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Meet Lucy, The Orangutan Robot

Roland Piquepaille writes "Lucy is not an ordinary robot, driven by software. She's a pure product of artificial intelligence (AI). And after a three-year long training, she's now able to make a difference between an apple and a banana, which is quite handy for an orang-utan, even if she doesn't eat them. Her five microcontroller chips wouldn't like this... In "A Grand plan for brainy robots," BBC News Online tells us that Lucy is the brainchild of Steve Grand, an honorary research fellow at Cardiff University's School of Psychology. And why did he choose an orang-utan design? "I made Lucy as an orang-utan because, can you imagine how scary it would be if she looked like a human baby?," said Grand. More details and references are available in this overview which also includes the cover of Grand's last book, 'Growing Up with Lucy: How to Build an Android in Twenty Easy Steps,' which was already reviewed on Slashdot."

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  1. Best quote in article... by jhouserizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Best quote in the article: "I like 'intelligent' people. It's the thick ones that worry me."

  2. Heh by Ash87 · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Meet Lucy, The Orangutan Robot."

    Contender for best story title? =D

    1. Re:Heh by Penguinisto · · Score: 2, Funny
      "Contender for worst failed first post attempt?"

      No, that would be "To hell with the monkey, I want my Linux Fembot with a penchant for evil!"

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  3. The final test... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny
    she's now able to make a difference between an apple and a banana,

    The final test will be if she can pull the football away just before Charlie Brown tries to kick it.

    that or rip his legs off...

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    1. Re:The final test... by ozbird · · Score: 3, Funny

      The real final test is for the robot to know what the fruit is, but is able to lie about it:

      Lister: OK try again what is it?
      Kryten: It's a banana
      Lister: No it isn't. What is it?
      Kryten: It's a banana
      Lister: No it isn't! What is it?
      Kryten: It's an orrrrrr its an orrrrrrr
      Lister: It's an orange say it. IT IS AN ORANGE.
      Kryten: It's an orrrrrr it's an orrrrrr It's no use sir I can't do it
      Lister: You can. I'm going to teach you. (Puts down banana picks up apple) Ok what is it?
      Kryten: It's an apple
      Lister: No No No. What is it?
      Kryten: Oo it's no use sir I just can't lie I'm programmed to always tell the truth.
      Lister: Kryten it's easy look. (holding an apple) It's an orange (picks up orange) it's a melon (holding a banana) it's a female aardvark.
      Kryten: Oo that is just so superb sir. How d'ya do that, especially calling a banana an aardvark. An aardvark isn't even a fruit. It's total genius.

  4. King Louie's head on a toaster oven. Creepy. by The+I+Shing · · Score: 4, Funny
    It doesn't need a baby's head... it's creepy enough as a primate.

    I haven't been this creeped out since the first time I saw that Quiznos Subs commercial.

    And what's with that glowing blue Terminator eye? Imagine that thing chasing Linda Hamilton around.
    Your clothes... give them to me... I'll take that banana, too...
    Can't he cover that thing with fur or something? Make it look like a toy instead of like something out of madman's nightmare?
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    1. Re:King Louie's head on a toaster oven. Creepy. by rjelks · · Score: 4, Funny

      OMG, I followed the link and yikes. It looks like a combination of the Terminator, Chucky and some scary-assed monkey thing. Very cool idea, but I'm going to have nightmares about this one.

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    2. Re:King Louie's head on a toaster oven. Creepy. by jaxdahl · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you read Star Wars books like any respectable slashdottter, you'll find that C-3P0 was designed to be as neutral as possible to a wide range of cultures, it has eyes, fixed arms, neutral mouth with no teeth, open gesture.

  5. Lucy's home page by morcheeba · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lucy's home page is an even better place for technical details, including an anatomical overview and scrapbook pictures

    1. Re:Lucy's home page by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 2, Funny
      The FCC's going to have to censor that. She's completely nekkid!

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  6. scary by AnonymousCowheart · · Score: 3, Funny

    he said: "can you imagine how scary it would be if she looked like a human baby?"
    did you guys look at the picture of that thing? It looks like my mother-in-law! Thats friggen scary! I guess he spend all the money on research, and not on matching eye's.:)

  7. If his goal was... by Atario · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...to avoid being scary, he's failed miserably.

    Can't sleep...orangutan robot'll kill me...can't sleep...orangutan robot'll kill me...can't sleep...orangutan robot'll kill me...

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  8. Extinct by Ethernet_Jedi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe he could build and program an entire zoo (extinct species and all)..No feeding, no vets, just an occasional tune-up :0

  9. Are there any... by incom · · Score: 3, Interesting

    opensource AI projects? It'd be interesting to play around with something, even very primative. It' would need to be OSS so I could actually modify it though.

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    1. Re:Are there any... by devnull17 · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's all kinds of great stuff available, even if some of it is very old. You can even get an implementation of SHRDLU with the mechanical components replaced by a 3D Java layer.

      SHRDLU, like most AI projects written in the past 40 years, uses LISP, so it's actually not that hard to read. (Incidentally, SHRDLU is more than a bit unstable, but if you can get it to work, it's pretty amazing, especially for something written in the 70's.) Definitely worth a look, if only for the "coolness" factor.

      One of the greatest things about AI is that most of the work on it comes from academia--virtually everything is available for free, if you know where to look.

    2. Re:Are there any... by asavage · · Score: 2, Informative

      It isn't free, but the MATLAB neural network toolbox is really nice and you can see and modify a lot of code. They have some nice demos like appcr1 which is a neural network that takes images of letters and can tell you what letter is being shown. It tests it with random noise being added to the image and it works quite well.

  10. Realistic features to be added to Lucy 2.0: by mystery_bowler · · Score: 3, Funny

    - Incredible tree-climbing ability
    - Facial-gesture mimicry
    - Pick parasites out of fur (useful!)
    - Poo-flinging

    And I don't know if it's all orangutans, but the ones at my local zoo have an affinity for tire swings. They wear through the rope and then roll the tire into the safety moat.

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    1. Re:Realistic features to be added to Lucy 2.0: by doublem · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's because they're trying to build a bridge over the moat so they can escape.

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  11. Hi. I'm Troy McClure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    hi. I'm Troy McClure. You might remember me from such robot-apes movies as "Bedtime for Bender" and "Bananabots: Gorilla Rampage"

  12. Cover it with fur? by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fur?! Good god man!

    A thick blanket is what is needed here!

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  13. That Robot violates the #1 rule of robotics by Lord_Pall · · Score: 3, Funny

    That it not be absolutely terrifying looking.

  14. Bat-Shit Terrifying by Enigma_Man · · Score: 3, Funny

    That is one of the most frightening things I have ever set eyes on in my entire life. I can't imagine that a baby would have been even _more_ terrifying. Look at the cover of the book. It resembles the aliens from "Mars Attacks" to me. Also, according to the article, Frankenstein is a robot? I always thought he was a meat-bag like us? And, do we all have to refer to the hour-too-long movie "AI" every time Artificial Intelligence is referenced? Would it be infringement otherwise? Yeesh, I can't stop looking at that train wreck of a face... haunt me all night. -Jesse

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  15. Question WRT development language by NecrosisLabs · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is she programmed in Ook?

  16. At least they're thinking ahead by robson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Considering that the real ones are headed for extinction, at least we'll have some facsimile as a reminder.

    (Not sure whether I should follow that with a winky-face or a sad-face.)

  17. Reminds me of this... by ebonkyre · · Score: 2, Funny
    It looks kind of like the Teddy Ruxpin Borg.

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  18. The Japanese do it right by macshune · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't know if this is a trend exhibited by the majority of Japanese android/robotics researchers, but from what I've seen they tend to follow a no-face design ethic that I'm most pleased with. I think it's safe to say that most people would find anthropomorphic robots that don't look 100% identical to people (there's something off with that one) very creepy.

    And besides, these Japanese robots look way cooler and have this implied subservience about them, at least to me. It's a lot harder to humanize and attach (scary) emotion to something that's faceless and non-human looking, rather than something that looks like a hairy/scary-ass rendition of a planet of the apes extra.

    1. Re:The Japanese do it right by Yokaze · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think it is a particular ethic, as there research insitutes which concentrate on the facial part alone. IRC, the reasoning for the no-face design is, that when a robot has an actual face, people are trying to interprete its expressions. A hard to read face gives people a bad feeling. So, they are developing independently from the robots faces which can express "feelings".

      Robots have a different association in Japanese culture. In Western pop culture the first reference to a robot I can think of is Maria from Metropolis, in Japan Astro Boy. So, I'd say the bad feeling is also partly rooted in culture.

      > It is a lot harder to [...] attach [...] emotion to something that's faceless and non-human looking, [...]

      Um, I'd like to refer to Tamagotchis. It is not uncommon that people attach feelings to things.

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    2. Re:The Japanese do it right by macshune · · Score: 2, Interesting

      thanks, i appreciate the insight, it's nice that i now have a reason behind the face-less design theme. i totally agree about hard to read faces...some folks' scariest childhood memories revolve around unblinking eyes or faces missing key components. an example would be if eastman & laird had kept the ninja turtle's pupils out of the cartoon show. they would have been way creepier and probably not done nearly as well.

      fyi, when i mean "emotion" i'm not just talking about positive, so-cute-it-makes-guys-ovulate emotions, but scary, creepy emotions too. and maybe it's a question more of intensity. a de-skinned animatronic kitten with a lazy eye that glows krypton-green is less scary than a steel-lattice PCB cookie jar topped with an exaggerated primate head with a glowing green krypton eye with a grimacing i'm-gonna-eat-your-children face!

    3. Re:The Japanese do it right by Kiyooka · · Score: 2, Informative

      This has been noted before by Carl Jung (see his little-known theories of "uncanniness", can't find a link) and by a robot designer in Japan (can't find link to story on /., can't find anything today!) When something vaguely resembles a human it's amusing and cute, but when it reaches a certain threshold of similarity (which is to say it looks too much like a real human) people suddenly and severely dislike it.

      If you want people to like it, you have to keep pushing the similarity until people can't tell the difference anymore. Otherwise, it's like you're talking to a slightly defective human, which is very very unnerving. Imagine talking to a robot that's in every way exactly like a human, except that it stares at you and never blinks. Or every now and then it turns it's head 360 to look out the window, or bends its elbows backwards to pick something up off the ground. Freaky!

  19. I would bet by nate+nice · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would bet that the thought of a baby would be on the order of 1,000,000 times of that of this robot. And probably 100,000 times that of a real Orangoutang. Obviously I have absolutely no backing for those figures. As for AI, the studying I have done has made me conclude it's a failed, crack science at this point for people who really have no concept that a brain doesn't act like a computer, or a computer programmed to act like a brain. In order for this to work we have to be able to quantify a brains element, chemicals etc and we haven't much idea of most of these anyways, and if we do we don't have a clue as to how they function together.

    I'm just sick of recursive "best yet" algorithms that claim to be AI when in fact it's nothing more than deduced logic and we are, thankfully, a but deeper than that.

    So, go ahead and study AI as perhaps one day something may come of it but be realistic in that you're becoming skilled in a clever art of trickery and deterministic patterns. Good luck!

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  20. do female androids dream of body image? by sahen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Lucy's picture on the book cover is pretty heavily airbrushed... I bet once she looks in a mirror, she'll be in for a lifetime of robot-angst.

  21. Thanks, BBC by barryfandango · · Score: 4, Funny

    "... the cutting edge of artificial intelligence or AI, a title used by Steven Spielberg for his 2001 film starring Haley Joel Osment and Jude Law."

    Now that's good journalism: a little background about the history of AI for the lay-people who might be reading this article.

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  22. I guess they had two choices by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Two choices available for the head :
    Chucky, from Childsplay,
    And this freaky uncombed urang utang thingy :)

    I think i can understand why they went with this one. ;)

  23. Brain Farts? by Surak_Prime · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It has occurred to me, whenever the subject of AI is broached, that scientists seem to be doing a bang-up job of heading towards replicating the proper function of a brain in computer hardware, but none of the projects I've seen try to replicate the errors that result when the brain cell sending or receiving a message dies, is replaced incorrectly, is deformed one way or another, or is subject to any of the other myriad flaws of flesh.

    Could it be that sentience, in the end, is the result of brain farts?

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  24. Lucy's brain by topynate · · Score: 2, Interesting

    has 50000 'neurons'. Does Steve Grand really think he'll approach mammalian intelligence with so few? I agree strongly with him giving Lucy a rich environment, but maybe he should be looking at using something like FPGAs to get more neurons on board for a reasonable cost. That's what Hugo de Garis is doing, and he had much more ambitious plans. The company he was working for failed though, so I don't know whether he's still making progress in actual building of AI. Anyone?

  25. A new "ism" approaches by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I grow weary of all the people with cyberist attitudes who are scared of machines simply because they don't look exactly like us. If you look at the best of our CG characters today, they STILL don't look like us. I imagine that the first humanoid robots will probably look a lot like CG characters come to life. Get rid of those old fashioned attitudes... ;P

  26. Creatures by metaomni · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Something that is worth noting is the 'game' that Steve Grand helped create. The entire Creatures series (1, 2 and 3) was revolutionary in the AI-software industry. It melded a game that anyone could relate to, with some serious AI running in the background. The whole concept for the games was fascinating. It's a shame that his company has now gone under. The series in its hayday had a cult following, and I'm sure there are still some out there who play it.

    Man those games were obsessions...

  27. Frankenstein is a robot? by tuckericj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And I quote: "...conjures up fears of super-clever robots, the likes of Frankenstein..." Umm yeah.