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Mozilla 1.6 Released
Jack Comics writes "Asa Dotzler of the Mozilla Foundation has announced this evening the release of Mozilla 1.6. The Mozilla 1.6 release notes can be found here."
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It is very nice. Mozilla continues to get better with every release. Like AMD, it just needs some more public exposure...
If I point out that you are incorrect, making me a foe does not make you any more correct.
Another release of Mozilla is a great thing, but I've been personally more interested in Firebird / Thunderbird. As we all know Mozilla will eventually fully break up into the seperate projects, and my interest is completely oriented on the progress of Firebird / Thunderbird.
/., thanks for all your hard work in making free software that suits my wants and needs. Keep up the great work!
Firebird is a great browser about to hit 0.8 and stepping closer towards the great 1.0 release that took Mozilla years to obtain. Thunderbird is still in need of lots of work, but the progress is fantastic and I exclusively use it even in its immature state.
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I can't believe that development is still chugging along with Mozilla despite the fairly recent dismemberment of Netscape's Mozilla team.
I just hope that can get XUL to become a cross-platform standard for web applications. Some people don't mind using web interfaces, but I would prefer an application that looks like a real application (native widgets and all) wherever possible.
Are you a web coder? What are you waiting for? Start using XUL!
True story.
All slashdot readers know about the benefits of Mozilla but I am happy to see some more mainstream magazines giving props to the browser. I noticed it won some magazines comparo of browsers for the end of 2003. Perhaps this is due to the fact that we keep seeing improvements in Mozilla while it seems like IE has been a stagnant product for some time.
I would like to salute the ashes of american flags, and all the fallen leaves filling up shopping bags.
I'd love to hear more about mozilla as a platform. Java\python and open office integration is happening , I just dont think that it gets enough press.
Mozilla is easily the easiest open source project I've been able to implement, its that good.
IE is so dangerous that its not worth the integration -- even my users are beginning to get that.
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I'm currently running the Windows version of Mozilla 1.5 over IE. I recently downloaded the SVG-enabled version of Mozilla, and it's pretty neat. Any ideas when SVG support will be officially merged into the Mozilla stable tree?
Just curious, who uses the suite instead of Firebird/Thunderbird... and why?
I prefer the individual applications, primarily due to launch speed, but also due to what I think is a superior interface of components in the components-as-apps approach vs. the components-in-suite approach.
The roadmap has implied for some time that 1.4 was the last unified (XPFE) Mozilla-based release. 1.5-1.6 was supposed to be the Firebird transition period, during which Mozilla-the-unified-browser was supplanted by Thunderbird and Firebird. Perhaps that was too ambitious, and they've changed their mind, but the roadmap still indicates otherwise.
What's the deal? It really looks like the new roadmap is "build in all the features people REALLY bitch about into XPFE Mozilla, then once Firebird/Thunderbird is more stable, we'll transition to those". I'm fine with that, but shouldn't they just come out and say it?
Shudder. Ancient HTML 3 code... oh the horror.
As an aside, Anybody know when Moz will officially be branched off into firebird/thunderbird components? I thought this was supposed to happen around 1.6 apparently I was wrong.
"And so at last the beast fell and the unbelievers rejoiced. But all was not lost, for from the ash rose a great bird. The bird gazed down upon the unbelievers and cast fire and thunder upon them. For the beast had been reborn with its strength renewed, and the followers of Mammon cowered in horror."
from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15
WTF is that?
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What I'd like to know is: why are releases made with known Major bugs, and what does it take for a bug to get seen to and not sit in Bugzilla, ignored? It has certainly made me feel that there is little point in reporting any further bugs. Could someone explain Mozilla's QA process to me?
Actually, the Eolas "president" (it's a one-man operation) is only going after Microsoft specifically to promote "alternative" browsers such as Mozilla. At least it'll give us an IE patch; it seems like the only way to get Microsoft to update the thing is to come up with a lawsuit. Anyone have patents on a "Faulty DOM Implementation"? Or maybe someone with a patent on "Buffer Overflows" could take out the whole company.
That is the impression I got from the roadmap too: "Deliver a Mozilla 1.4 milestone that can replace the 1.0 branch as the stable development path, then move on to make riskier changes during 1.5 and 1.6. The major changes after 1.4 involve switching to Mozilla Firebird and Thunderbird ..."
Apparently "after 1.4" means several versions after 1.4. The Mozilla roadmap is as clear as mud (pretty diagrams though). The Firebird roadmap is much more concise.
It's a running gag type of easter egg.
You know how in Internet Explorer and Firebird you can type a word (like 'google') and hit Control+Enter, it will convert 'google' to 'http://www.google.com'. I like that feature. Sure, you can just type 'google' and hit enter while it tries to figure out what you mean, but Control+Enter shaves precious seconds off of the load time. In Firebird, there's also Shift+Enter and Ctrl+Shift+Enter too, but I don't use those. IE only has the Control+Enter feature. But Mozilla lacks all of them!
that's an option in "preferences". It doesn't come enabled by default, but it's there.
Also, a very nice thing about tabs (aside from being able to collect tabs in a window by topic) is bookmarking tab groups; all the documentation you want at your fingertips and at the click of a button.
FWIW, I have 3 monitors, and still use tabs; they're just so danged useful.
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They should release a branch build without the overhead of image blocking, now that the Internet's favorite site is no more.
Yeah now if only Mozilla wouldn't butcher the source so badly when you view it... goddamn, its annoying having it show lowercase HTML when you put it in uppercase.
"Once the *birds implement the same functionality from a UI and extensions perspective, and the same integration with each of the other components as the current suite, there is no reason to continue with this monolithic monstrousity."
Yes, I happen to agree with you... being a Firebird/Thunderbird user myself. I don't think whether the current suite is a monolithic monstrousity or a multi-process paradise matters to some. There are - apparently - those who desire the integration between components that the suite has to offer.
Hopefully, someday soon, the individual birds can acheive the same level of integration with each other while remaining separate processes... When that happens, the "Suite" will simply be the full collection of *birds. Until then, the single-process application lives on.
The name takes on new meaning when you realize that "moji" is a Japanese word for a character or ideograph. So "Mojira" could theoretically be the Japanese name of a "text-monster", which is somehow fitting for the Mozilla browser.
N4st0r, trixx0r h0bb1tz0rz! Th3y st0l3 0ur pr3c10uzz!
I see that vCard support has been added, but there doesn't seem to be any UI for it. Can anyone tell me how to open a vCard that is sent to me from Outlook?
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I got the idea after seeing (in my inbox) a phishing email for "http://westpack.com.au^A@{some.ip}"
Took me about an hour to edit the microsoft page for Mozilla-1.5 and get it working, and then hack the redirect so my homepage still validates. It took me 2 minutes from noticing Moz1.6 was out, editing the page with the new information, and posting the link here.
If Microsoft sends me a C&D, I'm not sure what I'll do. I don't really have any assets or income worth sueing for but I guess that's never stopped them before.
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Anyone know if Thunderbird has this option yet?
I'm now very tempted to install Mozilla and switch mail clients but I'd rather just have a stand-alone mail client like Thunderbird, and only have to transition mail clients once to get this feature.
Thanks Mozilla team!
--Aaron Greenberg
A truly useful extension would be one that would work on the receiver's end and move top-posts to the bottom, or bottom-posts to the top (whichever way the receiver prefers to see it). So regardless of how the poster did it, you'd see it in your preferred method.
I know... technically difficult, but even if it only handled the simple cases...
Wolde you bothe eate your cake, and have your cake?
Most people don't know alternatives exist. Those I've shown Mozilla almost invariably switch.
NOT want to have to install 3-4 seperate programs for all the stuff mozilla has? I occaisionally use mozilla composer for quick stuff, I use mozilla mail for my email, and I use mozilla for my browser.
I like the mozilla preferences digalog, and i like the tools menu that has all the image, popup, and cookie controlls right there in a quick easy to use place.
Also, its quickstart is very nice and its interface has some subtle differences from firebird..most of which I like better.
I'm not saying discontinue firebird, since sometimes you just want a nice browser, and this is great.. But why discontinue the suite?
Kind of like MS office, I dont wanna have to install all the programs seperate..its nice to just have them all together, and select what I want.
Any thoughts?
It's easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
Why would anybody want to run it all in one process space? Because... you can keep common parts of the program loaded into memory for faster startup.
"he drew his sword Ringil that glittered like ice... and he wounded Morgoth with seven wounds..."
Slam me if you wish for being superficial, but Mozilla lacks the nifty drop-shadows and subtle visual cues that IE (and OSX?) features.
I'm an "old skool" transformed-to-CAD draftsman originally trained with actual pencils, paper and a bit of artistic flair for focusing the eye on what's important, and I dislike Mozilla's lack of visual enhancements.
I would switch to Moz immediately and permanently if it could do this (not because of the "cool factor" but because it is a better presentation).
Have a look at www.milonic.com and see what they have been doing regarding DHTML.
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yesterday I emerge rsync, and then emerge mozilla /rant
downloading and installing 1.5, and spend oh a few hours compiling... now this morning I wake up, and what do I find? they released 1.6 while I was compiling 1.5
but seriously, it's good to see that improvements continue, and at a faster rate than M$ IE
I will not give in to the terrorists. I will not become fearful.
I absolutely love Mozilla and run IE only to access sites which explicitly require it, such as my employers expense processing system.
That one only seems to break on the Java implementation. It apparently requires some of the WFC classes that aren't implemented in a more generic JVM.
Shouldn't there be some way to select the Microsoft JVM in Mozilla? I know its apostacy, but I'd like to try it nonetheless.
I just wish they would do more for performance. I've got 2 identical machines - one runs Debian Sid with galeon, Mozilla, firebird, konq, etc. The other runs Win2K. Debian is my main desktop and I use Galeon (which is Mozilla based for those of you unfamilar with Galeon) as my main browser.
IE loads the exact same pages almost instantly, where it can take several seconds for ANY of the linux-based browsers to load - some times as much as 10 times longer. It seems to be mainly an issue with tables.
For example: go to the the asterisk users mailing list, scroll down, click on a message, then click back. See how long it takes to re-render the cached page? Horrible. Try the page in IE and Mozilla. Konquerer is fastest of the linux browsers on this page.
Opera can restore all your tabs if it crashes..
Biblically, Mammon means money, so I wonder if they're saying that those who were in the business only for the profit motive cowered in horror.
Secession is the right of all sentient beings.