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Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp 5!
An anonymous coward writes: Having been a loyal iTunes user for quite some time, after seeing the report on Ars Technica about the newly released Winamp 5 Final, I simply had to try it out. It's pretty amazing, rivaling iTunes in many ways on Windows (mainly, speed). Ripping, library, etc: They're all there. Plus it comes with a slew of of new scriptable features. Simply put, it's dead sexy. Get your copy now! Note, last link requires some other OS.
You know.. the one that hardly anyone uses.. I think its called Windows or something.
:)
Obscure thing.
Also note, the link does appear to look at the referrer. Able to get to the file from WinAmp.com, but not from the direct link.
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Will it be winamp 10?
See?
Also, if you're going to compare it to iTunes, mention the fact that you can't do a lot of things (like ripping to MP3) unless you pay for the Pro version.
iTunes is free, right?
So maybe somebody should mention this.
Is this truly the only Earth I can live on?
That really licked the llama's ass.
Looks like you have to pay $15 to get MP3 encoding and CD burning functionality. Considering a lot of people want to rip and burn to save money (read: nicking songs!), this seems a pretty stupid idea if they want to go better than iTunes, and any other software which will do it for free.
I'm still using 2.whatever because it's faster than the newer versions, which have no additional features worth the speed decrease.
Note, last link requires some other OS.
Imagine that a product called Winamp requires windows.
Moments after this story was posted, the download links were unavailable. Glory be the power that is slashdot!
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http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp5 0_full.exe brings up 404.
Looks like someone at Nullsoft saw the HUGE load and pulled the file.
anyone got a Mirror?
Visit CryptoGnome in his home.
I've been watching videos in winamp 2 for a while. It even runs better than Windows Media Player, though sometimes it's upside-down. I don't think the reviewer ever tried to run video in winamp.
And another thing: 4MB?
Winamp 2 is 1MB. No, thanks. I'll stick with my winamp 2.
When I go to http://winamp.com it looks different than when I go to http://www.winamp.com Why?
I'm still using Winamp 2 because they later started to degrade the project with bloating. Is this one really good, and is there any whiff of "DRM" to tell me what I cannot do with my own content on my own machine?
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
Hey everyone! I just wanted to let you know that while iTunes allows you to rip to .mp3 or AAC as well as other things (like run on a Macintosh) for FREE, you have to pay for the pro-version of WinAmp to do the same things (well...accept for the AAC and MacOS support).
Just wanted to mention this...
heh...oh well...I have some karma to burn.
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
I have used WinAmp in the past, and like most apps with "skins", it flashes, blinks, doesn't quite work right, and is generally retarded on Windows machines. Does this version finally work OK? Does anyone else have these problems?
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2+3=5
Is Nullsoft adopting a Fibonacci versioning system?
'cause that would be awesome.
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hijack your bookmarks and change your video preferences to open everything in Winamp regardless if you specifically denied it that right during setup?
After Winamp3 did that to me, that was it.
This guy is way out there
For me, iTunes sets the bar here, as far as anything I've tried on Windows. It's so easy in iTunes to drag songs to other playlists. Why does iTunes get this SO right, and nobody else comes close?
What I like to do is listen to my entire collection on shuffle, most of the time. Occaisionally I'll hear a song that I'd like to add to one of my playlists (coding music playlist, one for my next roadtrip, etc). In iTunes this is easy. In Winamp it's possible but kind of a mess, and you can't drag from the playlist window to the list of playlists in the Media Library window. And I diskike the "let's have a different window for everything" interface concept of Winamp in general.
Those are nitpicky concerns, but for a music player they're pretty vital. It's got to be easy to use, since I have it open, off to the side, while coding... if I have to devote a lot of thought to futzing around with somebody's kludgy interface, it's a big distraction.
Not that iTunes is perfect. Chugs like a mofo when you've got 50-60GB of music imported...
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Hopefully my local RoadRunner's NOC can handle this. I know they just laid a new buttload of fiber, we'll see if we can get them to light it up. *crosses fingers*
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you can't do a lot of things [in Winamp] (like ripping to MP3) unless you pay for the Pro version.
MP3 is patented, and the patent holder is not willing to license encoders on royalty-free terms.
iTunes is free, right?
The iTunes client is proprietary, and the no-charge version's MP3 encoder licensing fees are presumably subsidized by QuickTime Pro revenue and Macintosh hardware revenue.
Didn't iTunes for Windows only drop a month or two ago? How does one count a month as being a "long time" user?
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It's actually was named Winamp3, not Winamp 3. Supposedly Nullsoft really wanted to have mp3 in the product name...
iTunes runs on Windows now, too. Time to crawl out from underneath that rock you've been living under...
There is a lite version available here, which doesn't include freeform skinning, or video, and is basically "old school" winamp2. And it's only 650kB.
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I used to use Winamp all the time, so when 5.0 was released, I jumped and downloaded it.
Only to find out it doesn't seem to play WMA lossless.
I have 60GB of free space and a pretty darn good 7.1 speaker system on this computer. I don't need to compress the music I listen to into a lossy format, so I went with WMA lossless when I re-encoded my collection.
So, unless I've found a bug, Winamp 5 is out for now. (But it does stay installed, just in case)
I'm sure 100% of those are Konquerer users with forged headers.
*rolls eyes*
taken from a stickied post in their forums
I've used Winamp 5 pre-releases for a month, here's my observations:
* FAST: As snappy as 2.x even on old machines using the "classic" skin.
* STABLE: In a month of use, no crashes or uncouth behavior.
* 2.x FEATURES: "Jump" and "Physically Delete" have been re-introduced.
* SKINS: Works with version 2 and 3 skins. New default skin is user-friendly and purdy.
* RIPPING: Making good MP3s from your CDs is fast and easy.
* Global hotkeys: Control all program features through global hotkeys, e.g. press CTRL-ALT-5 to activate pause/play, even when Winamp is not focused as the active app.
* Media library: Quickly find songs based on title, album, and artist.
If you liked Winamp2 but not 3, you should give this a try.
I grabbed this from their forums and posted it in an earlier thread: "Why do I have to pay for MP3 encoding when it uses LAME which is free and open source? Even though LAME is open source, Nullsoft has to pay per copy to Thompson for a licence to encode MP3. Thompson only offer MP3 encoding licences on a per-copy basis, so unfortunatly it has to be only included in the Pro version." ripping and burning is still free, just not in an unlimited format.
Uninstall? Welcome to the Windows world. Most applications that you "try, find out they are crap, and uninstall" leave pieces of themselves all over the system directory and registry.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
for those of you that prefere winamp3, :)
it will continue as wasabi-player. http://www.wasabidev.org/,
with they call a mostly opensource licence. but they do mention crossplatform
Ok. I'm a winamp2 nut. I refused winamp3. So naturally my first reaction when I heard about 5 was, screw that! winamp2 forevar!
But I couldn't resist trying it. So I downloaded the free winamp5. I must say that this is an appropriate analogy.
windows2000:windowsXP::winamp2:winamp5
winamp 5 can be turned into winamp2 with a few mouse clicks
windows xp can be turned into windows2000 in a few mouse clicks
winamp 5 can run every plugin, skin and visualization from winamp 2
windows xp can do everything windows 2000 can do
winamp 5 has more options and more features than winamp 2
windows xp has some stuff in it that win2k don't got
The audio quality is identical. On my fast pc the speed is identical. I don't need cd burning or ripping because I have CDex and Nero, so I don't need to pay for the pro version, which only costs 15$.
My faith in nullsoft has been restored. I'll try winamp 5 a week and see if I find a reason not to use it.
Oh, the minibrowser is gone (yay!) but it is present in the media library (boo!), but you can click one button and it will go away (yay!). So it's all good.
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Another, very interesting feature is NSV streaming video.
Like the 'internet radio' stations streamed by shoutcast, there are a few internet TV stations. This my friends, is truely significant. Winamp becomes a digital-tv tuner (....i dont mean HDTV). People will be able to stream out any video they'd like -- the other day I watched a few episodes of aqua teen hunger force, some pr0n, and the movie Phone Booth.
Imagine a million streams of public access tv, mixed up with random bits of quality niche movies/shows....
THAT is what makes winamp5 cool. Now, i might just be ignorant, but is there another app that puts a selection of streaming video stations together for you to surf?
Those idiots should have torrented this. Here's a working link though:p 50_full.e xe
http://64.12.168.244/winamp/client/winam
Just downloaded the 'lite' version and gave it a whirl. I ripped my Coldplay CD at 192 Kbps and it sounds GREAT in ITunes, crystal clear (using default setting). I played the same file under Winamp5 default, and it sounds really muffled. Is it just me or other people are experiencing the same thing? As it stands right now I'm sticking w/ITunes.
I don't know how much you know about DNS, but here goes:
When you request a URL, you make a request to your ISPs DNS server. It, in turn, makes a request back to (eventually) the rood DNS servers. Those point you to the DNS server of the domain you are trying to reach.
ftp.winamp.com
www.winamp.com
mail.winamp.com
download.winamp.com
Are all resolved to IP addresses by the DNS server sitting in the winamp campus.
So, when someone made the entries in their DNS, www.winamp.com and winamp.com were pointed to different IP addresses. One should have been an a-record (I think) and the other should have been an alias (or cname) to the first. But that didn't happen.
At some point, someone changed the IP address of the http server and only one DNS entry was updated.
winamp.com resolves to 205.188.245.120
www.winamp.com resolves to 205.188.244.138
So it looks as if Winamp has two servers sitting on two seperate class C address spaces in their NOC.
In short, bad DNS management and oversight lead to two DNS entries for two webservers on seperate address spaces.
I'd rather you do it wrong, than for me to have to do it at all.
Actually, if you were to actually READ THE OPTIONS ON THE DOWNLOAD PAGE (link), instead of just blindly clicking "submit", you would see the following options:
:P
Download the free player
Select your operating system:
[ ] Mac OS X v10.2.5-10.2.8
[ ] Mac OS 8.6/9
[ ] Win 98/Me/2000/XP
[*] QuickTime and iTunes for Windows 2000/XP
Perhaps you should concider reading the entire page before bitching about it on Slashdot. It makes you look like a jackass.
Oh crap, n00b alert. How do you delete posts here?
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Let's try that again shall we.
QUOTE:
iTunes is slow as hell on my reasonably fast system but I deal with it because I love its song rating system and smart playlists. Syncing with my ipod comes in a close second behind any of these. A quick glance at winamp 5 seems like it has none of these
Look again my friend.
Winamp 5.0 has song ratings & smart playlists in the media library, and much much more, and there's also an iPod plugin available here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=10
To be truthful, in general, too many people have blindly posted here without at least even trying out Winamp 5 first. How can you knock something without actually trying it? Forget about any grievances you had with Winamp3, this is Winamp. The same old Winamp you all once knew and loved. This is Winamp 2.x updated with a few extra features (if you decide to install them) - yes, remember, Winamp is MODULAR - you decide which features you want - and this includes the option to not install support for freeform skins, video, media library, and any other optional feature/plugin. Heck, you can even install a Lite version to upgrade your 2.x version to the latest 2.x equivalent version - but with loads of bug fixes.
And, as for people moaning about paying for it - well you don't ever have to pay for it if you don't wish. There's no nag screen or anything. So, you don't need the ripper or burner, fine, download the Standard Free version instead, with all the features of Pro, except for ripping & burning.
But if you want Pro, then Nullsoft actually has to pay for the licence, on a per user basis, to Thomson/FhG for MP3 Encoding, to Dolby for AAC encoding, and to Veritas/Sonic Solutions for the ripping/burning engine.
So, you've got an app which does it for free, have you? Well, just do a bit more research first, and I think you'll be quite surprised at the results of your find. I won't go into too greater detail, because this post is long enough as it is - but hey, all I can say is this:
Please just give it a try first, just for a few days even, and then if you're not happy, sure, go ahead and uninstall it and then come back here with a valid criticism.
Thank you for your time.
Oh, and if anyone's having problems downloading it,
then try here (download.nullsoft.com direct ip link):
http://64.12.168.244/winamp/client/winamp50_full.
I use Winamp for playing files with weird extensions, because there are so many nifty plugins that let me listen to PSFs, NSFs, etc.
I used to use Winamp for that, but now I use Foobar 2000. While not as polished as Winamp, it's an amazing piece of software.
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That still makes more sense than intel's chip versioning.
Back in the early 90's, the original Pentium was called "P5." 5th generation, I believe, whereas the 80386 and 80486 were 3rd and 4th gen.
For example, Gateway had model numbers like "P5-120" for 120MHz Pentiums.
Pentium Pro became P6.
Then came the Pentium 2. This became abbreviated as P2. Or sometimes P-II.
Pentium 3 = P3. Or sometimes P-III.
Pentium 4 = P4.
I sure hope they never come out with anything called "Pentium 5" or somebody will get punched.
But if I didn't know any better, I'd say that a Commodore-128 was twice as powerful as an Athlon-64.
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I take exception to the "nobody else comes close" part. J. River's Media Center has been doing everything iTunes offers for years, and with much more of the versatility that /. readers seem to crave than iTunes will ever give you.
Yet if you're really attached to the look of iTunes, someone made a dupe.
I've been using both iTunes & the Winamp 5 betas for about a month now. I've also been attempting to digitize and organise my library of CDs and LPs for about that same amount of time. At first I attempted to use iTunes for all my purposes. It's fantastic for organising genres and editing tags. It's also great for ripping CD's. It's very fast and seemless cddb fetching is a big plus (though CPU intensive). What people here may not know is you can rip to not only AAC or MP3 but uncompressed WAV as well. This is particularly handy as I encode all my MP3s using LAME as I want the best quality MP3s as possible. My usual method is this:
1. Rip CD in iTunes to WAV files
2. Remove WAVs from iTunes and encode to MP3 using LAME
3. Using WinXP (right click properties), apply batch Tags (artist, album title etc) to MP3s.
4. Import MP3s back into iTunes and apply remaining tags/picture.
I've attempted to do the same thing using Winamp, but iTunes has two real advantages. 1. It rips CDs without $$$. 2. Its clean interface makes organising genres much more easily/intuitively.
Where Winamp shines is playing individual files (outside of my collection) and those of oddball extensions. Either way, we're all better off now than just a few months ago.
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The company that AOL wants you to forget they own... Nullsoft releases cool software called Waste, AOL pulls plug almost instantly. Nullsoft releases cool software called AIMazing, AOL pulls plug almost instantly.
I still use WinAmp, but this company no longer whips the llama's ass.
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mention the fact that you can't do a lot of things (like ripping to MP3) unless you pay for the Pro version.
Why would I want to use ripping software that doesn't detect read errors? I use Exact Audio Copy because I don't want to rip a CD and then discover, by ear, that the rip had errors. So who the hell cares if iTunes, Audiograbber, Zlurp!, Musicmatch Jukebox, etc. all have ripping features that might or might not properly rip any given CD?
I was excited to see some added stability to winamp so I gleefully downloaded Winamp5 and removed Winamp3. Now I cant load my bs4 playlists created in Winamp3. Whats the solution? The geniuses at Winamp want me to reinstall winamp3? What the Hell? From their FAQ: "What about my precious B4S playlists? Those are currently not loadable. However, you can convert them in Winamp3 to M3U or PLS playlists. :)"
Incidentally, if you are running Linux, you may be interested to know that Winamp 5.0 seems to work great under CrossOver Office.
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It has _always_ been there, mon ami. Therefore, I submit that your statement:was complely made up as it has absolutely no factual basis.
Perhaps if you actually paid attention to what you were doing, instead of bitching when something doesn't behave precisely as you expected, you'd get more milage out of the web.
*Shrug* Don't start attacking me just because you didn't RTFP. I don't quite see how that's mature/intelligent/fair/logical... but that does explain why you are posting as an anonymous coward instead of being willing to back up your opinions.
I tried forever to download winamp5 from the main website, but failed. But I found a bunch of mirrors on filemirrors.com. here is a direct link
Can't wait to try it out!!
Shireen
Isn't there a Linux port under way? Has anyone tried that out and can share their experience?
... us early adopters who actually paid for WinAmp back in the day?
:)
If I'm not mistaken, you could purchase WinAmp back then with free upgrades for life. 2 monthes later, they honored that contract by making it free. Now that the Pro version isn't, I want my free upgrade
Since when is it acceptable to post a link to an EXE file on another website from the front page of slashdot? Sure, we're all geeky enough to check for the atpersand in the url, but it's still a disgrace, IMHO. Not to mention it's bad etiquette toward the creator of the app, who would probably prefer a link to their site homepage, or the download page at the very least.
What's interesting is that with minimal trouble Winamp 5 installs and runs on Wine! (I'm using Wine 20031212.) That should open up Winamp 5 to a lot of people. I haven't done much experimentation but the player works (including Shoutcast streams), so does the equalizer. The visualization plugins however cause Wine to crash.
I've found pages that were obviously personal start pages in my logs for autopr0n, and google indexed mine and put it up as the third search result on my real name (amazingly, they actualy removed it from their index when I emailed them).
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
Winamp 5.0:
* Support for classic Winamp 1.x/2.x/2.9x skins and Winamp 3 ("Modern") skins
* Fancy new modern skin:
- Integrated video, AVS, and Milkdrop support
- Many built-in colorthemes
* Same ol' classic skin for people who want the Winamp 2 feel
* Vastly more powerful media library:
- Automatic background directory scanning options
- Customizable views and columns, graphical view editor
- Internet Radio (SHOUTcast) and TV listings
- Context-sensitive item info viewer
* CD ripping support (AAC@2x in free version, MP3 at unlimited speeds in pro)
* CD burning support (limited to 2x in free version)
* Advanced title formatting logic for file types that support it
* Huge AVS updates:
- New effects, bundled some popular 3rd party APEs
- A much better selection of default presets
- Experimental SMP support
- Full AVS preset subdirectory support
- Extensions and optimizations to the AVS evaluation library
* Support for playback of AAC and VP6 in NSV files/streams
* Global hotkey support
* new Signal Processing Studio DSP plug-in
* Options to disable plugin exception handling for developers
* A ton of new plug-in API calls (SDK forthcoming)
* fixed changing-systray options while minimized bug
* new Winamp icon
* added XP Manifest.xml to winamp.exe
* made agent icon use configured winamp system tray icon
* optimized winamp's load titles on demand logic, made faster
* made winamp's internal submenu management more reliable
* added skin font override preferences
* added spacebar shows current playlist item in playlist editor
* fixed manual playlist advance w/ repeat
* made winamp's open directory recurse checkbox nicer looking
* big prefs overhaul to make steve happy
* huge thanks to Amir Szekely and the rest of the NSIS developers
for their help
The problem with moderating something as "troll" is at one reader's troll is another reader's "interesting". Likewise, an insightful comment, when provocative, is "flamebait" to a flamer.
FWIW, a troll in the eye of the beholder is flamebait, or at least deathbait, with the beholder's 13-level "Finger of Death" ray causing at least 3d6+13 HP damage to a 6d8+36 troll (_Monster Manual_ v3.5 pp26-7, 247).
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Good lord, man. If you don't stop being so defensive, you're going to combust spontaneously.
I call what you have "Apple Defensiveness Syndrome" (ADS) and it isn't healthy. I've lost many friends to the (dis)order. Suddenly, all Apple jokes and/or criticisms (or even mention of rivals) become lightning rods that threaten to ignite flamewars of gigantic proportions.
Try repeating this to yourself every time you get upset: "It's only a computer, it does not reflect my self worth."
Well, providing that freecache has a chance to cache it in the first place this link should always work, without ip or referrer tracking :)
Dude... just click on the link.
Umm... as the title of this article clearly states:
"Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp 5"
The new version of Winamp is basically Winamp 2.x with the features of 3.0. I guess Nullsoft has a sense of humor regarding version numbers.
Well, they changed the decoder back to the older version, which was apparently better. Certainly, I can tell you that my MP3 seem subjectively to sound better with the new WinAmp 5 than they did with WinAmp 3, which managed to make them all sound like shit.
3. Using WinXP (right click properties), apply batch Tags (artist, album title etc) to MP3s.
When you do this, is it just working with the filesystem metainfo that is available for all types of files, or is it actually working with the ID3 tags in the files? My initial thought was the former, but if it is the latter, then props to Winderz cuz thats pretty fsckin' cool.
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