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Pigeons' Bandwidth Advantage Quantified

An anonymous reader submits "A well documented test took place in the north of Israel, in presence of several dozen Internet geeks and experts. During the test, 3 homing pigeons carried 4 GB (gigabytes) for 100 km distance, achieving, what apparently looks as pigeons' world record in data transfer to a given distance. Bandwidth achieved by the pigeons was 2.27 Mbps...Transferring a similar volume of information through a common uplink of ADSL line would have taken no less than 96 hours..."

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  1. But... by michaelhood · · Score: 5, Funny

    the DSL doesn't shit on my car.

    1. Re:But... by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 5, Funny

      Apparently you don't have comcast.

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    2. Re:But... by rjelks · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm picturing what a Denial of Service attack would be like.....Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds" comes to mind.

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    3. Re:But... by John+Hurliman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually if the pigeons were the communication medium, a denial of service might be a shotgun.

    4. Re:But... by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Na...that would be a firewall. Wanna guess what ports I'm gonna close? ;)

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  2. Back of envalope by brejc8 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    2.27 Mbps = 0.28375 MBps
    4 GB / 0.28375 MBps = 14097 secs
    14097 secs = 3h 54Mins
    100km / 3h 54Mins = 25.53 km/h
    25.53 km/h = 15.86 mph

    Not bad for laden little pigeons

    1. Re:Back of envalope by shiftless · · Score: 5, Funny

      Okay, having done that, when are you going to work out the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

      African or European?

  3. new firewall technology by Triumph+The+Insult+C · · Score: 5, Funny

    12 gauge shotgun i'm applying for the patent right now

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    1. Re:new firewall technology by GnuHaiku · · Score: 5, Funny
      12 gauge shotgun i'm applying for the patent right now

      Wow! That gives a new meaning to the error message "Carrier Lost"

  4. Mandatory joke by davebarz · · Score: 5, Funny

    There will be at least ten comments that say (even though it's a pigeon and not a swallow): "Was it African, or European?"

  5. Sure by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Fill up a cargo jet with full up hard drives and I'd bet you get really good bandwidth.

  6. Time to switch by unbiasedbystander · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's it, I'm switching to PSL. (Pigeon Subscriber Line)

  7. What about packet loss? by Jack+Zombie · · Score: 5, Funny

    You'd lose both a huge amount of your data and your only connection should something happen to those pigeons. Still, it's more reliable than AOL.

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  8. Re:packet loss? by oGMo · · Score: 5, Funny
    the response time for packet loss is prohibitive...

    But oh so tasty!

    ;-)

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  9. plop plop plop by frostyboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Insert obligatory joke here about "dropping packets"....


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  10. MD5 hash... by addie · · Score: 5, Funny

    I feel sorry for the pigeon who needs to be hashed on the other end to check if it's the same one... that's gotta hurt.

  11. at the risk of getting shat on: by t_allardyce · · Score: 5, Funny

    Try wiretapping that you FBI bitches

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  12. Pong by Fammy2000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    3h 54Mins

    Ping time is twice that. Doh!

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  13. Fetch me porn by superpulpsicle · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now if I can train my pets to fetch me playboys from local 7-11s, I am as good as without broadband.

  14. It begins... by stevenbdjr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it already April 1st somewhere?

  15. Pigeon DNS by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's all fine and good if you know where you're sending your packets. But what if you have to do a DNS look up? Then you have to send several scout pigeons to the nearest aviary which will in turn send a pigeon back with a map of where to send your data pigeons.

    And there's a whole other issue with those bastard Verisign Pigeons, but I'm not going to get into that now.

    There's also a risk of packet sniffers who use various means to down your pigeons and read your data (no router protection).

    And if they do happen to down your pigeon, they can give it new data and send it on its way as if it came from your IP (iniating pigeon). WATCH OUT CREDIT CARDS!

    The solution of course is to use Pretty Good Pigeons to protect your data.

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  16. Fat Pipe Pigeons.. by kortex · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..but can they stream?

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  17. Well, DUH! by purduephotog · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Worlds Record for Data Transfer in a Station Wagon"

    Basically, a station wagon of 35 gig tapes from SETI is driven to it's destination. Takes 16 hrs to fill 1 tape.

    Although it is very humorous to see pigeons used, they are still prone to packet failure (automatic weapons fire).

  18. Re:Lets see what happens if... by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lets see how far those flying rats get with 4 GB of floppies attached to their frickin' heads.

    We can't attach them there.

    That's where the frickin' lasers go.

  19. Re:Ha! by Trejkaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Absolutely, I've been using avian carriers for my connection for years, and never had a #%!@#70824645[CARRIER LOST]

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  20. Re:packet loss? by Anti_Climax · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Pigeons... Pigeons are good too. Sometimes, they come with notes attached. It's like a fortune cookie with wings!"

    If You don't know what I'm talking about, dust off your copy of GTA3 and tune into Chatterbox...

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  21. No fair... by j-turkey · · Score: 5, Funny
    During the test, 3 homing pigeons carried 4 GB (gigabytes) for 100 km distance

    Not a fair comparison against DSL...they multiplexed the pigeons. This is just more anti-DSL FUD
    ;P

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  22. Noteworthy incompatibility: by diesel66 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The technology eliminated the need for cat 5..."

    In fact, I would recommend not using ANY kind of cat technologies with this protocol.

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  23. Re:One of those things that shouldn't surprise but by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Informative

    When a Clear Channel radio station changes formats and therefore needs a large volume of music on site quickly, they usually send a server that is pre-loaded with the new format worth of music on HDs, and the studio just plugs that into their network. This also gives them the capability to change the format overnight without anybody at the studio complex needing advanced notice, so that soon-to-be-unemployed DJs don't see it coming and therefore leave the station a few days early to ruin the transition... the UPS delivery of the new music comes in a non-descript cardboard box which can be scheduled to be on the site just hours before the changeover happens.

  24. Re:One of those things that shouldn't surprise but by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, that's a working pace for a pigeon. They were working hard, but not really what you could call "trying." Birds are fast.

    Mind you a duck will overhaul a pigeon. That fat body is all wing flapping muscle. A duck is built to fly fast, high and for days at a time if needed. A duck in fear of its life can break 100 kph in level flight. An Eider just trying to get somewhere in a hurry for no particular reason has been clocked at 76 kph. That's the current officially confirmed record.

    Nevermind the falcon that eats the pigeon creating packet loss.

    I have no idea what the achievable bandwidth of a duck is though. They could deliver data intercontinetally. Having to wait through migratory periods would probably kill it pretty good.

    KFG

  25. Re:Ha! by daveashcroft · · Score: 5, Informative

    NOT by GMT...its now 00.51am on 1st April 2004! The world doesnt run on yankee time! ;-)

  26. Re:Ha! by schmink182 · · Score: 5, Funny
    The problem with pigeons is that they don't scale well over large distances. Not only does packet delivery take much longer for when distance is increased, but reliability goes way down, too.

    So while regular wired methods might not work nearly as quickly over short distances, they're much better to be used internationally.

    Oh wait, what's that foot mean next to the article...?

  27. Re:Ha! by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 5, Funny
    but reliability goes way down, too.

    The big problem to my mind is cat-in-the-middle attacks.

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  28. Re:The lag will be a problem, though... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 5, Funny

    But I think there is work on extending the TCP/IP protocols for interplanetary missions, so timeouts etc might be OK?

    I'm pretty sure you'd get 100% packet loss trying to use avian carriers for interplanetary communication.

    I guess when the bird died, it would send an ICMP message back about the timeout by falling on your head.

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  29. Re:latency v. bandwidth by MemoryAid · · Score: 5, Funny
    these pigeons have no bandwidth

    That makes them carrier pigeons!

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  30. Re:Ha! by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do you mean a TCP pigeon or a UDP pigeon? =)

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