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Christmas Lighting in Abundance

gral writes "My boss really gets into setting up Christmas lights. He has been interviewed by a couple TV stations, because of his displays. He usually has them setup at his house. This year he has moved to a Church Yard for more space. For 2003, his display sports over 200,000 lights, each string is controlled by computer to light to the tune of a Radio Station playing christmas music. Check out his website at Planet Christmas. Some pictures of this year's display can be seen as well. Have fun and Happy Holidays."

210 comments

  1. Yep by pheared · · Score: 5, Funny

    Further proof that Management is useless.

    1. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      40GB data transfer/month for USD7.95 is not too bad.

    2. Re:Yep by 56ker · · Score: 1

      You'd enjoy Dilbert. Your comment reminds me of the pointy-haired boss.

    3. Re:Yep by LennyDotCom · · Score: 1

      yep

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  2. Gentoo packages for lighting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sorry, forgot this in the writeup, but there are some Gentoo packages out for lighting for your Christmas trees and houses.

    Check out Gentoo.org for more details.

    You may need a 3D card to view demos though.

  3. christmas bonus. by garcia · · Score: 5, Funny

    I highly doubt that you will get anymore money out of him. Your Xmas bonus is going to more lights and your co-workers are going to start calling you Rudolph the Brown-nosed reindeer.

    1. Re:christmas bonus. by ForestGrump · · Score: 5, Funny

      slashdotting his boss' server?
      its negative bonus!
      um, yea. you won't be getting a pay check for the next six months because of the bandwidth fees incurred from YOUR slashdotting.

      -Grump

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  4. Last year... by anaphora · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had a friend who did something like this. He hooked 8000 (yes, eight thousand) lights up and made one continuous string across the entire yard, then set it up as a chaser. It looked REALLY good.

    1. Re:Last year... by MegaHamsterX · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, I imagine it did.....look just like a strip club, was it complete with expensive drinks served in thimble sized glasses and women that look as if they fell from that guys bike that says "If you can read this the bitch fell off"

    2. Re:Last year... by jred · · Score: 2, Funny

      If the girls look like that where you've been going, you've definitely been going to the wrong clubs.

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  5. You're fired! by dapuk · · Score: 5, Funny

    As soon as he finds out that it was you that slashdotted him...

    1. Re:You're fired! by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      Depending on the company's size, maybe his boss need to know that his full name is Scott Carr so he can fire the right guy. :)

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  6. Around me by Politburo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here is the house about 5 minutes from mine which is by far the most decorated house in the area. It is actually some Elvis impersonator, so his display always has an Elvis theme and usually has Elvis music playing. The display requires the police for traffic control, and it's been said that the gentleman has worked out a special agreement with O&R (or maybe PSEG), the local energy company. I haven't been to the house in about 5 years. They say he adds more lights every year, so I have no idea if it still looks like the pictures.

    1. Re:Around me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      awesome

  7. Too much TV by rainer_d · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess, he watched too many episodes of "Home Improvement".

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    1. Re:Too much TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL

  8. Astronomical Event... by jpellino · · Score: 2, Funny

    Planet Christmas knocked out of orbit by asteroid Slashdot122103

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    1. Re:Astronomical Event... by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      .. the asterioid being populated by massive amounts nerds who want to get a look at... lots of christmas lights. :-P That's a bit scary. :-/

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  9. oh dear by RabidStoat · · Score: 1

    the /. effect hits again

  10. Do we really want to engourage this? by Skavookie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do we really want to encourage this sort of behavior? It may be cool and pretty, but not cool and pretty enough for the resources it consumes (both in electricity and also manufacturing, etc). Not to mention less explicit costs like the impact on traffic, wildlife, neighbors, and stargazers.

    1. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by Cokelee · · Score: 1

      I don't know, are you our collective intelligence now? :)

    2. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by Daoenti · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree... What exactly does 200,000 lights have to do with "Christmas" anyway. Call me a grinch, scrooge, (troll, which I know I'm sure I'm getting here), whatever. I fail to see how this type of display really has much to do with the spirit of Christmas.

      And besides, sure this guys display may be nice to look at, as long as you're not the guy that has to live next door to him. Most of us will just look at it and go "Is that really necessary?" Do people really like looking at the house Christmas threw up on?

    3. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by York+the+Mysterious · · Score: 0

      Please oh please spend some petroleum on something better. Maybe a Beowulf cluster

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    4. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by tommy_teardrop · · Score: 1

      You're kidding right? This has everything to do with christmas. A festival of lights to brighten the darkest part of Winter, marking a transition to the new year. It's an ancient right that links us with our forebearers, that has been celebrated over millenia. If this has nothing to do with the spirit of christmas, we truly have succumb to the commerialism that generally overpowers the holiday.

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    5. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by gad_zuki! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The worst part is that these displays are rarely creative, they're just massively extravagant.

      Where is the guy working on a kick-ass animatronic reindeer or someone setting up a fund to buy decent trees or presents for the needy? They don't get the TV time (or slashdot time) these guys get. Any why? Because an almost obsessive-compulsive attempt to string up as many lights as possible is impressive?

      Not to be a grinch, but I would love to see someone try something new like LEDs instead of incandescent lights. Wire them up to a sequencer or a computer and display messages, graphics, etc. Now that would be geek-worthy.

    6. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > It's an ancient right that links us with our
      > forebearers

      That is a custom, maybe even a tradition, not a right.
      You should think a bit before devaluating the meanign of the word 'right'.

      > succumb to the commerialism that generally
      > overpowers the holiday.

      What does the religious meanign of christmas have to do with this at all?

    7. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by Sgt+York · · Score: 5, Informative
      That is a custom, maybe even a tradition, not a right.

      He probably meant "rite", but was confused as to the spelling.

      What does the religious meanign of christmas have to do with this at all?

      As for the religious reference, IIRC it's an old Scot tradition. It was a custom that if a boarding house, hotel, or private home had room for visitors to stay, they would place a candle in the window so travellers would know that they could come in and stay the night.

      When Mary & Joseph went to Bethlehem, there was no place for them to stay because of the census. Everything was full. As a result, Jesus was born in a stable.

      The Scot tradition was that you placed a light in your window, left your doors unlocked, prepared an extra bed and set an extra plate at dinner on Christmas eve. This was to indicate that you welcomed Mary, Joseph, and Jesus into your home (or life). This is an allusion to "letting Christ into your heart", or becoming a Christian.M

      And before yo flame me for all the religious stuff, the author of the parent post DID ask that specifically. Whether you belive the religion or not, that is the significance of it in the Christian faith. Although I doubt most Christians are aware of it.

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    8. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by Dirtside · · Score: 1
      I fail to see how this type of display really has much to do with the spirit of Christmas.
      Don't be dense. You know as well as anyone that lighting displays have been associated with Christmas for more than half a century. This doesn't mean they're a good idea, or a good use of resources (or vice versa), but acting like you don't understand why someone would put up lights as Christmas is just being silly.
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    9. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd flame you for not understanding that my post was aimed at the parrent which did not distinguish between commercial activities that try to take over christmas, and the religious meaning of christmas.

      But thanks for the explanation, it should get a +1 informative :)

    10. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by sjames · · Score: 1

      The lights actually are a carryover from pagan traditions just like the christmas tree. It was a sort of observance that the shortest and darkest day of the year was past and as the days grow longer from there, spring and the warmth of the sun would surely return.

      As for the feast, if you had the resources to have a feast at yule, you had enough to make it to the first harvest, a hopeful sign for sure.

      And besides, sure this guys display may be nice to look at, as long as you're not the guy that has to live next door to him. Most of us will just look at it and go "Is that really necessary?" Do people really like looking at the house Christmas threw up on?

      Apparently, many people DO like to look at them. That's why there's traffic. Around here, at least one radio station arranges a tour of people's christmas lights every year.

    11. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by Daoenti · · Score: 1

      No... I understand fully... but not 200,000 lights. What ever happend to a tasteful candle (light) in the window, or a nice row of lights around the outside of the house. My point is there is by far a difference between tasteful decortaion and just utter nonsense. Taking anything to extremes is usually a very bad thing. I never said anything about "lighting displays", I specifically asked about ones that think they need to use 200,000 plus lights. I do agree that it can be a very beautiful ritual and I love to look at a very tastefully decorated house as much as the next person, this just asults the senses and the extremes that it's been taken to seem to have little to do with Christmas anymore. How many times have you seen neighbors get into pissing contests to see who can out do the other at Christmas lights, that's when I start to fail to see the point.

    12. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      Yet you post this from a device that has dozens of semiconductors made using some of the most toxic manufacturing processes know to man.

      Please improve your own life before you preach to others.

    13. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by chickenrob · · Score: 1

      The pastor at my Church did a sermon today about christmas lights. Martin Luther was struck one evening walking outside how the light from the stars shone through a tree on the ground. He was so spiritually moved he tried to recreate the effect in his home by tying a candle to his tree. Being a bit obsessive, he tried to make it better by placeing MORE candles on the tree. He thought it was so cool he placed his tree in the window of his house and people all copied him Some other Christmas ties to light are the direction, growth as well as illumination of both good and bad. If you are a Christian you will know what I'm talking about.

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    14. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is an allusion to "letting Christ into your heart", or becoming a Christian.

      You probably meant "illusion", but were deluded as to the farce.

    15. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by Dirtside · · Score: 1

      At precisely what point does a display pass from "tasteful decoration" to "utter nonsense"? 100 lights? 200? 500? A thousand? Two thousand? Five? Ten? Twenty? Fifty? A hundred thousand? Does it depend on the size of the building being decorated? The number of different colors used? The point at which it changes from one to the other is entirely arbitrary and subjective.

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    16. Re:Do we really want to engourage this? by djneko · · Score: 1

      Here's a Couple Geeks setting up a fund to buy presents for the Childrens Hospital of Seattle.

      Last count over $130k donated by gamers around the world.

      We're not just maniacs with guns anymore. Now we're maniacs with guns, and heart.

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  11. What a waste of power by Genghis9 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And time.

    1. Re:What a waste of power by skinfitz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...and money. If he want's to throw away money he should give it to a charity.

    2. Re:What a waste of power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just dig up a National Park or Invade a country to get the required oil .. Merry X-Mas.

    3. Re:What a waste of power by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1
      What a waste of power and time.
      Says the guy while posting on /.
    4. Re:What a waste of power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That's not throwing away money. That's buying a product made by a company. The money goes from the company to raw materials businesses, labor, office workers, owners of the company and the gov't, who all, in turn, spend that money on other businesses.

      If the people who spent their money on Christmas lights would not have otherwise spent that money on anything else, it would have actually hurt the economy.

    5. Re:What a waste of power by ziggles · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm always surprised when nerd types (which I assume you are if you're posting on Slashdot) have this attitude about anything, since nerds are usually the biggest "waste"rs of time and power.

      Most hobbies consume time and energy without producing anything useful. The point of a hobby is not the end result, but the amount of work and love that was put into it. If the guy loves decorating his house, who are you to say it's a waste of time?

    6. Re:What a waste of power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      . . . and optic nerves.

    7. Re:What a waste of power by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Genghis9> What a waste of power
      Genghis9> And time.
      skinfitz> ...and money. If he want's to throw away
      skinfitz> money he should give it to a charity.

      I suppose the FAQ could've been better written on the monetary point, but if I'm reading it correctly he's expecting the electic bill for the display to be about $156 [1]. Not per day, not per week -- $156 total. This is not a lot of money, nor an outrageous amount of power. An interesting point in the FAQ is that the lights are never all on at the same time, so it's not as extravagent (at least not power-wise :-) as it might appear at first glance.

      Waste of time? The guy does it because he likes doing it. Some folks spend their free time rebuilding old cars, or tinkering with homebrew computer rigs, or smacking around a golfball. Any hobby probably looks like a waste of time to those who aren't interested in it, but if you're having fun doing something then it's not wasted time.

      The "shoulda given the money to charity" point is a slippery slope. The PlayStation in Little Timmy's stocking costs a pretty penny -- should he get his toy when there's starving people in the world? That's a moral question, and different people will have different answers -- and I for one couldn't say which answer it "right". (And just so I don't sound too terribly pompous, I know that I'd keep the PlayStation. :-)

      But isn't there something to be said for giving to your community? By all reports, a whole lot of people come by to see the display. It might not be your cup of tea, but there's many in his area who truly enjoy what he does.

      [1] Total based on the 2003 portion of the FAQ that estimates the cost will increase by $100, combined with the 2002 portion of the FAQ where he estimated the bill at $56.

      BTW, Google cache of the PlanetChristmas FAQ, since the original page is Slashdotted right now.

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    8. Re:What a waste of power by thentil · · Score: 1

      ...and money. If he want's to throw away money he should give it to a charity.

      I know you're trolling, but if he wants to throw away his money, then he can do it however he wants. Just because you don't want to put up 100k lights for Christmas, doesn't mean no one else can. Obviously, he gets a lot of enjoyment out of doing this - and so do other people, including lots of kids (think of the children!) who drive or walk by the place. I think it's pretty cool that by spending a chunk of money, he brings a smile to so many faces. Perhaps instead of being grumpy about someone bringing Christmas cheer to his neighborhood, you should start a crusade for public transit -- then everyone can donate the money they spend on cars to charity!

    9. Re:What a waste of power by Dirtside · · Score: 3, Funny
      If he want's to throw away money he should give it to a charity.
      Preferably a charity dedicated to teaching people how to correctly use the apostrophe.
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    10. Re:What a waste of power by skinfitz · · Score: 1

      Preferably a charity dedicated to teaching people how to correctly use the apostrophe.

      Actually I was thinking more along the lines of a charity for anal people.

    11. Re:What a waste of power by FroMan · · Score: 1

      Here's the deal. You make money, you spend it how you want.

      If he wants to throw away his money on lights, energy, and entertainment, so be it. Consider that someone needs to work the Christmas light making plants and power facilities to create and power those lights. It seems to me by spending his money he is allowing others to work to make those products, which is far better than simpley handing out money to someone holding a sign saying, "Poor, need money."

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    12. Re:What a waste of power by skinfitz · · Score: 1

      I know you're trolling

      Please define "trolling" in this context please.

    13. Re:What a waste of power by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

      Actually, he's giving to a charity just like the rest of us who have jobs.

      Every paycheck, the government takes a percentage of your hard earned money and gives it to people who are too disinclined to go out and get jobs of their own and conribute to society.

      Yes a percentage of our money does go to help truely needy people. However, there are plenty of people who do not deserve the money and are just here for the free ride.

      If this guy wants to spend his own money putting up and lighting christmas lights, then let him have his fun.

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  12. Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone pick up some of those LED strands? Ugh. The flickering. They don't convert the power from AC to DC, so naturally the LEDs being one-way things flicker at 60hz (maybe its 30 at that point? I dunno).

    Anyone know of someone that sells a solution to this? I'm thinking a few capacitors and a few diodes would do it?

    1. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Submarine batteries, man, submarine batteries.

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    2. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by mugnyte · · Score: 1

      No, don't do it man! Think of the poor submarines! "Stranded!"

    3. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by Pharmboy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Anyone pick up some of those LED strands? Ugh. The flickering. They don't convert the power from AC to DC, so naturally the LEDs being one-way things flicker at 60hz (maybe its 30 at that point? I dunno).

      Anyone know of someone that sells a solution to this? I'm thinking a few capacitors and a few diodes would do it?


      60Hz (50Hz in Europe and some other places). But the nature of LEDs would mean they flicker would not be as bad as it would seem (they dim down slower than they ignite). Traditional fluorescent lights flicker at 60Hz too (not new starterless ones, the ballasts operate at 25kHz to 110kHz).

      I have used LEDs to turn a pot plant into a Xmas tree (it was the 80s, what can I say) and simply used a wall wart style transformer(12vdc). You don't need capacitors to turn AC into DC, although it will be smoother electricity (less ripple). Not needed for just lighting LEDs, since they simply consume and burn the electricity.

      All you need is 4 diodes to turn AC into DC. Go google "bridge rectifier" and I am sure you can find plans. It is very very easy to make. The typical basic rectifier has 4 diodes and 2 capacitors (optional). But its still easier to buy a universal transformer/rectifier for small loads. For medium to large loads (3 to 30 amps) you may try a car battery instead. Another option is a regulated power supply, basically a poor man's Variac. Those are under $50 for up to 8 amps or more.

      There are some other methods as well, such as using a power inverter that works at a higher frequency (LEDs don't care what Hz you use, just the direction of the current flow). Any Hz over 85 is going to appear flicker free. You might have trouble finding an inverter that works at these higher Hz.

      Another possible but ludicrous option is to get a surplus military generator. Most of these have dual taps, 60Hz for basic power, and 400Hz for aircraft recharging. The 400Hz side will work nicely for powering LEDs. These can be purchased at auction for a couple grand or less. They run on anything remotely "fuel oil", even corn oil.

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    4. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by ecarlson · · Score: 1

      Yes, it would still be 60 Hz, even though you chop off half of the sine wave, but it would be dark for half of the 60.hz cycle, since an LED only lights in one direction (unless you have bi-directional LED's, which contain two LED chips in one package, wired in opposite directions). As you said, a bridge rectifier would keep the sine wave voltage "humps" going in one direction, and would prevent the LED's from being dark for half of the cycle.

      The only thing I disagree with is that LED's do not turn off more slowly than they turn on (at least not that a human would notice). LED's are solid-state devices, and turn on and off virtually instantaneously.

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    5. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by tetranz · · Score: 1

      An interesting thing I've found is that some people see 50 or 60 Hz flicker quite easily and some don't. If I move my head or eyes quickly, an AC powered led easily becomes a dashed line, especially in the dark. In wierd moments I've tried to explain this to a few people and most have no clue what I'm talking about. I also have the ability to spin my eyes quickly which creates dashed circles 8-).

      Its similar with vertical refresh rates on CRT screens. I often see people using screens with dreadful flicker and ask them how they can work with it and most don't know what I'm talking about. Its usually a quick setting to increase the rate.

    6. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      Ironically, the easiest way to "see" 60Hz flicker is to not look directly at it. Look at a monitor set to 60hz, then look 2 foot away, but pay attention through the corner of your eye, you notice the flicker dramatically more. I am not sure what the physics is behind this, but it is noticable for anything that flickers, like old style fluorescent lights, etc.

      I find I have trouble with monitors set as high as 72 or 75Hz. I can tell the difference between 85 and 100. I DONT "see" the difference, btw, I feel it. Then again, I sit in front of a computer for many hours a day.

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    7. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by alienw · · Score: 2, Informative

      You want 4 diodes and a small capacitor. Otherwise the LEDs will still flicker, at 120 Hz. I'm not sure why they don't just put these parts into the strand, because they can't cost more than 35-40 cents in quantity.

    8. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      ""You want 4 diodes and a small capacitor. Otherwise the LEDs will still flicker, at 120 Hz. I'm not sure why they don't just put these parts into the strand, because they can't cost more than 35-40 cents in quantity.""

      I have given your statement alot of thought, and have no earthly idea where you think it will flicker at 120Hz. Seriously, if you know something I don't (entirely possible) please enlighten me. While I am not an electrical engineer, you could say I dabble.

      The capacitors do not elliminate ripple, but they assist a little. They may take the voltage fluxuation of 12 to 0 volts (60 times a second), and reduce the flux to 12-6v perhaps (still at 60 x per second), but only a battery will produce a pure 12VDC path with no wave characteristics.

      As to 120Hz, no capacitor or diode by itself can change the inversion rate of electricity. The 60Hz rating is for the full wave, NOT just the up portion (peak). IE: 1Hz = (1 peak + 1 trough). So if you use a rectifier to essentially filter out the lower have of the sine wave, you still get 60 peaks per second, NOT 120. What you get is 60 peaks, with 60 zero volt null waves inbetween where the troughs (now filtered out) used to be, per second.

      Lame attempt at graphic:

      0=_ \__/\__/\__ now, instead of

      0=__ \ /\ /
      \/ \/

      But again, still at 60Hz, since you have only turned -12V into 0V.

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    9. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by crucini · · Score: 1

      You're thinking of a half-wave rectifier - just one diode in series. A full-wave rectifier will output 0=__/\/\/\.
      Given a 60hz input, there will be 120 peaks per second at the output. In other words, the output has a DC offset, a strong 120hz wave, and some harmonics.

    10. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by Pharmboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You're thinking of a half-wave rectifier - just one diode in series. A full-wave rectifier will output 0=__/\/\/\.
      Given a 60hz input, there will be 120 peaks per second at the output. In other words, the output has a DC offset, a strong 120hz wave, and some harmonics.


      I am more adept at 220vac choke and high frequency plasma systems (100kHz+ neon and fluorescent), my strengths are not DC ;) I had thought a standard bridge rectifier was only half wave, but I see your point. I am not sure how the trough is inverted (my ignorance and need to google). Thanks. Assuming you are correct (a safe assumption) then now we are left with a 120Hz wave, so we address the grandparents consern of a 120hz flicker in the LEDs:

      If there is a 120Hz flicker, you won't know it, since you can't really detect anything that fast.

      On another note, I did work on a successful project to continuously ignite 2400 watts of fluorescent lamps using less than 120v/15a and developing it into a commercial product. Ask me about the natural resonance of mercury (253.7nm) and its relationship to high frequency vs. high energy and I might be more in my element ;)

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    11. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by alienw · · Score: 1

      First, let's get our rectifiers straight:

      - Half-wave rectifier
      That's basically a regular diode. That's why your LEDs flicker at 60Hz.
      Original waveform: (60Hz)
      __/^\ /^\ __
      \_/ \_/
      Rectified waveform: (still 60hz, but with the bottom peak sliced off)
      __/^\__/^\__

      - full wave rectifier
      This is the 4-diode version. You would get flicker at 120 Hz, because it makes the lower trough positive. Basically like graphing the absolute value of a sine function.
      Original waveform: (60Hz)
      __/^\ /^\ __
      \_/ \_/
      Rectified waveform: (120Hz)
      __/^\/^\/^\/^\__
      As you can see, the rectified current doesn't change polarity, but it's still not DC. It's AC at 120Hz.

      What a capacitor does is even out the peaks and troughs. With a big enough capacitor (and perhaps other filtering elements), you can make the ripple be practically non-existent.
      It would look like this:
      __|^^^^^^^^^^^|_
      and the flickering would be practically unnoticeable (because the LED would never be completely off).

    12. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by jrumney · · Score: 2, Informative
      The capacitors do not elliminate ripple, but they assist a little. They may take the voltage fluxuation of 12 to 0 volts (60 times a second), and reduce the flux to 12-6v perhaps (still at 60 x per second), but only a battery will produce a pure 12VDC path with no wave characteristics.

      LED's are diodes. That means that the voltage drop across them is fixed. If you have enough capacitance to keep the minimum voltage above that voltage (usually about 2V for red LEDs, 3.5 for blue with green in between) then the LED will remain on. An LED that is getting brighter and dimmer at 60 (or 120)Hz is going to be a lot less noticable than an LED that is switching off and on.

    13. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      LED's are diodes. That means...

      I know, thanks anyway. My point was it is often not practical to have enough capacitance to get the wave as clean as a pure DC source, such as a battery. Even when you do, the wave is not perfectly flat, since there is still the reaction time of the capacitor to consider. In this application, I said it was optional, and not likely needed. This was based on my experience with using capacitors in 240VAC, car stereo and other applications.

      Sorry if it wasn't clear enough on that point.

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    14. Re:Speaking of Christmas Lights (OT) by Wiwi+Jumbo · · Score: 1

      Another niffty thing you can do is brush your teeth with a electric toothbrush... the vibrations travel up your skull into your eyes.. I glanced at my monitor from across my apartment and I thought the thing was about to burn out... :-)

      --
      Wiwi
      "I trust in my abilities,
      but I want more then they offer"
  13. Re:TERROR ALERT LEVEL RAISED! by Pharmboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    They've just raised the national terror alert level to ORANGE. YES, ORANGE! Orange means high, by the way, or 4 out of 5 on the chart.

    This is due to two factors:

    1, they suspect that terrorists are collecting funds by standing in front of Walmarts with a red kettle, and ringing bells.

    2, They discovered 12 Saudis that were taking leasons on how to fly sleighs and getting instruction on basic deer husbandry.

    The Dept. of Homeland Defense requests that anyone spotting any flying sleighs that are being led by deer like animals assume it is a Saudi terrorist. Initial indications are they plan to attack on the eve of birth of Christ, as a religious statement against the "infidels". If they try to land on your roof, you should take necessary defensive action. Deadly force is authorized.

    We now return you to our regularly scheduled nonsense, already in progress...

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  14. He must buy all new lights every year by smartin · · Score: 1

    I can't imagine wrestling with that many strings of lights trying to find the loose bulbs and replacing the dead ones until they light. I only put up a handful of strings each year but by the end of the the exersise i'm ready to hunt down and kill the bastards that figured it was a good idea to wire christmas lights in series.

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    1. Re:He must buy all new lights every year by balloonpup · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wow, you have either really old light sets or really cheap ones. Every string I've bought in the last 5 years or so was in parallel. You may want to consider an upgrade. It's only about $5 a string...

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    2. Re:He must buy all new lights every year by smartin · · Score: 1

      Try pulling a bulb and see if it still works (small lights not big ones)

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    3. Re:He must buy all new lights every year by balloonpup · · Score: 1

      Yep, they still work. Bought them at Ames before they went under.

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      I sing the doggie electric!
  15. You hate your boss don't you ? by aepervius · · Score: 1

    I mean such a cruelty, slashdot his "christmas" web site just a few day before christmas...

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  16. Heh by lrt512 · · Score: 5, Funny

    He didn't happen to test those out on August 14th this year, hmm?

  17. Re:Whew, everything IS OKAY by UziBeatle · · Score: 0

    Uhoh, Sorry to reply to my own post but during my posting procedure the page has slowly begun to load a few pictures. 10 minutes has passed. This is intolerable. You people get to work. CODE ORANGE back in effect until this problem is corrected.

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  18. a rather shameless way by fuck_this_shit · · Score: 1

    to get a bigger christmas gratification out of your boss

  19. A story of economic progress by DeepRedux · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Virginia Postrel has an article about the booming business of professional Christmas lighting installation. One franchise company installs lights for 300,000 customers each year. The business grew through the recession. Most customers earn over $400K.

    As a source of mass employment, we have moved from agriculture, to manufacturing, and now into aesthetics. It is not that agriculture has disappeared from the US, but it is down to about 3% of the economy.

    1. Re:A story of economic progress by Lysol · · Score: 1

      This is a good point. I was talking to my friend the other day who does a lot of heavy consulting for the govt. biotech industry and I asked him something similar: If we've lost past manufaturing jobs to China, automotive jobs to Japan, and now, a lot of programming/IT jobs to India, what is the U.S. to do for now and the future to keep our 'edge' and people employed?

      His response (shortened): We need to focus in invention, innovation, and entertainment. The first two make sense. But entertainment wasn't really one of my first choices. However, after thinking about how huge the entertainment industry is - think of the various bills brought before congress in the recent years regarding DRM, etc... - and the sports industry as well, it makes sense.

    2. Re:A story of economic progress by Nessak · · Score: 1

      Agriculture may employee less then %3 of the workforce but it accounts for a hell of a lot more then that in output. (How much dose the government spend in farm subsidies?) We [ADM] grow more food now then ever before.

      The pro lighting story is interesting (CNN is playing the story in rotation) but I hardly think that aesthetics are going to be the next "Big industry". There has always been cottage industries performing limited-use services for the very rich. These people probably have a skilled craftsmen working on one part of the house or another on a weekly basis...

    3. Re:A story of economic progress by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I'd say that the amount of money in agriculture just might be the same, but productivity gains have allowed people to branch out, in short, nearly everything else grew faster than ag.

      I'm really not sure if agriculture will be "farmed" out to other countries totally either. I don't think perishable supplies can be cheaply transported either, you'll probably always have milk and egg production near where it is needed simply because the substitutes are unacceptable to too many poeple.

    4. Re:A story of economic progress by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm.. I happen to be Dutch, and the Netherlands is in the world top 3 exporters of agricultural products, despite it being an insignificantly small country, and only 4% of the population works in agriculture..

      WHat is the point of mentioning this?
      First of all, there is a lot of growth possible in agriculture, and lots of productivity gains (really, look at the produyction per square mile and per head of the population for both the USA and the Netherlands, a lot of improvement is possible still)

      it is also not true that things like eggs and milk and such have to be produced locally. If I can buy fresh fish that has been treansported from the other side of the world, and can buy fresh diary products from the Netherlands on the other side of the world, I don't see how this could be true at all.

    5. Re:A story of economic progress by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 1

      in short, nearly everything else grew faster than ag.

      Not really. Agriculture benefits from economies of scale, and improvements in technology have made growing, harvesting and distributing more efficient and profitable. Consequently, less people are required to farm the same amount of land, which frees up people to work in other industries.

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  20. Sound-activated? by KC7GR · · Score: 1

    "For 2003, his display sports over 200,000 lights, each string is controlled by computer to light to the tune of a Radio Station playing christmas music..."

    So what happens when you stop feeding in traditional Christmas stuff and pipe something like Bob Rivers 'Twisted Christmas' into it?

    I wonder if it would act anything like a Teddy Ruxpin with a 'Metallica' tape (appropriately encoded on the animation data track, of course) installed?

    --

    Bruce Lane, KC7GR,

    Blue Feather Technologies

  21. Slashdotted by Staos · · Score: 0

    200,000 Xmas lights: $1000 500 KW of electricity: $4500 Slashdotting your bosses webserver because he gave you a shitty Xmas bonus: Priceless Mastercard: Hey! At least we're not AMEX! Right? Right?

    --
    In Soviet russia, only old Koreans profit from pictures of Natalie Portman stored on Beowulf Clusters.
  22. The twelve pains of Christmas by pergamon · · Score: 2, Funny
    One light goes out, THEY ALL GO OUT!

    --Bob Rivers Comedy Group
  23. What happens during commercials? by pilot1 · · Score: 1

    They light to to songs playing on a radio station? Do they light to the commercials too?

    1. Re:What happens during commercials? by WeblionX · · Score: 1

      I'm assuming it's basically a visualization, which would mean they would light to the commercials too.

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  24. I get it by soccerisgod · · Score: 2, Funny

    So that's why they need to build that fusion reactor.

    --
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  25. 200,000 lights??? by Stonent1 · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re:200,000 lights??? by ctucker · · Score: 1

      In related news... 1/3 of San Francisco without power

      And the power went out just 20 minutes before the end of Return of the King.
      Now I'll never know how it ends!

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      --
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  26. Waste of power? by $exyNerdie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Holidays are meant to be enjoyed and celebrated and normal use of lighting etc. is part of the process.

    But 200,000 lights ?? Well, If they are LED's it's okay. I didn't STFS (see the freaking site)because it is slashdotted already but if they are not LED's it is a little waste of power.

    The precious energy that humankind dearly needs sometimes goes waste. Wars have been fought over it and thousands of people wait in lines for fuel/gas etc. So while some might be just burning away that energy in 200,000 lights, others are starved of that energy!

    Pl excuse the typos, grmmer etc, typed it in haste, gotta go shoppin'

    1. Re:Waste of power? by Zebbers · · Score: 1

      complain about waste of energy and resources and you gotta go shoppin'

    2. Re:Waste of power? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. I had to go to the grocery store to shop me some food. I try not to stay hungry all day and I was because there was no food left home....

  27. Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone know how many GFLOPS Christmas lights can perform and are there libraries than can utilize them for general propose processing.

  28. Re:It's "Merry Christmas", bub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God bless you merry gentleman.

    'Tis Merry Christmas and not this homogenized, politically correct pap.

    Of course most of the Slashdot crowd are no longer Christians because they've embraced Wicca.

    I bring you tidings of comfort and joy.

  29. Repercussions by bezuwork's+friend · · Score: 3, Informative
    Well, the National Ornament and Electric Light Christmas Association, Inc. should be proud (yes, there is such an organization).

    Personally, I don't decorate for Christmas or other holidays - it seems too commercial for me. But I enjoy driving around with my family to see what others do.

    However, being somewhat of a geek and in lawschool, I had to search to see if any people like the good boss here were ever sued for being a Public Nusiance. I came up with the following:

    Osborne v. Power (Ark, 1994) - guy ordered to reduce his amount of lights so as to not attract the large numbers of sightseers coming to the neighborhood.

    Rodrigue v. Copeland (La., 1985) - from the case: "Defendant is enjoined from erecting and operating a Christmas exhibition which is calculated to and does attract an unusually large number of visitors to the neighborhood." The court also spent some time arguing that this limitation did not infringe his rights of free speech.

    Klein v. Copeland (La., 1986) - followup suit from the previous - the guy apparently didn't comply.

    1. Re:Repercussions by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      That Osborne guy is a real character here in Little Rock, Arkansas. He has a light show 365 days a year. His house is prominently located on a very busy street called Cantrell Rd. Right now, he has a gigantic american flag in full red, white and blue, with 50 stars on it, and at the top, it says "GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GEORGE W.". On his daughter's lawn, next door, there is another american flag with an eagle on top. The lights on the wings alternate off and on so it looks like the eagle is flapping it's wings.

      As I recall, a few years ago, there were so many accidents out in front of his house from people rubbernecking as they drove by that the city sued him and he had to take all the Christmas lights down. They let him leave the american flags up though; they weren't as distracting.

      I guess the guy is really wealthy. He invented Tylenol #3 or some other such pharmeceutical.

      Personally, I think he's a redneck that got too much money and doesn't know how to spend it other than putting up a godawful display of wealth and tacky extravagance. It's like he's the king of the trailer park and everyone else should just bask in his christmas light glory... sheesh.

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    2. Re:Repercussions by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Hahaha...yeah, always loved driving by there. Was funny that his two neighbors were complaining about the lights and traffic...so, he bought both their houses...and started putting up lights on them and their yards....

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  30. I bet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... the boss aint gonna be too happy that his light's control machine just got slashdotted.

  31. nice plan by nsebban · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have to admit that posting your boss' website on the slashdot homepage is an easy revenge for whatever he did to you...You must be LOL, seeing his webserver melting down :)

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  32. mysterious won eyed girl may not be real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nothing personal?

    the lights are beginning to shine where they rarely/never have before?

  33. My boss does this too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He was recently on the Japanese equivalent of Good Morning America.

    He also sells the hardware and software used to control the lights. His website is Light-O-Rama. The major competition is Animated Lighting. The (currently slashdotted) chat rooms at Planet Christmas are your best bet for deciding which solution is your best bet.

  34. Ooogh....I think I'm gonna get sick ... by DoraLives · · Score: 1

    Blarrrrghhhpf, splash!

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    Is it fascism yet?
  35. Geek Lights by t_allardyce · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ok how about a string of lights where each was individually controllable - each socket contained a simple switch that would look on a serial data bus for its individual code and switch its light on or off accordingly. To set it up you would drape the lights around randomly and then point a camera at the tree/house/bush etc. A computer would use the camera to calibrate by switching each light one by one and noting the position on the camera until it built up a rough pattern of light positions (this would take anything from seconds to minutes depending). Then you could use the lights as a crude dot-matrix display. The light detection routine wouldn't be that hard to do, and you could even have the lights pulse at a certain frequency to make detection easier for the computer. A step further would be to place the camera more than once to build up a 3D model of light positions. I think there are already mass produced components that can respond when they detect their code on a serial interface, imagine the possibilities given enough lights and cheap production?

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    1. Re:Geek Lights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do I smell a patent here?

      Oh yeah, you can speed up the detection significantly by using a binary algorithm and only need Log2(N) photos. First light every other one, then light them alternately on/off in groups of twos, then fours, eights...

    2. Re:Geek Lights by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      Do I smell a patent here?

      Slashdot counts as prior art right?

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  36. Are You Trying to Get Fired?! by dupper · · Score: 1

    You Slashdotted your boss' website!

  37. Save our environment plz! by fluor2 · · Score: 1

    PLEASE, stop this. When your boss is using all this power, don't forget that he's using from the resources that's probably non-renewable. Even nuclear power is considered non-renewable!

    We all (EVERYBODY) own the resources at our planet, so even my thoughts should be considered highly when I set my foot down and scream this out to you "YOU F**KIN' LOOSERS USING THE POWER ON SUCH A LAME THING!"

    1. Re:Save our environment plz! by p51d007 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just like the power wasted by your computer surfing the internet ;)

    2. Re:Save our environment plz! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The sooner we burn off all oil and gas reserves with frivolous lighting and waste heat, the sooner we all have to convert to wind, solar, biomass and conservation sources. I'm sick of sending money overseas.

      Light up I say. And flame away.

    3. Re:Save our environment plz! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come on! $5 says that you drive a car. Even if you don't, almost EVERYONE else DOES. The amount of resources XMas lights consume PALES in comparison to the amount of resources cars consume. So go pound pavement, and work to get everyone OUT of their cars and INTO mass transit, bikes, or some other form of transit other than SUVs. If you want to get mad about something, at least choose something that is worthwhile!

    4. Re:Save our environment plz! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      People have been celebrating the winter solstice with fires and candles for thousands of years and I'm sure some old curmudgeon in a cold cave also complained about the waste of camel dung in the fire...

      Stop complaining - get a life!

    5. Re:Save our environment plz! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If this were anything else besides a Christian holiday, like someone playing tetris with lights on the side of a building, you'd be all like "OMG THAT'S SO FUCKING COOL!"

      Pound sand, asshole.

    6. Re:Save our environment plz! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...says the AC, his computer humming away...

    7. Re:Save our environment plz! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a guy in a santa suit on a bamboo bicycle powering a string of led's eating soy beans for fuel . Now thats a christmas lsashdot story I'd like to see.

    8. Re:Save our environment plz! by westendgirl · · Score: 1

      Being the nerd that I am, I actually had to Google to see if anyone had done that. I ended up being pointed to an April 2000 Slashdot thread.

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  38. Disrespectful by Squashee · · Score: 1

    I can't belive that you consider this to be cool when we live in a world where global warming is a clear and present danger and conservation of energy and resources is essential.

    This is just a display of total disrespect of the ecology and environment. Only in America.

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    1. Re:Disrespectful by ZorinLynx · · Score: 1

      The enviro-hippies have gotten to you.

      Jeez, who cares. It's his money to spend. If he wants to put 200kW of heating elements in his yard so people admire the pretty red glow, that's his perogative; he's the one paying for the power.

      I'm so tired of all this "reduce reuse recycle" propoganda crap. Get over it, people, as long as we drive cars and use our computers we're being hypocrites anyway. If you want to live in the stone age, be my guest but stop dictating what others can and cannot do.

      -Z

    2. Re:Disrespectful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Jeez, who cares. It's his money to spend.

      And it is OUR planet he wastes.

      > I'm so tired of all this "reduce reuse recycle"
      > propoganda crap. Get over it, people, as long as
      > we drive cars and use our computers we're being
      > hypocrites anyway.

      I do not drive or own a car. I use a computer that does a good job at keeping its power use down.. I actually use candles for lighting often (saves electricity, but esp. it gives such a nice light)

      > If you want to live in the stone age, be my
      > guest but stop dictating what others can and
      > cannot do.

      As long as others waste the planet I live on, and as such dictate my life codnitions, I have every right to dictate them to stop behaving like the non-social idiots they are. If you want to include yourself in that group, go ahead.
      You do not have to live to stoneage standards to be carefull with energy consumption, all you have to do is stop wasting it.

    3. Re:Disrespectful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hmm, maybe your PC should be reposessed, to save power.

      Did you notice all the solar flares lately?

      The sun is where our heat comes from. Whatever we do on the planet surface is quite inconsequential - or do you believe that dinosaur farts caused the earth to warm up millions of years ago???

  39. Tip of the day? by whereiswaldo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    each string is controlled by computer to light to the tune of a Radio Station playing christmas music

    Does it come with a tip of the day, too?

    <tip>Christ was born on Christmas day. That's why we have Christmas; not because Wal-Mart wants to sell you something.</tip>

    Merry Christmas to all. If you don't celebrate Christmas, then "happy holidays" to you. But let's not water down the real reason for Christmas with our Ho Ho Ho's and lack of mention of Christ our Saviour.

    1. Re:Tip of the day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Christ was born on some other day, but the wise and venerable from the early christian church decided it would be better to celebrate it over a pagan holiday, so they stole a very popular one, and in doing so smeared out the true meaning of christmas.

      <tip>If you subvert a holiday, don't get upset when it returns to it's true meaning: a celebration to bring joy in dark times, a feast, and the exchanging of gifts</tip>

      Merry Christmas to all. If you don't celebrate Christmas, then "happy holidays" to you. But let's not water down the real reason for Christmas with our continual mentioning of Christ our Saviour.

    2. Re:Tip of the day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (1) It's not really clear that Jesus existed. Hence, it's not really clear that he was born.

      (2) Assuming that he was born, he almost certainly was not born on Christmas day. It's well-established that the date was chosen in order to co-opt the solstice holidays of various pagans, in order to make them more open to the prospects of conversion.

    3. Re:Tip of the day? by Refrag · · Score: 1

      The christ wasn't born on Christmas. Christians simply wanted to userp the existing pagan holiday of the people they were trying to convert.

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    4. Re:Tip of the day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart.... Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes." (Mindscape, 1995)

    5. Re:Tip of the day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm curious what this "very popular" pagan holiday was called and was in celebration of?
      Surely without Christ, there would be no Christmas.

    6. Re:Tip of the day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well if you don't provide the name of the holiday or soemthing to back up your claim, I'm going to have to call Bullshit.!

    7. Re:Tip of the day? by Refrag · · Score: 1

      Winter's Solstice

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  40. Re:It's "Merry Christmas", bub by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1
    Have a

    Sexy Christmas

    Fun Christmas

    White Christmas

    Lovely Christmas

    Social Christmas

    Entertaining Christmas

    Happy Holidays!

    From the Organisation Against Wannabe Dictators On Internet.

  41. *** P O P *** by tomasito · · Score: 1

    I can imagine all 200,000 lights burning out simultaneously as his server strains under the sudden slashdot load!

  42. Image mirror? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://imageshack.us/files/DSCF0123.jpg

  43. Longwood Gardens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Each year Longwood Gardens has a kick-ass light display. They have pictures here and here. There main gig is flowers and such, and it is well worth the trip to Eastern Pennsylvania from anywhere. While you're in the area, stop by the Brandywine River Museum.

  44. this guy has some massive lighting going on... by mnemon1c · · Score: 1

    I have seen them when they were at their height. Over 3 million lights: www.jenningsosbornefamily.com

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  45. White Christmas lights are an abomination! by anwyn · · Score: 2, Funny

    They are a presumptuous affectation of those who style themselves too sophisticated to make a strong primal statement using color. Children, who's tastes are uncorrupted, prefer colored Christmas lights.

    Religion is a red herring. The Christmas star was said to be a single star in the sky, not a thousand stars in the shrubbery. The Christmas tree is a pagan custom from Germany, and there are no evergreens in the mid-East!

    The problem of white Christmas Lights originated when the producers of movies and television discovered that colored lights are difficult and expensive to photograph. (Lights are the brightest thing in the picture and tend to be overexposed. When colored lights are overexposed they turn into a washed out white. When white lights are overexposed they just look white.) This caused white lights to be used in movies and television because of expense considerations.

    Then the "people" especially the people who wanted to style themselves sophisticated, began to decorate their houses with white lights! They were slavishly following what they saw in movies and television unknowing that those media were motivated by expense considerations!

    Well, sophisticates, I have this to tell you: Your white lights are ugly and you are a bunch of low taste idiots!

    1. Re:White Christmas lights are an abomination! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The problem of white Christmas Lights originated
      > when the producers of movies and television
      > discovered that colored lights are difficult and
      > expensive to photograph.

      You obviously never saw a christmas tree with real candles..
      Also, it obviously never occured to you that real candles give white light.

      Go back to your hole and try another few milion years of evolution, your brain obviously needs soem development still.

    2. Re:White Christmas lights are an abomination! by djneko · · Score: 1

      I thought they were just used because they looked like stylized snow-covered houses.

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  46. Re:TERROR ALERT LEVEL RAISED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    They discovered 12 Saudis that were taking leasons on how to fly sleighs and getting instruction on basic deer husbandry

    The flight lessons I can imagine, but come on! Since when do Arabs need lessons on fucking deer?

  47. What a waste by L0gan1 · · Score: 1

    OK so the Power companies in California and other states don't want you to waste power. This was reinforced so much I recall seeing messages about it for seti@home a few years ago. Now it's Christmas and lights can be had for about .95 cents a metric ton!!! everyone has them and inflatable Santa's and such. Now I like the spirit of Christmas just as much as the next guy but give me a break!

  48. MOD PARENT -1 TROLL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... ridiculous. How did it get insightful?

  49. That's the last straw! by Zebaulon · · Score: 2, Funny

    What kind of establishment is Slashdot, anyway? They seem to have a persistent track record of linking to stories on sites that are down.

  50. Only In America by Tim+Ward · · Score: 3, Funny

    They just don't get it, do they?

  51. Re:It's "Merry Christmas", bub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This
    Here
    Excrement

    In
    No
    Terms
    Explains
    Really
    Nerdy
    Evil
    Tw ats

    It's called lowercase, jilldonkey.

  52. Cable managment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone want to make a small fortune over Christmas?

    Set up a store selling cable managment products near this guy's house...

  53. Wouldn't a donation be better? by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

    Than this giant waste of money on equipment and power?

    1. Re:Wouldn't a donation be better? by anteater424 · · Score: 1

      Indeed. But it would be a private act - the exact opposite of stringing up tasteless Xmas lights and publicising the fact on a website. This sort of behaviour serves a similar function to a tatoo. You know what kind of person you a dealing with without the having to speak to them.

  54. One word: by KalvinB · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    whine.

    Maybe you should take your bitching to the city council so they'll consider outlawing having a bit of fun during the holidays.

    It's 1984: Do you know where your rights are? They've been confiscated by bitching nerds and will be returned to you as soon as they deem it convienent for themselves.

    Where's the -1 Pathetic button?

    Ben

  55. Christmas lights are Pagan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The so called Christmas lights are not a Christian tradition at all. It harks back to Hanukkah and other Pagan festivals of the winter solstice - all of which was outlawed by King Constantin of Rome at Nicea, when he defined the Holy Trinity.

    I'm glad that Christianity is slowly moving back to its roots. Maybe one day, they'll call the god of Heaven and Earth Jupiter, Zeus or Odin again, instead of Jahweh.

    Old gods never die, they just fade away...

  56. You're a scrooge by KalvinB · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    And an excellent example of why our rights can so easily be eroded.

    "Sorry sir but this bitching bitter nerd doesn't see the point in this so you'll have to take it down."

    "Do people really like looking at the house Christmas threw up on?"

    You're an idiot. Obviously people want to see it. Otherwise it wouldn't be news. It's a holiday tradition for many people to drive around and see the decorations on people's houses.

    You'd know this is if didn't live in the basement completely cut off from society.

    Ben

    1. Re:You're a scrooge by winterdark40 · · Score: 1

      You're a scrooge

      And an excellent example of why our rights can so easily be eroded.

      Our rights? Well it does affect the rest of us too, because it leads to more polluted air, greater strain on our shared power grid, and a consumer demand that will contribute to more of the US foreign policy we've been seeing lately. This Christmas display is an SUV of a different color.

      I don't think Skavookie was criticizing the idea of putting up lights in general, it's just a matter of the ridiculous excess. The United States already consumes as much electricity as 40 per cent of the world's population, and here's a guy who's turning his house into an energy black hole, on the basis that it's pretty.

      I have no control over this man's behavior, but I hope he's paying through the nose for that electricity. He certainly would be, if the Bush administration would quit subsidizing oil, coal, and nuclear, and actually let markets work.

  57. Only because it doesn't run Linux by KalvinB · · Score: 1

    Anytime some nerd spends countless hours and thousands of dollars on some useless feat of technology Slashdot goes "oooh" and "ahhhh"

    Some guy spends equally as much time and money on decorating his house in a way that masses of people want to see, you whine about how much time and money it cost.

    Sorry nerd boy, the world doesn't care about the fact you wasted a pile of time and money on getting your C64 on the internet.

    5 people give a shit about your uesless little Linux running toy. Thousands of people enjoy this guy's house.

    Too bad. It's his money, he can spend it how he wants.

    Why don't you take your money and time you've wasted on worthless tech toys and put it towards charity.

    Then, once you've ceased to be hypocritical, we'll consider criticizing this guy's ambitions.

    Ben

  58. To the environmental whiners by crucini · · Score: 0

    Lots of people are complaining about the presumed impact of this display on the environment. While I couldn't reach the site, someone quotes the FAQ as saying that the total energy cost for the display is $156. In California, that's less than the cost of running two headless PC's for a year. So maybe you could run 4 PC's for that in Tennessee. Does that put it in perspective yet?

    I think some people had a negative reaction to the display, and tried to rationalize it with a fimsy argument about environmental impact.

    I was hoping for interesting discussion of cheap ways to control a lot of I/O points, logistics of storing and setting up such a display, etc.

    1. Re:To the environmental whiners by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

      Yeah thats what I thought. Christmas lights are relatively low wattage. Especially the new ones. You can't find higher wattage C-9's in anything except candleabras. Even these are hard to find this year. My fav that I saw this year and bought were the round ones that give off a soft light that's cool to the touch.

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  59. Re:It's "Merry Christmas", bub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    good to see ya getting in the spirit of the season

  60. An apt quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone recently sent me this holiday season quote from "Bridget Jones Diary":

    Sympathize with Jesus in sense of embarrassment he must, and perhaps should, feel over imposition of his own birthday on large areas of globe."
    --Helen Fielding

  61. The true geek... by rende · · Score: 1

    ...is more impressed with the massive rat's nest of cables coming in through the window then lights themselves.

    My only complaint is there were not enough high voltage signs. I really don't think the 10 or 12 signs he has up now get the message across.

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  62. The church by Refrag · · Score: 1

    Ugh. That's one of those hideous looking warehouse-churches!

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  63. Not Physics, But Biology by ejungle · · Score: 1

    It has to do with the rods and cones on your retinas. The periphery of your vision is made up with a greater proportion of rods to cones than the middle. Rods have a faster response time to changes in luminance than do cones. Whereas cones can better define colour than rods.

    So that's why you can see screen flicker better from the side of your field of view. There are more rods there.

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    1. Re:Not Physics, But Biology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thank you.

  64. Great Idea by adot · · Score: 0

    Nice idea - slashdot your boss.

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  65. Mirror by compwiz · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mirror up here for those of you who just can't wait.

  66. Woooha, please engage brain! by Squashee · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    In some twisted way this allways comes as a suprise to me, but you actually don't have a clue what's on stake here do you?

    The enviro-hippies have gotten to you.

    No, i just had a brush with reality. Maybe you should take a look at it instead of Bush's "enviomental" policy.

    Jeez, who cares. It's his money to spend. If he wants to put 200kW of heating elements in his yard so people admire the pretty red glow, that's his perogative; he's the one paying for the power.

    Is this a joke, or are you so narrow-minded that you only se $$$ in all this? There is a bigger picture you know, end when the shit hits the fan you actually can't just hand over some cash and restet the environment. Some day we have face the consequences of our actions.

    I'm so tired of all this "reduce reuse recycle" propoganda crap.

    I could not care less if you don't want to listen to the truth or not, as long as you act responsibly. There a many levels between stoneage and this waste, and one of them is NEED. You don't NEED to artificially flambe your house to live in relative comfort! There is no need to take to the extrems in either direction.

    be my guest but stop dictating what others can and cannot do

    No, I will not since this affects me and my children etc. Just use common sense... if you have any. They do have some form of education where you live right?

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  67. What a waste. by chadm1967 · · Score: 1

    What a waste of money and electrical resources.

  68. What about this guy's poor neighbors? by baine · · Score: 1

    I've actually been to Chuck's house when I lived in Nashville, TN. There were cars lines up for blocks in either direction, waiting to get a look.

    Now, my question is, does this increase or decrease property values for his neighbors? If someone were enterprising, they should've been selling hot chocolate car to car (and then come by 30 minutes later and offer the use of their bathroom at $5 per person per visit).

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    1. Re:What about this guy's poor neighbors? by gral · · Score: 1

      He moved it to a Church Parking Lot. Traffic actually has a seperate entrance and exit.

      It took him 2 weeks to set everything up.

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    2. Re:What about this guy's poor neighbors? by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

      Geesh your worried about something that may be going on for about 1-3 months a year lowering property values? Anyway, I think it would not affect the property values all that much.

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  69. Damn! by DrDNA · · Score: 1

    Just look at all those wires going through that window.

    Have any pictures from after the fire?

  70. Right by ZxCv · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The precious energy that humankind dearly needs sometimes goes waste. Wars have been fought over it and thousands of people wait in lines for fuel/gas etc. So while some might be just burning away that energy in 200,000 lights, others are starved of that energy!

    Yah, because if I don't run my Christmas lights tonight, the energy situation on the other side of the globe is going to improve. Right.

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    1. Re:Right by $exyNerdie · · Score: 1

      Yah, because if I don't run my Christmas lights tonight, the energy situation on the other side of the globe is going to improve. Right.

      No, didn't mean it that way, but moderation is the key... better to have 20,000 or 2,000 lights instead of 200,000. The numbers multiply pretty quick even in a small town of few thousand people.... and wastage is wastage... But for the accident of birth, you could have been in that gas line on the other side of the globe!

  71. Light Returns? by annielaurie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My first instinct when I saw the website was that it would be wonderful if even half of all that electricity could be used instead to provide light, heat, and cooking to a family whose power has been turned off due to inability to pay. Every year in the city where I live, we have at least one terrible fire caused by a family using candles or an antiquated, non-working kerosene heater. Sadly, it seems that babies or young children are the ones who die in these fires.

    Whether we observe a religion or have a more secular mindset, the season is about light. We may be celebrating the birth of one who brought light, or observing the light of freedom from oppression, or noting the lengthening of days. It's certainly appropriate to decorate our homes or personal spaces. But I think it would make a more joyful and appropriate celebration to see the literal bringing of light to darkened homes and lives.

    Anne

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    1. Re:Light Returns? by Blkdeath · · Score: 1
      Every year in the city where I live, we have at least one terrible fire caused by a family using candles or an antiquated, non-working kerosene heater.

      I find it strange that my parents and grandparents managed to live for years without any electricity in their homes, yet nowadays we have political figures crying to rid our homes of the life-threatening scourge of the modern era - CANDLES!

      In my humble opinion, people too stupid to safely manage a candle deserve what they get. Darwinism forever - remove the warning labels and let the stupid sort themselves out. Our gene pool is far too diluted with stupdity and lack of personal responsibility.

      Say it with me, folks; "I burned my house down. Wax makers are not responsible for my losses."

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    2. Re:Light Returns? by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      And how much have you done, other than write about it on a weblog, to help those people?

    3. Re:Light Returns? by annielaurie · · Score: 1

      Ahem. Where I live, it's as easy as paying your bill. In fact, they slip a special envelope in with the bill. Do we donate? Yes, annually, even when we're not having such a great year ourselves. It seems to be a better use of funds (not to mention energy) than garish, fuel-consuming lights that nobody will remember when the season is over.

      THE FUEL FUND OF MARYLAND FACT SHEET

      Mission: The Fuel Fund supplements resources for those experiencing hardship with essential home energy needs.

      The Fuel Fund of Maryland, Inc. has been in existence since 1981.

      Last year, the Fuel Fund served almost 5,000 families with an average energy grant of $181. Leveraged funds on behalf of clients increased to $324 per household.

      The Fuel Fund operates in Baltimore City and Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Carroll, Harford, and Howard Counties.

      The Baltimore City Fuel Fund, now known as the Victorine Q. Adams Fuel Fund, was the first Fuel Fund in the nation solely dedicated to helping poor families with their energy needs.

      The Fuel Fund provides emergency assistance for low-income families who cannot pay their gas, electric or oil bills, as well as assistance with wood, kerosene, and propane when needed. Based on the circumstances, the Fuel Fund may assist needy families regardless of their income.

      The Fuel Fund receives 60% of cash contributions through a combination of Fuel Fund Envelopes distributed in BGE bills, corporate support and foundation grants.

      BGE customers make available $1 million in utility credit matches each year that families do not have to repay..

      The families served have an average annual income of $13,000 for a family of 3.

      Elderly, retired and working families constitute about 70% of the households served. The other 30% usually are facing some kind of crisis which prevents the wage earner from working, such as a job layoff, disability or medical emergency.

      Children represent over 50% of the individuals served.

      The Fuel Fund of Maryland is committed to distributing $700,000 to local agencies for FY 2001-2002.

      The Fuel Fund of Maryland provides supplemental assistance for poor families - meaning a family must pay 1/3 of their bill on their own. The Fuel Fund provides assistance with another 1/3 of the bill and the remaining 1/3 is covered by credits made available by BGE customers.

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  72. Yup by ZxCv · · Score: 1

    Try pulling a bulb and see if it still works (small lights not big ones)

    I have several strings of small lights strung all over my house, and I know of a handful of bulbs that don't work, yet everything else is fine. I've even intentionally bought the cheapest light sets for the past 3-4 years, and not a single one has been wired in series. However, my parents did have a couple strings several years ago (~8yrs) that were wired as you say. The cheapo lights I got this year were something like $8 for a box of 450. At this price, you might wanna try some out.

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    1. Re:Yup by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      They're really not in series, what keeps the others lit is that there is now a kind of 'reverse-fuse' run in parallel inside the bulb. If the filiment burns out, the extra power going across the 'fuse' causes it to short instead of opening.

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  73. reminds me of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    rogre waters, amused to death .. and the alien anthropologisst admitted they were quite perplexed

    it seemed they had just amused themselves to death.

    fuck christmas.

    are you buying enough for Jesus yet?

  74. Backgrounder on XMAS lights & Saving Watts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some nice background on how holiday lighting came about and ways to reduce the kilowatts with LED's on analogzone.

  75. Close Encounters of a Christmas Kind by KlaatuVN · · Score: 1

    This guy lives near me! I'm so going to check this dude out. Thanks slashdot for the skinny on some good christmas lights.

    -KVN

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  76. Those yards a fucking ugly. by Bl33d4merican · · Score: 1

    Need I say more?

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    1. Re:Those yards a fucking ugly. by Gumbuoy · · Score: 1

      No. Youve established youre an idiot. Carry on.

  77. Clark W. Griswold... by n1ywb · · Score: 1

    would be insanely jealous.

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  78. What Repercussions? by bdkives1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No, the guy still didn't comply.

    The Copeland mentioned above is Al Copeland. Has anyone ever eaten at a Popeye's Fried Chicken. Al Copeland started Popeye's. http://www.popeyes.com/popeyesstory.html
    He then bought Church's Chicken, and wound up loosing them both. He still owns the company the supplies the spice for Popeye's.

    He also owns the more upscale Copeland's Restaurant, which is actually quite good. http://www.copelands.net/

    And yes, this is the same Al Copeland that had Anne Rice sending out the Vampire Lestat out to talk to him about the color of his neon light. http://www.kicon.com/law/cases_e/annrice.html and http://www.nola.com/haunted/?vampires/021297straya .html and http://www.nola.com/haunted/?vampires/092797straya .html

    So if you want to see some Real Christmas Lights, go the the end of Transcontinental drive by the lake in Metairie, La, just outside of New Orleans. He has around over a million lights. Yes, he has his own transformer. He used to hire college engineering students to help put them up. It is really something to see. http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/remodeling/article/0,1797 ,HGTV_3659_1581560,00.html and http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3660533&p 1=0

    1. Re: What Repercussions? by bdkives1 · · Score: 1
      I forgot to mention, The 1985 Rodrigue v. Copeland and 1886 Klein v. Copeland lawsuits happened when Big Al Copeland was only putting up 250,000 lights.

      So the guy's boss has at least 50,000 lights to go...

  79. Impressive by CBob · · Score: 1

    At least his electric company loves him. ...and folks said there'd be no market for home fusion reactors....

  80. Pain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's gonna be painful when the Fire Marshall pulls out the AssRipper2000 and lets fly.

    It's remotely organized, but the electrical work can't be up to code. That many outlets in that small a space... -- Catonic

  81. modded up? by genner · · Score: 1

    How come everyone who claim's they are a troll get's modded up as insightful?

  82. Please tell me how to make Xmas lights go to music by ClioCJS · · Score: 1
    My father, in the 1970s, owned a 'box' that made Christmas lights go to music. In the late 1990s, I spent hours investigating how to get one of these. The best I could find was a guy who would custom-make a one-off unit that would do this -- for $350.

    I have christmas lights in multiple rooms in my house. All year round. They are turned on daily. I don't like white lights. I like blacklight, colored lights, christmas lights, and (the best) CRT-light.

    I'd REALLY like them to go to music. And not the lame way, but by-color. That is, use FFTs to isolate bass, mid-range, treble, and affect a different color. I invision red being bass, but it really wouldn't matter.

    Now I know this is possible. The cheap way is to just take scissors, cut the plug off your christmas lights, and put that in the back of your stereo. This works, but does not separate the separate frequencies per color. They all just go on. And if they are 90 watt lights and you have a 100 watt stereo..... Turning it all the way up makes them explode. Neat. (Don't try this at home.)

    But c'mon... There's GOTTA be an easy way to do this....... I would be sooooo happy...

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  83. Re:It's "Merry Christmas", bub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have a Boss just like that, you can tell your story here...

    http://www.thepeterprinciple.co.uk/