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Handtop PC Announced Using Transmeta Processor

Cyberllama writes "Like many people on Slashdot, I've been wondering when all those transmeta-based products we were promised were finally coming out -- then I saw this. It claims to a be a fully functional laptop-like device with a 5.6 inch screen that can fit into the palm of your hand -- smaller than many laptop batteries. The specs are a bit last year (256 megs of ram, 1 gigahertz processor, 30 gig hard drive) -- but the size of the device is still pretty impressive. Unfortunately it looks like they won't be shipping until the end of the year."

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  1. why by 74nova · · Score: 4, Interesting

    what do i possibly need 256MB/1GHz with a 5.6" screen for? not a troll, im honestly curious. thats what i have at home in my desktop and it does all i need, sure. however, most of what i do coudl not be done on a 5.6" screen. maybe its just a little to early for this kind of tiny power or are there really pda-style apps that need this?

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    1. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, what's popular in the PocketPC market? Personally, I'd see a wireless device that you could use for what Steve Jobs has been touting. That is, replace the mini-tower as a central hub with a ballsy PDA. It would still need an optional keyboard but...

      Since cell phones are become more PDA-like, and PDAs are offering better multimedia capability, perhaps the new line of products will be somewhere in between. Personally, I'd like to know what the PocketPC sales have been like over the past eighteen months. How viable is this market?

    2. Re:why by Atryn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They apparently built in a 1.3MP digital camera. That seems a bit odd to me. The fact is that without a flash a 1.xMP camera is pretty bad except outdoors. And despite this being smaller than a normal laptop, I'm hesitant to say I'd want to hold it up to take a picture.

      That being said, I do see how this device would make an excellent companion for a real digital camera. My wife and I spent over $1000 on our digital camera but don't do any editing/compiling/uploading until we get home to our desktop. I think it would be cool to be on vacation, shoot some video, hook it up to this via USB 2.0, make some edits, and then upload over 802.11 to a site for relatives/friends to view it.

      If I were them I'd kill the built in camera to keep price down. Bluetooth and/or USB will provide access to a camera. People talk a LOT about convergence and all in one device, but I do not want to use a full computer to take pictures, regardless of the size.

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  2. What will the cost be? by segmond · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I want to get such a system for $450-$600 brand new tops. Doesn't have to be the fastest, but with the price of such small laptop like computers, it is never going to happen. Even used Toshiba liberttos are expensive.

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  3. Avalible for a while now.... by OPTiX_iNC · · Score: 5, Informative

    if you had the money.

    www.antelopetech.com/

  4. I have one. by gregarican · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I recently purchased a Fujitsu P Series Lifebook that uses a TM processor (see their site for details). It's pretty slick. Don't have a CD/DVD drive, but I'm using my unit for remote admin work so I love being able to go wireless, grab a wired connection, or even use GPRS via a PC Card. The touch screen is great as well.

  5. Ach! by Walkiry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a good thing I have a big hand :p

    Anyway, my main grip with this (it's not the only product I see doing the same) is still keyboard design. You are supposed to write with your thumbs while grabbing the thing, why not arrange the keys around the thumbs then? It's not like anyone will be able to touch-type there anyway with that size.

    Also start using some fucking trackballs again, I'm sick of these useless annoying touchpads. It'd be specially annoying in something that size.

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  6. 2-6 hour battery life? by Marx_Mrvelous · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That seems a bit short. Considering you can buy a 15" scrren laptop that gets 4 hours life. I guess they have a tiny battery powering that thing. Too bad, it looks like a nice halfway between PDA and laptop.

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  7. Those are almost the exact same specs by jayhawk88 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Compaq T-1000 TabletPC has. And I can tell you from experience that WindowsXP on that thing is A DOG. Pack a lunch if you plan on using this thing for anything more than IE and Freecell.

  8. Oqo all over again. by Oscar26 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Haven't we all seen this before? I remember back in 2002 when OQO claimed they would ship something very similar (an "Ultra Personal Computer" or uPC) by the end of 02. Haha. What a laugh. Here we are 1 1/2 years later and nothing yet.

    I'll believe it when I have one in my hand.

    1. Re:Oqo all over again. by Steve+B · · Score: 4, Funny
      an "Ultra Personal Computer"

      Ultra Personal? What, does it have a teledildonic interface built in?

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    2. Re:Oqo all over again. by Alan+Cox · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It can be done because it was done in 1994..

      I still have my IBM PC110. Its smaller than a paperback book, weights about 800grams. Yes the display isnt ideal and the keyboard is very much two-thumb but its *incredibly* useful because it lets you take a "real" computer with you all the time.

      Its also better than PDA because the apps are the same as your normal ones, so its easy to maintain and flexible. I guess Linux on zaurus is changing the equation a little.

      Personally I wish someone would just hurry up and ship the damn things at a sensible price cos the PC110 is wearing out...

  9. Very Good... by Sentosus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the world where laptops are getting smaller and smaller.... I like this handtop. It is a good bridge between my ultraportable Averatec Laptop and my Palm PDA. This would be great also in the business environment. It won't fit you all and it is nice that you have your opinions, but we don't need to hear about it not running something you want or being too slow. This is a product just like any other and suited to work for a group of people being nonspecific as possible and yet covering their needs. This would work perfect in hospitals.

  10. Re:In my hand? by Phekko · · Score: 3, Funny

    must be the same guy who designed that XBox controller

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  11. Battery life's a touch short by Tuxedo+Jack · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "2-3 hours running Windows(R) XP operating system and Microsoft(R) Office applications"

    Really, we'd need more than that. A spare battery or two, perhaps, especially if you plan to do anything hardware-intensive on it (Office, Windows, anything involving Half-Life... sweet, Counter-Strike on a palmtop PC).

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  12. last year by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 3, Funny

    The specs are a bit last year (256 megs of ram, 1 gigahertz processor, 30 gig hard drive)

    Hey! Those are the specs of MY box.

  13. Perfect For Meetings.... by millahtime · · Score: 4, Funny

    I could play solitare in meetings and the people around me would think I was actually working but wouldn't be able to get a look at the screen to see what I was really doing.

  14. My Company's Competing Product by SuperChuck69 · · Score: 5, Funny
    My company is offering a similar product, only 2" smaller and 15 ounces lighter. It will feature a 3GHz processor and 4GB of RAM, with a 1280x1024 screen. It uses a new solar technology that doesn't even require light to work, giving it an infinite battery life. It's also fully compatible with the Phantom Gaming Service. Pricing and availability to be announced later.
    [/sarcasm]

    When you can tap on something, throw it across the room, or pee on it, that's when it exists. When there are a bunch of pictures and promises on a web site, it doesn't. It means it's in "prototype", which means the actual machine is larger than my current laptop, but with a 5.6" screen and they're HOPING to get it down to size.

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  15. Re:In my hand? by ZaMoose · · Score: 4, Funny

    See what happens when you employ the same usability testers that Microsoft had testing the original X-Box controllers?

    Application for Handtop PC Testers
    [SNIP]
    13. I can:
    []Palm a basketball
    []Palm two basketballs simultaneously
    [x]Palm Cowboy Neal and two basketballs simultaneously
    [SNIP]

    See what I mean?

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  16. Never heard of Casio? by Bushcat · · Score: 4, Informative

    My Casio (made by Panasonic) has 2 - 6 hours battery life, 800x600 screen, 80GB aftermarket HD (up from the original 20GB), 512MB RAM, only a 600MHz Transmeta so it's SLOW, PC slot with a 54Mbps wifi card, CF slot with a 384kbps cellular card, firewire, USB, external video, modem, fast ethernet, a hardware switch to boot it into XP or Midori Linux, and weighs next to nothing. It's also two years old, obsolete, and sells for $400 on the used market. Better than vaporware any day of the week.

  17. Re:With Micro$oft Winblows XP? No thanks. by 0x41 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No, but Sharp Zaurus runs linux, as well as being much smaller/cheaper/better supported. Even has a full keyboad.

    /waiting for his 5600 in the mail :)

  18. MVIS will make these things work. by F34nor · · Score: 3, Funny

    People ask, "why so I need this?" I say you don't.

    Not until Microvision MVIS retina scanning displays are cheep and full color. When your screen is the back of your eye the ultra portable doesn't need a screen and becomes your only computer.

    Basically a video iPod that you can watch porn at work with a shit eating grin on your face and have no one know what your doing.

    Good buy economy hello hedonism.

  19. Lotsa' reasons by Midnight+Ryder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I own a Toshiba Libretto C110. I still use the heck outta it - I never bothered with buying a PDA, I use my Libretto instead. It's small enough to drop into the pocket of my trench coat when I head out on a startup, or go to gaming on the weekends.

    PDA's have a very confining feature set - very little storage, low processing power, etc. For instance, I hate carrying my books to gaming - so, I have scanned versions of my books (and some that I bought from TSR in .pdf format) When I need to look up something, just pull up the document, hit find, and I've found what I need - more convenient than a dead trees version (for searching - there's still something I prefer about dead trees for normal reading). Plus, it beats the heck outta carrying 5 books. Sure, I could convert to plain text for a PDA, but then I loose most of the table formatting. Plus I also keep my characters on there in Excel (I'd run OpenOffice, but, the Libretto is too underpowered for OO - it works fine with the fairly old version of Office that was included.)

    It's also great on a startup for similar reasons - just throw all my manuals on it, and when I need to look up something, pull that sucker out. Also great for times when I need to upload a program to a PanelView, connect to a PLC, etc. It's small, and I can hold it in one hand while connecting to the PLC - no need to have to set up a table or rest it on a rack.

    For any serious long term use, it requires an external keyboard and monitor hooked up - I've used it that way a few times, but more often than not I just suffer through 15 minutes of typing on the itty-bitty keyboard it has.

    This thing sounds like a perfect successor to my Libretto. The Libretto has 32Mb RAM, 166MHz processor (I overclocked mine to 233Mhz - there's some nice sites out there about hackin' the Libretto), and a 6Gb HD in it at the moment. 1 Ghz, 256MB, 30GB HD, and 802.11g? Sounds like a great upgrade to me :-)

    Now if I could only get: Same thing with a G4 in it (what ever happened to the idea that Transmeta was going to be able to emulate any processor?!) running MacOS X, a touch screen that can be rotated around like some of the (way too large!) TabletPC's, and a decent 3D card in it (for when I'm bored at the airport, car trips, meetings :-) I'd REALLY happy :-) (And my wife would too - while I don't have a PDA, she does. She also has a Mac, and if she had her choice everything would run OS X / work like a Mac :-)

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  20. Actually, this IS useful by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look folks, don't think of this as a very small PC.

    Think of this as a PDA that can run standard applications.

    For example, one of the main uses I have for portable computing is running trip planning software like Delorme's MapNGo products. Currently, such products are pretty much Windows-ia32 only. I really don't NEED a full-size laptop for this, and the software was designed to run acceptably well on a 25MHz 486 with 32M of memory fercrissakes! Running this on a 1GHz Crusoe with a quarter-gig of RAM will be child's play.

    Yes, it would be nice if you could run this software on an XScale or MIPs based PDA. It would be nice if I didn't have a mortgage payment, too. But I do and it doesn't.

    So having a PDA that can run ia32 code is not a bad thing.

  21. More on Flipstart from Forbes by ahess247 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I covered this last week for Forbes.com, and got to play around with a Flipstart for about 60 seconds.
    http://forbes.com/technology/2004/02/17/cx_ah_0217 flipstart.html

  22. Parts-bin Frankensteins by itomato · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Why, when we have portable DVD players selling under $200, Palm-powered devices under $100 and hard drive storage for under $1 per GB, are there no devices that combine the price/performance of all three?

    Imagine, if you will, one of those DVD players with the brain of a Zire-class device; color screen (5" LCD - TV resolution, but that didn't stop us in the olden days), internal data storage (5GB?), a usb port or two, CF or CardBus, and maybe a bottom-of-the-barrel Realtek or ADMTek 802.11X chip.

    Email, address book, DVD, MP3, and computer functionality in your (large) pocket, or backpack. Plug in whatever USB mouse/keyboard you want, or use the integrated joystick-thingy on the bus/subway/plane/go.

    Hell, you could even play Commodore 64, Atari, and GameBoy games on the thing..

    Hellllo Amiga..
  23. Let's start a company! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Funny
    I love to (hobby) and (hobby2) when I'm not running my (business) company. I use (vaporwareproduct) to manage my (business) and its (businessinformation).

    I find that (vaporwareproduct) lets me (e-action) and (e-action2) while (e-action3). The (hardwarespec) allows me to store (information) while the (hardwarespec2) makes for fast (e-action4).

    My (vaporwareproduct) helps me keep it all together, thanks to its (hardwarespec3) and (hardwarespec4). My productivity has increased, since I don't have to carry around (competingproduct), (competingproduct2) and (competingproduct3).

    Thanks (companyname)! (vaporwareproduct) is tailored just for me!

  24. Microsoft by Mr_Silver · · Score: 4, Interesting
    What surprised me was that the submitter, the Slashdot editor and all the comments so far have missed the fact that this company was started by Paul Allen, who co-founded Microsoft in 1976.

    Which does go some way to explain the heavy use of the word Microsoft and their associated (tm)(r)(c) lettering in almost every page.

    Information here.

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  25. This brings back memories... by Robotech_Master · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anyone remember that series of childrens' paperback books that were popular in the eighties, which were written in the third person and had the reader being a kid secret agent who carried around a disguised micro-micro computer and saved the day by writing a few well-placed BASIC programs?

    That was the first thing I thought of when I saw this paperback-book-sized computer...finally technology has caught up to fiction. :)

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  26. Eh by jandrese · · Score: 3, Informative

    No thanks, I already have a Sharp Zaurus SL-C750, why do I need a vapor product that's a bit faster (and with a HDD), but doesn't fit in my pocket? It's still going to be too small to do any serious typing, and this thing looks like it's going to be too big and overpowered (heavy, crummy battery life) to be a good PDA (actually, the Zaurus isn't a great PDA either, but that's a software issue).

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  27. Or you could buy a Sony U101 today. by Thag · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Specs are here:

    Celery 600, $2,000.00 price tag.

    Didin't say it was cheap, but then I don't expect this thing to be less than $1000.00

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