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Inexpensive Dashboard PC
Kristian - Dreamless writes "Wanting to war drive with style? The other day I surfed the web to find a free dash pc solution to my car since the commercial ones cost around 2000-2500$ here in Denmark. I found DashPC.com and I must say this looks promising a very nice GUI and the features seems to be endless: Navigation with War driving, Multimedia and so on. Requirements? Low cost pc and a dash LCD display."
Well, yes. This guy must be a Slashdotter. From the FAQ:
Does the car run Windows or Linux?
"It runs linux. The first generation of it had windows installed. There are still many pictures out on the web of the first generation [windows] dashpc. The pictures over at Parallax are a good example. In them you can also see that the LCD was a 10.4". They are very old pictures, please disregard them. I've moved onto better things. There's a reason that everyone is moving to linux."
"...all the labours of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness..." yada yada
It's down already and there are only 2 replies. God bless that Slashdot effect.
Looks like the website was hosted in a car, it's already down.
Another site with a plethora of information on doing this is MP3car.com If you have the time, I recommend going through the site. Tons of information about the kind of power supply you will need (obviously a DC~DC converter).
I want one myself!
-- johntracy.com, because everybody else is wrong.
www.dashpc.com/index2.php seems to be working.
Sites down, can someone go clean their spark plugs?
I'm a rabbit startled by the headlights of life
I wrote a pithy note to Forbes five years ago in reply to a story about WinCE-based car computers. What I said still holds true, "Some people can handle any technology while they're on the road and still drive, and some can't. It's the process of sorting them out that frightens me." On a lighter note, it sure changes the meaning of "crashing"
For those of y'all just thinking about putting a computer in a car for the first time, here are some answers to basic questions.
d iagnostics.com
Currently, the most popular motherboard for Carputers is the Epia M10000. It's full featured and super low power consumption, runs about $160 US.
http://robots.net/article/983.html
For the monitor, the most popular now is the Lilliput 7" VGA touchscreen. It sells for $300ish with shipping on eBay new from a lot of vendors.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y47312DE7 (eBay search)
The best power supply is from Opussolutions.com and is a smart DC-DC power supply with automatic standby handling for when you car turns off and on and can survive the dreaded voltage drop when you crank the engine.
http://www.mp3car.com/store/
For GPS, anything works, but USB GPS 'mice' are popular because they are small and powered over USB.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O18324DE7 (an eBay search)
For connecting to your OBD-II interface on your car, scantool.net and obddiagnostics.com sell cheap serial interfaces.
http://scantool.net/
http://www.obd
Hope this helps, and for more answers, visit www.mp3car.com and be sure to read the forums. Lots of great info.
The site is already down but there is an example of it in a VW: here
Site's buckling. I managed to make a mirror.
You can mod your friends, you can mod your nose, but you can't mod your friend's nose.
You mean, like a crosshair? ;-)
Get a Hagstrom street atlas, a copy of the local paper, turn on the radio, and call somebody on your cell. All that should be distracting enough to get you killed in short order. That's the whole point of this, isn't it?
When did operating a two-ton piece of machinery at high speeds become relegated to an afterthought?
Research shows that 67% of those who use the term "research shows", are just making shit up.
Slashdot tends to link car-pc stuff as if it's new and different from time to time, and they always link to some fringe stuff like one particular piece of software or one person's particular (usually fairly hackish) installation. They have actually linked to the dashpc project before -- when the interface was built in perl/tk and barely worked! (Actually it's still pretty hard to install and make work -- I'd say it's at least as hard to install as MythTV) Anyway, the reality is that there are hundreds or even thousands of computer projects driving around out there, and there are many possibilities for what one can do on any type of budget from an old 486 embedded board with a LCD display that plays MP3's to a full-on LAN of fast pc's for backseat passengers to play games.
The best resource I found when I started looking into car-pc stuff were the message boards at MP3Car.com. They have sections for hardware, software, cabling, audio, gps, networking, OBD-II, etc. There are thousands of users on there, and everyone is very helpful. The archives contain a lot of good information that became invaluable to me when I was building my own car-pc project. It is currently going through a new overhaul where I am fixing some problems with the original design and functionality and adding some new stuff like OBD-II and reversing camera as well.
Except for the odd occasion, when curiosity might drive you to look through the windshield to check what's on the road.
It's a terrific resource for those of us who want GPS, MP3s, wardriving, etc. and don't want to have to haul seperate devices around for all of it. Also, lots of links to free GUIs that people are developing for carputers.
Check out the Show Off Your Project forum for some cool implementations.
"Powers. I have them."
Did it occur to you that these devices can and are being used to IMPROVE situational awareness. I make my living in the biomedical/human factors areas of cockpit design. Trust me, there is a lot of value in putting a well thought out design in a car. I also enjoy working on the car pc projects and I can assure you that I have yet to meet a person who is dumb enough to play a movie and try to watch it while driving. Imagine this: A guy driving along, flipping threw pages of a map with one hand, talking on the cell phone with the other, and the annoying sounds of a Home Alone Movie are playing for the kids in the back. On the other hand, the individual with the well designed computer system is driving along and puts a dvd into the console, the kids put on there headphones which so that he can still listen to his radio station while they watch the movie. An incoming call sends out a beep and full caller ID information comes up on the touchscreen he takes the call by pushing a button, which shuts off the radio and uses the car speakers for sound, his voice is captured by a mic in the dash. He hangs up the call with the push of a button and radio returns to it's previous state. He no longer needs to flip through a map because he has a gps display, and as he drives towards a preset destination, a voice comes over the speakers giving him directions.