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New Dr Who Actor Named

gdav writes "Well, after all that talk about Bill Nighy, it's actually going to be Christopher Ecclestone. He was prominent in Cracker, Our Friends in the North, and more recently 28 Days Later."

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  1. Who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Doctor who? Say again please.

  2. Lets face it though.... by andy666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    nothing beats the good ol' Tom Baker days. Not that I didn't like the other doctors...

    1. Re:Lets face it though.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    2. Re:Lets face it though.... by torpor · · Score: 5, Funny

      yeah, you just can't go ooo-eee-ooooh without thinking of Tom.

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    3. Re:Lets face it though.... by Masem · · Score: 5, Informative
      The reason that many people like Tom Baker is that during that time, the complete DW production staff was one of the best assembled, from writing to direction, and thus has some of the more memoriable stories, and just so happened that Tom Baker was the Doctor at that time. But I know more DW fans that appreciate Patrick Trougton, Jon Pewtree, and Peter Davidson as the Doctor, given some of the intensity of acting which they supplied to the roles, while Tom Baker's was more a jovial approach - there's also the change in approach from more cerebrial stories to more action-oriented ones as the sfx budget increased.

      The question here, is, is this going to be the 9th Doctor (as the BBC canon (which includes the made-for-tv movie) has McGann as the 8th, or are they planning on retcon?

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    4. Re:Lets face it though.... by Masem · · Score: 3, Informative

      I read that as "9th actor to play the Doctor" , not necessarily the 9th Doctor (aka 8th regeneration), only because, again, the question of the movie-as-canon is still in question, plus it certainly is possible to say the movie was canon, they could pull an actor change at this point without upsetting too much.

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    5. Re:Lets face it though.... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Since they killed off the previous actor within the movie, and the creators have previously said that the movie was to be included, I would say that the BBC article is correctly worded as the 9th Time Lord. Its possible we wont see McGann being killed off, but we will pick back up with the Dr after a undetermined period of time in his life.

      On a similiar note, can anyone tell me the title and writer of the book where the Dr met Hitler? From what I recall, it was written for an older audience than the normal books, and was very good.

    6. Re:Lets face it though.... by gilesjuk · · Score: 3, Informative

      Tom Baker also played the doctor for the longest period from 1974 to 1981. Most of the others did a stretch of about 3-4 years.

    7. Re:Lets face it though.... by D'Arque+Bishop · · Score: 2, Informative

      I read that as "9th actor to play the Doctor" , not necessarily the 9th Doctor (aka 8th regeneration), only because, again, the question of the movie-as-canon is still in question, plus it certainly is possible to say the movie was canon, they could pull an actor change at this point without upsetting too much.

      I believe the BBC considers the movie canon, as they themselves publish a line of Eighth Doctor books, not to mention had Paul McGann play the Doctor in a new version of Shada. Shada is currently published by Big Finish, who have the license for Doctor Who audio adventures and themselves have a line of Eighth Doctor stories starring McGann. I think it's not like Star Wars or Star Trek where even the sanctioned books and audios are considered canon.

      Hope this helps...

    8. Re:Lets face it though.... by D'Arque+Bishop · · Score: 2, Informative

      There were two.

      The Shadow in the Glass with the Sixth Doctor.

      Timewyrm: Exodus with the Seventh Doctor.

      Hope this helps...

  3. Samuel L Jackson as Dr Who by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Get the F*ck off my TARDIS ya punk ass bitch!!"

  4. Paul McGann by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It should have been Paul McGann. He did such a great job in the 1996 movie.

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    1. Re:Paul McGann by D'Arque+Bishop · · Score: 3, Informative

      He actually said himself that while he would have accepted the role if it had been offered to him, he would prefer to see someone with more drive and desire to play it, as he had already been there and done that, so to speak. However, he has said that he would love to come back and film the regeneration sequence.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/22/ 90 05.shtml

  5. Interesting, yet disappointing by Chalybeous · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was holding out to see Richard E. Grant in the role, as he did an excellent job during the recent BBC/Cosgrove Hall co-produced web animation, "Scream of the Shalka".
    That said, I'm more interested than disappointed, because I've seen some of Ecclestone's other work and I think he could bring a new perspective to the role.
    (And I'm also very grateful that the role didn't go to Joanna Lumley. That joke's been done to death since the mid-1980s, and the Comic Relief episode a few years back is as close to that prediction as I want to get!!)

    All we need to know now is, who are his new companions?

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    1. Re:Interesting, yet disappointing by kamawell · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Richard E Grant would have done a fine job but he would have been almost too good a fit for the part - you get the impression he could do haughty but eccentric without having to think about about it.
      Same with one of the other hotly tipped actors - Alan Davies - who could easily have done slightly shambolic and eccentric as he has done in several series of 'Jonathan Creek.'
      And much as I love Eddie Izzard I'm kind of relieved it wasn't him in the end.

  6. One question.... by sh0dan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Christopher who?

    1. Re:One question.... by kamawell · · Score: 5, Informative

      Eccleston. In the UK he's a well repected TV actor but he was in '28 Days Later' and 'Elizabeth' too. He's an interesting choice and over here at least he's certainly going to lend a bit of adult credibilty to the new version of the show.
      http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001172/

    2. Re:One question.... by ader · · Score: 2, Informative

      Before anyone else does that joke, please get thee to a vid store and rent (or buy, it's worth it) "Elizabeth" and note his performance as the papal assassin (although in the end, Geoffrey Rush's Walsingham is the more ruthless and effective).

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  7. A good Docotor does not a good show make... by eweu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Paul McGann was a fabulous Doctor in the 1996 movie, but the writing was terrible. That's why it flopped.

    I only hope the BBC holds back on budget just like the old days so the storytelling has to bear the weight, not the effects.

    1. Re:A good Docotor does not a good show make... by Felinoid · · Score: 2, Informative

      Based on the flash movies already on the BBC website I'd say they plan to use a great deal of specal effects BUT the writers will not be permitted to let the effects tell the story.

      I won't speak for the quality of the writing. However every TV executive will tell you if you just toss a TV show on the air and tell nobody you will get no viewers. That is exactly what Fox pulled with the 1996 movie.

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    2. Re:A good Docotor does not a good show make... by That_Dan_Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes he was a fabulous Doctor. Wish he had been interested in staying.

      I can remember being so stunned the movie even existed (I was in Taiwan at the time I saw it, which was the first I had heard of it) that I never noticed how awful story was. For me, the fabulous job by Paul McGann made up for it all.

      Ahh well, least we got a Flash Movie with his voice that was pretty good.

      And yes, I secretly hope they make the Special Effects especially cheesey to make it funnier to watch. I doubt they will though. it is cheap enough to grab some Computer Graphics animators and make it all look super modern...

    3. Re:A good Docotor does not a good show make... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I won't speak for the quality of the writing. However every TV executive will tell you if you just toss a TV show on the air and tell nobody you will get no viewers.

      It was awful as an example of Doctor Who. If they wanted to start over from scratch then they should have started over from scratch, not pretend to be writing a Doctor Who movie. If they wanted to continue a tradition then they needed to stay more in that tradition. The movie they made just didn't work as Doctor Who.

      If they wanted to take the series in a new direction then they had to first show that they could cope with the existing material.

      A one off episode after a long break is not the time to decide that the Doctor is half human, bring in all that weird power source of the tardis that can only be opened by humans (why?) stuff, have the Doctor falling in love with some girl he's just met etc. etc. Work with the material you've got or don't bother, but reinventing like that was never going to work. Revelations like that need to be fitted in to the direction of the story line over time. Maybe a Doctor falling in love or whatever can work, but not out of the blue like that.

      If they'd created it as a standalone without the Doctor Who references maybe it could work. If it'd been the culmination of a series that led up to it, maybe it could have worked. As an attempt at a new Doctor Who, it was terrible.

  8. Bill Nighy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean the Bill Nighy the Science Guihy?

  9. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    You complain about Slashdot rejecting your story (Maybe it was poorly written?) then you winge about being modded down. Do you have nothing better to do than complain about Slashdot in relation your own life?

  10. Am I the only one? by JoshRoss · · Score: 2, Informative

    The only place that I have ever seen the name Dr. who has been on slashdot.
    Are any of these posters from America?
    When is the last time any of these shows aired?
    Or, if they are any good, is there a Dr. who bittorrent site, since the BBC open-sourced their content.

    1. Re:Am I the only one? by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 5, Informative

      Are any of these posters from America?
      Quite a few I would guess. Not me though.

      When is the last time any of these shows aired?
      Last new episode was broadcast 06/12/89 (DD/MM/YY dates), a TV Movie coproduced by the BBC and Universal was broadcast 27/05/96 in the UK (earlier in the US). Repeats continue on UKTV Gold in the UK (early weekend mornings, set a video / PVR unless you want to get up a 7:30am on a Saturday), and some US PBS stations (but not many). Various other channels show it, like BBC Kids in Canada, UK TV and ABC[1] in Australia.)

      Or, if they are any good, is there a Dr. who bittorrent site, since the BBC open-sourced their content.
      Note "announced plans" and "in the future" etc. in that news article. It doesn't mean you can just share BBC material freely, it's still copyright and so on. Plus Drama series are probably going to be the last stuff the BBC will make available online, I think the early stuff they're going to have available is stuff like documentaries. You can get DVDs, audio CDs and VHSs of stories.

      Now I'll just do a quick "WTF is Doctor Who" bit...

      Doctor Who was a Sci-Fi series predominately aimed at children (although it's exact target audience varied over the course of the series, it gradually shifted to older audiences as time went on) that ran between 1963 and 1989 on BBC TV. It concerned the adventures of a mysterious time traveller called The Doctor (not Doctor Who), with the ability to regenerate and change his body to cheat death, and who travel through time and space in a Police Box[1]. The Police Box is actually called the TARDIS (Time And Relative Dimension(s) In Space), and a broken chameleon circuit (which should make the ship blend in with any environment, not just 1950/60's British city streets[2]) was not it's only problem, as the ship appeared to be very unpredictable, often catapulting the Doctor and his travelling companions[3] into dangerous situations, often against evil aliens like the Daleks, Cybermen, Ice Warriors, or The Doctor's nemesis The Master. The series was at it's most popular during the mid-late 1970's, when Tom Baker took the lead role.

      [1] Basically a big blue phone box so police officers could contact their station before the advent of portable radios, they also had a phone on the outside for the use of the public in emergencies (behind the panel with text on it.)

      [2] Naturally the TARDIS was first seen in a junkyard, not exactly a common location for Police Boxes at the time. A junkyard did become common in the 1970's, as police forces began scrapping the boxes in there numbers, only a handful of real boxes still exist.

      [3] Quite often young women.

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    2. Re:Am I the only one? by TomV · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's slightly more to it than that the BBC trademarked the blue box as part of the preparations for the 1996 TV Movie, the Metropolitan Police appealed to get the Trademark back so they could charge the BBC for using the Box, and eventually (October 2002) the judgement fell in favour of the BBC. details

  11. If you're going to count movies... by dpilot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What about Peter Cushing in "Day of the Daleks"?

    I suspect the can(n)on has to boom in a different direction for the movies, though I did like the touch of including Sylvester McCoy in the McGann movie, even if the movie itself wasn't generally well received. For all of the running through the Tardis in "Invasion of Time", we never saw such an essential and powerful piece of the Tardis as the Eye until 1996?

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    1. Re:If you're going to count movies... by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 3, Informative

      Peter Cushing starred in the movies "Dr. Who and the Daleks" and "Daleks: Invasion Earth 2150AD", which were based on the original TV stores "The Daleks"[1] and "The Dalek Invasion of Earth". "Day of the Daleks" was a Jon Pertwee TV story.But those two 1960s movies don't fit in with the TV series at all, being remakes of TV stories, featuring a human Dr. Who (not The Doctor) in his space ship Tardis (not the TARDIS) and various other changes. You'd have to really twist the timeline to include them. I think the TV series will follow on after Paul McGann, as there are a large number of spin off books and audio plays set after the TV movie, and fans don't generally take kindly to having huge parts of a series wiped out usually. Although I somehow thing the amount of McGann stuff will be reduced (BBC Books are apparently going to phase out on the ongoing 8th Doctor series of books, although I think occasional books are going to be produced in the 'past doctor' line.) I do hope they ignore any of the really stupid bits in the TV Movie though (the half-human bit is the most obvious, that's ripped strait out of Star Trek (Spock et. all).) But I think the current production them is knowledgeable enough to know that getting too hung up on continuity etc. is a bad idea, just look what happened in the early-mid 80's, with loads of really pointless references abound. [1] This is sometimes know as "The Mutants", but that isn't used much as a Jon Pertwee serial also has that title.

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  12. He's got 'the look' by jarich · · Score: 2, Interesting
    check him out Google images

    http://images.google.com/images?q=%22Christopher+E ccleston%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en

    He just 'looks' like a Doctor Who to me.... maybe it's the nose?

  13. who will play the Master ? by snot.dotted · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Arch villans. The Dr must be pitted against a worthy advisory, the Master. He really was very evil, in fact the Master invented evil. The chaps in the shiny suits and trash cans on wheels never really scared me at all, the Master on the other hand was equipped with a TARDIS that actually worked and all the knowledge of a time lord. The Master was Moriarty to The Doctors Sherlock Holmes, and or course he wanted to rule the known universe.

  14. Re:Last Dr. Who? by NulDevice · · Score: 4, Informative

    12. Gallifreyans get 12 regens by default. The master used up all his, did all sorts of mojo to stay alive on Gallifrey, stole Councillor Wossisname's body on Traken, and in the 5 docs was offered a full set of regens in exchange for help locating the Doctor.

    The Valeyard from Trial of a Time Lord was supposedly the doc's 12th regen. The eeeeeevil one.

    Oh my god. I'm a huge nerd.

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  15. Re:Last Dr. Who? by whovian · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yep, 12. Before that he was able to siphon off some of the energy(?) from the Eye of Harmony in the Panoptican on Gallifrey in order to stay alive a bit longer, even in his vegetative form.

    That's Councillor Tremas you are thinking of.

    Then there's that pneumesmiton(sp?) gas stuff in that cave during Peter Davison's character. Can't recall any more than that.

    OMG! I'm a huge nerd, too. There's a pair of us!

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  16. Re:Last Dr. Who? by TomV · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Unless you buy the "Brain Of Morbius" version of Time Lord lifecycles, in which case there were eight other Doctors prior to William Hartnell (this was flatly contradicted in other scripts later in the series, but was very much the intention of the production team at the time) whose faces appear on the screen of the mind-wrestling machine.

    SO looking forward to this new series. We have another tall, intense, slightly alien-looking insanely charismatic actor in the role, the best Drama writer in the UK, a budget reported in today's press as around a million pounds per episode, scripts by not only Russell T Davis but also Paul Cornell, Mark Gatiss, Steve Moffat and Rob Shearman, each of whom has a fine professional track record, and the show still has the charisma to get immediate coverage across the UK national media.

  17. Non-lameness does not a good Doctor make. by fm6 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Lame as it was, the movie doesn't begin to compare with most of the BBC scripts. Tom Baker once told an interviewer that his famous puzzled expression was not acting -- he often had no idea what was supposed to be going on, the script usually not being finished until shooting was well underway!

    I wonder if the Beeb will just pretend the movie never happened? They certainly can't afford to reproduce Hollywood's version of the Tardis.

  18. Re:Last Dr. Who? by mark-t · · Score: 2, Interesting
    For someone who has seen enough Doctor Who to have such an accurate count of the number of incarnations the Doctor has had so far, it is suprising that you don't know that the number of regenerations that a timelord has is twelve, not nine.

    Also, that's only by default... in "The 5 Doctors", it was alluded to that it was possible for a Timelord to get a completely new life cycle, which could apparently be granted by the high council. It wasn't explicitly stated in that story, but the implication was that this life cycle carried another 12 regenerations with it. What it would require for this to happen was not elaborated on either, but my guess was always that it requires some number of Timelords to voluntarily offer their final regeneration (twelve Timelords, in the case of a completely new life cycle).

  19. Re:Rats!! by Winter+Lightning · · Score: 3, Informative

    No way! Head is a wooden ham who gets by in
    the U.S. because of his accent.

    Before joining Buffy he was best known in the
    UK for his role in a long running coffee
    commercial love story ("The Gold Blend couple").

    Simply NOT Time Lord material, but he might
    serve as an Ice Warrior with a bit of make-up.

  20. Gotta have decent production values. by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I remember hiding behind the sofa like thousands of other kids in the 70s but Dr. Who is no longer for children and the effects which in those days inflamed childhood imaginations will no longer cut the mustard.

    The production values now have to be good enough to compete with Babylon 5, Andromeda, Stargate SG-1, Farscape for the attention of the now thirtysomethings who want Who back. I'm not convinced the Beeb will give the show the budget it's going to need and disappointment is a powerful emotion.

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  21. Re:I can't help but notice... by Wildfire+Darkstar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not surprising, then, as Russell T. Davies, the producer spearheading the new series, has gone on record saying he wanted to focus on the horror aspect of the series.

    To many people (and especially Americans) Doctor Who is thought of as a lighthearted series. But, really, throughout most of its run, it was not. The show was frequently chided by British "family advocates" for being too scary for the children's audience it was supposedly targetted at, and dabbled in all sorts of macabre ideas. It was only during the reign of producer Graham Williams in the late 1970s (the period in which Douglas Adams served as script editor) that the show gained its reputation for pure camp: Philip Hinchcliffe, the producer preceding Williams, was especially noted for his penchant for gothic horror, and John Nathan-Turner, who followed from Williams' tenure until the cancellation of the show in 1989, tended towards, at various different points, either action/suspense or psychological horror himself. Heck, even Williams/Adams, beneath the somewhat camp exterior, delved into some dark concepts.

    The Doctor, as a character, usually has an eccentric edge, but he's not always (or even predominately) a humorous character: even Tom Baker's performance, particularly towards the beginning and end of his seven year run with the role, had its sharper, and darker, edges.

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  22. Re:What happens after the 13 episodes? by Wildfire+Darkstar · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is intended to be a regular TV show again. This is the new show: he BBC has previously said that they expect a minimum of five years from the show (Remember, "series" and "season" are basically interchangeable terms when it comes to British TV). Thirteen episodes is actually a more than reasonable number of episodes for a season, given British television, and, at 45 minutes to an hour each, means that the new season will run longer than the last four seasons of the original show (which were 14 episodes at 25 minutes each).

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  23. Not just a phone box... by logpoacher · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > Basically a big blue phone box so police officers
    > could contact their station before the advent of
    > portable radios, they also had a phone on the
    > outside for the use of the public in emergencies
    >(behind the panel with text on it.)

    I made a discovery recently... I always thought that the real Police Boxes were rather like normal telephone boxes: simple, light, wooden.

    But most of them were actually serious concrete affairs, weighing over two tons (which became somewhat of a problem when they were decommissioned). They worked as miniature police stations, where an officer could imprison a suspect until help arrived. Here's a short history, and more details (PDF, sorry).

    Was I the only person not to know this? Oh, ok.