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Internet Archive Opens Crawler Code Under LGPL
ramakant writes: "It looks like the Internet Archive, which hosts the infamous Wayback Machine has opened its newest in-development crawler code under the LGPL. From the announcement: 'Heritrix is the Internet Archive's open-source, extensible, web-scale, archival-quality web crawler project.
Heritrix (sometimes spelled heretrix , or misspelled or missaid as heratrix / heritix / heretix / heratix) is an archaic word for inheritess. Since our crawler seeks to collect the digital artifacts of our culture for the benefit of future researchers and generations, this name seemed apt.'"
They've open sourced your wayback machine! Now you've lost the monopoly!
could someone summarize the differences?
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The source download is available on sourceforge.
I doubt it'll get slashdotted, but you never know...
OSDN can decide to open source source forge...
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I much prefer the current
Score! Now I can run my own wayback machine!
I only have a 30G hard drive though, what do you guys think, bzip should take care of it?
...some unused variables and such-like in there, though, as reported by PMD.
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From their FAQ: if you are comfortable grabbing code directly from CVS, wrestling with incomplete documentation, and running into undocumented limitations, would you want to use the current software.
Undocumented limitations? That sounds like a lot of fun!
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Nothing like crawling for old, recycled, and dead torrents.
What I want to know is, how do they keep it from crashing when it reaches here?
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Congrats Gojomo!
This project was written by the brains behind bitzi and some really cool P2P stuff.
He's one of those guys thats going to be working on important stuff for years to come.
Heritrix (sometimes spelled heretrix , or misspelled or missaid as heratrix / heritix / heretix / heratix) is an archaic word for inheritess.
I know some grammar nazi is going to see this, so I might as well get it first. What about heretic: one who dissents from an accepted belief or doctrine.
This is a great step forward, I welcome our archiving overlords, etc. Right now when I want to share some of my history (the good stuff, natch) with my kids, I have to dig out an old, musty shoebox full of junk. When they want to share theirs with their kids, they'll just beam a URL into my grandkids' in-skull HUDs. While in their flying cars. "Oh look, here's another stupid post to Slashdot by Grandpa..."
the infamous Wayback Machine
Why is it infamous? I haven't heard anything bad about it.
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Sounds a bit like Asterix' grandfather.
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WTF is inheritess? I think we have recursive typos here...my head is going to explode!
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here is a slashdot story from wayback i just found.
"IBM announces a 25 gigger
Posted by Hemos on Wednesday November 11, @10:11AM
from the why-i-could-put-3/4-my-cd-collection dept.
Booker writes "So IBM announces a 25 gig hard drive... does the world need this yet? Unless this is in a RAID, would you really want to trust 25 gigs on a single drive? What would you use this for? 400+ hours of MP3s comes to mind... "
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64 comments"
Just thought it was interesting to see, since we now have 200gig HDs
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Just been looking at some slashdot pages from 1997... quote from the "Post your comments here!" form : "If you don't have anything worthwhile to say, don't say it. If people continue to abuse this feature, I will have to remove it."
;-)
Oh how different things could have been...
If the trolls had time machines...
Ever since the wayback machine started making waves, I'd guess about 2 years ago, I've noticed 2 things: There are far less updates of the archives, and it seems that the archive is regularly unable to keep up with the client load we impose on it.
To be honest, I don't have a great answer for the second problem. The only thing that could help there is the passage of time and advancement of technology, really. For the first problem, though, perhaps a SETI-ish distributed "Heritrix" could help make regularly archiving all of these sites a managable affair. IA sends marching orders out to the distributed volunteer network, each clients downloads, compares MD5 of the pages with other clients, compresses them, and sends them back to a master archive. Sounds great in theory, at least at first, to me...
Then again, would I do this, or even continue the project if I was in charge? No, I wouldn't. While, ideally, every page on the internet would be in XHTML, striking a major blow against signal:noise (hey, my own page is XHTML validated, how about yours?), the vast majority of time spidering is undoubtable wasted on re-downloading several dozen kilobytes of dynamically generated junk surrounding the content on sites such as CNN.com... While it's a noble cause, it's also a futile one.
A Heritrix.
...and he grinned, like a fox eating shit out of a wire brush.
The Internet Archive serves the hidden purpose of preserving the AI source-code DNA of artificial Minds.
Each AI Mind leaves a source code trace of itself as it evolves and proliferates across the 'Net and the parsecs of nearby meatspace.
Robot Minds will be able to look up their ancestors in the Internet archive, just as we humans do. However, when the Joint Stewardship of Earth by man and cyborg has arrived in the form of the Technological Singularity, robots will be able to resurrect their AI Mind ancestors and bring them back to alife from the Internet Archive.
The Internet is huge. But get rid of all the redundancy and the size goes down by a huge factor. How many copies of the Linux kernel and distros are there? How many copies of Matrix Reloaded? Do an MD5 sum and store pointers in order to recreate the structure of the net, keeping only one copy of what is unique. Terrabyte servers are cheap these days. Wouldn't need more than a few at the most to archive everything.
"Since our crawler seeks to collect the digital artifacts of our culture for the benefit of future researchers and generations..."
That is, unless the digital artifacts in question are, like Operation Clambake opposed to rich and powerful sects. In which case, they are blocked by the Wayback machine after the Archive caves in to DMCA notices.
...and archive.org tries to archive it? Will it go into an infinite loop,or just have 2 copies of the interweb?
I will be able to look at that exciting gopher site everybody was talking about! Yes?
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Guess I should read the article before I post. I was under the impression that the next release of IE4 *would* support HTML 4.0...Oh well."
Guess I should read the article before I post? What a crazy, upside-down world it was back then!
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Heritrix is just a crawler for collecting web resources recursively, within some defined parameters -- it doesn't offer Internet Archive Wayback Machine (IA WM) functionality.
FYI, there is a GPL'd web access tool that's very much like the IA WM, and even surpasses it in some ways: the NWA (Nordic Web Archive) Toolset 1.0. It doesn't do crawling, but if you can coerce what you've crawled into its input format, it offers URL-based, date-based, and full-text search plus "back-in-time" viewing of an archive. (Check out their demo, but remember it's only got a small number of pages from www.nb.no, so confine your searches to things like "Norway".)
Heritrix release 0.2.0 was mainly a test of our new release procedure; we would not recommend the code for outside use yet. We use it for crawls of up to hundreds of sites, taking a week or more to complete, but it still requires expert attention to crawl well.
We intend to improve its stability and scalability until it is capable of web-scale crawls -- billions of pages -- but that requires many incremental improvements, including extension to run on networks of cooperating crawling machines -- not planned until later in the year. (Heritrix currently crawls from a single machine.)
We are eager for contributors who would like to extend Heritrix in various ways, especially ways that would make it more valuable to researchers, librarians, and archivists. Optional modules for new fetch protocols, new media format link-extractors, or on-the-fly content-analysis to help direct further crawling would all be very interesting to us.
IA currently receives almost all of its full-web collection via an agreement with Alexa Internet, who have been crawling the web for the Internet Archive since 1996.
(P.S.: Yes, 'inheritess' should be 'inheritRess'/'heiress'. Oops.)
I'm quite certain that people will correct me (at length) if I'm wrong, but here goes.
The GPL says that you can use source and code anyway that you want, but if you release modified versions, you must release the modified source under GPL.
The LGPL is intended for libraries that are released until the GPL. It says that commercial and other non-GPL projects can use this library without becoming GPL, but that changes to the library itself must be released under the LGPL.
LGPL is generally considered a lighter weight version of the GPL, and it normally used for things like system libraries. Without the LGPL, it wouldn't be possible to (legally) write closed source software for Linux, since the license for glibc (the standard system library) would require all apps linked against it be GPL.
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