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Toy Penguins and Male Egos Drove Linux Acceptance

An anonymous reader writes "Germany's local and city councils have been pioneering the migration from Windows to Linux. Now, one of the IT staff behind one move has revealed how they persuaded workers to accept the changes. Stuffed toy penguins and Linux t-shirts helped to create an open-source love-in at the council offices, and they got a senior chairwoman to demonstrate the new system to the troops. Male ego stopped anyone claiming that Linux was difficult to use, once they'd seen that the 'weaker sex' could master it :)"

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  1. "the 'weaker' sex?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Glad to see Germany's just as progressive as it was back in the day. /sarcasm

    1. Re:"the 'weaker' sex?" by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Funny

      Glad to see Germany's just as progressive as it was back in the day. /sarcasm

      Hey, they're making progress!

      At least they didn't finish the demo by invading Poland.

  2. Theres a name for this.... by eddiegee · · Score: 5, Funny

    and it called MARKETING!!!

    1. Re:Theres a name for this.... by djeaux · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Marketing is something Linux needs. Of course, that's the weak point for a lot of open source.

      Tux toys & t-shirts sound trivial, but they loosen people up about something that a lot of non-tech types think is "hard". Setting up the "sexist" argument ("Even the women can use this OS") is even appropriate if that's what it takes to make decision-makers come around.

      <OFFTOPIC>

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    2. Re:Theres a name for this.... by robslimo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...and damned good marketing too.

      Somehow it leaves me feeling a little uneasy, though. I bet I'd be influenced by the same or similar tactics, even though I've read this article. It leaves my ego a bit worse for the wear to know that I (hell, we!) am so easily swayed by savvy marketing techniques.

      Example: even if janet jackson winds up paying fines for her Super Bowl stunt, I'll bet she gets exactly what she intended in terms of sales and publicity. The people she pissed off were never her customers anyway.

    3. Re:Theres a name for this.... by Killswitch1968 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Despite all the claims of 'monopoly' scarcely anyone steps back and REALLY analyzes why open source hasn't taken hold. And the answer inevitably leads to little or no marketing. A good product that no one knows about won't be used.

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      Corporations: your universal scapegoat for all society's ills.
    4. Re:Theres a name for this.... by jafac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't blame the marketer for putting himself in the marketee's mindframe.

      The sexist attitude exists in the males they're trying to convince. Not necessarily the marketer. The technique was actually trying to change this perception by preying on the mistaken attitude.

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    5. Re:Theres a name for this.... by spacecowboy420 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wonder if it would help the decision makers to know that not only does my 8 yr old girl use linux, she prefers mandrake over fedora. Not that it is saying much, but she installed and updated Mandrake 9.2 this weekend with very little guidance. If she can do it, so should any grown man. Man, I beam with pride everytime I see my little girl use the command line.

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      ymmv
  3. f'ing brilliant! by JimmytheGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not that it's a great sales tactic: "You don't need that wimpy ease-of-use"

    Gotta keep the spin "Easy enough for *her*, so you can certainly handle it."

    1. Re:f'ing brilliant! by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Linux: Strong enough for a server, GUI balanced for a desktop.

      --
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  4. booth girls by frankmu · · Score: 5, Funny

    so we need to send out troops of booth girls with Knoppix in hand to shame the microsofties into submission. they can stop by my office first.

    --
    Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
    1. Re:booth girls by Trigun · · Score: 5, Funny

      Although the term "SCSI" comes to mind as well.

    2. Re:booth girls by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or we can try Alice's (from Dilbert) methodology: Instead of booth babes to attract people to your booth get RMS and/or Linus (Dilbert, Wally) to stand in front of Microsoft's booth wearing nothing but a string of floss.

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  5. Male ego driving Linux? by bad+enema · · Score: 4, Funny

    Where have I seen this before? :)

  6. Reverse psychology... by el-spectre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is hardly new... all it has ever taken to get a guy to do something is say something like "oh, if it's too heavy for you I can ask someone else"

    'cept for those of us who learned the game and call the bluff with "sure, go right ahead"

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    "Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
    1. Re:Reverse psychology... by Titusdot+Groan · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I always help -- I guess I "get" the concept that I can lift more than almost any woman -- something about testosterone and being a lumberjack in my youth.

      But if you can't lift more than they can, by all means send them along to somebody that can.

      Oh, and just because they are using a trick on you doesn't mean they don't need your help. Just smile and say "Sure, but next time just ask instead of playing the mind games." Being a jerk doesn't allow you to change behaviour -- or get dates for that matter.

    2. Re:Reverse psychology... by stor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      you don't want every other women within earshot saying "asshole" under her breath

      Actually, I do. Assholes get laid. "Nice guys" don't. Sorry.


      Speaking as a "nice guy" I call bullshit.

      Every woman will have a different set of criteria for finding you attractive or unattractive.

      I really ought to write a book or at least a HOWTO. In the meantime let me suggest two behaviours that will help:

      1. Honesty. This is a challenge: the most important thing is to be honest with yourself which is _really_ difficult. I'm lucky enough to have been with women who've told me honestly what I needed to improve on. I'm still working on it ;)
      2. Assertiveness. From my experience most (not all) women don't like a guy to be too submissive. They like a dude to have a spine. This doesn't mean you should be nasty and forceful, just don't be a doormat. Some women like to wear the pants in a relationship but most seem to not appreciate being forced into that position.

      Cheers
      Stor

      --
      "Yeah well there's a lot of stuff that should be, but isn't"
  7. WHAT?!?!? by FortKnox · · Score: 4, Funny

    You mean you converted a group of people to Linux without shouting things like "RTFM!!!"???

    Maybe we should rethink our strategies...

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    Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
  8. Commercialism? by MoebiusStreet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This sounds suspiciously like how the world of commercial software works :o

  9. Geek girl? by kefoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    A woman who uses Linux? I'm in love.

    1. Re:Geek girl? by Our+Man+In+Redmond · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sorry, my wife uses Linux and you can't have her. Besides, she already fell for that trick once.

      --
      Someone you trust is one of us.
  10. It's brilliant by The+I+Shing · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To rework a famous old saying, no-one ever went broke overestimating the impact of appealing to the male ego.

    That's brilliant marketing to use a female rep to demo a product to a bunch of men.

    A lot of companies would do well to follow that example, I think.

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    1. Re:It's brilliant by pegr · · Score: 4, Funny

      " Appeal to her inner feminist by telling her "women are superior men in every way" and she'll eat right out of your hand."

      Yup, sincerity is the hardest part. Once you can fake that, you're golden...

  11. Women love Linux too :) by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://www.nccomp.com/images/linux-girl.jpg
    pic

  12. Old habits die hard... by lowe0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And people wonder where sexism in technology comes from.

    Using it to your advantage is not the same thing as working to eliminate it.

  13. I hate male ego by 31415926535897 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I should probably submit this anonymously*, but what the heck.

    I don't know if it is in our genes, or if it's a product of our environment, but male ego resulting from male dominance even affects me a ton.

    I was running on a treadmill earlier this week, and there was a girl who was running on one next to me at the same time, at roughly the same speed. There was _no_ way I was going to let myself stop before she did--because she was a girl. And I recognized this as I was running.

    Seems kind of silly, I know, but that's what was in my head.

    *I've heard that posting anonymously at slashdot isn't really, so what's the difference?

    1. Re:I hate male ego by corbettw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gee, are you suggesting that certain human behavior is hardwired into our psyche? Just like every single other mammal on the planet? And you're just now realizing this??

      You can either accept that you're an animal with instincts, and learn how to control them/live with them, or you can deny your basic nature and keep banging your head against the wall. The choice is yours. The upshot on the former is, everyone else is governed by those same instincts, so you can use them to help get people to do what you want them to.

      --
      God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
    2. Re:I hate male ego by queen+of+everything · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I do too...

      I don't like that if a girl can do it, any man can...I can do a lot of things with a computer that many men can't do. I work hard to learn all that I can and I don't like that when I am up against a man, everyone automatically listens to what he says over me. I know what I'm talking about, I've been using computers longer than everyone that I know. When I go into a computer store all the clerks swarm to help the poor, defenseless, dumb girl buy expensive things for her computer. It really bugs me. Don't question my intelligence, I know what I'm doing.

      I think its an excellent way to market linux to a bunch of men, but it still bugs me that people think like that.

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      "Wisdom is not a product of schooling but of the life-long attempt to acquire it." -Albert Einstein
    3. Re:I hate male ego by pyros · · Score: 4, Funny

      I had a similar experience, only it was with two people: a tatooed woman and a midget. The midget didn't last too long, but he surprised me. I felt pretty relieved when the woman got off the treadmill. I quickly got off my cross-trainer and felt even more relieved when I saw that she had merely moved to a cycle after getting off the treadmill. Then I realised I was secretly competing with a tatooed lady and a midget. I promptly shrunk my hands, bathed in cabbage, and joined a carnival.

  14. Re:Which one? by maulwurf · · Score: 4, Informative

    according to ct-magazine they are using SuSE-Linux. german article: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/34859

  15. Hmm.... by MachDelta · · Score: 5, Funny

    These booth girls... if i'm new to Linux, will they 'mount' my 'hard drive'?
    I'd be sure to try switching to Linux then! ;)

    1. Re:Hmm.... by Bostik · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just out of curiosity, what would be the mount options?

      -oremount,rw,async,nodev,nosuid,noauto ?
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  16. If BSD weren't dying... by gUmbi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If BSD weren't dying it'd be presented by this chick

  17. The Perception is the Reality by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oddly enough, I recently saw this in Doctorow's "East Coast Tribe", but this was something I learned when I first worked in an IT department.

    It doesn't matter if your systems are uber-fast. It doesn't matter if they have a low error rate. It doesn't matter if they are made to be user friendly.

    If the users of those systems perceive they are slow, inefficient, hard to use, great, best machines ever - whatever they percieve, that is the reality.

    So a good IT staff does two things:

    1. Work on their C. I. A. pieces.
    2. Work to help the users percieve their systems as being C. I. A. good.

    Let's face it - this is why Microsoft is on 90-odd% of all desktop systems out there: people percieve their systems as working, as easy to use, and that everything else is inferior whether that is true or not.

    Once you convince them that a Linux or Mac desktop works just as well - if not faster and more securely - on their desk as a Windows box, and that they can use the same kinds of applications, you're set.

    I've had IT guys whom I respect greatly tell me they'd love to switch to "OS X", but don't want to because they fear the "learning curve". It's not a "noobie" issue at all - perception clouds everything.

    And Brauner made the right calls. To those who had problems, he showed them how it was easy. To those who thought he was being mean, he displayed himself as a "fun guy" with shirts and toys. To those who thought the system was "hard" he showed a secretary doing her job with ease - the person that all my programming teachers taught me to program interface for, since "if a secretary can run it, anybody can".

    Excellent work on his part for recognizing that the human element is as important as the technical one at times.

  18. Women can use Linux now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's it, I'll switch to hurd.

  19. But consider this ... by psycho_tinman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can just see the marketing people on the other side *cough* those convicted monopolists, remember them ? the guys who claim the GPL should be stamped out ? *cough* making hay with this.. ?

    "Ooh, we don't manipulate you", they'll coo. "We just give you a product that you know and is easy to use". And heck, if that doesn't work, they'll just add a whopping discount on top of it to seal the bargain.

    Maybe I'm just egotistic myself, but if I heard that I had been manipulated into something I wasn't sure about, and if I heard about it later on (with a "ha ha ha. owned!" comment, to boot), I'd be quite wary of the next thing that particular guy tried to foist on me.

    Which brings me to the question.. does OSS really need marketshare like this ? It's just me, probably, but I'd prefer people make an informed choice rather than go "hey, why don't we use this because we don't want to be outdone/look foolish". If you can convince people to install it that easily, they'll just as easily be swayed by the next marketing gimmick, and which side (OSS or the other guys) have more marketing muscle ?

  20. Deodorant joke, anyone? by Shazow · · Score: 4, Funny

    New linux slogan!

    "Easy enough for a woman, made for a man."

    =8-]

    - shazow

    1. Re:Deodorant joke, anyone? by smack_attack · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Easy enough for a woman, made by boys in their mom's basements." /cliche

  21. have some fun! by 23 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    so what's the problem? Dude, don't take yourself so seriously! :-)

    when I'm out running along a well used path in my town, there is no fucking way I can live with a woman running infront of me. At times this put me close to a heart-attack. But I have all the more fun because this kind of stuff. Same thing, when I try to overtake someone who is barely slower than me. heh.

    Man, this is oart of the fun of life! As long as you realize, that your life does not depend on being cooler/stronger/faster/whatever I consider it good-natured fun. After all, where would be in technology without some good ol' testosterone-driven competition?

    plus, women have some fun --uhm, let's call them characteristics to laugh about

  22. Sex Sells by Slowtreme · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anyone watch that "The Apprentice" show. Two groups of 8 people, men on one side, women on the other. The first four tasks, the women stumbled around like lost puppies for 3 of them and yet won every time. The catch, they gave out thier phone number, while selling Lemonade for 10 bucks a cup. The guys couldn't sell jack.

    It's not surprizing that having a woman demo Linux, people are interested in learning.

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    1. Re:Sex Sells by cubicledrone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Anyone watch that "The Apprentice" show.

      Yeah. I've never seen anything more tragic and discouraging on television. The most amazing thing about that show is that it almost perfectly mirrors the modern workplace.

      For that matter, so does Survivor: a group of people get together and decide who to ostracize. A fine example for society.

      --
      Business isn't willing to pay for products, innovation and careers, so we get brands, mortgage commercials and layoffs.
    2. Re:Sex Sells by GoofyBoy · · Score: 4, Funny

      >The most amazing thing about that show is that it almost perfectly mirrors the modern workplace.

      The ratio to good-looking women to men was 2 to 1.

      I, for one, welcome our new modern workplace....

      --
      The surprise isn't how often we make bad choices; the surprise is how seldom they defeat us.
  23. Amusing by sir_cello · · Score: 4, Funny


    Good to know that Linux wins on technical merit and avoids the kind of gimmicks used by other big name software vendors ...

  24. Same in US, but unspoken by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Not that it's a great sales tactic: "You don't need that wimpy ease-of-use"

    Gotta keep the spin "Easy enough for *her*, so you can certainly handle it."

    Yeah, well despite all the lipservice for equality, there's still plenty of cavemen who think only a man can do such-and-such. A remarkable comment on futuristic magazine ads, back in the 50's, projected the lady of the house still doing all the work, just with more high-tech, work-saving tools. Watch day-time TV and the message that men and women have the same roles from back then is still there.

    Good leverage. Works with racism as a motivator, too. "Hey, that (insert ethnicity here) can do pretty good with a (insert tool here), guess I better be able to do as well or my arguments of everyone being inferior to (insert own ethnic group here) falls flat."

    Americans tend to have a lot of levers, thanks to lingering puritanical attitudes (watch the super bowl half time show? ;-) Careful how you try to apply them at work, though. The spin that "she can do it, so anyone should be" could land your butt on the sidewalk.

    PHB's OTOH could probably care less. Hit them with the true TCO and they're half in the pocket. Problem I've run into is most have this dinosaur attitude that Microsoft makes everything easier. If only...

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    1. Re:Same in US, but unspoken by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Yeah, well despite all the lipservice for equality, there's still plenty of cavemen who think only a man can do such-and-such.

      The American record for the mile is 3:47.69; the women's record is 4:16.71. That is worse then the men's worldwide record of 1895.

      There's plenty of thing men can do that women do more poorly, and plenty of things that women can do that men do more poorly.

  25. Re:So Just how screwed up are these companies?!?! by corbettw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about this approach... "Use the damned software!". Really, I dont know why people seem to think they should have complete freedom on a computer at work. The company owns the machine, and the company chooses the software... so long as the company involved the proper employees in evaluating which is the best software(s) to use... thats it, end of story. Employees really shouldnt have a choice one way or another.

    Ever heard the phrase "you attract more flies with honey than vinegar?" Honestly, I'd rather work for someone who is respectful of my concerns and seeks to answer them (even in a devious way), than someone who just scoffs at them and says "Shut up and get back to work." Even the military, the only employer who can throw you in jail or have you shot for not doing what you're told, tends to be relatively light handed in how it encourages its members to use new systems.

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    God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
  26. The only thing stopping Linux... by Teckla · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For a long time, I've been a huge proponent of ease-of-use. While I respected Linux from a technical perspective, I've long been dissapointed in it from an ease-of-use perspective.

    That all changed the last time I tried Linux. Knoppix, to be exact. It was jaw-droppingly impressive to me: the hardware recognition; the ease-of-use; the clean interface (KDE, in this case, though I suspect GNOME is just as nice); everything was polished and smooth.

    And then it hit me, there are only two things stopping Linux from making deep inroads into the desktop market these days:

    1. Drivers, drivers, drivers. Not enough hardware makers are bothering with drivers for Linux. Kudos to all the Linux folks writing drivers, but Linux is always at least a step or two behind. However, this problem may be solved if the project that allows Windows drivers to work under Linux is successful.

    2. Inertia. Everyone uses Windows, therefore...everyone keeps using Windows.

    My hope is that the low cost of Linux will keep driving people into its loving arms.

    So...how does this post apply to the topic at hand? Simple: anyone who has given modern distributions of Linux a chance already knows what I know: Linux is just as easy to use as Windows these days (or close enough that it doesn't matter), and the only thing holding Linux back now are the two items I listed above. Anyone who claims modern distributions of Linux are too hard to use probably shouldn't be using computers at all.

    -Teckla

    1. Re:The only thing stopping Linux... by tuffy · · Score: 5, Insightful
      1. Drivers, drivers, drivers. Not enough hardware makers are bothering with drivers for Linux. Kudos to all the Linux folks writing drivers, but Linux is always at least a step or two behind. However, this problem may be solved if the project that allows Windows drivers to work under Linux is successful.

      Frankly, I don't want most hardware makers to be writing lots of Linux drivers. I want them to build their stuff to use documented protocols (USB/Firewire/IDE/etc.) correctly so that their hardware Just Works everywhere. That way, I can pick up a piece of new hardware and have it run without any obnoxious CD loading, file downloading or kernel module installation whatsoever.

      That's the sort of ease-of-use we should be encouraging.

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      Ita erat quando hic adveni.

  27. Well, root, on my Linux box, receives no spam... by mark0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... so no penis enlargement ads... Therefore, when I'm using Linux, I know my penis is not in need of enlargement. Reason enough for adoption for me...

  28. What's black and white with poka-dots? by RLW · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does Tux need a Tuxette? What does a penguin in a bikini look like?

    1. Re:What's black and white with poka-dots? by worst_name_ever · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dude, if there was a "+1 Terrifying" you'd definitely get it from me.

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  29. Re:So Just how screwed up are these companies?!?! by Snad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Deciphering all the typos in that post was an interesting experience...

    Regardless, the main point - that a corporation is a dictatorship - is factually correct. However, if you treat your employees as if they have no valuable opinions on the tools they will be using to do their jobs, then you will lose buy in, and have a revolt.

    The employees aren't exactly going to be turning up at their manager's door with pitch-forks and flaming torches, but they are going to be grumbling, moaning, bitching, whining, and likely looking for another job. Successful companies retain staff by ensuring they feel valued.

    Basically, treating your employees like shit gets you nothing but shit employees. Acting in a dictatorial manner simply because you can simply creates more problems than it solves. It is vital in large scale change projects to ensure that people at least feel like they've been consulted, even if you end up ignoring everything they've said.

    The productivity lost in replacing numbers of employees would be far more costly than simply throwing some toy penguins and a blonde bimbo into the equation.

    I am, of course, assuming that once the buy in was created by the "weaker sex" and toy penguin strategy there is sufficient training and backup in place - without which the entire project is doomed to failure anyway.

  30. Women... by derphilipp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Women...
    harder to understand than klingon,
    harder to handle than SAP,
    harder to resist than an open telnet port...

    Ain't women what we all do this for ?

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  31. You know what that means? by gosand · · Score: 5, Funny
    That's it, I'll switch to hurd.

    The number of people using hurd just doubled!

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    My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.

  32. This is a great day by The+Bungi · · Score: 5, Funny
    Someone has just come up with step 2:
    1. Write free software
    2. Promote using techie bimbo and assortment of stuffed toys (was: ???)
    3. Profit!
    A great day indeed.
  33. B29 Strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A similar strategy was used in WW2 to get pilots to accept the B29 bomber, which was considered difficult to fly.
    The male pilots decided that it was flyable when a crew of female pilots were trained to fly it.

  34. Realistic demographic of NYC, actually by lysium · · Score: 4, Funny
    The ratio to good-looking women to men was 2 to 1.

    Welcome to New York City! I am one of six straight men in an office of 400 (Facilities staff not taken into account). It truly is refreshing working with so many women.

    However, two points worth taking into account:

    • *Half are neurotic. Terribly, terribly neurotic.

    • *Most of the rest are killers looking for someone far above your earning potential.

    So come on over! You'll have a great time dating around here.

    ==---------==

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    Together, we will drive the rats from the tundra.
  35. The name for this isn't MARKETING. by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's EMBARRASSING.

    Just a few minutes ago, Aunt Tilley taught me how to compile my 1st kernel, & when I asked her a question, she refused to answer. I can't remember what she said exactly, but was something to do with man pages, howtos & Google.