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Digital 'Ghosts' To Guide Students On Campus

Hambone.dk writes "The students at Copenhagen's new IT University will soon be guided by invisible, but talkative digital agents, known as ghosts or Disembodied Location-specific Conversational Agents. The ghosts are to compete amongst themselves for privileges such as better vocabulary or the ability to clone themselves. Ignored ghosts can die out completely. This project is a lot more serious than it sounds at face value - several papers have been published already."

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  1. Nearly-Headless-Nick or Peeves ? by Space+cowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's to stop these ghosts being maliciously "trained" to give the wrong answer... I remember a teacher at college (Mr Tittershill), who was routinely used in a joke on freshers (report to Mr Boobershill at the senior common room, NOW! ...)

    Is it only me who first thinks of "how to game the system" when presented with a new technology ? Perhaps I should have been a hacker :-)) [note to US authorities - this is a joke, and I have no intention of committing any crimes (cyber- or otherwise) when visiting the USA]

    Simon

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    1. Re:Nearly-Headless-Nick or Peeves ? by ericspinder · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Is it only me who first thinks of "how to game the system" when presented with a new technology ?
      NO, thank god. Your question is serious and important. It's sad that in today's world people feel like they need disclaimers(*) all the time. Any homeowner or business manager should look at his property like a thief, and not be appolgitic when he suggests that to others.
      * - Note that I am not trying to offend anyone, but am just trying to get my point across.
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    2. Re:Nearly-Headless-Nick or Peeves ? by Carthag · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, I can imagine a lot of things. Here at the department of Computer Science, University of Copenhagen there is a running prank called pyxling. It's basically making anagrams of the signs (which have those little lego-like letter bricks).

      I'd give examples, but they're in Danish, so no fun for the majority of you. Use your imagination :)

    3. Re:Nearly-Headless-Nick or Peeves ? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, if it's a true learning system, nothing, of course. But if you've got competition, then either you'll need a large body of people to make sure the badly trained ghost stays fresh and popular, or it will get ignored and "die".

      For this sort of project I think you actually NEED people to try and abuse the system. If it's well designed, it'll help it get smarter. If it's poorly designed, then, at least, they'll be able to tell.

      Mind you, I think the whole think will fail for lack of computing power, though I think it sounds cool.

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    4. Re:Nearly-Headless-Nick or Peeves ? by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Rearranging the Soup of the Day sign at diners never gets old. There was a big bookstore across the street from my high school. They only built the sign 10 or 12 feet off the ground. I used to stand on top of my car and change the sign all the time. Having 2000 of your peers greeted in the morning with a sign that reads "Eat More Cock" was great.

      Hint for young pranksters: Steal a page from the movie Sneakers. Recreate the target sign using Scrabble tiles. Rearrange the letters in private. Standing in front of a sign trying to think of a clever phrase will get you busted.

      -B

  2. Well Shit on Me by illuminata · · Score: 5, Funny

    College kids can breathe easily. For once, it's not the acid talking.

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  3. hear voices by millahtime · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is this a shrinks delight??? A campus full of people hearing voices.

  4. Wasn't this done sort of already by nberardi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wasn't this sort of already done with the GotDotNet Terrarium Project, it's not as intelligent but it sounds like the same idea.

  5. SHODAN by plams · · Score: 5, Funny

    When that female voice started speaking in that flash thing I almost thought it would say, "Look at you Hacker... Pathetic creature of meat and bone.."

    1. Re:SHODAN by plams · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Heh. But seriously, they have a lot in common - listen to these samples of background ambience to accompany the voice. Here's a bunch of nerds that actually understands how ambient sound can change the atmosphere completely.

      For instance, in System Shock - the first time you hear SHODAN speak, she's just giving you a standard greeting ("Welcome back to Citadel Station.."). But all the time there's this evil drone in the background that starts low but keeps intensifying. SHODAN makes no threats, nor states anything evil - but that ambience, the drone, tells you that something's definitely wrong, and you should be very affraid:)

  6. The ramifications are endless by Loco3KGT · · Score: 5, Funny

    Could you imagine this in your house? Your wife could be out grocery shopping but you'd still hear her voice yelling "DID YOU PUT THE LID DOWN?" upon leaving the bathroom.

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    1. Re:The ramifications are endless by petabyte · · Score: 5, Funny

      "HARCOURT FENTON MUDD!!, WHAT DID I tell you ..."

      "Stella nooooooooo ....."

      Hopefully these processes aren't threaded.

  7. Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Get ready for the Marketing Ghosts assaulting you on every street corner...

    I can barely wait...

  8. Who ya gonna call? by Gulik · · Score: 5, Funny

    And, of course, to augment meager stipends, PhD students can get into the business of helping freshmen figure out how to get the ghosts to leave them the Hell alone:

    ``Sir, what you had there is what we refer to as a Disembodied Location-specific Conversational Agent, or a Class 5 Full-roaming AI. Really nasty one, too.''

  9. feelings??? right. by blue_adept · · Score: 5, Insightful

    from the website project pages...

    "the ghosts are not only able to talk and think like human beings they are also emotional and sensitive spirits. the ghosts have feelings and highly complex sets of behaviors"

    this is very misleading. natural language processing and complex behaviour is one thing, but to claim that these programs have "Feelings" is just ridiculous.

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    1. Re:feelings??? right. by thelasttemptation · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To be honest, the same can be said about you...

      natural language processing and complex behaviour is one thing, but to claim that these meat puppets have "Feelings" is just ridiculous.

    2. Re:feelings??? right. by Carthag · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's just a temporary chemical imbalance. It'll pass. :)

  10. Polytechnic NY by Smidge204 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Makes for happy Moose"

    Sorry, but this reminds me of the hauntings of my college... though I've never heard of any students being helped by them...

    I think the problem here is they are not passive enough, at least that I can tell. The last thing anybody wants is an emotional, talking version of Clippy talking to you as you're walkingdown the hallway...

    "Hi! You look like you're lost! Do you want directions?"

    "No. Go away."

    "I'm sorry, I don't know where that is."

    Man, Douglas Adams must be spinning in his grave...
    =Smidge=

  11. M$ Word Paperclip anyone? by DarkkOne · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I mean, it doesn't have an AI (Microsoft instead opting to go with their proprietary Artificial Stupidity) but doesn't it somewhat seem like a prototype for this idea. I mean, an artificial helper that guides you around software isn't too different from one that guides you around a physical location. But in all seriousness, instead of location specific ones, wouldn't you rather have a personal ghost? You decide it's appearance on your PDA/Wearable Computer/Whatever, you adjust its personality via programming or learning capabilities. You get to the campus, and it wirelessly logs onto a local server, gets a layout, and comparing your schedule develops a path to where you need to be, and on demand (or wim, if so programmed) gives you directions? Sure, location specific ones are a neat idea, but personal ones seem like they'd be alot more useful.

  12. The Word Paperclip by Geancanach · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From the paper:

    1. Ghosts are mostly invisible or only vaguely visually manifested 2. Ghosts are often bound to a specific location which often has a very special relation to the ghost 3. Ghost owe their twilight status to some unfinished business and they are therefore active and striving 4. Ghosts only appear when called upon or if they feel an urge to manifest themselves

    These ghosts sound a lot like the microsoft word paperclip. Is that damn thing going to start talking now?

  13. Re:I'm sorry. by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny
    If it detects that you're drunk, it'll probably switch to Zork just to mess with you:

    Welcome to Dungeon.
    This version created 30-AUG-90.
    You are in an open field west of a big white house with a boarded front door.
    There is a small mailbox here...

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  14. It would be really fun... by wolenczak · · Score: 5, Funny

    Being a comp sci. student at a large university, it would be really interesting to try gaming the system and have it make jokes or funny things to the new students. And believe me, all that bunch of technogeeks will have serious fun with the ghosts.

    "hi, i'm are your ghost guardian and will assist you while you get familiar with the campus. Cheerleader's Stripshow at 7pm in womens changing room, just make sure to reserve your seat in advance at the administration. Having problems with your teachers? Dr. Berger just loves the patriots (as well as entrance tickets), Mrs. Allison favours basketball players, and Dr. Palmer is into... ehemmm.. umm... well, you'll find"

  15. Re:sheesh ka bobs will this help the blind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    hile your heart is in the right place...you understimate and insult through your ignorance a very capable sector of our society.
    Obviously you've never found yourself drunk at a party where the only available designated driver is blind.