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Digital Oscars Awarded

prostoalex writes "MSNBC covers the Academy's Scientific and Technical Awards, which generally take place before the Oscars, but recognize companies and individuals that helped the advancement of film-making with technology. This year's winners include DigiDesign, the creator of Pro Tools audio package, Bill Tondreau from Kuper Controls for robotic camera systems and Peter D. Parks, with a lifetime achievement award."

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  1. So how do you award folk by Tandoori+Haggis · · Score: 5, Funny

    in Hex or Binary?

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    1. Re:So how do you award folk by c1ay · · Score: 3, Funny
      I nominate Darl McBride for the Tallest Tale of the year...

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    2. Re:So how do you award folk by Dukael_Mikakis · · Score: 3, Funny

      They don't get an Oscar ... they get an ASCII-char.

      Okay, horrible pun.

  2. Does software count? by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 5, Informative

    Too bad they make no mention of the rendering software(s), etc. used in films like LOTR and ROTK. Many times its the softwares that drive the new hardware discoveries and advancements as was the case with the movie Titanic. And with all the Linux rendering farms being used these days, I'd expect at least some mention of the softwares powering them.

    1. Re:Does software count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Massive was not only nominated, but it won. Did you read the article?

    2. Re:Does software count? by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 2, Informative

      My bad... as many have pointed out, Massive won for my main rant... they won for rendering in ROTK. I guess I sped read a bit too fast. As the saying goes, "the devil is in the details".

    3. Re:Does software count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      They don't mention it in the article but Massive, the software used to do the battle scenes (amongst other things), won a Scientific and Engineering award:

      http://radio.weblogs.com/0102385/2004/01/29.html#a 509
      http://www.oscars.org/scitech/2003/winners.html

    4. Re:Does software count? by MidnightBrewer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Massive is not rendering software, but crowd-simulation software. As for rendering, that was most likely done in RenderMan, which has been around for forever and a day, and therefore has already garnered all the accolades it can long ago.

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  3. Real Winners by PimpDaddie · · Score: 3, Funny

    We all know that the real winners were all the geeks that got to hang with Jennifer Garner for the night. Yuh!

  4. Where's McGiver? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    He most certainly contributed to technology in films!

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    1. Re:Where's McGiver? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      McGiver? Is that the guy who runs around giving people stuff?

      Or did you mean MacGyver as in the show about a guy with duct tape?

    2. Re:Where's McGiver? by ziggles · · Score: 2, Informative

      McGiver? Who the hell is that? If you mean MacGyver that's the worst spelling of it I've ever seen. And it doesn't make any sense. What does MacGyver have to do with technology in films? He used very basic items in clever ways to get out of a jam. And it was a television show anyway.

      Although I did see this episode a couple nights ago where the Phoenix Foundation (which MacGyver worked for, in case you didn't know) was going to restore some old silent films. That's about as close as MacGyver came to film technology.

  5. It is a shame by UnidentifiedCoward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is a shame really that these people do not receive more recognition for their work. Their contribution is in some cases ground breaking. But since it is not "interesting" they do not get any air time.

    As anybody who uses Pro Tools will tell you, it is the end all be all when it comes to the audio spectrum. They defenitely deserved the recognition. And regardless of what you may think of LotR, you have to give props to the Massive project.

    Kudos to you.

    1. Re:It is a shame by dilvie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have used protools. I think they deserved that recognition in the mid 90's, when they were really doing new and innovative things, but the most of their recent cool developments have happenned in the control equipment, rather than the software itself -- hell, protools on OS X was starting to look like vaporware to many of us, it took them so long to get it working.

      In the mean-time, many other companies have done a lot of cool stuff in the audio industry that actually is new and innovative, especially in terms of software and equipment that costs less than $5k.

      Most of the really cool innovation has come from the price drops that have made it possible to build an entire movie production studio for less than $20k -- including everything you need to record, mix, and post produce audio, quality cameras, and affordable NLE software.

      Where is the mention of that? The garage studio revolution has arrived -- the key products in that revolution should be the ones recieving the awards this year... so where are they?

    2. Re:It is a shame by wasthere · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The problem with the credit is it can belong to more than just the people getting named.

      3 Fairlight Instruments guys got awards too. One of them, Chris Alfred carried on from the work I (and a Chris Prall) did, but we don't get a mention... and we started it..

      See:
      http://www.users.bigpond.com/adriansbruce/ tech/

    3. Re:It is a shame by Dukael_Mikakis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It is too bad, but it will continue to be like this (as an afterthought or, more aptly, foreword) because movies are regarded primarily as "artistic achievements", when they are as much technical achievements.

      When people watch ROTK's technically amazing battle scenes the instinctive thought is how beautiful and lifelike and well-conceived the battle is and not necessarily how it was done (something most people don't give a thought to). It's all "Those Oliphants are kick-ass" and not "I wonder how many polygons or what sort of wireframe", etc.

      So people applaud Jackson and perhaps the writers for conceiving the battle scenes so beautifully rather than the tech artists and technology for rendering it (as important, but not "artistic"). It's because (and perhaps naturally so) we are a culture so obsessed with entertainment that the acting, etc. are the primary awards. I mean, pretending to be an older woman still with some sex appeal (Diane Keaton) is more of a headliner award than rendering those battle scenes? Perhaps, and perhaps not, but you (and especially the /. crowd) have to admit some technical achievements are much more impressive than the acting ones.

      It's a shame because technology's purpose is really to hide itself, to absolutely convince you that it isn't there, that the movie is a whole experience, and so it often gets disregarded as people become immersed in the wonder of it. Despite what everybody says about actors' purposes being to hide themselves and disappear (and likewise hide themselves in a similar manner as technology) I'm not sure if that's actually the goal. Actors are intent on getting noticed and crying out and reacting with the magnitude of their emotion. To be seen. In fact, if you see some older movies (and to some extent modern movies) the acting ("method acting"? IANAA) is very over-wrought with glares and articulated gestures and the like, not to convince you that it's real, but to convince you of the emotion. I.e. if I am angry I would make this subtle gesture, but since I want you to know I am angry, I'll make this blatant gesture.

      Controversial statement: Special effects are more about acting than acting.

      "The greatest trick the devil ever did was convincing everybody that he didn't exist." Thrown in as a gratuitous Usual Suspects quote.

    4. Re:It is a shame by Jim+Starx · · Score: 2, Interesting
      As anybody who uses Pro Tools will tell you, it is the end all be all when it comes to the audio spectrum.

      Not quite. Anyone truly involved with the audio industry can tell you that while Pro Tools is amazing and many arguments can be made that it's the best DAW out there, it is far from being the end all be all. Pro Tools has one or two major flaws. Programs like Logic are arguably just as good or better and programs like Nuendo are catching up quickly. I love Pro Tools. I own it and I work in more then one studio that uses it, I believe it's the best, but its far from perfect.

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  6. details by gearheadsmp · · Score: 4, Informative

    Among those honored with plaques were Kinoton GmbH for its high-speed studio projector; a team from Eastman Kodak Co. for developing an anti-static layer on film that survives processing; Stephen Regelous for developing Massive, the software used to create tens of thousands of warriors for the "Lord of the Rings" battle sequences; and a group of companies for their work in digital audio editing.

    Here it is, what little there is

  7. "Technology" does not necessarily mean "digital" by Nakito · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Filmmaking is technological by nature. Many filmmaking technologies are in the realms of mechanical engineering, optics, lighting, chemistry (e.g., film emulsions), model making, etc. I don't think it's very accurate to refer to the Academy Awards for technological achievements as the "Digital Oscars."

  8. why protools? by dilvie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Okay, digidesign has done some neat things recently, but the most notable are the cool digital control consoles that attach to software-based workstations.

    Digi was once widely recognized for building hardware that made mid-90's computers capable of audio feats that would not have been otherwise possible, but these days, there are a lot of other options, and protools is no longer an obvious choice over other software such as cubase sx, which has been very popular among smaller studios.

    I suppose the academy is really not very interested in the cool developments that have made it easier for the indie movie scene, such as the terrific, and very affordable Behringer Truth monitors, and small digital mixers that cost less than $2k, but sound better and buss signals easier than the $10k mixers of yester-year.

    I really think the coolest technical innovations in the movie and audio community recently have all been the ones that have made it easier to run a small studio out of your garage. I think that movement should be recognized a bit more by the academy.

    - Eric
    1. Re:why protools? by geekBass · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Being an avid Cubase SX user I totally agree. I guess it's more of a cultural thing where most of mainstream movie soundtrack people use protools. Though I recall Hans Zimmer saying he still uses Cubase VST 4.

  9. Henrik Wann Jensen by ankit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Henrik Wann Jensen (one of the winners) is a professor at UCSD. He has had numerous contributions to the area of Computer Graphics, including Photon Maps, Subsurface Scatterring, etc. Some of the animations and images of of his work are trully amazing.

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  10. Re:what about? by cindy · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm not sure about ILM, but Pixar (Ed Catmull in particular) has won at least one of these awards for Renderman. (2001)

  11. Corrections by fuzzy12345 · · Score: 4, Informative

    They ARE Oscars, just not the glitzy ones that the media covers. Sometimes software wins, sometimes hardware (e.g. innovative camera systems, mounts, sound equipment etcetera).

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    1. Re:Corrections by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 2, Informative

      They're not Oscars. In special circumstances an Oscar will be awarded for technical achievement but generally you get a small plaque or a certificate. Admittedly my certificate does have a picture of an Oscar on it but it most definitely isn't actually one.

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  12. I nominate the Star Wars Kid... by vicparedes · · Score: 5, Funny

    for Best Performance in an Online Feature.

  13. Because there are never enough Award shows.. by Dr.+Ion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously, is there any other industry that does as much back-patting and self-stroking as Hollywood?

    These are some seriously affirmation-hungry groups that just live for the moment to tell everyone "what a great opportunity it was to work with such a great professional" blah blah.

    Soon they're going to have a hard time fitting any new "content" in between the award shows.

  14. What about Andy?? by Lurgen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The story doesn't list everybody who was honoured, but I'm guessing Andy Serkis got missed again. Surely he contributed toward digital effects in film in numerous ways over the last few years, yet consistently gets overlooked. Sure, he isn't a techie, and he didn't invent the concepts as such, but he's the only actor who has taken a digital character to such extreme lengths?

  15. Re:Jennifer Garner by jfengel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    She's OK. I don't think one should base one's opinion of an actor on a single film. There's a lot between the actor's performance and you: script, direction, editing, cinematography, music. Even great actors can be made to look really stupid, and actors with no range can look good for a single movie with the right director (Jack Nicholson, anybody?)

    I've seen her in many other things. She doesn't have a vast range, but she's competent and pretty and she cries well on cue. She's got good charisma; that is, she is very interesting to watch. Not all pretty women are interesting to look at.

    Most importantly, she's "game". She'll take a crack at any language, no matter how badly, and she clearly works hard to make the fights look good.

    They must have been very proud of the work she did with the sai on Daredevil, since they worked it into an episode of Alias. Silly, but pretty.

    Probably dumb of me to post anything like this to Slashdot, but I'm an actor and a director and I like to think I know about this stuff.