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Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp 5!
An anonymous coward writes: Having been a loyal iTunes user for quite some time, after seeing the report on Ars Technica about the newly released Winamp 5 Final, I simply had to try it out. It's pretty amazing, rivaling iTunes in many ways on Windows (mainly, speed). Ripping, library, etc: They're all there. Plus it comes with a slew of of new scriptable features. Simply put, it's dead sexy. Get your copy now! Note, last link requires some other OS.
You know.. the one that hardly anyone uses.. I think its called Windows or something.
:)
Obscure thing.
Also note, the link does appear to look at the referrer. Able to get to the file from WinAmp.com, but not from the direct link.
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Will it be winamp 10?
See?
Also, if you're going to compare it to iTunes, mention the fact that you can't do a lot of things (like ripping to MP3) unless you pay for the Pro version.
iTunes is free, right?
So maybe somebody should mention this.
Is this truly the only Earth I can live on?
That really licked the llama's ass.
Winamp doesn't run on my G5.
Looks like you have to pay $15 to get MP3 encoding and CD burning functionality. Considering a lot of people want to rip and burn to save money (read: nicking songs!), this seems a pretty stupid idea if they want to go better than iTunes, and any other software which will do it for free.
I'm still using 2.whatever because it's faster than the newer versions, which have no additional features worth the speed decrease.
Note, last link requires some other OS.
Imagine that a product called Winamp requires windows.
only if * != xmms
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Moments after this story was posted, the download links were unavailable. Glory be the power that is slashdot!
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From the bullet list below the screen shot:
Most things actually work!
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http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp5 0_full.exe brings up 404.
Looks like someone at Nullsoft saw the HUGE load and pulled the file.
anyone got a Mirror?
Visit CryptoGnome in his home.
I've been watching videos in winamp 2 for a while. It even runs better than Windows Media Player, though sometimes it's upside-down. I don't think the reviewer ever tried to run video in winamp.
And another thing: 4MB?
Winamp 2 is 1MB. No, thanks. I'll stick with my winamp 2.
When I go to http://winamp.com it looks different than when I go to http://www.winamp.com Why?
I'm still using Winamp 2 because they later started to degrade the project with bloating. Is this one really good, and is there any whiff of "DRM" to tell me what I cannot do with my own content on my own machine?
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
Hey everyone! I just wanted to let you know that while iTunes allows you to rip to .mp3 or AAC as well as other things (like run on a Macintosh) for FREE, you have to pay for the pro-version of WinAmp to do the same things (well...accept for the AAC and MacOS support).
Just wanted to mention this...
heh...oh well...I have some karma to burn.
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
I have used WinAmp in the past, and like most apps with "skins", it flashes, blinks, doesn't quite work right, and is generally retarded on Windows machines. Does this version finally work OK? Does anyone else have these problems?
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I just prefer music without the helicopter taking off sound of my laptops dvd-rom drive.
2+3=5
Is Nullsoft adopting a Fibonacci versioning system?
'cause that would be awesome.
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dude - relax.
.exe is. or they may assume it is just a mis-named zip. or something. there is nothing wrong with pointing out that the file at the link provided is platform specific. I also don't find it insulting to say "some other OS." He probably is not using Windows. It's not like he said "some other CRAPPY OS".
actually, some people may not know what an
If there's anything worse than ia troll, it is someone hunting imaginary trolls.
Schrodinger's cat is either dead or really pissed off...
hijack your bookmarks and change your video preferences to open everything in Winamp regardless if you specifically denied it that right during setup?
After Winamp3 did that to me, that was it.
This guy is way out there
ever tried adding the track.cda files in manualy? I had this same problem for awhile I did something that fixed it and got around this issue but I have no clue at this point what it is since I use xmms in linux now :)
Ive been using itunes since its windows release, but its so freaking bloated its not funny. The thing that really matters with a media player anymore is the media library capabilities. Ive been able to overlook how slow iTunes runs for that reason, and if winamp can do the same things while not choking my computer, then three cheers
For me, iTunes sets the bar here, as far as anything I've tried on Windows. It's so easy in iTunes to drag songs to other playlists. Why does iTunes get this SO right, and nobody else comes close?
What I like to do is listen to my entire collection on shuffle, most of the time. Occaisionally I'll hear a song that I'd like to add to one of my playlists (coding music playlist, one for my next roadtrip, etc). In iTunes this is easy. In Winamp it's possible but kind of a mess, and you can't drag from the playlist window to the list of playlists in the Media Library window. And I diskike the "let's have a different window for everything" interface concept of Winamp in general.
Those are nitpicky concerns, but for a music player they're pretty vital. It's got to be easy to use, since I have it open, off to the side, while coding... if I have to devote a lot of thought to futzing around with somebody's kludgy interface, it's a big distraction.
Not that iTunes is perfect. Chugs like a mofo when you've got 50-60GB of music imported...
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"Its dead sexy."
Great, now everytime I run Winamp, I'm going to think about fat bastard! "I'm Soooo Sexxxxxxxxy". Thanks for the mental vision!
Sig it.
overall, its nicer having separate programs for playing/riping/burning, etc
This is why I see no problem with them charging for "WinAmp Pro" and its ripping/burning capabilities. I'd stick to Nero and other programs anyway. If you want a do-it-all program, $15 ain't a lot.
Not that this will in any way subdue the comments that complaint about this.
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It's odd how http://www.wimamp.com brings you to the new site for Winamp5, but http://winamp.com/ brings you to the Winamp3/2 site. guess they want to let people get the old ones still, in case this one turns out to be unliked by some people.
Blah Blah Blah OGG
Blah Blah Blah ITUNES
Blah Blah Blah WINDOWS
Blah Blah Blah LINUX
Blah Blah Blah FILE SIZE
Use what works for you, and quit trying to change the masses....You'll find that if people discover stuff for themselves, they would be more likely to embrace it due to them having ownership in it.
It is any wonder why noone takes this site seriously anymore!!!
The Trolls have finally won!
you can't do a lot of things [in Winamp] (like ripping to MP3) unless you pay for the Pro version.
MP3 is patented, and the patent holder is not willing to license encoders on royalty-free terms.
iTunes is free, right?
The iTunes client is proprietary, and the no-charge version's MP3 encoder licensing fees are presumably subsidized by QuickTime Pro revenue and Macintosh hardware revenue.
Didn't iTunes for Windows only drop a month or two ago? How does one count a month as being a "long time" user?
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the interface is much cleaner and the functions it performs out of the box are very good. it is also very easy to choose functions and navigate your library. I think this is a winner.
I am the Alpha and the Omega-3
I can't find the link off hand, but I seem to recollect CmdrTaco revealed in an IRC log that over half of /. hits were from Windows.
Read reviews of shopping cart software
i've installed it and checked their TV stations, and was quite surprised to see all the streaming sex stations.
i was expecting cnn, but instead i got some nice TnA. nice touch nullsoft!
If you don't know what AltaVista is (was), get off my lawn.
It runs on Linux and Windows and supports nifty themes.
http://www.zinf.org
http://sourceforge.net/projects/zinf/
It's actually was named Winamp3, not Winamp 3. Supposedly Nullsoft really wanted to have mp3 in the product name...
..for the day when we get the first all-in-one program that combines all these stupid all-in-one media players. Always use MetaMedia to open WinAmp in the future? [ Ok ]
And another thing: 4MB?
Winamp 2 is 1MB. No, thanks. I'll stick with my winamp 2.
Why don't you just follow the link and get the 655k Lite version, then?
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ITYM Some Crappy Other OS. I keep expecting the obligitory post stating that "some other OS is dying".
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
iTunes runs on Windows now, too. Time to crawl out from underneath that rock you've been living under...
holy crap, it has free prono movies streaming as part of the TV service :-)
I am the Alpha and the Omega-3
the less well-known, feature packed, tiny player xmplay is better. don't pay for winamp pro if you want to rip cds because xmplay does it ;)
p.s. please don't flood the site ;)
There is a lite version available here, which doesn't include freeform skinning, or video, and is basically "old school" winamp2. And it's only 650kB.
... for some time?
How long has that service been around that one can make it sound like they've been a subscriber to iTunes from way back when it was just a local band?
link requires some other OS... than the ones that 10% of slashdot readers use as their primary desktop OS.
If it was only 10% I'd be suprised. Have they ever published OS breakdown stats? (yes I read a lot, only to bring up the OpenBSD count
Trolling is a art,
Then all of a sudden the 'put AOL icons on your desktop' bit was included, and now they want money for the full version of Winamp?
No thanks, Nullsoft.
You've got an iBook and an iPod but you don't use iTunes? I smell BS.
yea i use EAC for ripping.
i mean how often does one rip CDs anyway? I'd bet not often enough to have opening another program all that much of a hassle
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"...I keep expecting the obligitory post stating that "some other OS is dying"....."
Well, somewhere in the world at this very moment an OS is dying.
Hard to be modded Troll for a statement like this!
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
Some Crappy Other OS
it just always has to come back to either sco or micorsoft. or both. gah!
Schrodinger's cat is either dead or really pissed off...
I'm stuck using Windows at work. I saw the "other OS" and thought "Great, I can finaly run it on Linux!" Sadly I found it wasn't for the "other" OS.
The truth shall set you free!
Well, if they won't let us download the free version from them, we'll just have to take what we can get...
I used to use Winamp all the time, so when 5.0 was released, I jumped and downloaded it.
Only to find out it doesn't seem to play WMA lossless.
I have 60GB of free space and a pretty darn good 7.1 speaker system on this computer. I don't need to compress the music I listen to into a lossy format, so I went with WMA lossless when I re-encoded my collection.
So, unless I've found a bug, Winamp 5 is out for now. (But it does stay installed, just in case)
You mean it now has most of the functionality of MusicMatch? I'm still looking for a Linux player that can do what MusicMatch does (not that winamp is a linux player, I'm just saying).
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When I try to play files I've downloaded in Napster and am authorized to play them I get the following error:
In order to play this file, you need to upgrade your media player to a version compatible with Windows Media Rights Manager V7. Select View Compatible Players below to see a list of compatible media players.
These files play fine in Roxio AudioCentral, Napster, and Windows MediaPlayer, and I'm sure other apps. Whats interesting is that I get linked to this page for a list of compatible software and WinAmp is listed on there.
taken from a stickied post in their forums
Download from the previously mentioned mirrors.
Dunno what Nullsoft are doing, but I couldn't d/l from the main site. Looks like the files aren't there.
iTunes is slow as hell on my reasonably fast system but I deal with it because I love its song rating system and smart playlists. Syncing with my ipod comes in a close second behind any of these.
A quick glance at winamp 5 seems like it has none of these (Thought I guess asking for ipod syncing is getting a bit greedy isn't it?)
Not to be a troll, but it seems to me that anything beyond version 2 is just bloated.
...and paying for the pro version to rip Mp3s? Are they crazy? Do they not realize the plethora of free ripping utilities that are available?
I mean, the main function of this software is to play music (and video for some). Looking at all these extra "features" makes me wonder if anyone truly uses these. Visualizations are cool for a few minutes, or if you're really stoned out of your mind, a few hours.
Sounds like AOL is pulling the strings on this one! Notice the "Add AOL icons to desktop". No thank you!
We have secretly replaced these Slashdot mods' sense of humor with a rusty nail. Let's see if they notice!!
I've used Winamp 5 pre-releases for a month, here's my observations:
* FAST: As snappy as 2.x even on old machines using the "classic" skin.
* STABLE: In a month of use, no crashes or uncouth behavior.
* 2.x FEATURES: "Jump" and "Physically Delete" have been re-introduced.
* SKINS: Works with version 2 and 3 skins. New default skin is user-friendly and purdy.
* RIPPING: Making good MP3s from your CDs is fast and easy.
* Global hotkeys: Control all program features through global hotkeys, e.g. press CTRL-ALT-5 to activate pause/play, even when Winamp is not focused as the active app.
* Media library: Quickly find songs based on title, album, and artist.
If you liked Winamp2 but not 3, you should give this a try.
Woo Hoo! I've been waiting for this player for a while. Oh it also plays music? Who cares when we've got free pr0n!!!
As if we weren't supposed to know what OS an EXE is for?
exe... exe? is that in a.out format or in elf?
I'm a chainsmokin' alcoholic sociopath, so-ci-o-path
It is possible this is load balanced across multiple servers and one of them you hit is broken
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CNN viewers were 4 times more likely to say that the 9-11 planes were flown by Bush administration operatives (the same ones who crashed Wellstone's plane)
MSNBC viewers of "The Savage Nation" believe that the jets were piloted by homosexuals.
NPR listeners were 4 times more likely to claim that the 9/11 jets were piloted by Palestinian activists in a justified reaction to Zionist aggression.
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"Rush Limbaugh" listeners were 4 times more likely to think that 9-11 was caused by a band of feminazis led by Hillary "Screaming Witch" Clinton.
Satan himself was at the wheel. 4 out of 5 "700 Club" viewers swear it is so.
I know with the advent of Windows XP a delay of 5-10 seconds before any GUI updates has become commonplace, even on a P4, but I liked Winamp 2's ability to just start playing music.
Uninstall? Welcome to the Windows world. Most applications that you "try, find out they are crap, and uninstall" leave pieces of themselves all over the system directory and registry.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
Unfortunately, you will probably never see Winamp 5 on Linux, just as Winamp 3 was never released officially, in spite of hearing from Nullsoft that it would "be released soon." It looks that Wasabi is being released under a new license that permits certain components to be open-sourced, so we could see a Winamp 3 port for Linux eventually. There are some noted in the Wasabi development forum on the Winamp site.
for those of you that prefere winamp3, :)
it will continue as wasabi-player. http://www.wasabidev.org/,
with they call a mostly opensource licence. but they do mention crossplatform
I disagree. The Winamp 5 beta is basically Winamp 2 with modern skin support, a media library, and several new add-ons. Basically, Nullsoft listened to what people said when they released Winamp3 (basically that it was a huge RAM hog and was way too bloated), and took most of the good features of Winamp3 and merged them back into Winamp 2. Hence, Winamp 2 + Winamp3 = Winamp 5. I suggest you give it more of a shot, again, it's basically an enhanced version of Winamp 2.
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This is Slashdot. Of course I'm going to boldly make the same cheap shots that everyone else has done before.. ;^)
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
It means that version is final. Ie 5.0 is done, next is either something like 5.1 or 5.0.1. :x
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Ok. I'm a winamp2 nut. I refused winamp3. So naturally my first reaction when I heard about 5 was, screw that! winamp2 forevar!
But I couldn't resist trying it. So I downloaded the free winamp5. I must say that this is an appropriate analogy.
windows2000:windowsXP::winamp2:winamp5
winamp 5 can be turned into winamp2 with a few mouse clicks
windows xp can be turned into windows2000 in a few mouse clicks
winamp 5 can run every plugin, skin and visualization from winamp 2
windows xp can do everything windows 2000 can do
winamp 5 has more options and more features than winamp 2
windows xp has some stuff in it that win2k don't got
The audio quality is identical. On my fast pc the speed is identical. I don't need cd burning or ripping because I have CDex and Nero, so I don't need to pay for the pro version, which only costs 15$.
My faith in nullsoft has been restored. I'll try winamp 5 a week and see if I find a reason not to use it.
Oh, the minibrowser is gone (yay!) but it is present in the media library (boo!), but you can click one button and it will go away (yay!). So it's all good.
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Yep; that feature is still there, at least with the default skin (dunno if keyb. shorcuts change with Moderna skin)
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iTunes supports playback of AAC formats. I recently converted some of mp3's to AAC and found the converted files took roughly 40% less space than the mp3's. Cool. I can do more with less.!
Another, very interesting feature is NSV streaming video.
Like the 'internet radio' stations streamed by shoutcast, there are a few internet TV stations. This my friends, is truely significant. Winamp becomes a digital-tv tuner (....i dont mean HDTV). People will be able to stream out any video they'd like -- the other day I watched a few episodes of aqua teen hunger force, some pr0n, and the movie Phone Booth.
Imagine a million streams of public access tv, mixed up with random bits of quality niche movies/shows....
THAT is what makes winamp5 cool. Now, i might just be ignorant, but is there another app that puts a selection of streaming video stations together for you to surf?
Those idiots should have torrented this. Here's a working link though:p 50_full.e xe
http://64.12.168.244/winamp/client/winam
Not that iTunes is perfect. Chugs like a mofo when you've got 50-60GB of music imported...
You sure ? My lib is 55GB now, and not cluggy at all. Runing on an AMD 1600XP with 512MB ram tho. But if you can afford to waste 55GB on mp3s, 512MB ram is even a small amount..
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Do I have to buy "Pro" to get that? Grrr....
Just downloaded the 'lite' version and gave it a whirl. I ripped my Coldplay CD at 192 Kbps and it sounds GREAT in ITunes, crystal clear (using default setting). I played the same file under Winamp5 default, and it sounds really muffled. Is it just me or other people are experiencing the same thing? As it stands right now I'm sticking w/ITunes.
I got hold of an alpha for winamp 5, and I have to say, it's almost completely changed in the later versions. Sure, it had some nifty little things like the media library, but in the later versions (I have the beta version, rc10, haven't snagged a recent copy yet) the things like having total control of the gui and such just made me want to wet my pants right then and there. Winamp rocks...
Is it Solaris or something else?
http://download.nullsoft.com/
Internet TV.
aka "Free High-Quality Pron"
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I used Winamp2 until 2.91 started randomly stopping in the middle of tracks. I swear it was the upgrade to Dell GX240s around here-- everybody started having problems with Winamp. Winamp3 didn't appeal to me very much, so I went through Sonique, Zinf, and a few others too horrible to remember, and finally decided that foobar2000 sucked the least. Its interface isn't pretty by any means, but I keep it minimized unless I'm switching tracks anyway. Beware: It doesn't do ID3v2 tags, only ID3v1. I rip all my stuff to Ogg Vorbis anyway, so that's not my problem :)
I don't know how much you know about DNS, but here goes:
When you request a URL, you make a request to your ISPs DNS server. It, in turn, makes a request back to (eventually) the rood DNS servers. Those point you to the DNS server of the domain you are trying to reach.
ftp.winamp.com
www.winamp.com
mail.winamp.com
download.winamp.com
Are all resolved to IP addresses by the DNS server sitting in the winamp campus.
So, when someone made the entries in their DNS, www.winamp.com and winamp.com were pointed to different IP addresses. One should have been an a-record (I think) and the other should have been an alias (or cname) to the first. But that didn't happen.
At some point, someone changed the IP address of the http server and only one DNS entry was updated.
winamp.com resolves to 205.188.245.120
www.winamp.com resolves to 205.188.244.138
So it looks as if Winamp has two servers sitting on two seperate class C address spaces in their NOC.
In short, bad DNS management and oversight lead to two DNS entries for two webservers on seperate address spaces.
I'd rather you do it wrong, than for me to have to do it at all.
that's friggin hilarious...
How exactly is this parent any less off-topic than the grandparent? We do not need to read the endless political crap in a topic about Winamp.
so, drop the -rc3 and just be done with it already.
I mean gimme a break, it's going to have SOME bugs.
I call it "splatterware": installation of software that splatters itself all over the hard disk.
I did a double-take recently when I downloaded mplayerc.exe: it was self-contained! Just one file.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
WinAMP.com != www.WinAMP.com
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I find that the Winamp visualazations are not very effiecient. I have an Athlon 2400+, Gefore 4 ti4600, and 512MB DDR-400 and I can't even run the visualaztions at 640x480. Anyone know how to get some performance out of it?
Actually, if you were to actually READ THE OPTIONS ON THE DOWNLOAD PAGE (link), instead of just blindly clicking "submit", you would see the following options:
:P
Download the free player
Select your operating system:
[ ] Mac OS X v10.2.5-10.2.8
[ ] Mac OS 8.6/9
[ ] Win 98/Me/2000/XP
[*] QuickTime and iTunes for Windows 2000/XP
Perhaps you should concider reading the entire page before bitching about it on Slashdot. It makes you look like a jackass.
I've been using a pre release of WA 5 for about a week (came from WA3), and the one feature that made me love the video playback through winamp seems to be gone - the 30sec skip. Great for skipping through commercials on recorded shows! If i'm just a moron that didn't see the option, please somebody point it out to me!
I use Winamp for playing files with weird extensions, because there are so many nifty plugins that let me listen to PSFs, NSFs, etc.
I used to use Winamp for that, but now I use Foobar 2000. While not as polished as Winamp, it's an amazing piece of software.
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That still makes more sense than intel's chip versioning.
Back in the early 90's, the original Pentium was called "P5." 5th generation, I believe, whereas the 80386 and 80486 were 3rd and 4th gen.
For example, Gateway had model numbers like "P5-120" for 120MHz Pentiums.
Pentium Pro became P6.
Then came the Pentium 2. This became abbreviated as P2. Or sometimes P-II.
Pentium 3 = P3. Or sometimes P-III.
Pentium 4 = P4.
I sure hope they never come out with anything called "Pentium 5" or somebody will get punched.
But if I didn't know any better, I'd say that a Commodore-128 was twice as powerful as an Athlon-64.
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Is it called version 5 Final because of the staff reduction at AOL's California campus that houses Nullsoft?
You sure ? My lib is 55GB now, and not cluggy at all. Runing on an AMD 1600XP with 512MB ram tho. But if you can afford to waste 55GB on mp3s, 512MB ram is even a small amount..
I have a dual AthlonMP 1.2, 1GB ram. The mp3 collection resides on a 7200rpm Western Digital drive, 8mb buffer. The way it "chugs" is actually kind of weird. When the iTunes window gets focus, it's unresponsive for about 5-10 seconds. During this unresponsive time, CPU activity does NOT spike according to Task Manager. RAM usage stays constant at around 40-50MB as well. For all intents and purposes iTunes.exe really looks like it's doing *nothing*.
The only anomalous thing I can see about iTunes.exe is that it has close to 1000 GDI objects open, which is 10x more than any other process. I don't know the reasons for or implications of that.
After 5-10 seconds it works fine and is responsive. The problem has gotten worse as I've imported more and more music into it, so I've assumed that it's a library-size thing.
Other people on the Apple iTunes forums have noted the same thing. I've
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I take exception to the "nobody else comes close" part. J. River's Media Center has been doing everything iTunes offers for years, and with much more of the versatility that /. readers seem to crave than iTunes will ever give you.
Yet if you're really attached to the look of iTunes, someone made a dupe.
You mean like Metacity does? :)
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ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/metacity/2.
You go ahead and download Winamp 5...
I'm waiting for Winamp 13
And what if it is the software itself that does not follow proper uninstall procedures? What then?
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
from the FAQ:
What Operating Systems are currently supported? Windows 98se, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows 2003.
however, I'm still stuck in NT on my work pc so I took my chances... and winamp 5 works fine! it's nice to have a media player that actually works on my work pc being that the recent versions of windows media player and quicktime don't work at all on nt...
Don't think so. There's already a alpha installer for v.6 (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/early/)
GET FREE APPLE STUFF!
Themassiah,
f b winamp50_full.exe8 1 winamp50_full.exe.orig
I'm not saying you did something to the file, but for some reason the md5sum does not match the one from nullsoft.
$ md5sum winamp50_full.ex*
43ecd335d7e4cfa2d78af90adb1bd8
d2d9d1f29a3ed853e364ffb5d5de45
Why is it so hot? Where am I going? What am I doing in this handbasket?
While I'm a M$ whore, I do what I can and run Litestep at home. A great shell replacement and includes VWM, custom shell scripts, yadda yadda yadda. But it doesn't always play nice with Winamp, despite several modules that interface the two. Its great the guys at Nullsoft have taken into consideration those running Litestep!
Why should I care? All I've ever wanted my Winamp to do is play files.
Is that a server of yours?
You should turn off directory listings if you don't want people wandering around.
Thanks for the mirror, anyway.
There are only 10 types of people: those who understand decimal, those who don't, and, uh, 8 other types I forget.
Or you could search google and find Winamp 2.95, which has Ogg encoding/ripping out of the box, and appears to not have the ripping throttling.
I could be wrong, though...
I've been using both iTunes & the Winamp 5 betas for about a month now. I've also been attempting to digitize and organise my library of CDs and LPs for about that same amount of time. At first I attempted to use iTunes for all my purposes. It's fantastic for organising genres and editing tags. It's also great for ripping CD's. It's very fast and seemless cddb fetching is a big plus (though CPU intensive). What people here may not know is you can rip to not only AAC or MP3 but uncompressed WAV as well. This is particularly handy as I encode all my MP3s using LAME as I want the best quality MP3s as possible. My usual method is this:
1. Rip CD in iTunes to WAV files
2. Remove WAVs from iTunes and encode to MP3 using LAME
3. Using WinXP (right click properties), apply batch Tags (artist, album title etc) to MP3s.
4. Import MP3s back into iTunes and apply remaining tags/picture.
I've attempted to do the same thing using Winamp, but iTunes has two real advantages. 1. It rips CDs without $$$. 2. Its clean interface makes organising genres much more easily/intuitively.
Where Winamp shines is playing individual files (outside of my collection) and those of oddball extensions. Either way, we're all better off now than just a few months ago.
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IE worked the first time I tried, while Mozilla & wget did not.
However, wget did work on the 7th try and IE failed on the second try.
So it looks more like it's a load share issue rather than IE favoritism.
I take exception to the "nobody else comes close" part. J. River's Media Center [musicex.com] has been doing everything iTunes offers for years, and with much more of the versatility that /. readers seem to crave than iTunes will ever give you. Yet if you're really attached to the look of iTunes, someone made a dupe [jriver.com].
Holy crow, that looks awesome. I just downloaded it. Thanks for the tip.
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I've used Winamp 2.91 for ages, I HATE 3 with a passion, so dang unstable. I wonder if statbar will support winamp 5 controls ;)
this thing liike interesting.
I've gotten into XMMS 1.2.8 in linux, that is when my sound works (gentoo + 2.4 + alsa + audigy != work ;( )
of course, mpg123 and cmix work from a console too, especally over SSH.
i'll grab 5 as soon as i get the opportunity. looks good to me.
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I've never been a big winamp fan. Certainly winamp3 sucked, but even winamp 2 was painfully flashy and obtuse, not to mention slow and awkward to use (although the playback performance was fine).
So after a lot of digging and trying every other player I could legitimately download, I found The Core Media Player. This is fast, simple, straightforward, and the performance is great.
So what does winamp5 have over TCMP? Not to start a flame war, just wondering if there's any reason I should bother downloading and trying it.
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wow do you have any idea how dumb that makes you look? i switched to linux becuase it's reliable and if I couldn't figure out windows I SURE AS HELL wouldn't have figured out linux.....get back in your hole troll
The thing that really matters with a media player anymore is the media library capabilities.
Your comment applies only in countries that don't have a service that sells the ability to download licensed recordings. In the United States, on the other hand, $2 for two songs is much cheaper than $13 for a CD with two songs and 10 pieces of crap.
Yeah I've been using the beta versions of WA5 for a few months, it's really cool! Got a lot more stable recently and it does everything I could want. Better than that iTunes milarkey.
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Slashdot might put random spaces in there somewhere...work it out.
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The company that AOL wants you to forget they own... Nullsoft releases cool software called Waste, AOL pulls plug almost instantly. Nullsoft releases cool software called AIMazing, AOL pulls plug almost instantly.
I still use WinAmp, but this company no longer whips the llama's ass.
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mention the fact that you can't do a lot of things (like ripping to MP3) unless you pay for the Pro version.
Why would I want to use ripping software that doesn't detect read errors? I use Exact Audio Copy because I don't want to rip a CD and then discover, by ear, that the rip had errors. So who the hell cares if iTunes, Audiograbber, Zlurp!, Musicmatch Jukebox, etc. all have ripping features that might or might not properly rip any given CD?
And just what the fuck is that supposed to mean in this context? How is it more proprietary than WinAmp?
I covered both speech and beer meanings of "free" for the sake of completeness.
but that doesn't stop iTunes being FREE AS IN BEER, does it?
Many users of the iTunes Music Store are too young to be free to drink beer. But to address your real point, there's no reason that, should iTunes fail to satisfy Apple in driving iPod player sales, Apple can't just 1. charge for MP3 encoding support in the next version of iTunes, 2. disable downloads of the old version of iTunes, and 3. disable playback of iTMS purchased tracks in the current version of iTunes, requiring many customers to move on to the next version. Just look at what happened to QuickTime between 2.5 and 3.0, when Pro was introduced.
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o Multiple libraries. I'd like to put some types of music in a different library. This would also help the performance, as I agree that larger libraries do slow down performance.
o Smart Playlists. These are cool, but I wish there was a way to limit the number of appearances in a playlist by a specific artist/style/etc. I have a huge amount of material by a couple of artists, and while I like it all, a "mix" that has 2/3s of its materials from two artists ain't much of a mix.
Beyond that, it's very nearly perfect. Perhaps some enhancement of the "style" field to better integrate sub-styles (eg, hard rock vs. alternative rock), but it's not necessary.
I was excited to see some added stability to winamp so I gleefully downloaded Winamp5 and removed Winamp3. Now I cant load my bs4 playlists created in Winamp3. Whats the solution? The geniuses at Winamp want me to reinstall winamp3? What the Hell? From their FAQ: "What about my precious B4S playlists? Those are currently not loadable. However, you can convert them in Winamp3 to M3U or PLS playlists. :)"
A WMD (whiff of massive dog-doodoo)?
Awesome + dog doodoo != Awesome, unfortunately...
Winamp 2 was the last good winamp (or good llama if u will). And something horribly wrong went on with Winamp 3......maybe it was 'cuz the programmers started using AOL...who knows.
Of course, with the equation above....it shouldn't result in dog doodoo; hopefully....
just my two cents, I still use the old winamp 2.8x (w/ MAD plugin), though I use my ipod more often (use ephpod or xplay to copy songs over; Musicmatch Jukebox > dog doodoo, is the reason)
However I've paused a track and carried on working on something else. 20 minutes later ... "Winamp has generated errors and will be shut down".
So I'm back to Winamp 2. Close but no cigar. I'll check back on it in about 6 months time.
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What's the footprint on it? Unless it's equal to or smaller than WA2 (which I doubt), the odds of pulling people away are slim. People looking for features switched to other programs/versions years ago. Those who still hold out (myself included) do so for the simplicity and small footprint of WA2.
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Incidentally, if you are running Linux, you may be interested to know that Winamp 5.0 seems to work great under CrossOver Office.
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It has _always_ been there, mon ami. Therefore, I submit that your statement:was complely made up as it has absolutely no factual basis.
Perhaps if you actually paid attention to what you were doing, instead of bitching when something doesn't behave precisely as you expected, you'd get more milage out of the web.
*Shrug* Don't start attacking me just because you didn't RTFP. I don't quite see how that's mature/intelligent/fair/logical... but that does explain why you are posting as an anonymous coward instead of being willing to back up your opinions.
I found MC9 to be a bit buggy though, enough that it wasn't worth buying it for me, and believe me I do like the functionality of it.It seems like the problem is that they spend too much time trying to add new features and not enough time tracking down the bugs. If you look in the forum you'll notice that they really pay attention to everyone's request for new features, which is good, but they just need to spend some more time on quality control.
There's a sticky on the Winamp forum about how to get various types of files to work. WMA lossless is on there.. good luck!
I tried forever to download winamp5 from the main website, but failed. But I found a bunch of mirrors on filemirrors.com. here is a direct link
Can't wait to try it out!!
Shireen
My problem with WinAmp is the poor quality of the MP3 decoder. Well, that and the fact that the library starts to be unreliable after about 3000 files.
Unless they have a working MAD plugin or have switched to using MAD internally, I don't see any advantage to using WinAmp.
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The problem with foobar2K, last time I tried it, was:
1) No good DSP effects
2) Eats CPU like my grandmother eats ham on Thanksgiving.
Has this changed?
+++ATH0
Isn't there a Linux port under way? Has anyone tried that out and can share their experience?
Looks like they finally fixed the Shuffle bug -- when you open a new .m3u with Shuffle preset, it used to always play the first file, then shuffle.
Looks like you have to pay $15 to get MP3 encoding and CD burning functionality. Considering a lot of people want to rip and burn to save money (read: nicking songs!), this seems a pretty stupid idea if they want to go better than iTunes, and any other software which will do it for free.
I'm not interested in substandard, all-in-one programs. I use Exact Audio Copy for ripping because I can trust it. If it says "no errors" then there were no errors. I can feed the rip to any encoder I want. I happen to like LAME 3.93.1 for MP3, but I could just as easily feed it to Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, Monkey's Audio, Shorten, etc.
Crappy all-in-one programs that lock you into poor quality, error-blind ripping software and encoders you can't upgrade may be fine for people who don't give a damn about quality, but I'm not one of those people.
Nice catch. Maybe some will whine less about windows only for winamp.
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... us early adopters who actually paid for WinAmp back in the day?
:)
If I'm not mistaken, you could purchase WinAmp back then with free upgrades for life. 2 monthes later, they honored that contract by making it free. Now that the Pro version isn't, I want my free upgrade
Heh, whatever happened to version 4? Oh yeah, iTunes is currently version 4, so if WinAmp released a version 4, it would be *gasp* on par with iTunes to the average consumer. So, with a version 5 it would clearly be one version ahead, and therefore superiour to iTunes to the general public.
Sigh, and I thought the stupid versioning number competition ended with Netscape and IE.
Since when is it acceptable to post a link to an EXE file on another website from the front page of slashdot? Sure, we're all geeky enough to check for the atpersand in the url, but it's still a disgrace, IMHO. Not to mention it's bad etiquette toward the creator of the app, who would probably prefer a link to their site homepage, or the download page at the very least.
A "refer" attribute in the HTML link tag. So you could do something like . That way you could simply point people to the right place.
Sites could get around that with a cookie, of course.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
What's interesting is that with minimal trouble Winamp 5 installs and runs on Wine! (I'm using Wine 20031212.) That should open up Winamp 5 to a lot of people. I haven't done much experimentation but the player works (including Shoutcast streams), so does the equalizer. The visualization plugins however cause Wine to crash.
I've found pages that were obviously personal start pages in my logs for autopr0n, and google indexed mine and put it up as the third search result on my real name (amazingly, they actualy removed it from their index when I emailed them).
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
My experience with Winamp 5 was pretty terrible. I Unlike version 3, the installation of Winamp 5 overwrote Winamp 2. It turns out 5 has gotten rid of some of the little features that I always liked about 2. For instance, the single-click playlist buttons are gone. I also was unable to find any option to load all of the filenames upon being added to the playlist. Winamp 5 prefers to load each filename one...at...a...time. With my 1000 or so MP3s, it's a rather long process. Just as in Winamp 3, I don't find the media library at all useful. Needless to say, I'm now back to using Winamp 2. Long live earlier releases...
The banner ad I'm seeing right now reads:
LinuxWorld Product Excellence Awards
Best Integration Software.
Microsoft Windows Services for UNIX.
It seems at least a few people have heard of this "Windows". link
Isn't WinAmp spyware?
...we are from the government - we are here to help...
Pardon me, but are you using an apostrophe to abbreviate loudspeaker to 'speaker? That's awesome!
Winamp 5.0:
* Support for classic Winamp 1.x/2.x/2.9x skins and Winamp 3 ("Modern") skins
* Fancy new modern skin:
- Integrated video, AVS, and Milkdrop support
- Many built-in colorthemes
* Same ol' classic skin for people who want the Winamp 2 feel
* Vastly more powerful media library:
- Automatic background directory scanning options
- Customizable views and columns, graphical view editor
- Internet Radio (SHOUTcast) and TV listings
- Context-sensitive item info viewer
* CD ripping support (AAC@2x in free version, MP3 at unlimited speeds in pro)
* CD burning support (limited to 2x in free version)
* Advanced title formatting logic for file types that support it
* Huge AVS updates:
- New effects, bundled some popular 3rd party APEs
- A much better selection of default presets
- Experimental SMP support
- Full AVS preset subdirectory support
- Extensions and optimizations to the AVS evaluation library
* Support for playback of AAC and VP6 in NSV files/streams
* Global hotkey support
* new Signal Processing Studio DSP plug-in
* Options to disable plugin exception handling for developers
* A ton of new plug-in API calls (SDK forthcoming)
* fixed changing-systray options while minimized bug
* new Winamp icon
* added XP Manifest.xml to winamp.exe
* made agent icon use configured winamp system tray icon
* optimized winamp's load titles on demand logic, made faster
* made winamp's internal submenu management more reliable
* added skin font override preferences
* added spacebar shows current playlist item in playlist editor
* fixed manual playlist advance w/ repeat
* made winamp's open directory recurse checkbox nicer looking
* big prefs overhaul to make steve happy
* huge thanks to Amir Szekely and the rest of the NSIS developers
for their help
Call me old-fashioned, but shouldn't version numbers follow a fairly predictable pattern?
The guts of 2 + the interface of 3 does NOT equal version 5.
Whatever.
And it seems to like my sound card too. I got a new media player.
Null
Seems like everytime I upgrade something like this, someone slips some new DCMA gizmo in. Remember when you could capture streams?
You are totally blocking my view of the wall. - Dogbert
I've seen all the explanantions that mp3 rip support requires a license fee....but what about CD burning?
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A nasty combination methinks. These days, the only reason I have at all in the entire universe to boot into Windows XP is to waste an evening playing AO. I like to listen to music whilst I do this, and I don't want to heave myself across the room to the CD player. I'd love to use Winamp 5 to play music in the background whilst I am in AO, but I've been playing with various beta and test versions for the last month, and it's not very happy. I randomly get blue screens giving an "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" message. So sadly, I either have to deal with the huge crap monster that is Media Player 9, or the bloat of iTunes, both of which lag me a lot more than Winamp does (when it's not busy causing bluescreens). Interesting side note: Windows XP fails at the one task I want to do - playing a game and listening to an MP3. Does this mean that Windows XP is 100% unreliable for me?
Sunday you're Thinking Different, Monday you're a huge tool, paying too much and waiting to think like everyone else.
:) no anger involved I'm just saying it's its kind of stupid to say something like my reason for switching to linux was because I couldn't figure windows out, thats not even logical if anything it would have been the other way around
There is also an unsupported alpha version of Winamp3 for linux here. u/p=wa3linux/llamawhip
Yep, it's winamp 3, it's buggy (it's winamp 3).. but may be we have some hope..
I still would like to have iTunes for linux..
Yeah, about 6 months ago I remember there being some discussion about some stats someone got where it was like 85% windows (and presumably about 5% mac). To be fair, I don't remember the source of those stats whatsoever, but I remember a big discussion of this. But yeah, big disclaimer here that if it turned out I got the numbers a bit wrong I wouldn't be surprised, but even just thinking about the 20 or so people I know who read slashdot, noone uses linux.
And not that I'm anti-linux at all, I just find CmdrTaco's comment about needing "some other OS" funny, since to almost everyone reading, they DON'T need one. I am sure a huge amount of slashdot readers use linux on servers at work or home, but for their desktop, mp3-listening machine, nah.
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See the "..for smart people" banners Wired runs here? Look elsewhere guys.
The problem with moderating something as "troll" is at one reader's troll is another reader's "interesting". Likewise, an insightful comment, when provocative, is "flamebait" to a flamer.
FWIW, a troll in the eye of the beholder is flamebait, or at least deathbait, with the beholder's 13-level "Finger of Death" ray causing at least 3d6+13 HP damage to a 6d8+36 troll (_Monster Manual_ v3.5 pp26-7, 247).
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After a long and stressful search from Microsoft officials for clues for creating the ultimate operating system that has more holes in it than swiss cheese, they discovered Nullsoft's Winamp 5.
...thus Windows 193 was born! People danced in the streets, DOS nuts went crazy, Microsoft Bob was hot stuff again, blah blah blah... use your imagination and make up your own ending.
"But wait a minute, 5 doesn't come after 3!", exclaimed one of the officials.
But after closer examination of this new addition to the Winamp family, they discovered its deep, dark secret:
"Gasp, 2 + 3 = 5! Yowza!", they squealed with glee.
In their final conclusions, Microsoft found there was no shame after all in resorting to something so old, something that ran better before and crashed 0.04% less. With this realization, their software engineers were immediately hard at work to create the bestest OS there ever was...
You wondered why Microsoft dropped support for Win 95 and 98 in the first place, didn't you...?
How about Xmms, the Winamp clone for Linux, running under Cygwin? Or a straight Win32 port? I'd love an open-source Winamp-alike. Or even some kind of plugin layer that lets me use Xmms plugins in WinAmp/Win32, like I can use WinAmp/Win32 skins in Xmms/Linux.
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The "iTunes-LAME Encoder" works great. It's on VersionTracker. That's one of the nice things about iTunes - pretty much everything but the actual player can be tweaked with plugins or libraries. I agree Apple zealots [disclaimer: I own a G4] can have quite an agenda, but please educate yourself on a product before you bash it; iTunes really is that good.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley
I might be quite offtopic but does anyone know whether there's a playlist-plugin for XMMS or a stand-alone player (*nix) that does all the fancy indexing stuff (and provides a treeview on your collection) like all these newer windows players seem to do?
I find that a pretty useful feature.
XMMS (still my player of choice, due to lack of alternatives) is nice but the whole playlist/file-management department is really horribly out of date.
Last time I checked even that ridiculous GTK File-Dialog was still in by default.
Isn't anyone else annoyed by the total lack of rudimentary playlist-"management" functions (grouping, searching, hierarchy stuff, indexing of removable media)?
I know about snackAmp and it seems to be a good approach but I stopped using it after too many bugs (most annoying: lost playlists) became too much of a hassle. Also the interface isn't quite up to it (way better than xmms, tho).
So, is there anything better out there for us
choosers of "the other OS"?
The "REFERER" HTTP header can be indispensible for managing state in an HTTP client/server system. Like cookies, it can be abused, like every other communications tool. Cross-site REFERER headers should be treated differently than infrasite REFERERs, by responsible programmers, and by responsible clients, just like cookies. Mozilla goes towards protecting privacy with the pref, but should give a better UI, and distinctions that can support privacy, without gutting user-approved, integrated client/server apps.
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Good lord, man. If you don't stop being so defensive, you're going to combust spontaneously.
I call what you have "Apple Defensiveness Syndrome" (ADS) and it isn't healthy. I've lost many friends to the (dis)order. Suddenly, all Apple jokes and/or criticisms (or even mention of rivals) become lightning rods that threaten to ignite flamewars of gigantic proportions.
Try repeating this to yourself every time you get upset: "It's only a computer, it does not reflect my self worth."
Of course, without REFERER, the site that sent you could send logs to the site to which they linked, which can compare timestamps and IP#s to recover all the REFERRER info without your cooperation. This is just like cookies. REFERER, like cookies, makes the client state cheaper and simpler to track. So even personal websites can use it, not just the profitable corporate websites that will expoit your clicktrail.
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Well, providing that freecache has a chance to cache it in the first place this link should always work, without ip or referrer tracking :)
One shouldn't have to pay for anything in this time and age, if you ask me. plus, it looks ugly.
Hey, I just tried it and it doesn't work with foreigh language file names. (i.e. the scroller doesn't display anthing but english and gerbrish)
On the other hand, even a rabid Media Center fan like me has to admit that nothing else comes close to the iTunes+iTMS combination for buying music online.
But since I've switched to only downloading free music that's not too big an issue for me.
It isn't true for itunes, but pretty much what most other companies say about mac support (or what was originally intended: linux support).
Don't remember where it was, and can't find it now, but Nullsoft mentioned once that it's Winamp, not WinAmp...notice how everywhere on the website, it's Winamp, and not WinAmp? Yeah...
Dude... just click on the link.
I avoided WinAmp 3 because the Window Shade mode was wider than my Windows Menubar. Which is the only mode that I use with WinAmp to playback music. WinAmp 3 also had some other issues, and eventually I retreated to ver 2.
Well, I'm glad to see that WinAmp 5 lets you set the Skin mode to Modern and Classic. (Read version 3 and 2.) And it starts a hundred times faster that ver 2 with my 1,000+ song play list.
I'm very happy with WinAmp 5! It's a keeper.
It appears as though they have removed the mp3 ripping plugin from their website. I guess I'm sticking with my beta copy of winamp5.
or else!
Personally, I use this rip/encorder: CDEx.
http://cdex.n3.net/
It rips, encodes, and names the files using the CDDB. Really good stuff. Uses LAME. Free.
A NYC lawyer blogs. http://www.chuangblog.com/
iTunes 4.1 checks for read errors.
I have a website. It's about Macs.
Kind of funny that you promote "porno for the people", but are ashamed of your association with it on Google.
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I think the title says it all. I tried WA3 and it had some nice features, but you weren't able to braodcast your Shoutcast stream using it, which took it right out for me. Will WA5 be able to broadcast Shoutcast, or is it going to be like WA3 which I have never been able to really use?
"Information wants to be expensive" - Stewart Brand, the same guy who said "Information wants to be free"
yes it does. i'm listening to an ogg right now.
YHBT. Now, I agree with some of these things you say but I've got to comment on a few others, regardless of the fact that it was a bite to a troll.
Irrelevant. That is the fault of the people committing the crimes, and no one else. I could likely find a rather large number of criminals where you live, but you have neglected to provide that information.
This is like saying that school systems that have shitty overall test scores don't need to do anything because it's all the kid's (or parent's) fault. Of course a lot of people (particularly Americans) DO sat that but they miss the overall point. Something is wrong and it is not fixing itself. Same goes for:
A problem, yes, but once again, the sole fault of those who don't control their eating and exercise habits. This does not consider the genetically obese; were only the genetically obese counted, the levels would almost certainly be similar to anywhere else.
You act like the U.S. is the only country with genetically obese people. Or that somehow there are more genetically obese people in the U.S. Unlikely. It has been proven time and time again that Americans eat more and worse than practically any other population and are less active to boot. This is a cultural thing. An American cultural thing.
Irrelevant. If a rich white male is elected, then a rich white male is elected. That's all it means.
If rich white males are the only ones who can get elected then obviously there is an issue here. Our current president, who is practically nothing but a rich white male, makes it evident that the list of "qualifications" is short.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, my friend.
Yeah that goes both ways.
>> God Bless America, and its massive and ever-growing poverty gap
Documentation, please.
Some things are just common knowledge. Do a web search for U.S. poverty gap and you find tons of documentation. This is no secret.
Irrelevant, given that all are either produced here or duly purchased from others. It is not as though they are stolen.
I think that the point here is that the U.S. is like a huge pig on the worlds resources. 280 million people out of 6 billion plus use 60% of the worlds resources. It's typical of an American to quantify this in money (I'm an American and did too the first time that I heard this argument) but it goes beyond that. Think of Agent Smiths "cancer" speech in The Matrix.
Dissolve... Resolve... Evolve...
You're not even a very good troll are you.
Any idea if it will rip to Vorbis formatt? Not available out of the box I know, but a pluggin maybe?
Link to privacy policy returns 404
Winamp's privacy policy is at http://www.winamp.com/disclaimer.php. It used to be on another page (Google chache here), but it was never at http://www.winamp.com/privacy, which the parent linked to - that's why you're getting a 404 error. Just in case you were wondering about that.
I produce electronic music and write little games. Have a look.
Ok it's great - but I don't appreciate it killing my bookmarks.
It's Christmas everyday with BitTorrent.
It asks if I want to add my media, it does so, and crashes when it attempts to access the internet.
Gee, and I was all set to pay them $15. Maybe release 5.1.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
I was looking for some more information about this on the Winamp forums.
I happened to run across this thread which seems to have links to a Linux nsv-encoder/server for the NSV.
I'm still looking for a Linux player, if anyone has any links I'd appreciate it. I don't want to have to resort to WINE.
How can I make WinAmp 5 point at the righteous FreeDB server, rather than the odious CDDB server? I don't trust CDDB with my personal usage data, after they "privatized" (stole) the CDDB data contributed by CDDB users for years, now requiring any querying client to pay them for a license. For my network architecture, I run "CDDB" queries against a local copy of the FreeDB on my LAN. Where's the WinAmp 5 config to point at FreeDB?
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I wish they media library was included in a package which didn't have the video stuff and other large plugins.
Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Gates M'dna wgah'nagl fhtagn.
Detractors: it's worth giving it a try before slating. Worth checking out plugins as well before commenting on the feature list.
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no it doesn't and I can't find a plugin either. Try the dbpoweramp converter, its a lot better for converting/ripping anyway.
I love its song rating system and smart playlists
Media Center 9 has simply the best Ratings and SmartLists.
If I were looking at iTunes as a WinAmp or MusicMatch user, it would probably seem absolutely amazing. But although it's a pretty nice app and reasonably powerful, I'm pretty sure I won't switch over from Media Jukebox, which I've been using for the last couple of years, because iTunes' playlist management is a lot less powerful than I'm used to.
MJ has had the "make a playlist out of query parameters" feature for years, but takes it further: you can define custom fields in the database and search on them (though to be fair, iTunes already includes the things I used those custom fields for.) More importantly, its notion of (non-dynamic) playlists is much more flexible -- you can use a song's presence on a static playlist as a query parameter for a smartlist. I've come to think of playlists as a way of attaching attributes to songs. It's a much more flexible, nuanced way to represent things like genre, where multiple values can easily apply to a song.
How is that useful? Well, for example, I have a playlist of background music for dinner parties. If I'm serving Mexican food one night, I can whip up a quick smartlist that says, "Play all the songs on both the Dinner playlist and the Latin playlist." Or better, if I decide I only want instrumental pieces, "Play all the songs on both the Dinner playlist and the Latin playlist, except ones on the Has Lyrics playlist."
As far as I can tell, other than putting lists of keywords in the Comments field and doing string searches, there's no way to do flexible user-data-driven queries like that in iTunes. You can add a song to a playlist, but the playlist is a data sink -- you can't leverage it for anything else. (If I'm wrong about that, please clue me in!) MJ also has a robust plugin interface for audio codecs, rip/burn capability, a built-in sound editor if you want to make a mix CD with fancy effects, ReplayGain support (same as iTunes' volume leveling), and supports downloading to a variety of portable MP3 players. The latest incarnation can also manage libraries of video files.
Other than the selection at the iTunes Store, I don't see a single thing iTunes gives me that I haven't already been enjoying for years with my existing software.
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iTunes schmeyechoonz, I am not interested in dinky little audio eyecandy, I want to know how the new WinAmp fares against some real competition, like Media Center. Can anyone with experience of both comment?
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great work sam, see how long you can keep this sucker going and how angry he'll get.
I like xmms (www.xmms.org). Unfortunately there is no win32 version. Luckily I don't have Windows :-)
What is this winamp anyways?
iTunes sets the bar here, as far as anything I've tried on Windows
You obviously haven't tried Media Center yet then?
Aside from static playlists, Media Center has SmartLists that are more flexible then the ones in iTunes.
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My lib is 55GB now, and not cluggy at all.
My library is 1TB+ of mp3, ogg, rm, mov, avi. iTunes dies horribly trying to catalogue it but Media Center manages it very well, even if it does take a few hours. Then it scores extra brownie points by serving up its catalogued library (within seconds) including playlists to other Media Center Clients, either over LAN or WAN.
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Multiple Libraries
Yep, Media Center has one-click switching between different libraries, either on-device or shared over LAN or WAN. Invaluable when I want to switch away from my girlfriend's mostly showtunes library.
Flexible Smart Playlists
Media Center has been working on SmartLists for years so their implementation is a good deal more advanced than Apple's. Don't believe me?
MC has had the "make a playlist out of query parameters" feature for years, but takes it further: you can define custom fields in the database and search on them (though to be fair, iTunes already includes the things I used those custom fields for.) More importantly, its notion of (non-dynamic) playlists is much more flexible -- you can use a song's presence on a static playlist as a query parameter for a smartlist. I've come to think of playlists as a way of attaching attributes to songs. It's a much more flexible, nuanced way to represent things like genre, where multiple values can easily apply to a song.
How is that useful? Well, for example, I have a playlist of background music for dinner parties. If I'm serving Mexican food one night, I can whip up a quick smartlist that says, "Play all the songs on both the Dinner playlist and the Latin playlist." Or better, if I decide I only want instrumental pieces, "Play all the songs on both the Dinner playlist and the Latin playlist, except ones on the Has Lyrics playlist."
As far as I can tell, other than putting lists of keywords in the Comments field and doing string searches, there's no way to do flexible user-data-driven queries like that in iTunes. You can add a song to a playlist, but the playlist is a data sink -- you can't leverage it for anything else. (If I'm wrong about that, please clue me in!)
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I have to doubt that WinAmp doesn't support Oggs, especially given the quantity of plugins available.
I note that Media Center supports Oggs, both decoding and encoding.
MC also supports a whole heap of other formats, including:
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I note that Media Center supports Oggs, both decoding and encoding.
MC also supports a whole heap of other formats, including:
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Much more customizable audio output support for one, can push out 24bit/96Khz if your card supports it, better dithering at 16 bits, etc. etc.
There's a MAD plugin for Winamp that decodes to 24 bits. The waveOut output plugin is supposed to carry those bits to the soundcard without rounding down to 16 bits.
Foobar can do gapless mp3 playback which according to hydrogenaudio discussions I've followed, looks to be pretty hard. The short gaps between songs that are gapless on CD when my iPod plays 'em back is quite disturbing. For instance, the Meridian Art Ensemble's Prime Meridian has Peaches En Regalia flow right into Let's Make The Water Turn Black and it's gorgeous, but the segue is wrecked on the iPod.
Foobar 2000 pushing the envelope doesn't let Apple get away with "it's too hard."
I note that Media Center supports Oggs, both decoding and encoding.
MC also supports a whole heap of other formats, including:
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I'm assuming the pre-releases were free, and permitted burning/ripping.
Yeah, yeah, I could just pay, but I already have software that burns & rips; it would be nice to have it all in one package, but not worth much money to me at the moment.
There are only 10 types of people: those who understand decimal, those who don't, and, uh, 8 other types I forget.
Only a left-winger would say this. Analysis shows a perception among the center AND right that the news media tilts left. Be honest: you're just another left-winger. Only because we've been listening to right wingers scream about a supposed liberal media for 40 something years. Just because someone screams something at the top of their lungs does not make it true. But, most people don't understand that. If they hear it enough, they think its true. That's why people will swear that urban legends are true. The media is not liberal (as a whole). The media is not conservative (as a whole). Yes, there are wingers out there. FOX News, is obviously right wing, not centrist. Their only 'liberal', Alan Colmes, is a ultra-mild liberal. Really, he's just a centrist with liberal leanings. But the media as a whole serves one master: Its self. Its all about the Benjamins, folks.
/. is a bunch of nerds at a million typewriters. It's not a political conspiracy determined to undermine your beliefs.
...Winamp3 isn't the same application as Winamp2, nor is Winamp5 the same application as Winamp2. Happily, everyone still gets Winamp free. Winamp Pro is Winamp with extras wot u pay for. Or not, as the case may be. :)
Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Gates M'dna wgah'nagl fhtagn.
3. Using WinXP (right click properties), apply batch Tags (artist, album title etc) to MP3s.
When you do this, is it just working with the filesystem metainfo that is available for all types of files, or is it actually working with the ID3 tags in the files? My initial thought was the former, but if it is the latter, then props to Winderz cuz thats pretty fsckin' cool.
Perl - $Just @when->$you ${thought} s/yn/tax/ &couldn\'t %get $worse;
what a waste of time. //server/mp3 ) but i have to add all directories separately or map the share.
i wanted to add my mp3 files on my server.
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a big library of all my files? very nice, but it's scanning behaviours are so strange it adds files twice.
and why the F### do i get a winamp2 player in the right bottom of my screen together with the winamp5 player?
nope. if i want to take pictures i take a camera, not a mobile phone.
if i want to listen to music i use winamp2 and not winamp5.
no bad words about the uninstall option (so far anyway)
Privacy is terrorism.
In truth i havn't gotten a flu shot either, i never get the flu, just colds (which i have now). It was a joke, flu shots are a favorite for conspiracy theorists (TFH wearers), also, if you remember that one simpsons, mr x, with the prisoner ending...
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
They have to pay royalties (for codecs, etc) for every copy of Winamp 5.0 Pro they ship. So giving away even, say, 10,000 copies of 5.0 Pro would cost them $25-50,000 just for the MP3 codec.
Assuming that roughly half of the $14.95 cost goes towards paying those royalties, giving away 10,000 copies of 5.0 Pro would cost $75,000. Hmmm, take a $75,000 hit or have a very, very small number of users be ticked off? Gee, let me think...
Remember, people who shelled out for a souped-up version of Winamp previously were doing so for the convenience factor - as many people have pointed out, that extra functionality can be had for free elsewhere, but not in a comparable "all-in-one" package. People who were willing to pay $15, roughly the price of one CD album, for a souped-up version of Winamp then will most likely show very little hesitation and almost no resentment at paying $15 for a new and improved souped-up version of Winamp now.
It may not be the charitable or ideal approach but it's certainly a practical and pragmatic one. I, and many others like me, won't begruge Nullsoft from trying to earn a living so that they can put food on their plates, especially if their product is a good as it seems.
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
Installed this on a machine with WIN98 FE (First Edition) and it's working perfectly. Had to take out the video plugins though since they run like crap (speed wise) compared to built in Media player of windows. :)
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...that's attached to the product.
You know, normally this would be a big thing, but given their ties with AOL...
Is this truly the only Earth I can live on?
I didn't know crackheads looked good! Cool!
lol. I hope they fix that iCal problem. I don't know how iCal reminders work, but it would seem like it'd have to have some sort of daemon running all the time. Is there one? Or is the problem that you have to have iCal.app itself running to receive alerts? I'd prefer a tiny little daemon if that's not already how it's done.
I didn't say it wasn't against the EULA. I said it wasn't "even unethical." Those aren't always the same thing. For example, it's ethical to sell counterfeit copies of Windows XP (or Mac OS X) if you absolutely must in order to feed your child (say, if you and your child were trapped on a desert island visited only by people intent on buying cheap software). It's not legal though, it's copyright infringement, and it definitely violates the Microsoft and Apple EULAs.
Ethics are personal. In my view, cracking a program just to get rid of the nag screen isn't unethical. Cracking it because you want/need the avanced functionality (say, Winamp 5) probably is.
Some reports about the "forthcoming" WinAmp 5 SDK claim that at least portions of it are open source. Where's the SDK? I want to see that new API, and any OSS.
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Unlike a lot of people I liked WinAmp3 and had no problems with it. But, it did take 6 to 8 seconds to load on my AMD 1700+. WinAmp 5 loads in about 3 seconds on my P200. Don't know that I'll care about the other "improvements". I like the classic skin and the fact that I can squish it up into 3 thin lines (player, equalizer & playlist) at the top of my screen and still get reasonable feedback on what's happening without getting in my way.
"Fibonacci, Lucas, who cares? Both of them seem to have achieved their place in (mathematical) history rather cheaply"
Do you mean George Lucas?
(Episode 1 + Episode 2) (Episode 6)
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
apparently you cant download it anymore, but i used to use the g4 next to my dualhead 2k/debian box here as a jukebox. i wanted to be able to play directly from the cd and itunes couldnt do that(then, i dont know about know, i dont use macs much) so i downloaded winamp .71 for mac. it was a little wierd, but it got job done just fine. i could probably still get the installer from that machine if anybody wants it
tofu is made of little baby seals
I meant for ripping and encoding.
See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
This is like saying that school systems that have shitty overall test scores don't need to do anything because it's all the kid's (or parent's) fault.
No, but once again, I do not place the blame on the state. In most cases, the problems are with the children or the parents (which is not to say that there is no such thing as bad teachers, but the teaching profession itself is trying enough to act as a filter for most of these).
There are problems, I will admit. I do not think that the blame lies in lack of funding, simply because both the private schools in the US and the public school systems of many other nations (23, I believe) manage to do better while spending less money. The US public school system spends more per student than any other system in the world, yet it's a complete joke in terms of test scores.
This does not make sense. According to everything we know, it simply should not be; better-funded schools are supposed to be able to do more for their students, and yet clearly this is not happenning. That indicates to me that we don't know enough; that the real problems lie elsewhere. Rather than spinning our wheels by blindly throwing money at the problem when it's not helping, we should be doing more research into what the problems really are.
You act like the U.S. is the only country with genetically obese people. Or that somehow there are more genetically obese people in the U.S.
Quite the opposite. I said that if only genetically-obese people were counted, the US would probably have similar rates as anyone else. That would seem to indicate that I believe genetically-obese people to exist everywhere, would it not?
I do not debate that the US has a depressingly high obesity rate. I place the blame, however, on the individuals, not the country.
This is a cultural thing. An American cultural thing.
No, it is people with no self-control. That isn't culture at all; it's a personal weakness.
I guess that souldn't assume that people actually have a clue about what the speak of. The fact is that if you actually care about the issue one was or another, you would know.
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'"Socialism" is a better term.'
This will be my last post as I don't like to waste time arguing with people who clearly have no idea what they are talking about. I would just like to point out that 'socialism', like 'capitalism' is an economic system. Authoritarianism is at the other end of the scale to libertarianism, not socialism.
It is possible to be 'left wing' and dislike big government, just as a lot of 'right wing' politicians in the US tend to be high taxing and pro big government even though, by your reasoning, they should presumably prefer small government and maximum freedom from government interference for the individual.
Well, that's it. Bye.
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