pissing on the amazon river:D
Re:Bush: a war criminal?
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Anonymous Coward
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What a stupid comment. I thought people reading/. were supposed to be intelligent. Just because we haven't found WMD yet doesn't mean we won't, and your ignorance is astounding. Get over it - Al Gore didn't win - quit crying and suck it up... you know that's why you are really upset.
"A war criminal?", man, you are completely stupid. Go hug a tree you stupid liberal piece of socialist appeaser garbage.
Bush in '04!
Re:Frist Porst
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Anonymous Coward
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Yeah heaven forbid that the US govt lied to the world about WMD so they could invade a foreign land, get cheap gas, pump up the military, look good for the cameras and get a re-elect.
You need to pick, I'm tired of this crap. Is Bush: A) The mastermind of an international junta and leader of the illuminati that wants to control the world. B) A simpleton puppet who has to wear velcro shoes.
Seriously though, you've been all over this thread dismissing today's news. Maybe you should really do some introspection. When Saddam's capture seems to be bad news for your views on the conflict in Iraq then something is very, very wrong.
Re:This Is A Great Day
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gustgr
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what UK have to do with that conversation ? The only good and worth thing UK have produced the last 500 years were the beatles and bee gees...
Re:No connection
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Keep in mind folks that this has absolutely nothing to do with September 11.
So I guess you missed this little tidbit. "The most conclusive evidence comes in a highly detailed list of intelligence reports revealed last month in the Weekly Standard. Senior Iraqis were said to have traveled to Sudan in the mid-1990s to teach bin Laden's operatives how to make sophisticated truck bombs. Terrorists subsequently used such bombs to hit targets in Saudi Arabia and at two U.S. embassies in Africa. "
It's the war on Iraq that was started many years ago by the father
Ahh...it comes into focus now. You believe that Bush Sr. invaded Iraq before Saddam went over the border into Kuwait. And got many, many other countries to go along with him. Gotcha.
Re:who cares?
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Anonymous Coward
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i am voting for GWB in 04 just to spite liberal pigs just like you...
Re:bin laden..
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Anonymous Coward
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He never said he hated muslims because they had anything to do with terrorism. There are plenty of better reasons to hate muslims.
The international press (for example the press in my country, Austria)
Before I go any further, I just want to compliment you on your country's Glock pistols...great stuff!:-)
(Just out of curiousity, are you allowed to own them?)
is assuming the opposite to happen. And I share their view. Central Europe believes these assaults to happen because the Iraquis would prefer the US to move out of their country.
Many of the attacks are coming from foreign fighters in Iraq. While I'm sure there's resistance (20%+ of any population is always going to fall for the "big lie"), I think most educated Iraqis see the present situation as a big win for Iraq.
With Saddam Hussain being put on display in a humiliative fashion - him playing the role of a broken man whose two sons have been killed by the very forces that now have control of his life - this might anger those who lead these assaults even more.
No, the typical Muslim will view Saddam with contempt for not following through on his many promises to go down fighting and become a martyr. His "approval rating" is even worse in Iraq, where most know of his many crimes against his own people.
The situation down there is not a beautiful one; the rest of the world blames the many problems on the Bush administration.
What, not on the terrorists or extremist Muslims? Unlike the Old World powers (who seemed to prefer to simply profit from Saddam), the U.S. had the will to take on a nasty dictator who was openly supporting terrorism. That little detail seems to escape all the detractors...
We are sincerely hoping that you will vote their asses out of office next time
Sorry, but it's not going to happen IMNSHO. Especially after this!
and elect somebody with a finer understanding of the world into what's easily the world's most important political function.
Who, Howard Dean? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! His tenure would be an unmitigated disaster for U.S. prestige and interests worldwide.
The rest of the world needs a different US. You might not care, tho - but I for one hope you do.
The rest of the world might want a different U.S., but the President acts strictly for the interests of his own country. I, for one, think Bush has done an amazingly good job with foreign policy. Not one citizen has died from foreign terrorism on U.S. soil since 9/11...that is a tremendous track record for the Bush administration. I shudder to think where we'd be today if Gore had won in 2000.
-- Galileo: "The Earth revolves around the Sun!"
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Re:Enough already
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Okay american cheerboy.... so when will Roosevelt and Truman be tried for the genocide they committed against innocent German and Japanese civilians? Or Nixon for genocide in the Vietnam war?
What you talk about is not a "concept of justice", it's a concept of "the US being selt-righteous"
Re:Iraqi, U.S., or international trial appropriate
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torpor
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would use the ICC to bring frivilous charges against various officials in the US.
Ermm... "The Highway of Death" incident, for which Powell, Cheney, Wolfowitz and more are all guilty, is not a frivolous charge. These men *did* commit war crimes, per the international definition, and they *must* be brought to justice.
The only reason the US objects to the ICC is because there is no immunity for these people, whose crimes are well documented outside of the US propaganda machine...
-- ; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets.
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Re:bin laden..
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I celebrated by smoking a very fine Turkish tobacco...
No, the attacks will not stop because this war is a an ugly ego-trip for White Christian Americans, and Bush is merely using Iraq for re-election and business purposes. You think the actions of suicide bombers were conductive to getting Saddam back in power? You think the attackers even cared about Saddam? Think again.
Re:bin laden..
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It's quite terrifying, some of these people make Hamas rallies in the West Bank and Gaza look civilised, I shudder to think what this blind and frightened nation would do if they had the most powerful military in the world. Oh, wait...
Re:Not bad.
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I think we got off easy on September 11, 2001. I expect one day in my lifetime, everything south of Canal street will be leveled.
Lets hope so. For most of the rest of the World that is the dream; to See the bully bullied & the number one terrorist state humbled.
Many of us in the West wept for joy when the Twin Tower went down. For me it was a pleasure so great it transcended the mere sexual.
Re:GWI wasn't a formally declared war...
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torpor
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Typical American justification for crime. "There was no law against it, therefore it wasn't a crime."
That there is the end of your Empire, mate.
-- ; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets.
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So? We don't have 20% kurdish citizens here? Check CIA world factbook.
A SHAME that you live with us, kurdish racist moron. Also I'll check you with your university.
Re:This article is a lie!
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Anonymous Coward
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your wrong my little muslim friend, americans are not snakes, we're just inrested in ourselves and our economy, we're going to americanize iraq now and get heavily discounted oil. wars are either fought for religion or business prospects. its business for us, dont take it personally.
Lies, all lies...
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Saeed+al-Sahaf
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And what is the proof of this silly child's tale? Lies, all lies. Saddam is in contact with his loyal armies at this very moment. You will all roast in the fires at the bottom level of hell.
-- "Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
Re:Classic misdirection
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The 'War on Terror' cannot be won by capturing anyone! You can only 'win' by solving the problems that only serve to create more and more terrorists.
Almost all modern terrorism is due to US foreign policy. It is not because terrorists "hate freedom". That is, franky an extremely naive view of the world, seperating people into blank and white views of "good" and "bad".
Pardon my lumping your statement with one of the replies, but they are along the same lines....
Exactly what problems do you think are available to be solved in Iraq and the rest of the middle east? I suppose we could turn the Germans loose and let them exterminate the Jews... let them finish the job. And I suppose that we could all bow to Mecca... even the athiests among us... My point is that the problems in that part of the world are not available to be solved, or at least not solvable by any means that would satisfy a squeemish slashdotter.
Perhaps you believe that poverty is the problem? Certainly the American and European Press has been trumpeting this for a couple of years; perhaps you've bought that line? Poverty has never been "solved" anyplace. In Socialist Euroupe, and even in the United States, millions are fed and housed by the government, but this does not prevent people from being poor or impoverished. Poverty cannot be "solved"... at best it can be somewhat reduced or mitigated, and then only by a constitutional government (IE a government run according to rules rather than according to whim).
The US, or Euroupe can not solve "poverty" by simply giving out free food... such solutions breed resentment and create havoc when that aid is withdrawn. OTOH, the people in that part of the world seem resistant to the establishment of any sort of constitutional government.
Give an Iraqui a fish, and he eats for a day, teach an Iraqui to Fish and eats for the rest of his life (or until the UN bans fishing in his river). But the Itaqui insurgency resents our fish, and is uninterested in learning how to fish... Do you see the problem?
As for American foreign policy, the problem many Europeans, Chicoms, and Arabs have with it is that it exists. I suspect that The world preferd the Isolationist America of 1906 or 1936 to the Gulliver Unchained of 2003. Sleeping America came when called and could be counted upon to kill however many Germans were required... Problem is that Sleeping America did not return to sleep after 1945, and has been acting in what it views as its own self interest ever since.
If the Saudi Monarchy was toppled tomorrow, do you believe that anything better would replace it? Would it be in the US interest to see that Monarchy toppled today? Would it be in Euroupe's interest?
The problem in the middle east, with Arabs and Muslimsand all others is that there is a widely held belief that "terrorism" is a legitimate, and even laudable form of political expression. I see no solution to this.
Give a muslim some fire and he'll be warm for a day. Dip him in pork grease and light him on fire, and he'll be warm for all eternity.
Re:bin laden..
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" I hope you don't just mean America but every one who has fought and died to make this happen?
Nah, those who died are fucking loosers who can't get anything right.
Re:Strength and respect are not the same.
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Stiletto
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You sound like a the kid in school who is the biggest and meanest jerk but gets away with everything because he and his family are rich. When he asks his mommy why everybody hates him, she says "Oh, they're just jealous, dear." instead of "Stop being such a jerk."
Saddam lookalike captured
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arobas
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Capture one of the half-dozen Saddam lookalike = Morale drop for the Iraqi resistance + Re-election prospects for W.
The funny thing about all the liberals...
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Anonymous Coward
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It cracks me up on here...
The Bush Administration caught someone who was destroying the rights of the Iraqi people. Grossly ignoring basic civil rights.
Liberals hate Bush so much (generally for made up reasons) that they can't see what a huge victory this is for Civil rights.
All of you liberals that hate Bush and hate the fact we were in Iraq and hate the fact that we caught him. It's unfortunate you couldn't have lived in Iraq 2 years ago.
If you can't deal with it, stop preaching all your civil rights crap because I'm too busy dealing with civil rights on a scale you don't even comprehend. (I'm Superman)
A SHAME that you live with us, kurdish racist moron. Also I'll check you with your university.
Oh, and this is what a Turk does to another... Says he will check me with my university (whatever that means) just because he thinks I'm a Kurd. The guy has no idea that I'd have the right to live & study in Turkey even if I were a Kurd, just as he probably would like to do, in the United States.
I'm so proud that I'm not one of "that kind of" Turks.
98% of americans are just stupid gullable liars
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im so sick of america.. i hope you all just die.. i hope all ur biological and nuclear weapons just backfire and kill you all.. may you all go to hell..catching saddam does nothing to make us forgive you for invading iraq on FALSE evidence.. all the lies.. the propaganda.. the childish behaviour renaming french fries to freedom fries..etc.. ur all a bunch of pathetic worthless religious fucknuts and I hope you all burn in the hell you so claim to believe in.
BGFAY IS A PILE OF AMERICA-HATING SHIT
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toddhisattva
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George Bush's foreign policy states that the US can invade when it feels that the justfication is there or that the justfication may soon be there.
As opposed to the US only being able to protect itself when France and Germany think it should?
YOU, bgfay, are an America-hating pile of shit. You'll hide behind freedoms you wouldn't have unless better people than you actively defended those freedoms. YOU are a parasite, a bloodsucker, a disease: YOU, BGFAY, ARE AN ENEMY OF HUMAN FREEDOM.
Please go kill yourself. Do us real humans, us genuine, freedom-loving people, a big favor, and just go kill yourself. You are a waste of oxygen, and deep down inside you know it. You are tying up valuable carbon which is better used to cook big beefy burgers. Indeed, the cattle from which the burgers come are far, far more intelligent than you! A bull will actively defend his herd. You are a parasite hiding in the herd, like your terrorist heroes. If you are an American you are a traitor and should be shot.
BGFAY IS A PILE OF STEAMING AMERICAN-HATING COW SHIT. Yes I am yelling. Go kill yourself, moron, and leave we, the living, to the serious business of liberation.
"Such...are a danger to the American people, and they will be defeated." -President of the United States of America George Walker Bush. Mr. President, I volunteer for firing squad duty when you round up all the little shits like BGFAY! I'll do my best to empty a few rounds into his extremities before delivering the killing shot. If the punishment is to fit the crime, we would need to kill him more than three thousand times, but since that is impossible, let's use him for target practice.
Re:A Great Day For America
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He's a horrible, shocking, lying, brutal dictator... But enough about George Bush
-- I couldn't think of a sig.
Hussein Endorses Dean
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Tikrit, Iraq: After coming out of hiding, international leftist hero Saddam Hussein has endorsed the presidential campaign of fellow traveler Howard Dean.
"I know that Howard Dean and I agree on nearly every political subject," said the freshly-shaved new Democrat icon. "I look forward to donating billions of dollars to his campaign war chest."
"I am delighted to gain the support of such an eminent statesman," said Howard Dean. "I look forward to implementing our shared vision for turning the whole world into a hellhole, starting with the United States."
When asked for comment, a spokesman for the Bush campaign said, "Oh, Democrats, you've gotta love 'em! They're willing to sell out their country just to win an election. They'll sleep with the KKK, the CWP, the PRC, and ugly fat chicks if it'll get a vote."
Hussein has become a symbol of left-wing solidarity and a shining hope of terrorist wannabes.
"After I am elected, I will work to change the Constitution, so that we can elect a great man like Saddam Hussein to the presidency," added Dean.
"I guess this means I'll be bowing out," lamented Green candidate Ralph Nader. "The combination of Dean and Hussein can implement the Worldwide Hellhole plan more effectively if I help them destroy the United States. I heartily endorse the anti-American views of Dean and Hussein, and will be consulting my advisors about the possibility of becoming a Democrat candidate for Vice-President," he added.
Libertarian and Natural Law Party campaigns could not be contacted.
Re:Iraqi, U.S., or international trial appropriate
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Sure it is. Can't you even remember what you wrote? Geez
I wasn't referring to your "academic record", dickcheese.
I have yet to see anything but ad hominem attacks from you
That's all I've got, because that's all the likes of you deserve. Why should I bother with anything else?
Your lack of ability to form coherent arguments based on elementary logic demonstrates that you,
Ah! The standard gaywad disclaimer. This isn't an argument. I'm just calling you a fucking dick for fun. Because that's clearly what everyone does in real life.
not me, are unlikely to progress far in life.
Except I already have. But you just keep telling yourself that, if it make you feel better after jacking off to gay porn each night... one day, you'll make something of yourself. Sure you will!
Re:bin laden..
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If you want to find someone to blame for the misery of the Iraqi people you'll find his picture on CNN/Foxnews/MSNBC as the guy we captured today!
So true! It's great that someone who has maimed and killed Iraqi's for the personal gain of his family & peers has finally been arrested.
Which prison are they keeping Bush in anyway?
Dude, where is my country?
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acz
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How come Bush father and son aren't in front of a tribunal? It would be fun to have them executed in the state of texas!
You guys should read Michael Moore's book Dude where is my country or listen to it for free in audio book format (torrent link).
Who gives a flying fuck?
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Saddam is just another western flunkie that stopped playing along (same as Bin Laden)... at least now there's no denying of the fact that Iraq is US controlled.
Slashdot Mirror
This is absurd, I don't know why /. even bothered reporting this story.
Maybe not, but they did share the same goal: to keep Saddam in power.
Slashdot Moderation: From positive to terrible in 2 "insightful" posts.
To the people saying that they are anti-war, pro-Saddam arrest ... What? Did you think he was going to surrender?
ditto to: GOOD JOB GUYS!!!!
Did you know that /bin Laden was trained by the CIA? I hate those muslims as much as the next guy, and hope the US nukes Iraq, Iran, Syria and Israel to hell, but you guys trained that asshole.
Brett Glass
Saddam was NEVER a threat to the USA, but DUBYA decided to use 9/11 to falsely justify the Iraq war to overthrow the kind of dictator that the USA will SUPPORT under other circumstances. You fucking dittohead Coulter-wanking moron, this isn't about terrorism or liberation. Buy a clue.
for the Iraqis, maybe not so much for Bush. Unless all the attacks stop, flowers bloom in the desert, and sheep lie down with wolves. His buddies at Halliburton are still gouging the American taxpayer on the no-bid contracts they got. Unemployment is still really high in the US, fewer and fewer people have health insurance, and on and on. Bush will probably get a small bounce in his popularity, but not for long. The people that want him out of power won't change their minds because of this.
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
A party of hate and "Self-interest" groups cannot win the Whitehouse.
So, quick looking for excuses for why he beat the other guy then and soon, until the other side realizes its flaws it won't beat him.
Me, I will stick to a Libertarian candidate, voteing for the lesser of two evils is still voting for an evil.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
Yes, but it's gonna take time to shut down every mosque and madrassa in the world.
millions??? you mean those who died because of the sanctions, set under US pressure, right?
is worse.
So what to expect? A show process, "proof" for
the biological weapons and 11 september, and an
even stronger grip of the USA on the oil in Iraq.
Let the fools rejoice.
get a hold on my banana fucking american ... your country explores all the world ... a whole fucking continet is dying for AIDS ... fucking bush redneck is manipulating your worm's little blue and white mind ... give me a break ... i CAN say that I AM PROUD TO BE BRAZILIAN ... when all the rest of the world would be lacking water I'll be pissing on the amazon river :D
What a stupid comment. I thought people reading /. were supposed to be intelligent. Just because we haven't found WMD yet doesn't mean we won't, and your ignorance is astounding. Get over it - Al Gore didn't win - quit crying and suck it up... you know that's why you are really upset.
"A war criminal?", man, you are completely stupid. Go hug a tree you stupid liberal piece of socialist appeaser garbage.
Bush in '04!
YOU FAIL IT COCKSUCKER
Yeah heaven forbid that the US govt lied to the world about WMD so they could invade a foreign land, get cheap gas, pump up the military, look good for the cameras and get a re-elect.
You need to pick, I'm tired of this crap. Is Bush:
A) The mastermind of an international junta and leader of the illuminati that wants to control the world.
B) A simpleton puppet who has to wear velcro shoes.
Seriously though, you've been all over this thread dismissing today's news. Maybe you should really do some introspection. When Saddam's capture seems to be bad news for your views on the conflict in Iraq then something is very, very wrong.
what UK have to do with that conversation ? The only good and worth thing UK have produced the last 500 years were the beatles and bee gees...
Perhaps the French will give Saddam honorary citizen ship, like they did with cop-killer Mumia.
A Good Intro to NetBS
ohh .. and I forgot ... at least the inheir of my kingdom isn't a fag [prince harry] who like a banana in his ass ...
Staged... that's "Funny", not "Insightful". Who's modding today? Howard Dean?
3cx.org - A truly bad website.
Keep in mind folks that this has absolutely nothing to do with September 11.
So I guess you missed this little tidbit.
"The most conclusive evidence comes in a highly detailed list of intelligence reports revealed last month in the Weekly Standard. Senior Iraqis were said to have traveled to Sudan in the mid-1990s to teach bin Laden's operatives how to make sophisticated truck bombs. Terrorists subsequently used such bombs to hit targets in Saudi Arabia and at two U.S. embassies in Africa. "
It's the war on Iraq that was started many years ago by the father
Ahh...it comes into focus now. You believe that Bush Sr. invaded Iraq before Saddam went over the border into Kuwait. And got many, many other countries to go along with him. Gotcha.
i am voting for GWB in 04 just to spite liberal pigs just like you...
He never said he hated muslims because they had anything to do with terrorism. There are plenty of better reasons to hate muslims.
Before I go any further, I just want to compliment you on your country's Glock pistols...great stuff! :-)
(Just out of curiousity, are you allowed to own them?)
is assuming the opposite to happen. And I share their view. Central Europe believes these assaults to happen because the Iraquis would prefer the US to move out of their country.
Many of the attacks are coming from foreign fighters in Iraq. While I'm sure there's resistance (20%+ of any population is always going to fall for the "big lie"), I think most educated Iraqis see the present situation as a big win for Iraq.
With Saddam Hussain being put on display in a humiliative fashion - him playing the role of a broken man whose two sons have been killed by the very forces that now have control of his life - this might anger those who lead these assaults even more.
No, the typical Muslim will view Saddam with contempt for not following through on his many promises to go down fighting and become a martyr. His "approval rating" is even worse in Iraq, where most know of his many crimes against his own people.
The situation down there is not a beautiful one; the rest of the world blames the many problems on the Bush administration.
What, not on the terrorists or extremist Muslims? Unlike the Old World powers (who seemed to prefer to simply profit from Saddam), the U.S. had the will to take on a nasty dictator who was openly supporting terrorism. That little detail seems to escape all the detractors...
We are sincerely hoping that you will vote their asses out of office next time
Sorry, but it's not going to happen IMNSHO. Especially after this!
and elect somebody with a finer understanding of the world into what's easily the world's most important political function.
Who, Howard Dean? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! His tenure would be an unmitigated disaster for U.S. prestige and interests worldwide.
The rest of the world needs a different US. You might not care, tho - but I for one hope you do.
The rest of the world might want a different U.S., but the President acts strictly for the interests of his own country. I, for one, think Bush has done an amazingly good job with foreign policy. Not one citizen has died from foreign terrorism on U.S. soil since 9/11...that is a tremendous track record for the Bush administration. I shudder to think where we'd be today if Gore had won in 2000.
Galileo: "The Earth revolves around the Sun!"
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Okay american cheerboy.... so when will Roosevelt and Truman be tried for the genocide they committed against innocent German and Japanese civilians? Or Nixon for genocide in the Vietnam war?
What you talk about is not a "concept of justice", it's a concept of "the US being selt-righteous"
would use the ICC to bring frivilous charges against various officials in the US.
Ermm... "The Highway of Death" incident, for which Powell, Cheney, Wolfowitz and more are all guilty, is not a frivolous charge. These men *did* commit war crimes, per the international definition, and they *must* be brought to justice.
The only reason the US objects to the ICC is because there is no immunity for these people, whose crimes are well documented outside of the US propaganda machine...
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
I celebrated by smoking a very fine Turkish tobacco...
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No, the attacks will not stop because this war is a an ugly ego-trip for White Christian Americans, and Bush is merely using Iraq for re-election and business purposes. You think the actions of suicide bombers were conductive to getting Saddam back in power? You think the attackers even cared about Saddam? Think again.
It's quite terrifying, some of these people make Hamas rallies in the West Bank and Gaza look civilised, I shudder to think what this blind and frightened nation would do if they had the most powerful military in the world. Oh, wait...
Lets hope so. For most of the rest of the World that is the dream; to See the bully bullied & the number one terrorist state humbled.
Many of us in the West wept for joy when the Twin Tower went down. For me it was a pleasure so great it transcended the mere sexual.
Typical American justification for crime. "There was no law against it, therefore it wasn't a crime."
That there is the end of your Empire, mate.
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
Kurds are not Turks. Period.
So? We don't have 20% kurdish citizens here? Check CIA world factbook.
A SHAME that you live with us, kurdish racist moron. Also I'll check you with your university.
your wrong my little muslim friend, americans are not snakes, we're just inrested in ourselves and our economy, we're going to americanize iraq now and get heavily discounted oil. wars are either fought for religion or business prospects. its business for us, dont take it personally.
And what is the proof of this silly child's tale? Lies, all lies. Saddam is in contact with his loyal armies at this very moment. You will all roast in the fires at the bottom level of hell.
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
Exactly what problems do you think are available to be solved in Iraq and the rest of the middle east? I suppose we could turn the Germans loose and let them exterminate the Jews... let them finish the job. And I suppose that we could all bow to Mecca... even the athiests among us... My point is that the problems in that part of the world are not available to be solved, or at least not solvable by any means that would satisfy a squeemish slashdotter.
Perhaps you believe that poverty is the problem? Certainly the American and European Press has been trumpeting this for a couple of years; perhaps you've bought that line? Poverty has never been "solved" anyplace. In Socialist Euroupe, and even in the United States, millions are fed and housed by the government, but this does not prevent people from being poor or impoverished. Poverty cannot be "solved"... at best it can be somewhat reduced or mitigated, and then only by a constitutional government (IE a government run according to rules rather than according to whim).
The US, or Euroupe can not solve "poverty" by simply giving out free food... such solutions breed resentment and create havoc when that aid is withdrawn. OTOH, the people in that part of the world seem resistant to the establishment of any sort of constitutional government.
Give an Iraqui a fish, and he eats for a day, teach an Iraqui to Fish and eats for the rest of his life (or until the UN bans fishing in his river). But the Itaqui insurgency resents our fish, and is uninterested in learning how to fish... Do you see the problem?
As for American foreign policy, the problem many Europeans, Chicoms, and Arabs have with it is that it exists. I suspect that The world preferd the Isolationist America of 1906 or 1936 to the Gulliver Unchained of 2003. Sleeping America came when called and could be counted upon to kill however many Germans were required... Problem is that Sleeping America did not return to sleep after 1945, and has been acting in what it views as its own self interest ever since.
If the Saudi Monarchy was toppled tomorrow, do you believe that anything better would replace it? Would it be in the US interest to see that Monarchy toppled today? Would it be in Euroupe's interest?
The problem in the middle east, with Arabs and Muslimsand all others is that there is a widely held belief that "terrorism" is a legitimate, and even laudable form of political expression. I see no solution to this.
" I hope you don't just mean America but every one who has fought and died to make this happen?
Nah, those who died are fucking loosers who can't get anything right.
You sound like a the kid in school who is the biggest and meanest jerk but gets away with everything because he and his family are rich. When he asks his mommy why everybody hates him, she says "Oh, they're just jealous, dear." instead of "Stop being such a jerk."
Capture one of the half-dozen Saddam lookalike =
Morale drop for the Iraqi resistance + Re-election prospects for W.
I'm a TURK, goddamit!
It cracks me up on here...
The Bush Administration caught someone who was destroying the rights of the Iraqi people. Grossly ignoring basic civil rights.
Liberals hate Bush so much (generally for made up reasons) that they can't see what a huge victory this is for Civil rights.
All of you liberals that hate Bush and hate the fact we were in Iraq and hate the fact that we caught him. It's unfortunate you couldn't have lived in Iraq 2 years ago.
If you can't deal with it, stop preaching all your civil rights crap because I'm too busy dealing with civil rights on a scale you don't even comprehend. (I'm Superman)
A SHAME that you live with us, kurdish racist moron. Also I'll check you with your university.
Oh, and this is what a Turk does to another... Says he will check me with my university (whatever that means) just because he thinks I'm a Kurd. The guy has no idea that I'd have the right to live & study in Turkey even if I were a Kurd, just as he probably would like to do, in the United States.
I'm so proud that I'm not one of "that kind of" Turks.
im so sick of america.. i hope you all just die.. i hope all ur biological and nuclear weapons just backfire and kill you all.. may you all go to hell..catching saddam does nothing to make us forgive you for invading iraq on FALSE evidence.. all the lies.. the propaganda.. the childish behaviour renaming french fries to freedom fries..etc.. ur all a bunch of pathetic worthless religious fucknuts and I hope you all burn in the hell you so claim to believe in.
As opposed to the US only being able to protect itself when France and Germany think it should?
YOU, bgfay, are an America-hating pile of shit. You'll hide behind freedoms you wouldn't have unless better people than you actively defended those freedoms. YOU are a parasite, a bloodsucker, a disease: YOU, BGFAY, ARE AN ENEMY OF HUMAN FREEDOM.
Please go kill yourself. Do us real humans, us genuine, freedom-loving people, a big favor, and just go kill yourself. You are a waste of oxygen, and deep down inside you know it. You are tying up valuable carbon which is better used to cook big beefy burgers. Indeed, the cattle from which the burgers come are far, far more intelligent than you! A bull will actively defend his herd. You are a parasite hiding in the herd, like your terrorist heroes. If you are an American you are a traitor and should be shot.
BGFAY IS A PILE OF STEAMING AMERICAN-HATING COW SHIT. Yes I am yelling. Go kill yourself, moron, and leave we, the living, to the serious business of liberation.
"Such...are a danger to the American people, and they will be defeated." -President of the United States of America George Walker Bush. Mr. President, I volunteer for firing squad duty when you round up all the little shits like BGFAY! I'll do my best to empty a few rounds into his extremities before delivering the killing shot. If the punishment is to fit the crime, we would need to kill him more than three thousand times, but since that is impossible, let's use him for target practice.
You mean like when it's OK to attack Iraq when Clinton says it, but not when Bush says it? Face it, everywhere you go, people are self-serving.
He's a horrible, shocking, lying, brutal dictator... But enough about George Bush
I couldn't think of a sig.
"I know that Howard Dean and I agree on nearly every political subject," said the freshly-shaved new Democrat icon. "I look forward to donating billions of dollars to his campaign war chest."
"I am delighted to gain the support of such an eminent statesman," said Howard Dean. "I look forward to implementing our shared vision for turning the whole world into a hellhole, starting with the United States."
When asked for comment, a spokesman for the Bush campaign said, "Oh, Democrats, you've gotta love 'em! They're willing to sell out their country just to win an election. They'll sleep with the KKK, the CWP, the PRC, and ugly fat chicks if it'll get a vote."
Hussein has become a symbol of left-wing solidarity and a shining hope of terrorist wannabes.
"After I am elected, I will work to change the Constitution, so that we can elect a great man like Saddam Hussein to the presidency," added Dean.
"I guess this means I'll be bowing out," lamented Green candidate Ralph Nader. "The combination of Dean and Hussein can implement the Worldwide Hellhole plan more effectively if I help them destroy the United States. I heartily endorse the anti-American views of Dean and Hussein, and will be consulting my advisors about the possibility of becoming a Democrat candidate for Vice-President," he added.
Libertarian and Natural Law Party campaigns could not be contacted.
Sure it is. Can't you even remember what you wrote? Geez
... one day, you'll make something of yourself. Sure you will!
I wasn't referring to your "academic record", dickcheese.
I have yet to see anything but ad hominem attacks from you
That's all I've got, because that's all the likes of you deserve. Why should I bother with anything else?
Your lack of ability to form coherent arguments based on elementary logic demonstrates that you,
Ah! The standard gaywad disclaimer. This isn't an argument. I'm just calling you a fucking dick for fun. Because that's clearly what everyone does in real life.
not me, are unlikely to progress far in life.
Except I already have. But you just keep telling yourself that, if it make you feel better after jacking off to gay porn each night
So true! It's great that someone who has maimed and killed Iraqi's for the personal gain of his family & peers has finally been arrested.
Which prison are they keeping Bush in anyway?
How come Bush father and son aren't in front of a tribunal? It would be fun to have them executed in the state of texas!
You guys should read Michael Moore's book Dude where is my country or listen to it for free in audio book format (torrent link).
Saddam is just another western flunkie that stopped playing along (same as Bin Laden) ... at least now there's no denying of the fact that Iraq is US controlled.
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