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Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp 5!
An anonymous coward writes: Having been a loyal iTunes user for quite some time, after seeing the report on Ars Technica about the newly released Winamp 5 Final, I simply had to try it out. It's pretty amazing, rivaling iTunes in many ways on Windows (mainly, speed). Ripping, library, etc: They're all there. Plus it comes with a slew of of new scriptable features. Simply put, it's dead sexy. Get your copy now! Note, last link requires some other OS.
You know.. the one that hardly anyone uses.. I think its called Windows or something.
:)
Obscure thing.
Also note, the link does appear to look at the referrer. Able to get to the file from WinAmp.com, but not from the direct link.
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Will it be winamp 10?
See?
Also, if you're going to compare it to iTunes, mention the fact that you can't do a lot of things (like ripping to MP3) unless you pay for the Pro version.
iTunes is free, right?
So maybe somebody should mention this.
Is this truly the only Earth I can live on?
Looks like you have to pay $15 to get MP3 encoding and CD burning functionality. Considering a lot of people want to rip and burn to save money (read: nicking songs!), this seems a pretty stupid idea if they want to go better than iTunes, and any other software which will do it for free.
I'm still using 2.whatever because it's faster than the newer versions, which have no additional features worth the speed decrease.
Note, last link requires some other OS.
Imagine that a product called Winamp requires windows.
Moments after this story was posted, the download links were unavailable. Glory be the power that is slashdot!
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I've been watching videos in winamp 2 for a while. It even runs better than Windows Media Player, though sometimes it's upside-down. I don't think the reviewer ever tried to run video in winamp.
And another thing: 4MB?
Winamp 2 is 1MB. No, thanks. I'll stick with my winamp 2.
When I go to http://winamp.com it looks different than when I go to http://www.winamp.com Why?
Hey everyone! I just wanted to let you know that while iTunes allows you to rip to .mp3 or AAC as well as other things (like run on a Macintosh) for FREE, you have to pay for the pro-version of WinAmp to do the same things (well...accept for the AAC and MacOS support).
Just wanted to mention this...
heh...oh well...I have some karma to burn.
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2+3=5
Is Nullsoft adopting a Fibonacci versioning system?
'cause that would be awesome.
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you can't do a lot of things [in Winamp] (like ripping to MP3) unless you pay for the Pro version.
MP3 is patented, and the patent holder is not willing to license encoders on royalty-free terms.
iTunes is free, right?
The iTunes client is proprietary, and the no-charge version's MP3 encoder licensing fees are presumably subsidized by QuickTime Pro revenue and Macintosh hardware revenue.
Didn't iTunes for Windows only drop a month or two ago? How does one count a month as being a "long time" user?
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There is a lite version available here, which doesn't include freeform skinning, or video, and is basically "old school" winamp2. And it's only 650kB.
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I've used Winamp 5 pre-releases for a month, here's my observations:
* FAST: As snappy as 2.x even on old machines using the "classic" skin.
* STABLE: In a month of use, no crashes or uncouth behavior.
* 2.x FEATURES: "Jump" and "Physically Delete" have been re-introduced.
* SKINS: Works with version 2 and 3 skins. New default skin is user-friendly and purdy.
* RIPPING: Making good MP3s from your CDs is fast and easy.
* Global hotkeys: Control all program features through global hotkeys, e.g. press CTRL-ALT-5 to activate pause/play, even when Winamp is not focused as the active app.
* Media library: Quickly find songs based on title, album, and artist.
If you liked Winamp2 but not 3, you should give this a try.
for those of you that prefere winamp3, :)
it will continue as wasabi-player. http://www.wasabidev.org/,
with they call a mostly opensource licence. but they do mention crossplatform
Ok. I'm a winamp2 nut. I refused winamp3. So naturally my first reaction when I heard about 5 was, screw that! winamp2 forevar!
But I couldn't resist trying it. So I downloaded the free winamp5. I must say that this is an appropriate analogy.
windows2000:windowsXP::winamp2:winamp5
winamp 5 can be turned into winamp2 with a few mouse clicks
windows xp can be turned into windows2000 in a few mouse clicks
winamp 5 can run every plugin, skin and visualization from winamp 2
windows xp can do everything windows 2000 can do
winamp 5 has more options and more features than winamp 2
windows xp has some stuff in it that win2k don't got
The audio quality is identical. On my fast pc the speed is identical. I don't need cd burning or ripping because I have CDex and Nero, so I don't need to pay for the pro version, which only costs 15$.
My faith in nullsoft has been restored. I'll try winamp 5 a week and see if I find a reason not to use it.
Oh, the minibrowser is gone (yay!) but it is present in the media library (boo!), but you can click one button and it will go away (yay!). So it's all good.
The GeekNights podcast is going strong. Listen!
Another, very interesting feature is NSV streaming video.
Like the 'internet radio' stations streamed by shoutcast, there are a few internet TV stations. This my friends, is truely significant. Winamp becomes a digital-tv tuner (....i dont mean HDTV). People will be able to stream out any video they'd like -- the other day I watched a few episodes of aqua teen hunger force, some pr0n, and the movie Phone Booth.
Imagine a million streams of public access tv, mixed up with random bits of quality niche movies/shows....
THAT is what makes winamp5 cool. Now, i might just be ignorant, but is there another app that puts a selection of streaming video stations together for you to surf?
Those idiots should have torrented this. Here's a working link though:p 50_full.e xe
http://64.12.168.244/winamp/client/winam
I don't know how much you know about DNS, but here goes:
When you request a URL, you make a request to your ISPs DNS server. It, in turn, makes a request back to (eventually) the rood DNS servers. Those point you to the DNS server of the domain you are trying to reach.
ftp.winamp.com
www.winamp.com
mail.winamp.com
download.winamp.com
Are all resolved to IP addresses by the DNS server sitting in the winamp campus.
So, when someone made the entries in their DNS, www.winamp.com and winamp.com were pointed to different IP addresses. One should have been an a-record (I think) and the other should have been an alias (or cname) to the first. But that didn't happen.
At some point, someone changed the IP address of the http server and only one DNS entry was updated.
winamp.com resolves to 205.188.245.120
www.winamp.com resolves to 205.188.244.138
So it looks as if Winamp has two servers sitting on two seperate class C address spaces in their NOC.
In short, bad DNS management and oversight lead to two DNS entries for two webservers on seperate address spaces.
I'd rather you do it wrong, than for me to have to do it at all.
Actually, if you were to actually READ THE OPTIONS ON THE DOWNLOAD PAGE (link), instead of just blindly clicking "submit", you would see the following options:
:P
Download the free player
Select your operating system:
[ ] Mac OS X v10.2.5-10.2.8
[ ] Mac OS 8.6/9
[ ] Win 98/Me/2000/XP
[*] QuickTime and iTunes for Windows 2000/XP
Perhaps you should concider reading the entire page before bitching about it on Slashdot. It makes you look like a jackass.
Oh crap, n00b alert. How do you delete posts here?
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Let's try that again shall we.
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iTunes is slow as hell on my reasonably fast system but I deal with it because I love its song rating system and smart playlists. Syncing with my ipod comes in a close second behind any of these. A quick glance at winamp 5 seems like it has none of these
Look again my friend.
Winamp 5.0 has song ratings & smart playlists in the media library, and much much more, and there's also an iPod plugin available here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=10
To be truthful, in general, too many people have blindly posted here without at least even trying out Winamp 5 first. How can you knock something without actually trying it? Forget about any grievances you had with Winamp3, this is Winamp. The same old Winamp you all once knew and loved. This is Winamp 2.x updated with a few extra features (if you decide to install them) - yes, remember, Winamp is MODULAR - you decide which features you want - and this includes the option to not install support for freeform skins, video, media library, and any other optional feature/plugin. Heck, you can even install a Lite version to upgrade your 2.x version to the latest 2.x equivalent version - but with loads of bug fixes.
And, as for people moaning about paying for it - well you don't ever have to pay for it if you don't wish. There's no nag screen or anything. So, you don't need the ripper or burner, fine, download the Standard Free version instead, with all the features of Pro, except for ripping & burning.
But if you want Pro, then Nullsoft actually has to pay for the licence, on a per user basis, to Thomson/FhG for MP3 Encoding, to Dolby for AAC encoding, and to Veritas/Sonic Solutions for the ripping/burning engine.
So, you've got an app which does it for free, have you? Well, just do a bit more research first, and I think you'll be quite surprised at the results of your find. I won't go into too greater detail, because this post is long enough as it is - but hey, all I can say is this:
Please just give it a try first, just for a few days even, and then if you're not happy, sure, go ahead and uninstall it and then come back here with a valid criticism.
Thank you for your time.
Oh, and if anyone's having problems downloading it,
then try here (download.nullsoft.com direct ip link):
http://64.12.168.244/winamp/client/winamp50_full.
I use Winamp for playing files with weird extensions, because there are so many nifty plugins that let me listen to PSFs, NSFs, etc.
I used to use Winamp for that, but now I use Foobar 2000. While not as polished as Winamp, it's an amazing piece of software.
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The company that AOL wants you to forget they own... Nullsoft releases cool software called Waste, AOL pulls plug almost instantly. Nullsoft releases cool software called AIMazing, AOL pulls plug almost instantly.
I still use WinAmp, but this company no longer whips the llama's ass.
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... us early adopters who actually paid for WinAmp back in the day?
:)
If I'm not mistaken, you could purchase WinAmp back then with free upgrades for life. 2 monthes later, they honored that contract by making it free. Now that the Pro version isn't, I want my free upgrade
I've found pages that were obviously personal start pages in my logs for autopr0n, and google indexed mine and put it up as the third search result on my real name (amazingly, they actualy removed it from their index when I emailed them).
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
Good lord, man. If you don't stop being so defensive, you're going to combust spontaneously.
I call what you have "Apple Defensiveness Syndrome" (ADS) and it isn't healthy. I've lost many friends to the (dis)order. Suddenly, all Apple jokes and/or criticisms (or even mention of rivals) become lightning rods that threaten to ignite flamewars of gigantic proportions.
Try repeating this to yourself every time you get upset: "It's only a computer, it does not reflect my self worth."
http://bylands.dur.ac.uk/~mh/file.c.patch
Apply it in the root of the Wine source tree, like so:
patch -p0 </tmp/file.c.path
then do a make and make install in dlls/kernel. Run the installer - it should install fine apart from complaining about "Sonic Pro" or something.
Be warned. The "modern" skin does some funky stuff with window classes we don't yet support. Use the classic skin.
I'm going to take a look at the subclassing stuff now. As an aside, the NSIS code is awful. Great product, nasty as hell code :/