From Silicon To Microprocessors
prostoalex writes "Jim Turley from Embedded Systems Programming magazine answers the question of where microprocessors come from. While the public generally knows about the silicon and microprocessor vendors, few can describe the process of turning the beach sand into the latest and greatest several-hundred-dollars-worth CPU."
The microprocessor stork brings them.
Right, mommy?
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That, my friends, is a really unpleasant image.
Then it's sliced into exceptionally thin wafers about 6 to 8 inches (200 to 300mm) across, depending on the diameter of the ingot.
Owwww!!!!
Germany is third world?
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or at least so I gather from the frequency with which the Silicone/Silicon mistake is made. Maybe if computer chips were warm instead of hot, and squeezably soft instead of hard, and bouncy always bouncy people would know more about them.
i think that u just mentioned it... ehh let em suffer we give em jobs, to every upside there is a downside
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I'd always thought these materials were made in hot, dry climates, like Arizona, yet there was a supplier right in my backyard.
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Hellacious spawning vats in the dark dungeons of Intel, AMD, IBM, and Apple.
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*sqlorch*
*SQLORCH*
*Ding!*
The coolest voice ever.
The only thing I don't like about the process is the working conditions: annoyingly loud!
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For those of you that have never been in a clean room, there is a tremendous amount of ambient sound due to the very important air cleaning/circulation system. In order to make the clean room "clean", there can only be so much dust particles in the air. (e.g. 1ppm) (there are actually different classes of clean rooms)
The ramification of this is that one can hardly hear one's voice. Personally, I'm glad I'm not in the semiconductor field
A knowledge of history is almost always a Good Thing. I wonder how many programmers have never heard of Charles Babbage? ("Analytical Engine? What?") You should at least have a decent knowledge of the history of your craft. Call me old-fashioned, but my love of computer science isn't limited by EnterpriseJavaBeans and BiCapitalizedMumboJumbo and whatever buzzword happens to be out today. There's more to it than that.
I have discovered a truly marvelous
If you can visit Santa Clara USA then Intel's museum has a nice introduction to the process of turning sand into chips.
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That's pretty funny. If I hadn't been banned from mod points for disagreeing with the hivemind I'd give you +1, Insightful.
They *do* mention the effects that this has on one's brain - especially with metric conversion. From the article:
Raw silicon is grown into crystal ingots, which look like giant silver bolognas. Then it's sliced into exceptionally thin wafers about 6 to 8 inches (200 to 300mm) across
Ummm... yeah...
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I read the article and find myself actually knowing in advance how silicon chips are made. You see, in the 80ies we had childrens books about computers that covered something more than how to start Word and update Winblows.
a couple of macroprocessors get drunk, start messing around... they wake up the next morning full of regret... next thing you know, there's a new microprocessor for someone to install, dress up in a nice case, feed it RAM, and reboot it when it makes a mess, which will be all the damn time for the first few months...
East Germany was 2.5th world, I seem to recall.
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i worked in a class 1 facility and noise was there, but hardly annoying. nothing near those of other manufacturing facilities.
the latest and greatest several-hundred-dollars-worth CPU.
;-) The CPU's in these are a couple thousand dollars each.
Only if you're buying intel can you get the latest and greatest for only several-hundred-dollars-worth. We call the intel servers at work "tinker-toys" because they are wimpy and cannot get much real work done.
The Alphaserver GS160, the IBM RS/6000, and the Sunfire 12k. Those are the manly servers that do the real work around here. I don't think you can replace fans in these things for "several-hundred-dollars-worth".
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in thrid-woirld countries like korea and germany
Germany is not a third world country! Places like Elbonia are third world countries, where their "computers" are actually Game Boys with 56k modems.
Mod "Overrated" instead of replying "I disagree with you," you coward.
While informative on what it touches on, this doesn't describe what goes into making a chip. It describes how a chip is patterned. Then follows many many diffusion, oxidation, etch, and metallization steps that go between each photoresist mask step. I suppose it makes a good read for someone who wants just a general overview. But it makes it sound like making a chip is just a glorified film development process. I do microfab work, and the lithography steps are the steps we take for granted (mostly -- they still do take effort to get right, but are in general easier then what follows).
What was with that toilet paper squeezing pervert anyway?
Having smaller die sizes is not good just because you can put more dies on a wafer. It is because your yield will improve. Dust/contamination is the real enemey, and bigger dies have an (exponentially or even worse) higher risk of having one dust particle destroying the chip function. Cutting the size with 10% may well lower the production cost by 50%.
.18 to .13) can be a real money saver (next to allowing higher clock rates).
And that is ofcourse why moving to a smaller technology (eg from
From the article:
For an example, let's look at a 200mm silicon wafer, which has about 986cm2 of surface area. That's about the size of a salad plate. Let's say your chips are square (most are) and they measure 10mm on a side?that's 100mm2 per chip. If the silicon wafer was also square you could fit 986 chips on your wafer. Alas, wafers are round so you can really only get about 279 chips on a wafer.
I guess the obvious question, since using squares on a round wafer wastes a certain amount of silicon, is why squares? Why not build a hex grid? That would seem to maximize the usage of the available area.
But then, I suppose cutting them out would be significantly more difficult.
What about triangles, then? Straight lines up and down, and in one (or both) diagonal directions.
On the other hand, someone's already thought of this:
Intel's old i960MX microprocessor was octagonal. It was so big its corners had to be cut off.
So my idea has an obvious flaw. The question is... what is it?
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You leave some silicon under your pillow and the next morning you will find the processor she leaves you. She is a little behind the times, still making Slot 1 types. Stupid bitch.
Technically, East Germany was 2nd World, until unification.
;-) )
The term "3rd World" was coined to describe the rest of the world, after NATO and the Warsaw Pact nations, which were implied to be the first and second worlds respectively.
Although that definition didn't stick, the phrase did, and quickly came to take on the meaning that we all know, since most of the nations it included were desperately poor.
(Here endeth the history lesson
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I thought big screen TVs were "blurry" up close because they had fewer pixels per area. Besides... in this case, you wouldn't be making the image bigger, you would just be making a LOT of tiny images at once. Can someone either explain how his explaination makes sense, or what the real reason is?
"Embedded Systems Programming magazine"
Isn't this a tad specific? Why not a magazine about processors period? Is that too big? Just how much content can you have being specific about Embedded Systems Programming. Seriously, I'm asking.
And if it's about Programming, why is this an article about processors? I'm so lost, and i don't think it's my fault this time. Flame away boys i'm bored.
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Ralph: IBM and Apple were in the closet making processors and I saw one of the processors and then the processor looked at me.
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Sometimes, when a CPU and a CPU socket meet in the middle of a back alley...
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I think he's talking about the fact that focus is consistent on a sphere, not a plane. Since the chips are flat, the image you project on them is only perfectly focused on a circle (the intersection of the perfect-focus sphere with the plane of the wafer). You can see this happen with regular slide-, TV-, or film-projection as well.
It sounds like they focus the center exactly and let it get blurry the further out you go (this is the case where the plane is tangent to the sphere -- a zero-radius circle of focus, which is of course a point). I would think they would set the cicle to be larger in order to get more area of better focus, but maybe having some blurring in the center screws up their designs more.
Dunno, IANAMCFA. (Dare anyone to figure out what that one meant.)
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Hmmm, and all this time I thought 200mm wafers were 8 inches and 300mm wafers were 12 inches. Maybe the author is a former NASA engineer...
And I agree, clean rooms are no fun. Ever trying typing on a plastic-coated miniature keyboard with two pairs of gloves?
They don't use beachsand, that's silicon dioxide (SiO2), also known as quartz.
Pure silicon chunks are actually made from condensing a very pure Silicon gas called Silane. The chunks are broken up, and melted in a very hot furnace, with a crucible made out of quartz(usually). Any doping, or impurities to give the silicon it's different electrical properties are added at this point. Boron (B) is fairly common.
Then, a nice perfect seed crystal of silicon is dipped into the molten silicon which starts to crystalize around the seed crystal. The growing crystal is turned and slowly pulled out of the liquid silicon as it grows to help keep it regular. The result is called a boule, or "the bologna looking thing"
As a side note, the doping is usually too high at the top of the boule, and too low at the end of the boule, so only about the middle 25% is used.
Then it gets sliced into wafers. etc. etc.
There are more than a few nits...
.13u, .18u, or larger.
(1) Silicon is not sand. Sand is silicon dioxide (well, most sand). It needs to be reduced (the oxygen needs to be removed) and purified. And purified. And purified. (I believe Brazilian quartz is actually the preferred stock for silicon dioxide, rather than sand, due to its purity.)
(2) Photo-resist does not need to be electrically conductive. It does need to be capable of resisting attack by whatever chemicals are next in the step (especially the HF). Since they're usually polymers that are either polymerized or depolymerized by the exposure, they generally are not conductive.
(3) Current generation laser steppers are not EUV. (They are UV, maybe DUV, being slightly less than 1/2 the wavelength of visible indigo.)
(4) One could get the impression that each chip on the wafer is processed separately at each step.
(5) Fabs and foundries are related but distinct entities. (I personally have worked in a fab, but never a foundry.)
(6) It's the mask that is imprinted on the wafer's photoresist, not the chip.
(7) Moore's law is incorrectly repeated. This is especially bad because it claims to be correcting the common belief (which it probably is). Moore's law was about the economics of chip density -- the most _cost effective_ density doubles every 18 months.
(8) I've usually heard and talked about individual die and multiple dice. (And breaking up wafers into chips is called dicing.) Maybe others call them (plural) die, but not everyone.
(9) The 200mm wafer area calculations are wrong. A 200mm wafer has a radius of 10cm; the area is therefore (10)^2*pi ~= 310cm^2. So one won't get 986 die from a square wafer and only 279 from a round one.
(10) Lots and lots of companies don't build their chips on the smallest feature sizes possible. Very few can afford to manufacture 90nm chips at this point, so the bulk of chip _designs_ are manufactured at
There are probably many more errors...
RJ
While the article is a good introduction.. I think he omitted an important step in chip fab. IIRC, after you expose the photoresist and wash away the exposed sections, you need to pour a special acid which seeps into the channels of the photoresist and etches the patern into the silicon. Then you can remove the photoresist layer and move on.
As he explained it he never mentions how the pattern get burned into the silicon. Tsk tsk.
But then, I suppose cutting them out would be significantly more difficult.
What about triangles, then? Straight lines up and down, and in one (or both) diagonal directions.
Well, NVidia discovered rotating them 45 degrees give them a diamond instead of a square. Think they're onto something?
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More to the point, why are humans required at all in the manufacturing process. I would expect the entire manufacturing and testing process, from sand to plastic-encased chip, to be automated enough that people in bunny suits should not be needed. Maybe they are needed to replace the robots and fill up the supplies, but other than that, what do they do?
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I of course meant 2nd World AND very poor. Hence the average, or 2.5th world. However, I believe E.Germany has made an impressive recovery and is no longer either. Oh well, it's just a joke anyhow.
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"Where do microprocessors come from, Daddy?" That's an awkward question we all must answer at some stage in our careers. What mysterious process converts elemental silicon into elemental forces like Intel's Itanium or Motorola's PowerPC? Let us explore the wonder that is semiconductor creation.
Shouldn't that include IBM?
the process of turning the beach sand into the latest and greatest
I always wondered why people bragged about their new computer and made the comment about leaving mine in the dust!
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Yeah well when I live in Los Angeles...
Well, it was 3rd Reich, for a time...
I have something in common with Stephen Hawking...
The article mentions that, with co-workers encased in bunny suits, you have to look at their eyes to tell people apart. When I worked in a fab, I noticed I became very attuned to people's body shapes and ways of moving. After working there for a while, I could subconsciously identify co-workers at the opposite end of a shopping mall, simply by the way they walked.
Because most of the cost of chip making is in the equipment, not the silicon, your profitability depends entirely on volume. It's fairly accurate to say that the first chip costs you $2 billion to make; all the chips after that are free.
I think you`ll find that sensible people apply the "matching" principle when dealing with the cost of equipment. You spread the cost over its useful life in order to _match_ to expenditure with revenues. The method outlined would produce skewed results - which is why it is not used in the preparation of accounts.
"is basically purified beach sand" - since when is deoxidation considered purification? "about 6 to 8 inches (200 to 300mm)" - make that 8 - 12 inches... slightly sad that such trivial mistakes/oversimplicications are made in an otherwise good article...
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Unless you are talking about a clean room from the late 70s or the 80s, its more likely that the noise you are hearing is from the exhaust systems sucking fumes from processing equipment.
The materials used to produce semiconductors are extremely deadly to humans as are many of the process by products.
Pretty much every processing tool has multiple exhaust connections which remove potentially harmful fumes to a scrubbing system on the roof that removes the toxic chemicals which are then treated and disposed.
There are other noises from the tools and support equipment but I assume you thought it was the laminar air flow filtering system because it sounded like high volume air movement. They do move high volumes of air but you don't want the air moving too fast as it will stir up any particles that may be present in the room.
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oh, I do work in a clean room, have since 1989.
You are correct sir.
And, if it's history education we're after... Sauvy, a French demographer, is generally credited with the term. He wanted to convey how Third World countries are exploited by the first and second. It was an analogy dating to the French Revolution when the first two estates (clergy and nobility) exploited the third (the commoners).
In a semiconductor factory yield is a measure of the percentage of good die versus the total number of potential die on a wafer. It is not the measure of the total number of die produced from a wafer and is therefore not directly affected by the size of the die.
.35 microns the same process was destroying die because the tiny particles it introduced suddenly were big enough to start creating a significant number of shorts. Needless to say I had my work cut out for me as the equipment required some reengineering along with the process.
You are correct that smaller die sizes produce more die per wafer, however, shrinking the structures in a die's circuit make it more susceptible to failure due to contamination. Therefore you are actually wrong when you state that a smaller die will yield more.
You can think about it this way. If you have two parallel conducting poly lines that are seperated by an insulator that is 1 inch wide and you drop a penny on the insulator it is likely that the insulator will still work because the penny, which is the contaminant, is not large enough to short across the insulator. If you take that insulator and shrink it down to 1/4 of an inch and drop the same contaminating penny on it there is a chance that it will short the two poly conductors across the insulator and destroy your circuit. Take that same circuit and shrink it to 0.01 inch lines and suddenly your process that ran wonderfully is destroying every die on the wafer because the penny is guaranteed to short the circuit every time.
So what you can derive from this is two things. First, the smaller contaminating particles are the less likely they are to destroy a die and may actually be acceptable, the smaller a die gets the more likely it will be destroyed by smaller particles and you plunge into a never ending battle of cleaning up smaller and smaller sized particles.
Speaking from experience I watched a process that ran for 10+ years and worked fine. Once the geometries in the die shrunk to
burnin
Your ideas are good, thinking out of the box, and check this out for thinking out of the box, spherical semiconductor circuits.
Ball Technologies
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And I agree, clean rooms are no fun. Ever trying typing on a plastic-coated miniature keyboard with two pairs of gloves?
That sounds awkward but you ever tried typing 2000+ lines of hex code on a ZX81?
Santa brought me one of those, a rubiks cube, a metal detector and the 1982 Guinness Book of World Records (Train spotter's edition I think) for christmas. I think my mum must have told him I was doing poorly in school or something. I do recall though, I specifically asked Santa, at his grotto in the local Co-op, for a BMX, a swingball, a skateboard and the single "Pass The Dutchie" by Musical Youth.Regardless of all of that, I came to love my proper, if somewhat temperamental, little computer and after many a marathon session of learning Sinclair Basic and even some Z80 machine code I grew up to become, even if I say so myself, a very proficient IT Manager/Database Developer.
It does make me think though, if Santa had actually brought me what I wanted, then how dramatically different my life might have been...And, I also can't help but think...
what a fat, white bearded and overly jolly bastard Santa really is.
Smart comment, but of course its already been done.
;) Just ask a Perkin Elmer technician.
Perkin Elmer made a big business of selling scan aligners. They use a one to one mask and scan an arc of light across the two for exposure. Or more accurately, the mask and wafer are scanned through the arc of light.
This works but has its own problems. And you may find this surprising but the biggest problem is focus.
The greatest difficulty with a large mask is getting the wafer perfectly flat across the entire surface. You end up with bad focus spots all over the wafer. But this is okay for larger geometries so the scan aligners are still in service in some processes.
Now there are several reasons why a stepper with a small mask works better but your going to be shocked to discover that better focus is one of them.
But it makes sense when you think about it. Since you are exposing a very small area on the wafer you can focus on just that small area and you are likely to avoid focus problems across the exposed area because it is smaller. Each time you step to a new area to expose you refocus thus reducing the problems with high and low areas across the wafer. Since you can getter better focus with a stepper you can expose much smaller lines.
No more stoning the chuck.
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soon after the photo resist is developed it goes through an etch process which is usually a dip in a nice acid bath, or a shower in a nice acid spray, or my favorite, a plasma treatment in a vacuum chamber with RF or microwave and wonderful gases like Sulfur Hexafluoride, Hydrogen Bromide, Chlorine, Carbon Tetra-Fluoride, etc.
But this may not always be the case. It may be headed for an implant step. A nice electron beam zaps the wafer while it is laced with boron, or arsenic, etc.
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* when cutting the ingots, people almost ALWAYS use a ring-blade; where the blade is on the inner edge of a ring larger than the ingot, and ingot is sliced. extra points for anyone who know why.**
* ingots are not always "grown." (think dipping candles) there is also a technique where you start off with a polychrystaline ingot and use localized heating to progressively monocrystalize it by localized melting. The technique is similar to one of the methods of removing impurities from iron bars.
* CMP is damn cool. I mean, it's nice and all hearing about "polish to within an atom" precision, but if you take a polished wafer, it would make the best mirror you'd ever own. Granted silicon is not the perfect reflective surface, but you won't get a mirror more accuratly shows every feature on your face. =) Otoh, when dusts and stuff DO get into the CMP machines, though, it scratches the wafer. Though you don't see it, when you trace failures on the wafer the failing gates would generally follow an arc shape (corresponding to the wafer and polishing head rotation), and from that you get the CMP machine checked out.
random junk I thought that was kinda neat.
** I used to know about 3 years ago but then I forgot. so don't expect like a correct answer or nothing.
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yea he completely skipped over the whole process of making semiconductor matirial. The silicon used it not pure silicon its doped to add impurities to change the molecular stucture of the matirial and produce the two differnt varieties of silicon semi conductor n type and p type
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You leave some sand under your pillow and the next morning your boobs are one size bigger! If you want it bigger then repeat the cycle. You see, Dolly Parton ran this cycle for 5 days.
The best planning can be done after the project completes.
I think someones processor just turned into a pile of sand!
I work in a fab and a lot of what is said in that article is wrong! 200mm - 300mm is 8 inch to 12 inch, do the math. Also, the yellow light is to keep the photoresist from getting exposed. However, that's old technology, the yellow light is no longer needed because the photoresist has moved to higher frequencies. I don't want to go on about how bad that article is, but it is.
All the ingots I've ever seen (and I live right by the Motorola Museum, free admission WOOHOO!) were dipped like caramel apples. They end up looking pretty neat when completed. Like a wierd condom.
I won't get any extra points for this becuase I'm having trouble imagining what you're saying, but if you mean the radius of the ring blade is greater than the diameter of the ingot, that's so it can slice the wafer in one clean cut.
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there are many lawsuits about birth defects and cancer from 'clean' room workers
hmm I thought my explanation is a bit inadequate.
Imagine Xena's little tossing ring thing. Xena's tossing ring thing has the blade edge on the outer edge of the ring.
reverse that, and put the blade on the INNER edge of the ring.
make sure diameter of inner edge is larger than ingot diameter.
put ingot through the center of the inner-blade ring cutter.
proceed to cut.
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The inner black area is the blade. stick what you want to cut through the hole and proceed to cut.
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