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CES 2004 Coverage

TheCheat writes "CES 2004 is just getting underway in Las Vegas. It looks like there is quite a bit of coverage from several websites including: Anandtech's revelation of Intel and AMD roadmaps; Tom's Hardware's look at Xbox2 rumors; A look at Microsoft's keynote at ExtremeTech; and finally a look at some BIG monitors at TrustedReviews. It looks like CES is much bigger than COMDEX this year."

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  1. really BIG monitors? by Metallic+Matty · · Score: 5, Funny

    A freakin' 76 inch monitor!?

    My god.. its like some sort of idol for geekish worship.

    1. Re:really BIG monitors? by MoonFog · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I worked at National Oilwell Norway last summer, and some people there used 3 - 4 monitors to draw an AutoCAD drawing. For them, these monitor sizes might be just what they need.

      Also, imagine displaying your entire source code on the screen without needing to scroll ;)

    2. Re:really BIG monitors? by Kenja · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just think how long it'll take to clean when you sneeze.

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    3. Re:really BIG monitors? by ePhil_One · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, because the resolution is only 1920x1080, meaning its good for HDTV content, presetaions, etc, but will suck doing your spreadsheets unless you want to work on them from accross the room.

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  2. CES is just getting under way? by billnapier · · Score: 3, Interesting

    CES has been underway since the first CES press conferences started on Wednesday! There are a lot of places that have already been coverint CES for 3 days before /. got to it!

    I usually laugh when I hear the news report something I heard on /. 3 days prior. Now I'm crying because /. is losing its edge...

    1. Re:CES is just getting under way? by tommck · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Don't worry... After the third dupe of this item, we'll have covered it more than any other news outlet ten times over...

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  3. Re:76" Monitors? by Metallic+Matty · · Score: 2, Funny

    Were are going to need some really hi-res pr0n to make best use of that

    I have no doubt that this is a common use for such viewing technologies.

  4. Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. by revscat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Plasma displays seem to have gotten all the media attention for some reason, but DLP projectors and displays are superior in just about every measurable way: brightness, weight, resolution, etc. Plus DLP screens are far less of a maintenance nightmare: the only thing you will ever have to replace is the bulb, and that only once every 3 or 4 years. Plasma screens, on the other hand, are not expected to have a total lifetime of much longer than that.

    Oh yeah, and vim is better than emacs.

    1. Re:Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. by marcop · · Score: 2, Insightful

      DLP is NOT a flat panel display. There are some applications that require flat panel displays. If someone wants big and flat (direct view) then they have to go with plasma unless the bigger LCD's are big enough.

    2. Re:Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. by Golgofrinchian · · Score: 4, Informative

      Call me biased because I was a Sony employee for a couple years in the Retail Sales Division... I want to set the record straight a bit,
      DLP's micro mirrors have a higer probability of breakdown than plasma. DLP is _not_ made by Sony. They make Plasma and LCD projection. Plasma has a lifespan of around 10,000 hours. After that the gas loses life, kinda like an old neon tube. LCD's can pop pixels. Nothing is as long term as the good old CRT. Problem is to make a large CRT you need a long neck at the back of the screen. This prevents most CRT's to stay around 40" else they cant make it through the door of your house.

      Golgofrinch *8^)

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    3. Re:Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. by LazyBoy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Plasma displays seem to have gotten all the media attention for some reason, but DLP projectors and displays are superior in just about every measurable way:

      DLP is not superior with respect to black-levels, "white chrush", thin-ness, and making people nauseous ("rainbows").

      There is no one answer that fits all when TV shopping. There are trade offs.

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  5. Monitor? by ajiva · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Considering my Monitor (24") is bigger than my TV (21"), I think I value computing more than "entertainment" :)

    1. Re:Monitor? by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Considering my Monitor (24") is bigger than my TV (21"), I think I value computing more than "entertainment" :)"

      Internet porn is not computing, it's entertainment.

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  6. not quite the largest plasma screen.... by Kamphor · · Score: 5, Informative


    "This 76in plasma screen is the largest in the world." - from TrustedReview's website

    here's a link from dell's website selling an NEC 84inch plasma monitor!

    http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.a spx?sku=A0149525&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=5914& page=external

  7. Gadgets, schmadgets.... by TopShelf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where's the booth girl review?

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    1. Re:Gadgets, schmadgets.... by Kenja · · Score: 2, Informative

      Across the street from Comdex at Adultdex. I only wish I was kidding.

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  8. I'm so TORN by subjectstorm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ninja Gaiden was one of my favorite nintendo games of all time growing up. i made a video where i set its now famous opening scene to a soundtrack of "Welcome to the Jungle" by GnR.

    I don't know for sure, but i imagine that NG will only be available on the X2. Please, someone, tell me i'm wrong about that. Tom's review of Microsoft's presentation on the future of console gaming (it's chilling, frankly) leaves me with sweaty palms and a dry mouth. EVERYTHING hosted on MSN? Passport is a big enough pain in the ass already.

    I've considered buying an X-Box already for titles like Halo and for the kickassness that is X-Box Live . . . but i resist, because it's like making a deal with the devil. I am tempted to sell out, i really am. I mean, have you SEEN how many crap games are flooding the market right now for PS2? I'm horrified every time i enter Wal-Mart (of course i would be anyway, but that's beside the point).

    Agh. Ninja Gaiden . . . Microsoft . . .

    Moments like these are why god invented beer.

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    1. Re:I'm so TORN by glenrm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You are wrong Ninja Gaiden is coming out for the X-Box in the this month or next...

  9. Let's not forget the Phantom... by Cutriss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From GamesIndustry.biz:

    Infinium Labs' proposed console, the Phantom, has made a showing at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas as announced by the company earlier this week, but only in the form of a box which was not switched on.

    The Florida-based start-up showed off a Phantom console on the Windows Embedded Device showcase stand at the event, but although the system sported a full array of connectors on the backplate, it was not powered up or demonstrated in any way.

    In terms of physical design, the box is almost exactly the same as the previously seen concept art and renders, and its size belies the standard PC components from which it is built.

    However, the fact that Infinium Labs did not properly demonstrate the console working is likely to add fuel to speculation that the entire project is some form of elaborate hoax or scam - even though this seems increasingly unlikely.

    The presence of the Phantom on the Windows Embedded Device stand, if nothing else, proves that if Infinium Labs is a hoax, it is a hoax which has taken in Microsoft along with several other key companies in the industry.

    Hoax or not, however, such a lacklustre and content free unveiling for the machine on its first public outing is unlikely to boost confidence in the device, which promises a "new way to deliver content" for the games industry, ever actually making it to the market.

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  10. four 42s != one 84 by RowdyReptile · · Score: 5, Informative

    here's a link from dell's website selling an NEC 84inch plasma monitor!

    Dell is marketing it as an 84-inch Plasma Monitor, but it's just "four NEC PX42VP4 Plasma Displays and the required wall mount bundled together". Not the same.

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  11. infinium labs is a huge bunch of spamming assholes by Indy1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    proof you say ?

    proof #1

    and proof #2, an email i recieved from their former hosting service who terminated the assholes for spamming.

    Dear postmaster.

    ASP-ONE corrected the issue of excessive spamming from one of our clients. Infinium labs were a client of ours who abused their account by spamming through our mail servers. We corrected this issue by terminating their account and permanently deleting them from our exchange servers.

    We like to request that you remove us from your blacklist so that our good standing clients can deliver their mails to your mail server.

    We apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused you, and look forward to a favorable and a speedy response from you.

    With regards,

    Jae Sim

    ASP-ONE

    System Administrator

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  12. You didn't help your parents that much by swb · · Score: 2, Informative

    You didn't help that much. Sony doesn't make DLPs, and they don't make their signature Grand Wega LCD rear projection sets in 41". Closest is 42". But it is still not a DLP.

  13. More relevant coverage, please. by Guano_Jim · · Score: 5, Funny

    The question that remains to be asked above all these hardware-related questions:

    How many girls in skimpy outfits are hawking products?

    Inquiring slashdotters want to know!

  14. Not necessarily by swb · · Score: 4, Informative

    Plus DLP screens are far less of a maintenance nightmare: the only thing you will ever have to replace is the bulb, and that only once every 3 or 4 years. Plasma screens, on the other hand, are not expected to have a total lifetime of much longer than that.

    Bahh, you haven't been paying very much attention. Samsung has had a ton of lamping problems with their DLP sets, and rumor has it they are even replacing the bulbs in them with a new design, requiring a retrofit. (Source: AVSForum).

    Furthermore, Sony's newest line of LCD rear projection sets, the Grand Wega IIIs, have had their own spate of lamping problems. There have been widespread failures of the lamping systems (which are compact arc lamps), and Sony's still not 100% sure what the issue is. My first GWIII failed after a week, and there are several others on the AVS Forum who have had theirs fixed and still they don't work right.

    I bnought the GWIII because the DLPs were rather harsh with SD content, and the image was overall a little too pixelish -- it FELT like a computer driven display, while the GWIII felt a little more film like to my eyes.

    As far as long term reliability once you get past the lamping systems and replacing a couple of $200 bulbs in them, nobody REALLY knows. DLP uses micromirrors, and we don't really know how long those will last. LCD panels won't last forever, either.

    As for plasmas longevity, we don't really know what that's like in terms of ordinary TV usage. They feel too fragile for my tastes, but we have two at work used for displaying PowerPoint, and despite the marketing people's use of a solid color logo in the same corner of every page for hours on end, I don't notice any evidence of burn in on them, and they're over 2 years old. The AVS Forum plasma posters seemed to indicate that the anti-plasma noise is much overstated, none noticing any evidence of burn in or other problems.

    Anyway, there are no perfect technologies. You just accept the tradeoffs you think are worth it, and hope that spending $3k+ on a TV doesn't make you a fool in 4 years.

    1. Re:Not necessarily by Qrlx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      and hope that spending $3k+ on a TV doesn't make you a fool in 4 years.

      If you plan is to watch TV for the next four years, then I'd say the chances are pretty high.

    2. Re:Not necessarily by Quikah · · Score: 2, Informative

      We have a 2 year old Plasma here at work, was great until the dumbass head of IT left a windows error message on it for a few days. There is now a huge ghostly windows error message on it.

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  15. Re:76" Monitors? by hrieke · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do you really want to see what these girls look like at HDTV resolutions?
    (Wall Street Journal had an excellent article about how broadcastors are having a hard time dealing with the way people look on screen, IE, Not Good. These are the men and women of soap operas, lord help us with porn stars).

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  16. AMD/Intel are eliminating buffer overflow code exe by geekee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    See here for something likely out of CES about the AMD/Intel efforts to stop buffer overflow code from being executed.

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  17. Porn Expo? by barureddy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will someone please elaborate? I was channel surfing past CNN saw that there is a porn expo going next door. Is that really true. If so that is truely a place the be for a geek.

  18. DISCover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    "In addition, the DISCover guys argued that the PC beats all consoles when it comes to titles and where else can you play Halo and GTA: Vice City on the same system."

    Uhm. That would be Xbox.

    However, I don't see Panzer Dragoon Orta, Virtua Fighter 4 or Zelda The Wind Waker running on PCs.

  19. Coolest announcement at CES: Fast cellular data by Magnus+Pym · · Score: 4, Informative

    Verizon is launching 1xEV-DO nationwide. This is a cellular (fully mobile) data technology that delivers 300-500 kbps average downstream thoughput, and 30-70kbps upstream. Peak rates are 2.4Mbps downstream and 153.6 Kbps upstream. The service is already operational in San Diego and Washington D.C and is marketed as Broadband Access.

    Think Richochet on steroids. The US has caught up with and surpassed Europe on wireless with this one.

    I tried to submit this story yesterday thinking this will of high interest to the slashot audience, but it was rejected. Oh well.

    Magnus.

    1. Re:Coolest announcement at CES: Fast cellular data by Magnus+Pym · · Score: 2, Informative

      No idea, but EVDO latencies are said to be far less than latencies of 1xRTT, GPRS or EDGE networks.

      Magnus.

  20. Re:76" Monitors? by slaker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Christy Canyon was stunning when she was 18 or 19 years old (around 1985). She kept performing until at least '97, though, so if your only memory of her is mid-90s, you missed her best work. If you can dig up a copy of "On Golden Blonde", you'll see what I mean.

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