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Humanoid Robot Conducts Beethoven Symphony

me98411 writes "New Scientist is running a front page article about the Sony's QRIO bot [QRIO= Quest for Curiosity] successfully conducted an entire orchestra at the Tokyo Philharmonic Society. An impressive footage of the four bots performing a dance routine can be seen here [wmv format]"

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  1. The Great Maestro... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    In the not so distant future:
    "Oh swell, we'll be conducted by #011278-TY-42 again, always has to have a flair for the dramatic. Too bad old #006273-UO-88 got a virus and it addled his core, he may have had a lazy servo or two, but he was easy to follow."
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  2. Still waiting by An-Unnecessarily-Lon · · Score: 3, Funny

    On my hotsex fembot... Not that I really need one per say....

    1. Re:Still waiting by Bryan_W · · Score: 2, Funny

      You'll get your fembot. Her name is the crushinator

  3. grace by squashed · · Score: 4, Funny
    Successfully conducted?

    Right, with all the grace of a metronome.

    1. Re:grace by gkuz · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...and the warmth of von Karajan...

    2. Re:grace by Talinom · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yup.

      Did it lean toward the section that was to be prominent in the next passage? Did it succeed in getting the attention of the one section (and only that section) that was dragging down the temp? How about deciding that with the particular acoustics at the venue being what they were that the flute section was a bit piercing and decide to have them play a bit quiter?

      Didn't think so.

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    3. Re:grace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Was the whole thing available for download? Did you watch it all?

    4. Re:grace by Senor_Pedo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So true. By the time the orchestra is on stage performing the piece, anyone could stand up there and wave their arms and the music would be pretty good. The real mark of a good conductor is how he prepares the orchestra in rehersal. That is where the artistic vision comes across. Once he demonstrates his idea of how the piece should sound, he can conduct with subtle nuances that are easily understood by the orchestra. But only with good preparation is that possible.

  4. The Three Laws of Robotics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lets hope Sony has designed "The Three Laws of Robotics" into these little bots.

    Surely this would stop them from forming their own boy bands, or should I say Robo Bands.....

    "Back street roboz"

    1. Re:The Three Laws of Robotics by el-spectre · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hell, the 0th law is even more appropriate.

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  5. That poor robot... by Saeger · · Score: 4, Funny
    With a name like "QUEERIO", that poor robot is going to get teased by all the other macho hetero bots until one day it just *snaps* and takes over the world Columbine-style. That's how it happens you know.

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  6. Three Laws of Musical Robotics by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. A robot may not injure a Beatle, or, through inaction, allow a Beatle to come to harm.

    2. A robot must obey the orders given it by roadies except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

    3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not mean playing in a rap band.

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  7. I can just imagine. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tap

    <buffering....>

    Tap

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    Tap

    <buffering....>

    and so on.

  8. robot wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What, if any, development companies in the US are working on robots? It seems like all of the news is about sony, honda, and toyota developing these things. Someone here needs to step up or we'll be left out of the market.

    1. Re:robot wars by DragonMagic · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Development costs and research eat up too much money, plus the fact that robots at this point have mostly an industrial market, rather than a consumer market.

      Japanese firms have constantly pushed money into development of technology that is a loss-maker early on, until its adaption is widespread and cost-effective. The US companies have stockholders to appease, and long-term profits are hardly ever in their best interests.

      On the plus side, after the robotics are easier to make and have far-reaching capabilities, American companies will license or purchase them from the Japanese companies and we'll still have them.

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    2. Re:robot wars by ron_ivi · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Sure there are; but many of the US robotic projects are focused on military applications because that's where the money is in the states.

      For example, this DARPA initiative on Dynamic Mobility "--biologically inspired appendages to demonstrate multifunctional, dynamic, energy efficient and autonomous locomotion to enable revolutionary mobility capabilities such as running over multiple terrains, climbing (trees, cliffs, cave walls), jumping and leaping, and manipulating the world with an appendage in tasks such as grasping and digging. "

      This is in contrast to Japan where I think more of the money is in consumer products. Not surprising to see the different focus in robotics.

  9. Ha! by Sacarino · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those little bastards dance better than I do...

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    1. Re:Ha! by blair1q · · Score: 2, Funny

      But you'll notice, they didn't even attempt to do The Robot.

  10. Humans vrs Robots by mpcarlos · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think humans can do better "the robot" dance than QRIO can do human dance... So 1 point to humans... but in ohter hand, don't think much of us here at ./ can dance, so lets give QRIO 1 point too..

  11. Obligatory Styx Quote by The_Rippa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Domo arigato, Conductor Roboto.

  12. Re:What? by rasafras · · Score: 4, Informative

    Q-RIO -> CURIO, I would imagine.

  13. What's the big deal? by benchbri · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not to say that this isn't a small achievement - I'll respect any company that can build a metre tall robot with fully articulated limbs and fingers, a robot that can break dance, throw a ball, anything like that. These are all goals homebrew robot builders could only imagine in their dreams.

    But if Sony is commited to using these robots as assistants for the elderly, or even be able to walk my dog, it needs a brain.

    I'm not talking about AI here; The'll need to be able to recognize faces, respond to commands, and do daily autonomous tasks (water a house plant, feed the cat, get the paper), at least as well enough to pass a Turing-like test to be useful.

    So far, the only thing I've seen the QIRO do is dance. Once they demonstrate some functionality, I'll be intrested. Now it's just a toy.

    1. Re:What's the big deal? by bobbabemagnet · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yet another hasty response by someone who didn't rtfa. If you read the technology behind QRIO on Sony's website, you'll see that it can walk on uneven and slanted ground, walk with it's center of balance not always over its feet, recognize its location, get up after falling (which it only does when pushed, and even then it recognizes that it is falling and takes measures to protect itself), and then it gets cool. QRIO has voice recognition, face recognition, can carry on conversations and learn new words, and carry stuff.

      This guy is more capable than your average aging grandfather, and probably more able to read an article than your average aging slashdotter.

  14. Damn stupid geeks by JohnGrahamCumming · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who thought of this? Don't you geeks realize that we're not getting the chicks as it is because we can't dance and then you go invent a robot that dances better than us. You know you're not going to be able to send this robot to a nightclub to pick 'em up for you.

    Jeepers.

    How about inventing a robot that beats up jocks instead?

    On the other hand I'd love to see this robot take on a Dance Dance Revolution machine.

    John.

  15. Damn Robots... by spence2680 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dance better than I do! Crap!! I'll be extra impressed when the robots can do DDR. http://www.ddrfreak.com/

  16. Damnit! by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just sent in my application to conducting school. By the time I graduate, all the conducting jobs will be outsourced to robots. Oh well, I guess we should have all seen it coming, much like what happend to assembly and manufacturing plants in the 80s.

  17. Re:if i only had a robot that could do all my work by starworks5 · · Score: 2, Funny

    i would probably be out of a job

    but at least i would have a ^^Wife(not life, but i wouldnt have that either).....

    unless an electrical appliance could give her more pleasure than i can......

    at least i would still have kids.....

    unless they found out i diddnt have a job.

    damn next thing you know were theyre going to take over the world.... everyone destroy all robots, destroy your television, DOWN WITH TECHNOLOGY... UP WITH IMCOMPENTANCE AND IMPERFECTION

  18. Re:Not Impressive by rasafras · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Somebody feels a little insecure about their rhythm.... :-)

    The goal was not for the robot to be the conductor - everybody knows humans are better. In fact, the robot's motion was most likely recorded from a human. The goal is to show that they can, to demonstrate the variety of things the robots can do (physically, for now). I certainly think it's a little less specialized than building a car.

  19. I don't know which is more impressive by way2trivial · · Score: 4, Funny

    the video, or the fact that it still loaded for me near instantly a full 20 minutes after it was posted to slash

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  20. Question by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ""New Scientist is running a front page article about the Sony's QRIO bot [QRIO= Quest for Curiosity] successfully conducted an entire orchestra at the Tokyo Philharmonic Society."

    How is this different from, say, a metronome?

  21. Lawrence Welk Digitized by thirty2bit · · Score: 5, Funny

    And a 01 and a 10 and a 11....

  22. real bad application by chochos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a very bad application of robot technology. A musical director has to have a lot of temper, or the musicians won't respect him and follow him. Plus there are a lot of other things that he has to be good at, some of which I don't think can be implemented in software. Too many variables.
    Having a human director conduct an orchestra of robots wouldn't be good, either; the musicians have to feel the music and infuse some passion into the execution, something I doubt can be simulated with a robot.
    Wasn't the whole idea of having robots to put them to work in incredibly boring and repetitive tasks so that humans could concentrate on some more, well, human tasks, like art? What's the point of a robot conducting an orchestra, allowing human directors to go work at a production line?

    1. Re:real bad application by Neil+Blender · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wasn't the whole idea of having robots to put them to work in incredibly boring and repetitive tasks

      Agreed. They should be working on robotic audience members so we don't have to sit through a symphony.

  23. Perfection by Kjeks · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's both fascinating and scary to watch how precisely and accurate robots can move nowadays.
    But what will happen in a few years when the military develops an army of robots?
    Imagine a dead accurate killer robot that follows all orders blindly and never misses a single bullet.

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  24. Robot Coders by Lord+of+the+Fries · · Score: 2, Funny

    So when can I get a team of these to write our company's mission critical software for me? Then I wouldn't have to pay these pesky overpaid engineers at all. They're so unpredictable.

    What I'm really looking forward to is when I can get a team of Indian made robots to write the code for me. Then it'll be predictable AND cheap.

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  25. Re:Symphonies are self-conducted anyway by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Obviously you've never played in an orchestra. The conductor by far is the most important person out there, from your high school orchestra to the Vienna Philharmonic. The problem with your theory is that every musician has a different theory as to how a piece should sound. Try buying a few CDs of the same concerto played by different people. They are entirely different in all ways except the notes. The conductor is there to make sure all the musicians are playing the same version of the piece, not their own personal rendition of it.

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  26. jaw-dropping.. by moviepig.com · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I may be naive, but I thought the robot-dance footage was astonishing.

    My immediate reaction was that it was CGI movie fakery. In fact, many moviegoers think the "perfect" motion of CGI objects is not merely unrealistic but also physically impossible.

    Watch this footage, and think again.

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    1. Re:jaw-dropping.. by lommer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, I thought the dance was pretty amazing - I had no idea that we'd come that far in robotics. However, I watched it a few times and if you focus on the feet, you realize that they're mostly just waving their arms, and their feet are making very small steps left, forward, turning, etc. The armwaving is considerably easier to manage in robotics, unless it's standing on one foot (notice that the robots didn't wave their arms much when they did that little demo of standing on one foot (mind you, I know plenty of humans that can't do that).

      Still a pretty damn impressive show. The actuation in the arms was especially convincing. I'd like to see it in person actually.

  27. Whatev' by nfotxn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What a great PR stunt. Anyone who has ever played in a professional ensemble knows that a rehearsed orchestra can conduct itself almost flawlessly.

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    1. Re:Whatev' by van+der+Rohe · · Score: 2, Informative
      Anyone who has ever played in a professional ensemble knows that a rehearsed orchestra can conduct itself almost flawlessly.

      Provided that the music being played is strictly metronomic and from the common practice period. In fact, anything later than say, middle period Beethoven would be a disaster without a conductor.

      The problem is that music in the High Classical period and after started to use rubato, fermatas, and numerous tempo changes. 80+ people on stage simply can't coordinate that without a leader.

      And we're just talking about rhythm - this says nothing about balance issues in the hall, etc.
  28. Re:Symphonies are self-conducted anyway by Jboy_24 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My parents were both distiguished concert players and they're opinion on the matter was that the conductor really only mattered in rehersal.

    Once they were playing in the performance, they really didn't notice him unless they needed to keep time for a long long rest.

    In that context, your comments about the conductor are valid but really don't disprove your parents point.

    To get a feeling about how important a conductor is during the performance, just imagine what would happen if the conductor tried to change something funidmental! He could only count on part of his symphony paying attention, so only pieces of it would do realize what he was trying to do.

  29. Somehow by Tedium+Unleased · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think this is more of a statement about how easy a conductor's job is rather than how far robotics have progressed.

  30. How are you not impressed... by quantax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really don't understand why people are unimpressed with the dancing robots. Even if theyre programmed to do the dance routine, its still damn impressive. I'm not sure how familiar people are with bipedal movement, but its not as simple as you think; it takes a fairly complex series of motions to keep you balanced as you move, especially when walking or running. One thing you'll notice with the robots is that that balance every motion: this is not an easy feat, especially with the relative smoothness with which they are moving around. So once more, getting robots to do robotic things is easy (robotic arm that welds stuff), where as getting a robot to mimic life (bipedal walking around) and people is most definitely difficult, forget whatever you've seen in Hollywood.

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  31. Conducting Clip by Alien54 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Link to the page with a video clip of the conducting.

    Which will confuse some folks because of the alot of the music is not written to be precisely on the beat. (anticipations, etc)

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