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Apple Releases Safari 1.2 and Java 1.4.2
smithk writes "Apple has released Safari 1.2 and Java 1.4.2. Panther owners only. Some new features of Safari include full keyboard access for navigation, download resume, support for LiveConnect, and support for personal certificate authentication. Also, web site compatibility has been improved." Available, as usual, via Software Update.
The best utility for Safari.. Content Filtering.
/Library/Application Support/SIMBL/Plugins/
PithHelmet really is a necessary tool, for Anyone who wants to filter content, not just advertisements, but cookies, and everything.
Version Tracker comments reveal that it does work on 1.2, but not out of the box. Just change the MaxVersion in the pList.
Crimped from the comments there-
If you use PithHelmet and have updated to Safari 1.2 you'll notice it doesnt work. Here is the fix that should work until PH gets a proper update.
open
Right click (control+click) PithHelmet.bundle and select "show package contents"
Open the info.plist file in either BBEdit or Property List Editor if you have the dev tools installed
Find where it says MaxSafariBundleVersion and change the value to 125
Save and restart safari. thats it, now it works.
If you need to install 0.7.2 fresh on a box with Safari 1.2 already on it, you'll need to do the following:
1. Download and open the PithHelmet folder
2. Navigate to the Packages subfolder
3. Right-click (ctrl-click yadda yadda) the PithHelmet.pkg file and select "Show Package Contents"
4. Navigate into the Contents/Resources subfolder
5. Open the file InstallationCheck in a text editor (I used TextEdit)
6. Chage the string 100 in the line:
exit((1 6) | (1 5) | 16) if ($1 != 100);
to 125 and save the file.
7. Install as usual by running the regular PithHelmet.mpkg package
Colin Davis
Safari 1.2 will run on any hardware that Panther runs on. A welcomed speed increase on my friend's Graphite iBook @ 366 mhz.
No there isn't. Look again. The only thing for 10.2 is v1.0. They even have a link to buy Panther next to the download options.
these two features have been annoyingly absent from safari since it came out and now they are finally here.
i wonder if/when the liveconnect code will trickle back up to konqueror (or is that where it came from in the first place? does konqueror have liveconnect now?)
Finally apple is doing something about speeding Safari up. I don't know about everyone else, but anytime i opened more than 5 tabs in 1.1, my whole machine would slow to a crawl. Already I can tell a huge performance increase with 1.2!
They don't really have that much choice in this case. There were a lot of fixes to Core Graphics and other frameworks of Panther (little things like text not rendering properly). I don't think it's at all realistic for Apple to back-port those fixes to Jaguar. And without them, Safari 1.1 and 1.2 would look terrible.
That has nothing to do with Hardware requirements.
So yes your G3 B&W will run Safari 1.2 with the current Operating System, Panther--OS X 10.3.x.
Welcome to Reality. Safari utilizes more and more Cocoa which has been pushed into the forefront and Carbon into the recesses as it should be.
OS X 10.4 and beyond will be even more Cocoa only.
Run KDE 3.2 on anything less than an i686 compliant based version of Linux and guess what?
It won't run.
Update your Operating System.
I hate to disappoint everyone but Apple put themselves on hold for 5 years to make Carbon run in OS X.
But since 1997 the plan has and continues to be OS X Cocoa which will benefit everyone.
Just remember, MacOS 9 stll works JUST fine on older hardware; even macOS 8. Apple intended to make the switch to the 'new-world' mac's with MacOS 10.
Don't gripe about older hardware support; it's just like the move from 16 bit to 32 bit; or from 68K macs to PPC. It's part of the companies views and goals. Change hurts, get over not being able to support MacOS X on NuBus, or early G3's.
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Please remember this as you whine. I quit crying and started buying. It's a brave new 64 bit Mac world out there. Wait until after the next speed bump then buy yourself a Dual 1.8. By then they should be what a 1.6 Single costs today.
Yeah, but I won't pay $130 to update it.
Then you don't get the free web browser that Apple graciously supplies for users of their current operating system.
It's simple. If you don't want to pay for what they're offering, that's your call. But you can't complain that you don't get the perks.
Where does your sense of entitlement come from?
Balderdash. The delays were mostly due to Apple abandoning NuKernel/Copland in favor of Mach-O, and also due to introducing a sub-layer based on BSD. These have nothing to do with programming APIs. Also, you need to understand that much of Carbon is based on concepts that never existed under the classic Mac Toolbox, like Carbon Events.
But since 1997 the plan has and continues to be OS X Cocoa which will benefit everyone.
Then explain Apple's continued support for QuickTime... the QuickTime API's are heavily dependant upon conventions introduced during the Mac Toolbox era. OS X also exposes BSD/POSIX, Java and X-Windows APIs for application development, all of which are orthagonal to Cocoa. Even AppleScript Studio relegates Cocoa to the sidelines as "glue." Importantly, Carbon is the best way to get procedural-level programming support under native OS X APIs. Procedural conventions tend to be easier to work with than object-oriented designs when targeting for cross-platform development, especially when trying to write code that targets both Windows and Macs. (Though one can argue this is as much a fault of Microsoft's design than OOP's limitations.)
Based on past discussions I've had and read, the advocacy that Cocoa seems to get arises from a confusion between Carbon/Cocoa and CFM/MachO. A Carbon application linked using MachO is just as much a native OS X citizen as a Cocoa app would be. Under the hood, parts of Cocoa are implemented as wrappers to Carbon functionality, and vice versa.
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If you reply, do so only to what I explicitly wrote. If I didn't write it, don't assume or infer it.
Create a css file somewhere with a text editor, put following inside (Not made by me, just found it somewhere and made some additions):Add this file as your Stylesheet in safari: Preferences/Advanced/Style Sheet.... there you go...
Most tips for the Mozilla userContent.css file work also with Safari, so search on google for userContent.css for more examples.
Apart from the fact that downloads can now be resumed, image downloads are much better. Previously, if you dragged an image from the browser to the desktop (or wherever), it would download it AGAIN. Now it simply copies the image from the cache, if it's up to date. Halve your bandwidth overnight! Also, image icons with a download in progress are no longer broken - the icon shows an animated progress bar (!) until the d/l is complete, then the proper icon shows up. The only thing missing is that the image file doesn't store a preview, so you still get the generic icon browsing downloaded images in the Open dialog.
Still to be fixed: The annoying jumping around that happens when reloading a previously scrolled page. It should stop trying to remember the old scroll position if it receives a new scroll event for that page in the meantime.
Everybody's got their favorite pet peeve and this one is mine. It's obvious now that the Grand Puba in charge of features has decided that thou shalt only only navigate via the toolbar. This omission remains despite the fact that every other browser on earth provides this feature and it is used by a majority of web surfers. My wife won't use it due to this inexplicable omission. She just gives me an incredulous look and exclaims "what do you mean there's no back and forward when I click? This thing sucks". Safari is my main browser and I like it a lot, but this is a major shortcoming in my book.
When it comes to application features, I'm often able to understand the reasoning behind a particular implementation even if I don't personally like it. But, for the life of me, I can't think of one good reason to leave this feature out.
Can anyone enlighten me on the advantages of always having to mouse to the upper left-hand corner to go to the previous page? Am I missing something? I know I can do it from the keyboard, but I often like to kick back and just use the mouse.
BTW, the update is nice. Faster. Renders some sites that previously were unreadable and/or unusable. I love the minimum font size feature and being able to tab through page items.
Safari Enhancer of course remains a must-have app for other tweaks. I also like Safari Bookmark Exporter so I can dump my bookmarks into Camino, Mozilla, and Firebird - speaking of which, where the hell is my 0.8?
Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?
>Apple forces you to upgrade the damn OS every single year at
>the low cost of $129.
Wow, Steve Jobs comes down to your house and makes you pay for the update at gunpoint? Why haven't I seen *that* on the news?
Face it, Apple doesn't force you, you can either pay the upgrade fee, or you can go without and your OS will still keep chugging along. No self destruct sequence, no crazed hoard of killer rabbits coming after you, it will just continue to work.
Integrate Keynote and LaTeX
The most notable change for me was the removal of the stupid four concurrent http connections limit. If you had four files downloading all you web browsing would just stop until one of the downloads finished.
Now that limit is gone. I just tried adding huge list of files for download and opened multiple tabs and everything worked beautifully. Also it's great to be able to resume failed downloads, no need for third party download managers anymore.
Why not for 10.2? OK, Framework... Framework can't be updated too? I mean, I flamed enough but nobody tells the exact reason. I am really curious.
BTW, to people standing in line to shout "Don't be cheapo, buy Panther", yes I bought, the upgrade. It works on my G5... I still get mad/confused about this kind of policy.
I don't get it, why Apple does such thing hurts its image? Really curious as end user only, no kidding...
Wah wah. Safari 1.2 won't run on Jaguar. Camino and OmniWeb both run on Jaguar, OmniWeb 4.5 and 5 both use Safari's rendering engine. You've got options, including sticking with Safari 1.1.
There's nothing requiring you to upgrade MacOS every year. If what you've got works for you there's little reason to upgrade simply because a new version came out. Major commercial apps have pretty wide support bases and typically run on 10.1 and up. Smaller shareware apps move a little quicker and some of them require at least 10.2 in order to run. It is in a developer's best interest to support a wide range of systems so it will be a long time before 10.3 or newer is an absolute minimum requirement for a majority of software.
If you want to troll you could at least be creative about it.
I'm a loner Dottie, a Rebel.
If they improved web site compatibility, they most likely changed the rendering engine KHTML. Does anyone know? The changes will have to be given back to the KHTML developers, since it is LGPLed. I know the Apple developers did that before, and I must say that this is a great example for a working open source license!
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Ok, I'm replying to myself, but I just did some more research and figured out that if you "Turn on full keyboard access" in the Keyboard Shortcuts tab in the Keyboard & Mouse section in System Preferences, it will allow you to tab through drop down menus, checkboxes, etc. I'm assuming that's been there all along and I never noticed. :)
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System Preferences -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts. Check "Turn on full keyboard access." Enjoy.
Now I don't understand why you would buy Panther (you did *buy* it, right?) if you knew that it wouldn't install on a usb-less G3. You knew because you check these things out before you plop down $129 for a forced upgrade (you do read system requirements before spending $129, right?).
Now, if you *really* want to install panther, you can go here. You're going to have to have the required hardware (you will RTFA, right?) before you can do it, which will mean a new PCI video card, as the 4 meg ATi Rage ain't going to cut it.
As far as Apple forcing you to upgrade, did Steve come to your house and hold a slightly rounded plastic gun to your head and make you click on the 'Safari' link? When Panther came out, did all of your software stop working? I don't know where the 'forcing' comes into play - by your logic, linux, windows, and BeOS force you to upgrade every time a new version comes out.
As far as running linux on your G3 - go to town! I happily run 10.2.8 on my beige g3, and its quite usable and easy to configure. If you want to give up OS X, that's your issue. Say goodbye to Photoshop, Safari 1.1 (which works fine), and the rest of the consistent GUI software, 'cause it ain't there for linux.
Switching your iPod. You're switching to activation coded, exploit-filled Windows. Quite a trade up, I'm sure. Although, I'm sure Bill won't come by the house to force you to upgrade. He's too busy leveraging his monopoly to bring more substandard software to market.
As far as the 12" Powerbook, there you're really shorting yourself. I have a 15", and as I've said before, it's the best computer I've ever had. It came with 10.2.8, and I got Panther for 20 bucks.
Steve didn't make me, I *wanted* to.
I think that you will find something to whine about no matter what, so do what you will do. Put up or shut up as Dad was apt to say.
You want to run Panther like the kids in Cupertino intended, get the Powerbook and enjoy it, because you will. It's nice. Retire the G3 (throw 10.2.8 on the bitch and put it out to pasture as an FTP server). It's had a long, hard life.
Most of all, stop complaining. You could be spending that $129 a year on antivirus software, spyware detection and removal, software firewalls, Norton Ghost and your time trying to figure out what services to disable this week, and how to get IE and WMP from stealing file associations.
If all that isn't worth $129 a year, maybe you should give up on computers and get a job pushing a rock to the top of a hill.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go run software update on my powerbook (and not worry about my exploit-free, Beige G3 FTP server) and check out the new Safari.
I won't debate Copland or Taligent. That was exhausted back in 1997 during the merger.
Apple has Politically maneuvered themselves to make sure as many popular APIs are available for OS X, to build a user base.
Does that mean these APIs won't get folded into ObjC equivalents?
The wrapping of ObjC to Carbon and vice versa is analogous to the Java Bridge between ObjC and Java NeXT developed during the WebObjects transition from ObjC to Java.
The decision to focus ObjC on the desktop and not on the AppServer has been one that bit Apple in the ass and they know it.
The advantages were removed from their products.
This is all from one who had to support WOF and Openstep.
Exposing APIs that market segments have wanted is a smart maneuver.
MVC Paradigm is at the very core of OS X. Linking to MachO was necessary because the OS was slow when all the Carbon/BlueBox/Classic layers were added.
Over time you will see OS X improve due to more Cocoa integration (new Finder being one example) and moreso. The latest Dev examples should show you how much the underpinnings of Cocoa are in Carbon now.
No one is saying ObjC is better than C++ or vice versa.
POSIX Compliance is necessary if one wants to work within the Federal Markets. And that's smart since the Feds have deep pocketbooks.
There were tons of APIs at Apple and NeXT that still aren't nailed down but are slowly morphing into a coherent structure that we'll all benefit from.
The biggest complaint people have about Objective-C is the syntax. Those complaints come from folks who haven't even scratched Cocoa's surface.
The corporations who whined won back in 1998--Adobe, Microsoft, Quark, Macromedia and a few others demanded Carbon.
Now that Microsoft is focused on .NET and C# don't think Apple hasn't noticed and don't think each revision comes with more and more Cocoa Examples for Developers to learn and leverage.
Its quite clear the folks in Engineering were smart enough to take the best of all their APIs and are broadening them under a common umbrella.
Let's just see exactly what happens by OS XI.
For now Apple has done a fine job abstracting its APIs enough to make Carbon a First Class Citizen in most senses due to duplicating efforts and coding time just so that the OS doesn't slow down. Since ObjC is only a superset of C it and interoperates with C++ you'd think people would welcome the advantages it offers when needed?
IANAAD: I am not an Apple developer.
Cocoa, Carbon, etc. aren't really orthogonal. Cocoa relies on BSD, Mach and Carbon. Carbon relies on Cocoa, BSD, and Mach. The reliance is decreasing, if you look at how menus work you'll see a good example.
Think of Carbon and Cocoa as just two ways to access the (mostly) same UI elements. The only difference is that it's a real pain in the ass to write anything in Carbon. I've written a few things in Carbon and a few in Cocoa. Programming in Cocoa is beautiful and fast, at least for something that was wedged sideways into C. And Cocoa's got a lot more thread safety than Carbon. Look at the Carbon docs, tons of functions either must be called by the main thread or aren't reentrant. I think people writing Mach-O apps in Carbon are either lazy, stubborn, or masochists. I write Carbon, but only when I need compatability with the systems of yore.
It took Apple time to put both Carbon and Cocoa in OS X. Cocoa ran on Mach already, but Apple wanted UI elements from Carbon. So in the beginning, they changed Cocoa so that it looked and felt like a Mac, and the changed Carbon so that it ran on systems that used real virtual memory.
Gotta love real virtual memory.
Still works here. I've had no problems with it.
Integrate Keynote and LaTeX
... 'session save' capabilities? Or, can we already do this with Safari, and I'm just clueless?
... I can't freakin' believe that browsers don't have this as a standard feature, but oh well.
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What I'm talking about is that when you close Safari, it remembers all your current tabs, all your windows, all your sites, and then when you re-launch it, it restores the whole 'session' to the way it was
Guess I should just dl the source and whack it in there myself... trouble is, I'm not sure I haven't overlooked how to do this yet
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The wrapping of ObjC to Carbon and vice versa is analogous to the Java Bridge between ObjC and Java NeXT developed during the WebObjects transition from ObjC to Java.
Cocoa and Carbon both sit on top of CoreFoundation and ApplicationServices. They are not wrapped to each other, they just use the same frameworks.
The decision to focus ObjC on the desktop and not on the AppServer has been one that bit Apple in the ass and they know it.
What?
The advantages were removed from their products.
Like... ??? At best it took Carbon a while to support services. Apple directly says not to use PDO; to use Apple Events or sockets instead.
MVC Paradigm is at the very core of OS X. Linking to MachO was necessary because the OS was slow when all the Carbon/BlueBox/Classic layers were added.
Eh? Mach supports host OSes. BSD is one of them; Mac OS 9 is another. Carbon is just an API, not a layer. MVC is a development style, not something core to Cocoa.
Over time you will see OS X improve due to more Cocoa integration (new Finder being one example) and moreso. The latest Dev examples should show you how much the underpinnings of Cocoa are in Carbon now.
Now you're talking out of your ass. The new Finder is not new, it's just got a stupid textured window. It's still written in PowerPlant. It is not linked to Cocoa at all.
Carbon's an API from the original Mac OS that was first modernized to be re-entrant. Then Apple started adding features to an API that the old management team declared dead since Taligent began, and continued with OpenDoc/ODF.
POSIX Compliance is necessary if one wants to work within the Federal Markets. And that's smart since the Feds have deep pocketbooks.
No, POSIX is necessary because no one is going to use your non-Unix if it isn't compatible with POSIX (non-POSIX == not Unix). Even Linux implements POSIX. BSD 4.4 Lite and NeXT did not. NeXT didn't support it because they didn't have the money or the time. Hell, it had cthreads instead of pthreads, which every other OS implements. Do you expect anyone to write custom threading code for Mac OS X?
There are now two major OSes on the planent. Win32 and POSIX. It would be stupid for Apple to not implement POSIX.
The corporations who whined won back in 1998--Adobe, Microsoft, Quark, Macromedia and a few others demanded Carbon.
No, Carbon (a procedural API) wasn't part of Rhapsody because Gill Amelio was an idiot. Porting from one object oriented framework (say, MFC) to another (say, Java or Cocoa) is, as Steve Jobs described it, like climbing down one 10 story building and climbing up another for everything you need to implement. Porting from one OOP framework and implementing it on another platform requires implementing the backend of the framework on the other OS (sa
I should think that's obvious by now -- yes, you do. Luckily, you're unlikely to run into them in other applications. It has to do with the way Safari has to patch into Core Graphics to perform drawing. It's at a much lower level than most applications.
Personally, I just bought the Panther upgrade for iChat AV ($30 alone), FileVault, and Expose. Expose, the new application switcher and the type-select menus alone were worth the cost of the upgrade for me.
But you can wait as long as you want before upgrading. Maybe 10.4 will be more exciting for you. There's no need to get every system release unless you really want something out of it. I don't think anyone can ever really argue they "need" something out of a Mac OS X release, since they obviously had the previous version and survived somehow without the feature.
Safari is not open source. The backend is. OMNIweb, based off the same backend, features sessions.
By the way, NeXT did support POSIX, but that required a specific support contract, so no it did not support POSIX, out-of-the-box but for Fed clients who demanded it we put it in.
I was there at Apple when the decisions were made.
Steve was asked by Fred Anderson what would it take to have you come back as CEO, because Gil is ignoring your advice and we are afraid with only 3 months of money left the company will fold?
Steve wanted an interim title and the opportunity to build a new board of directors.
He then made a decision to settle the Microsoft dispute and bury the hatchet, once and for all. That came down to private meetings.
Avie, Bertrand Serlet and others were holding high level meetings with third party developers as I've hinted at to convince them to use Cocoa and they informed them that would set them back years and there had to be a better way.
Back to Engineering and several weeks of brainstorming the teams decided to take the massive amounts of Procedural APIs and wittle it down to a reasonble number that they could then leverage the bulk of the legacy support and mesh them, over time with the future direction of Application Development grounded in Objective-C's Foundation and AppKit APIs.
CoreFoundation was born along with countless other APIs for cross pollination.
Gil Amelio saw the power of Cocoa and like anyone who hasn't developed much just thought it could Presto! change everything overnight. He was more than happy to dump the past and launch into the future with a new set of APIs that had nearly a decade of development already invested in them--Openstep.
No one at NeXT was thrilled with Java--they got it almost right is what the usual comments were up to "If only Sun would ever 'get' objects."
Java tries to be the best of both C++ and ObjC and misses on both but gee like any language if you don't get broad adoption it is perceived as being an inferior choice.
No one from the NeXT encampment has ever "wanted" to port Apps using Procedural APIs, unless you count the Quartz group which wrote Quartz and they wrote WindowServer.app in C. Just ask Andrew Barnes or Peter Graffanino how many lines of C are in Quartz or how many were in Openstep's WindowServer.app.
The languages used within OS X are chosen when it makes the most sense both technically and politically.
BeOS died because its founder's arrogance was greater than the technologies the company could offer Apple. The man wanted > $100Million and a top spot back at Apple. He was concerned about himself, first and foremost. The cost of NeXT exactly paid off the debts NeXT owed to Canon and other investors. Steve made nothing out of the deal and was reluctant to even come onboard, hence his original role as a consultant. He was concerned that the 300 plus NeXT employees were still gainfully employed and that our stock options would be honored, which they were.
The best day I remember was when Steve cancelled Sabbaticals and all those that were hanging around for their 3 month Sabbaticals all quit and stated the only reason they were here was for the 3 free months of pay. As I stated earlier Apple only had 3 months of money and paying for 1/3 of the Corporate Staff to sit on their rears and have a long vacation just wasn't gonna cut it.
Smart Politics, Outstanding Vision, Compassion for the Company as a whole and other attributes is what makes Steven P. Jobs the best person and only person that could have and has save Apple Computer Inc, from oblivion.
Fred Anderson is right up there, in my book, as one of the most able and intelligent executives I as a peon got to talk with and work for.
Apple just keeps getting stronger and stronger and if I recall thats what we want from Her.Well, don't forget the G3s were 2-3 times more than the equivalent PC at the time. It stands to reason they'd still cost 2-3 times as much.
i don't like being tied into an upgrade cycle by apple so i changed to Firebird, its a better browser anyway IMO
For people interested in an alternative to Safari, the Omni Group just released the first public beta of OmniWeb 5.0. It has some cool new features including a particularly nice tabs implementation, a (IMHO) more flexible interpretation of Apple's SnapBack, and site-specific preferences.
I don't mean to sound like an advertisement, and to be sure, OmniWeb has its quirks, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
Here is a link.
It is not free, it is a bundle. That is why only people that paid for Panther are entitled to get it.
One of the reasons I did not complain about the $130 bump to Panther is that it came with a few things that, to me, made it worth it. Expose, iChatAV, and the newer Mail.app are three things I would have gladly paid extra, so in my personal situation the jump to 10.3 was maybe $50 and the other $80 was on the extra apps.
I will gladly pay the yearly $130 if it means I don't have to put up with the hassle of keeping windows running. I just reinstalled Panther on my Titanium Powerbook 867 and I probably spent more time copying my back up files than what it took me to do the clean install (I had used the upgrade option first). I did not even have to reinstall most of my software.
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Go out and get yourself a Microsoft 5-button (w/scroll wheel) mouse. The forth button goes back (you don't evven have to configure it) and the 5th goes forward. It improves your web browsing experience like, eighteen fold. Best 30 bucks or so you could spend on your mac.
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In the meantime, you can use this simple AppleScript to solve your woes.
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By all means don't test your web pages for Safari compatibility. All I ask is standard HTML.
A programmer is a machine for converting coffee into code.
The X11 you could download for Jaguar was a BETA, and was never intended to be production-quality.
Also, Apple never promised that the finished version would work on Jaguar.
I see a lot of people, who have messages saying things like:
What you're really asking is, to let a company work for you and (thousand/million?) other for free?
Let me clarify some of my thoughts:
Assume you have a company with 100 developers who just released a new version of their OS. The developers worked a whole year on this new OS and are happy they're releasing it to the wild. Because this company has a vision, you want to upgrade them to the new OS ASAP, so everybody can use this new technology. Now there are a lot of clients who say they don't want to pay for the OS, because a step from 10.2.7 -> 10.3.0 is'nt a big step (what's in a number?). It's just a maintenance release they say.
Lets assume a very simplistic view on the costs of making this product:
Every developer makes 50.000 a year, you have 100 of them so the total is 5.000.000. So without any other costs like:
- You'll have to make manuals for the OS (write and print)
- You'll have to manufacture and design the box where the OS comes in
- You'll have to manufacture the CD's
- You'll have to ship all the CD's to distribution centre's and clients
- You'll have to update your website
....
You'll have to sell 5.000.000/129 = 38.759 CD's to get even.Jaguar isn't supported anymore?
Well as a lot of other companies or groups who are maintaining Operating Systems, older versions of the operating system mostly get bug- or security fixes and no new functionality, until the company stop supporting them.
Now assume the market asks for better support for Jaguar, now the company has to support Jaguar and Panther with these 100 developers. For every developer working on Jaguar and not Panther you have to pay, without any income, because Jaguar isn't for sale any more.
Yeah, you'll much prefer upgrading your PC every 2 years, or constantly as in my case. I would rather have a computer that required $129 a year in software, than $400 in hardware upgrades every 2 years. And face it, you can pirate Panther if it is that big of a deal. You can't download a 9800 off of Kazaa however.
I think it's very unwise from Apple to leave the former Jaguar OS out with the Safari update. In our organization this is a killer criteria and it clearly marks the dead of Safari as a standard !
There are plenty of reasons not to update to Panther yet (do we need to mention FireWire problems, SCSI instability, backwards compatibility problems with lots of Software and Workflow tools, DB's, etc.).
For many corporate users it is not well advised to switch to a new release (Panther) before this kind of problems are resolved, and this, mind You, usually takes a while. In our example from our 65 Mac's only the latest G5's are up to 10.3.2 already, everything else lags behind (will follow as soon as budget is ready and problems are solved).
It is therefore impossible to use the same version of Safari companywide, which in turn leads us to switch to Mozilla or any other decent product which IS MAINTAINED PROPERLY ON DIFFERENT OS RELEASES, as it should be ! If Apple is NOT EVEN CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING ONE SINGLE OS-RELEASE BACKWARDS - what kind of impression gives that ? It does remind us of a certain company from Redmond, doesn't it ?
Shame on You Apple for this - otherwise good work and go on with Panther.
MacOS 9 stll works JUST fine
Someone please mod this to 'Funny'. They can keep the 5.
This version of Safari is starting to show signs of work on forms and controls. When you press the return key in a form the Submit button now lights up for a second, a subtle indicator to reinforce that the form was actually submitted. On the CSS front, font size specifiers now work in form buttons, but not typeface or weight. When they get form control color-specifiers working that'll be pretty nifty.
-- thinkyhead software and media
Why is the parent post modded as troll? From the looks of this recent update, Apple seems to be only releasing software updates if you are running the absolute latest and greatest version of OS X. This is a forced upgrade scheme, pure and simple, which is the point the parent was trying to make.