Yes and our worrying about SETI security is akin to Romans wondering how we might exploit a weakness in the Caesar Cipher to invade them. If we have B2 Bombers and bad intentions, then surely we don't need to exploit any of their systems to inflict damage. A sufficiently advanced alien race, intent on destroying us, is not going to give up because we shut down SETI. Why would they want to use such a primitive technology as their means of attack to begin with?
I can detect a hint of sarcasm in that posting. In India however the company that created the only detailed, publically available Map of Mumbai had to get clearance from the Ministry of Defence first.
It seems ridiculous to me, to think that a person who intends to carry out an attack is going to give up because he couldn't find a map of the place, but that seems to be their logic.
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I don't know who modded you insightful, but you just mis-stated his argument and then refuted it. The grandparent stated that all software is not going to be "free" (speech or beer, take your pick) because software developers need money. This states nothing about the driving force behind the software industry as a whole, it merely states his opinion as to the position of commercial endeavors within that industry.
You are the one that needs to go back to school (though from your remark its' quite possible that you're still there) and while you're there, pay more attention to reading and comprehension.
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Welcome to a disruptive technology. Guess what? New things happen. Things are invented. Trends happen. People go out of business because the business model they rely on is made irrelevant. That's how a free market works.
Yes trends happen and people go out of business but the point that the grandparent was trying to make is that people don't generally drive themselves out of business.
There is an immediate problem that needs an immediate solution. If you want to tell your customers to just deal with the spyware while you design the next generation, secure by design, operating system, then I'd love to see how long you stay in business.
Except that my un-encrypted coffee slop does not have a conveniently vague Privacy Policy that states they "may log some information from your web page requests as may the websites that you visit."
"some information"?? I though the whole point of a privacy policy is to clearly disclose what you are tracking. This so called privacy policy is meaningless.
Getting back to the coffee shop though, they do not have the resources and technology to store and mine that data in a useful way and they don't know when and if I'm coming back, or who I am.
You took the words right out of my mouth. This is apparently something they've been working on for some time. First the Google Accelerator and now this. Coincidentally both of these products send all your traffic through their servers.
Do no evil? Commendable philosophy, but do I want to be put in a position where I only have your word to rely on to ensure that you do no evil to me?
The parent didn't mention one word about Windows. Just because he thinks Linux isn't free does not mean he's claiming that Windows is free or even cheaper.
You may be trying to show that Linux is cheaper than Windows, and you may be right, but that still does not address the original point which the parent made about Linux not being completely free.
Then again, this is/. and you get moderated +5 Insightful
Seriously though...set up a call center/secretary (with an emphasis on "secret") in a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US. Let all anonymous sources go through there. If the reporter is hauled to court, s/he can honestly state where s/he got the information from and the authorities cannot pursue it any further.
True, but at the end of the day, both of their jobs deal with the same technical system and I would expect the caller is making more money than the person he's calling. So it only makes sense to expect useful help when you are exploring an area of the system you are not familiar with, rather than when you are dealing with its intricacies and have come across a problem.
I would be angry too if I called up technical support and I couldn't get kernel level knowlege.
Really? I normally don't expect anything more than the most basic support when I call. After all, I assume theres a reason this person is answering phone calls (spending most of his time helping people find the "any" key) and not applying for my job. Which is probably why I almost never call tech support in the first place.
It's also much more concise and precise than "how much I'm wiling to pay".
How much you're willing to pay is your "budget". A word that's even more concise than "price point".
Unfortunately, a sales person doesn't want to ask you your budget, since the word has connotations of not only how much you are willing to spend, but how much you are able to spend. "Price point" sounds more like a choice. It's just a "point" you selected out of a whole range of prices on your whim.
I know you're a troll but it's not so much a critique of the English language, as it is of the modern culture of Bullshit. It reminds me of another book "Abuse of Language Abuse of Power" by Josef Pieper, and that was originally written in German.
From Amazon's book description: "...
reflects on the way language has been abused so that, instead of being a means of communicating the truth and entering more deeply into it, and of the acquisition of wisdom, it is being used to control people and manipulate them to achieve practical ends. Reality becomes intelligible through words. Man speaks so that through naming things, what is real may become intelligible. This mediating character of language, however, is being increasingly corrupted. Tyranny, propaganda, mass-media destroy and distort words. They offer us apparent realities whose fictive character threatens to become opaque."
A slight problem with your theory. While the continents change shape on a geological timescale. The web chages a wee bit faster than that. I can't imagine ever knowing where everything is. And even if you did have a comprehensive index of everything, the index would still need to be searched. Or were you going to print it out in alphabetical order and then flip pages to find the website you want to visit?
Since you used the word thrice, I think this might help:
patten (n.) : Any one of various types of wooden-soled footwear, such as a sandal, shoe, or clog, worn to increase one's height or to keep one's feet out of the mud.
patent (n.) : A grant made by a government that confers upon the creator of an invention the sole right to make, use, and sell that invention for a set period of time.
There's a very good article here about what getting a patent actually means.
To quote: "the question is not whether you will be able to obtain a patent, a patent most certaily will be able to be obtained. In fact, by some estimates well over 90% of all patent applications ripen into some form of an issued United States patent."
And from another example: The fact that a patent can be obtained or has been obtained does not mean that a valuable asset has been obtained, and this "invention" is a wonderfully vibrant example of that. There must always be consideration given to whether the protection that is or could be obtained is worthwhile to obtain in light of the intended use.
So if Bezos wants to waste his money on lawyers, good for him.
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Yes and our worrying about SETI security is akin to Romans wondering how we might exploit a weakness in the Caesar Cipher to invade them. If we have B2 Bombers and bad intentions, then surely we don't need to exploit any of their systems to inflict damage. A sufficiently advanced alien race, intent on destroying us, is not going to give up because we shut down SETI. Why would they want to use such a primitive technology as their means of attack to begin with?
It seems ridiculous to me, to think that a person who intends to carry out an attack is going to give up because he couldn't find a map of the place, but that seems to be their logic.
You are the one that needs to go back to school (though from your remark its' quite possible that you're still there) and while you're there, pay more attention to reading and comprehension.
Yes trends happen and people go out of business but the point that the grandparent was trying to make is that people don't generally drive themselves out of business.
I've seen the MS AntiSpyware, and even though it's still in beta (looks like they're learning from Google) it works well enough to impress me.
They stop the immediate bleeding.
There is an immediate problem that needs an immediate solution. If you want to tell your customers to just deal with the spyware while you design the next generation, secure by design, operating system, then I'd love to see how long you stay in business.
Don't you know? :)
WINE Is Not an Emulator
Except that my un-encrypted coffee slop does not have a conveniently vague Privacy Policy that states they "may log some information from your web page requests as may the websites that you visit."
"some information"?? I though the whole point of a privacy policy is to clearly disclose what you are tracking. This so called privacy policy is meaningless.
Getting back to the coffee shop though, they do not have the resources and technology to store and mine that data in a useful way and they don't know when and if I'm coming back, or who I am.
But like you said...to each his own.
You took the words right out of my mouth. This is apparently something they've been working on for some time. First the Google Accelerator and now this. Coincidentally both of these products send all your traffic through their servers.
Do no evil? Commendable philosophy, but do I want to be put in a position where I only have your word to rely on to ensure that you do no evil to me?
What is it about computers that makes people draw analogies to automobiles?
The parent didn't mention one word about Windows. Just because he thinks Linux isn't free does not mean he's claiming that Windows is free or even cheaper.
You may be trying to show that Linux is cheaper than Windows, and you may be right, but that still does not address the original point which the parent made about Linux not being completely free.
Then again, this is /. and you get moderated +5 Insightful
...oh forget it.
Seriously though...set up a call center/secretary (with an emphasis on "secret") in a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US. Let all anonymous sources go through there. If the reporter is hauled to court, s/he can honestly state where s/he got the information from and the authorities cannot pursue it any further.
"The injunctions filed against him state that ISS and Cisco had been working together on the flaw for the past four months"
Four months qualifies as a "few weeks" in my mind.True, but at the end of the day, both of their jobs deal with the same technical system and I would expect the caller is making more money than the person he's calling. So it only makes sense to expect useful help when you are exploring an area of the system you are not familiar with, rather than when you are dealing with its intricacies and have come across a problem.
Really? I normally don't expect anything more than the most basic support when I call. After all, I assume theres a reason this person is answering phone calls (spending most of his time helping people find the "any" key) and not applying for my job. Which is probably why I almost never call tech support in the first place.
How much you're willing to pay is your "budget". A word that's even more concise than "price point".
Unfortunately, a sales person doesn't want to ask you your budget, since the word has connotations of not only how much you are willing to spend, but how much you are able to spend. "Price point" sounds more like a choice. It's just a "point" you selected out of a whole range of prices on your whim.
From Amazon's book description: "... reflects on the way language has been abused so that, instead of being a means of communicating the truth and entering more deeply into it, and of the acquisition of wisdom, it is being used to control people and manipulate them to achieve practical ends. Reality becomes intelligible through words. Man speaks so that through naming things, what is real may become intelligible. This mediating character of language, however, is being increasingly corrupted. Tyranny, propaganda, mass-media destroy and distort words. They offer us apparent realities whose fictive character threatens to become opaque."
A slight problem with your theory. While the continents change shape on a geological timescale. The web chages a wee bit faster than that. I can't imagine ever knowing where everything is. And even if you did have a comprehensive index of everything, the index would still need to be searched. Or were you going to print it out in alphabetical order and then flip pages to find the website you want to visit?
"World's Biggest Hacker", yes we get the idea. We don't need to read it 4 times before we get to the end of the second sentence.
Yes, and in my experience most of the cracks that you can download on the internet are for closed source applications.
The most sensible thing he seems to say is "I never said I was smart"
Yes, it would have been much more classy if he had just used:
Call Hell(Byref Attorney_General As Object)
Since you used the word thrice, I think this might help:
patten (n.) : Any one of various types of wooden-soled footwear, such as a sandal, shoe, or clog, worn to increase one's height or to keep one's feet out of the mud.
patent (n.) : A grant made by a government that confers upon the creator of an invention the sole right to make, use, and sell that invention for a set period of time.
To quote:
"the question is not whether you will be able to obtain a patent, a patent most certaily will be able to be obtained. In fact, by some estimates well over 90% of all patent applications ripen into some form of an issued United States patent."
And from another example:
The fact that a patent can be obtained or has been obtained does not mean that a valuable asset has been obtained, and this "invention" is a wonderfully vibrant example of that. There must always be consideration given to whether the protection that is or could be obtained is worthwhile to obtain in light of the intended use.
So if Bezos wants to waste his money on lawyers, good for him.