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Satellite Celebrates 20 Years Working in Orbit

lloydwood writes "The UoSAT-2/UO-11 small satellite was launched into low Earth orbit on 1 March 1984 from Vandenberg Air Force Base. Twenty years later, it's still in orbit and operational -- and we recently found launch footage. To celebrate the twentieth anniversary of starting in orbit, the original video celebrating the UoSAT-2 launch is available (in windows media and mpeg). Thrill to the computers, the clothes, and the haircuts of 1984. SSTL has launched more than twenty satellites since."

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  1. Not for a few more minutes... by suso · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just wait, I'm calibrating the targeting device on my low orbit space modulator.

    Hold it... Hold it........ Fire!

    1. Re:Not for a few more minutes... by herrvinny · · Score: 4, Funny
  2. I bet... by Cytlid · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...it runs Unix.

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    1. Re:I bet... by loserbert · · Score: 3, Funny

      But have they paid for their license?

    2. Re:I bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, NASA had it's own operating system called PLEK-SLC for satelites back then.

  3. Umm... by leifm · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since when do we celebrate various equipment still working? Guess I better ready for my PS2's upcoming 2 year still working anniversary!

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    1. Re:Umm... by bob+dobalina · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Since we only ever talk about satellites when they break, it seems only fair.

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    2. Re:Umm... by pcraven · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dude, I'm so old every time I hear PS2 I still think of IBM's old PS/2. Anyone else remember those?

    3. Re:Umm... by mblase · · Score: 4, Funny

      Since when do we celebrate various equipment still working?

      Wait until you're fifty years old. If your equipment is still working, you'll be celebrating too.

    4. Re:Umm... by savagedome · · Score: 4, Funny

      Remember? Take a guess where this post is coming from ;)

    5. Re:Umm... by orkysoft · · Score: 3, Funny

      A keyboard with a PS/2 style plug?

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    6. Re:Umm... by shadowj · · Score: 4, Funny
      Old?? The PS/2 series was introduced in 1987! That's not old! That's only... um....

      Damn, I'm old.

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    7. Re:Umm... by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Remember the PS/2's? I remember looking forward to them!

      Perhaps the kid with his 2-year-old PS2 will have a greater appreciation for a functioning 20-year-old satellite when he has some gear of that age himself.

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    8. Re:Umm... by DR+SoB · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dude anyone who says "dude" isn't that old...

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    9. Re:Umm... by 3dfxoldtimer · · Score: 2, Funny

      So your "Equipment" still works but your eye sight is shot?

  4. After it is /.ed (~60 meg video!) by mobby_6kl · · Score: 4, Funny

    [Insert obligatory "1982 web servsr" joke]

  5. Slashdotting imminent by capz+loc · · Score: 5, Funny

    With posting a 64-meg MPEG, I think we can be sure that their server won't have nearly the uptime of the satellite.

    1. Re:Slashdotting imminent by budhaboy · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's sort of funny watching my download speed (via cable modem) slowly drop... T-250KB/s... 249... 248.. Kind of reinforces the whole moment of a lift off...

    2. Re:Slashdotting imminent by slipgun · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a university site and they still couldn't survive a slashdotting!

      Posting an MPEG link direct to slashdot is the very definition of cruel :-)

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  6. If it was... by SisyphusShrugged · · Score: 5, Funny

    If it was made twenty years ago, wouldnt it have to be 10,000 times larger than a modern computer and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe would own them.

    1. Re:If it was... by kfg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dude, it's, like, built around a Sinclair ZX80.

      KFG

    2. Re:If it was... by SEE · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well theoretically yes, but, the matches would be so perfect as to eliminate the thrill of romantic conquest.

  7. Not quite as amazing as Oscar 7 by Rorschach1 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The Oscar 7 satellite was launched from the same place in 1974. It spent about 20 years dead in space after its batteries shorted, before it started working again out of the blue.

    Incidentally, that launch pad is about 3 miles from where I'm sitting. I can see it if I climb up on the antenna tower on the roof, but management got mad last time I did that to watch a launch.

    1. Re:Not quite as amazing as Oscar 7 by PPGMD · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oscar 7 was fixed by aliens. Sort of like the Spirit Rover. http://klydemorris.com/strips.cfm?strip_ID=1240

    2. Re:Not quite as amazing as Oscar 7 by Rorschach1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      See http://www.amsat.org/. Some of the satellites are very easy to work - I've talked to NO-44 with a handheld before.

  8. 1984 by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, some of us remember 1984, you insensitive clod!

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    1. Re:1984 by trick-knee · · Score: 3, Funny

      > Hey, some of us remember 1984,

      yeah, and what was that crack about hairstyles supposed to mean? I still look like that.

    2. Re:1984 by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

      > I still look like that.

      I bet most of those rocket scientists do, too. :)

    3. Re:1984 by digital+bath · · Score: 4, Funny

      I must say, 1984 sure was a double-plus-good year.

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  9. Bad press by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Things like this should be publicized much more than the stupid mistakes NASA makes. It's hard to keep a car running 20 years even with a constant supply of oil and maintanence work. This is much cooler, and deserves more media attention than a mixing up of metric and Imperial measurements (all though the mixups are STILL important). Eh, just a quick rant.

    1. Re:Bad press by jsebrech · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, this would be more akin to keeping a computer running for 20 years non-stop, without ever having to manually powercycle it, and without replacing a single piece of hardware, in the middle of antarctica. Much more impressive that just doing good car maintenance.

      Still, I think it's pretty sad that computers are even more frail than we humans are. For ages most of what we built outlasted us; now the tables have turned.

  10. 20 years uptime by vpscolo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now if we had hardware/software that could do that you could truely run a business with 100% SLA. Of course if you had a bewoulf of these... ...I'll get me coat

    Rus

  11. hair? by Matey-O · · Score: 4, Funny

    "and the haircuts of 1984"

    Those are not 1984 haircuts....Flock of Seagulls had 1984 haircuts....these are the haircuts of people that don't give a lot of wattage to personal apperance.

    If they were closer to New York, we could give the Fab 5 a call! (http://bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy /)

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  12. Landsat 5's birthday, too ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://www.spaceimagingme.com/content/Constellatio n/Landsat/index.asp

    Launch Date March 1, 1984
    Launch Vehicle Delta 3920
    Launch Location Vandenberg Air Force Base, California
    Weight 1938 kg

    Pheakin' bird was inctruckingcredibly sturdy.

  13. Watching a slashdot happen... by Dracolytch · · Score: 4, Funny

    Kinda cool, actually...

    Downloading at: 45 KBps

    30 seconds later...

    Downloading at: 40 KBps

    20 seconds later...

    Downloading at: 35 KBps

    The race is on! Will I get the file before the server dies?!?

    ~D

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  14. Life expectancy by milgr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So what is the life expectancy for this satelite?

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    1. Re:Life expectancy by MMaestro · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think the question should be, "what was the life expectancy for this satellite?"

  15. TORRENT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Torren of the WMV file HERE.

    This service brought to your courtesy of Soup, Bread, Linux.

  16. Mirror by patdabiker · · Score: 5, Informative

    I posted a mirror of the video here.

  17. Re:FIRST POST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting


    I must post this anonymously.

    I was a junior engineer on the UoSAT-2/UO-11 project. Early into the project a group of military people visited us. We were asked various odd questions. This exchange in particular remains strong in my memory:
    Military Man: Can we mount a laser into this satellite?
    My Boss: No way, that'd require a lot of reenforcement of the tube chamber (back then we didn't have solid state).
    Military Man: You could compensate with more fuel for launch. I'll approve it myself.
    My Boss: But.. a laser? What size are you talking about and for what?
    Military Man: [leans to assistant, whispers back and forth] We can tell you but your juniors [myself and 2 co-workers] will have to leave. [we did]

    my boss left the project immediately and worked on a secret payload project overseen by the military. Whatever that bird has in it, it's looking down at us.

  18. Not only do I remember the PS/2, ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Funny
    and not only do I remember the commercials featuring Jamie Farr (of MASH fame), but I even have a PS/2 t-shirt (in great condition).

    I had to explain to my wife that wearing it didn't mean I was old: it meant I was being post-ironic.

    1. Re:Not only do I remember the PS/2, ... by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, post-ironic is telivision's TJ Hooker trying to sell Vic-20's to the group that he just recently admonished to " GET A LIFE! "!!!

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  19. Fashion statement by CaptainCarrot · · Score: 5, Funny
    Thrill to the computers, the clothes, and the haircuts of 1984.

    Although we can be reasonably well-assured that the computers were state-of-the-art at the time, the clothes and haircuts are another matter. Please remember that these are professional geeks we're talking about, and are therefore not exactly cutting edge when it comes to fashion. To all appearances it was closer to 1978 than 1984.

    I know this because I was in college in 1984, and we all looked great, but these guys look like dorks.

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  20. Pretty amazing.. by brain1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Considering that batteries die with age, solar panels degrade with exposure, and radiation of all sorts bombard the spacecraft. Also you have to have fuel to station keep, and it is only recently that ion thrusters have become available that dont require a lot of reaction mass to operate.

    20 years of operation in the harsh environment of space gets my applause.

    1. Re:Pretty amazing.. by FrostedWheat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      From a linked page: Jan King, W3GEY reports AO-7 is almost certainly running only off the solar panels. It is very likely to be on only when in the sun and off in eclipse. Therefore, AO-7 will reset each orbit and may not turn on each time.

      The batteries have probably gone, but the fact that the rest of it is still operating is amazing.

      I notice it has a CCD camera but I've been unable to find any pictures. Does anyone know if it is operational?

  21. 1984 was so long ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Duke Nukem: Forever was only 3 years into development.

  22. 20 years alright by ravenspear · · Score: 3, Funny

    and we recently found launch footage

    Unfortunately they forgot to update the server it was originally hosted on way back in the day.

  23. Magnet links? by WeblionX · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why do most sites that host large images/movies not supply magnet links? It'd save them loads on bandwidth and people could stop making jokes about the server.

    (Not that I'm complaining about downloading at 215KB/s from the server..)

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  24. Re:FIRST POST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, too, must post this anonymously.

    I was that Military Man. The project to which you refer was the 'Alan Parsons Project'. We were going to put a jumbo 'laser' on the moon as part of a world domination plan. Didn't work out for some reason, I think a British agent foiled the plan or something.

  25. 20 years is nothing. by Gavin+Scott · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What about the amazing story of the Amateur Radio satallite Ostcar 7 that was launched in 1974, operated for six years, then died due to a shorted battery, only to re-awaken from the dead in 2002 after 21 years of silence.

    So we have satellites that work after having been dead longer than your satellites have been alive.

    Nyeah.

    G.

  26. Re:I bet.....and you lose by Captain+Sensible · · Score: 5, Informative

    UoSat is not a NASA satellite. It was built and is controlled by the University of Surrey (england to the geographically challenged). It carries ham radio gear and a store-and-forward repeater for NGOs in third world nations.

  27. Just to clarify... by Rico_za · · Score: 5, Informative

    UoSAT-2 was not a Nasa mission. It was built by Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd in Guildford, a University town just west of London. We've grown quite a bit since then. We specialize in building small satellites (think 100 kgs, not 1000's of kgs). It's a different way of doing things to the way NASA and ESA usually does, but it's catching on.

  28. Re:FIRST POST! by slipgun · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now listen to me, sonny. I work for the SIS, and I don't want you to ever repeat this story again. What happened was secret then, and is now. You may find your life getting a little more difficult if you tell anyone else, you see what I mean? Keep quiet.

    I've ordered Taco to pull your post immediately. Remember, if you tell anyone else, we'll find you. I hear Belmarsh isn't too pleasant at this time of year.

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  29. Re:FIRST POST! by slipgun · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now listen to me, sonny. I work for the SIS, and I don't want you to ever repeat this story again. What happened was secret then, and is now. You may find your life getting a little more difficult if you tell anyone else, you see what I mean? Keep quiet.

    I've ordered Taco to pull your post immediately. Remember, if you tell anyone else, we'll find you. I hear Belmarsh isn't too pleasant at this time of year.


    DAMN, I meant to post that anonymously. Now identity as a top-level agent trying to infilitrate Slashdot has been revealed.

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  30. What about Iridium? by Aumaden · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If the UoSAT-2/UO-11 is still functioning after 20 years, why was there such a rush to deorbit the Iridium satellite constellation?

    1. Re:What about Iridium? by WayneConrad · · Score: 2, Informative

      why was there such a rush to deorbit the Iridium satellite constellation?

      They are fairly large birds, large enough that pieces of them may reach the surface, so they much prefer to deorbit them under control than wait for them to fail and reenter wherever they will.

      Also, I recall hearing (but cannot confirm) that there is now an international treaty that puts some requirements on satellite operators to try to reduce the amount of space debris. One of the Motorolla guys on the Irridium project told me that each bird has a command-loss timer that, eventually, causes it to deorbit autonomously if nobody has talked to it for a long time. This is all hearsay; it'd be nice to hear from someone who actually knows something.

    2. Re:What about Iridium? by Detritus · · Score: 2, Informative

      One reason was that they were a big pain in the butt for optical and radio astronomers. The sooner they were gone, the better. The satellites are still up there, and I assume the astronomers still wish they would go away.

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  31. Landsat 5 by vsprintf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, as long as we're celebrating, today is the 20th anniversary of the launch of Landsat 5. If you want to talk about a work horse, it has been returning Earth observation data used by scientists everywhere for two decades as well. It just might outlive its successor.

    Landsat 5

  32. Re:Soundtrack? by wodelltech · · Score: 2, Informative

    David Bowie - Major Tom
    http://www.maxlyrics.com/songView/9757

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  33. Oldest working Satellite is 30 years by Stalke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This satellite is barely past middle age. A quick google search finds that AO-7 is the oldest working satellite and it will turn 30 this year. Mark your calendars boys and girls. November 15 is the day when the _real_ excitement starts. I'm starting an iCal shared calendar right now so I don't forget it!

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    1. Re:Oldest working Satellite is 30 years by NateTech · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He said *working satellite*.

      Pay attention, there's going to be a test.

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  34. Pioneer 6 is 38 years old now! by enosys · · Score: 2, Informative

    NASA's Pioneer 6 was launched on December 16, 1965. It was contacted in December 2000, when it was 35 years old. NASA doesn maintain regular contact with it but it's quite possible it's still functional. It was designed for a six-month mission to study the solar wind, magnetic field and cosmic rays. It is in solar orbit at about 0.8 AU.

  35. AMSAT-UK is issuing special QSL cards by cr@ckwhore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    AMSAT-UK is issuing 1000 special edition QSL cards to radio amateurs world-wide that submit signal/reception reports from the satellite during the month of March. Super-special edition QSL cards are given to radio amateurs who submit signal reports on March 1 (today), the satellite's anniversay.

    For the non-ham-operators among us, a QSL card (not SQL) is basically a post-card that hams send each other after making contact.

    So earlier today, remembering that I had read about the March 1st QSL cards, I pulled up my handy sat prediction software (PREDICT) along with the equally handy gsat client, updated keplerian elements, synced my pc's time so I could achieve the most accurate predictions possible.

    Had a good pass of UO-11 with about 50 degrees at elevation at 3:45 this afternoon (20:45 UTC) ... went out to the jeep and hooked my quad-band Yaesu VX-7R into a 5/8th wave magmount antenna (2-meter band) hoping to get the best possible reception I could with my gear. Adjusted for frequency doppler, and BAM! There it was... I had UO-11's telemetry on 145.825 ... got nice and loud during mid-pass ... record a WAV file of the telemetry when the signal was at it's best. When the sat was exiting my half of north america, I was still faintly hearing the telemetry on 145.820, adjusted down for doppler.

    So, of course, I submitted my signal report to AMSAT-UK this afternoon. They're going to verify my data, and I get a gold star when they're done. Today, I reached a new pinnacle of geekdom. Long live the hams!

    de N1ZPP

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