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Rocket Science vs. Barry Bonds

Ray Radlein writes "How about a good old-fashioned Sports story? With its multitude of different statistical measures, baseball has always had the highest Geek Quotient of any major sport. Alpha Geeks of Baseball have included former relief pitcher Rob Murphy, who put his Computer Science degree to good use writing software to evaluate thoroughbred race horses, and Boston Red Sox ace and probable future Hall of Famer Curt Schilling, who not only runs a company that makes hex-based war games, but once got embroiled in an on-field feud due to Everquest. However, Baseball Geeks have a new hero to look up to: Jason Szuminski, who on Sunday became the first MIT graduate to pitch in a major league baseball game. His degree in Aerospace Engineering must have stood him in good stead as he observed the ballistic trajectory of a Barry Bonds fly ball which just barely stayed inside the Padres' new stadium."

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  1. Well... by TheKidWho · · Score: 5, Funny

    All this talk about projectile motion is making me itch to play a game of grand theft auto

    1. Re:Well... by raider_red · · Score: 4, Funny

      Forget the games. I'm going to the shooting range.

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  2. MIT Grads by jazman_777 · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...His degree in Aerospace Engineering must have stood him in good stead as he observed the ballistic trajectory of a Barry Bonds fly ball...

    He's only doing a case study.

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  3. Gravity by PepsiProgrammer · · Score: 4, Funny

    One might say Bonds fought he law, and the law won.

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  4. What? You want a Prada? by mikeophile · · Score: 4, Funny
    For the last few seasons, the Padres reliever with the least experience has to carry a pink Barbie backpack filled with candy, sunflower seeds and whatever else relievers like to have during games. The low man carries it out to the bullpen.

    "But what's the bag going to look like?" Szuminski asked.

    Methinks this guy has been watching a little too much Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.

    Oh well, at least he's a pitcher and not a catcher.

  5. sequence by name773 · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. get killed by your friend in everquest
    2. get back at him by hitting two home runs
    3. take down the espn servers by linking it to slashdot
    4. ???
    5. profit!

    1. Re:sequence by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You've got to be kidding me.
      Go.com is the 21st most trafficked site on the web. (Over half of that is for ESPN.)

      Slashdot is 1000+

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    2. Re:sequence by aridhol · · Score: 4, Informative

      But Alexa determines rank by the installation of spyware. Most slashdotters know enough about spyware to not have Alexa installed.

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  6. There is a future in Baseball for Geeks by Pave+Low · · Score: 5, Informative
    and it's not on the field. It's in the front office.

    The generation of Moneyball General Managers is here. Billy Beane, John DePodesta (Harvard), Theo Epstein (Yale) are paving the way for seamheads who know baseball and use statistical analysis to build their teams.

    Now, there's hope for geeks with math and statistics degrees who want to break into baseball.

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    1. Re:There is a future in Baseball for Geeks by Aardpig · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now, there's hope for geeks with math and statistics degrees who want to break into baseball.

      Let's face it, however, they still won't get laid.

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  7. Most Geek Sport - I think not by spindizzy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "With its multitude of different statistical measures, baseball has always had the highest Geek Quotient of any major sport."
    You might want to check out cricket, www.cricinfo.org and Wisden for some serious stats.
    Not to mention that with all the offshoring to India there's a huge cricket loving geek population there. Baseball's only a fairly minor sport in world terms.

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    1. Re:Most Geek Sport - I think not by Speed+Racer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Baseball's only a fairly minor sport in world terms.

      Quick, name the countries that have won Olympic gold medals in cricket.

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    2. Re:Most Geek Sport - I think not by spindizzy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So curling is a major world sport by that metric? Ice dancing too? See how many people tuned into the last Cricket World Cup final and compare it with the 'World' Series.

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    3. Re:Most Geek Sport - I think not by Speed+Racer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, there are only two countries where the teams actually are based but Major League Baseball players have been born in the following countries: United States, Australia, Bahamas, Canada, Colombia, Cuba, Curacao, Dominican Republic, England, France, Germany, Holland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Nicaragua, Puerto Rico, Panama, Scotland, South Korea, Virgin Islands, Venezuela, W.Germany, Norway, Wales, Sweden, Afghanistan, Spain , Greece , Taiwan, Philippines, Russia, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Jamaica, Poland, Aruba, Okinawa , Russia , South Vietnam, Denmark, Switzerland, Singapore, China, Austria, Belgium, British Honduras, Finland, Spain, Netherlands , American Samoa, Honduras,

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    4. Re:Most Geek Sport - I think not by rm007 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't know why I am responding to an AC, but for the record, and to clear this up once and for all, the World Series is not named so as to imply global significance, its orginal sponsor was a newspaper called the New York World.

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    5. Re:Most Geek Sport - I think not by rgmoore · · Score: 5, Insightful
      You might want to check out cricket, www.cricinfo.org and Wisden for some serious stats.

      Perhaps it is you who needs to be enlightened. A brief look at the stats glossary at Baseball Prospectus might show you just how far out the geekier baseball fans are willing to go. Some other sites of interest include Baseball Reference, which contains complete statistics for every player ever to appear in a major league game, and Retrosheet, an organization attempting to gather historical play-by-play information on every game in MLB history. The detail put into these things is frightening.

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    6. Re:Most Geek Sport - I think not by AaronBS · · Score: 5, Informative
      World Series is not named so as to imply global significance, its orginal sponsor was a newspaper called the New York World.

      Actually a quick google search reveals otherwise.

    7. Re:Most Geek Sport - I think not by jackbird · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, and the damn Miss Universe pageant is rigged: Earth always wins.

    8. Re:Most Geek Sport - I think not by Moofie · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why are we having a pissing contest about the two most boring sports ever?

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  8. How embarrassing... by FrYGuY101 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everquest players caught playing baseball... how tragic!

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  9. What? by greygent · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's the mathematical symbol for steroids and how would you represent it in your equation?

  10. Like my father used to say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's no crying in math.

    1. Re:Like my father used to say by eupheric · · Score: 4, Funny

      John von Neumann was my Ph.D advisor, and he called me a talking pile of pigshit! And that was when my parents drove all the way down from Michigan to see me give my dissertation defense! And did I cry? NO! NO! And do you know why? BECAUSE THERE'S NO CRYING IN MATH!

  11. o_O by TechnologyX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot... sports? You do realize that would involve getting up and moving right?

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    1. Re:o_O by quantaman · · Score: 3, Funny

      Slashdot... sports? You do realize that would involve getting up and moving right?


      Baseball... moving? You do realize that most of baseball involves sitting still on a bench, or standing still in a field, right?

      (sorry baseball fans who will now start flaming me:)

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  12. But wait... by re-Verse · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought that cricket had the highest geek quotient out of all the sports, since you need some kind of technical degree to understand WTF is going on in the game.

  13. Re:Curt Schilling, -NOT- a HOF'er. by kalidasa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Schilling is likely to make it to at least 40, at an average of 15 games per season if he stays healthy and plays with a winning team (he managed four 15 or more win seasons and one 14-win season in *Philadelphia* for heaven's sake), giving him about 209 wins over 20 seasons. I'd say he's on the cusp, given how poor some of those Philadelphia teams were, and how good his first two seasons with Arizona were.

  14. Doug Glanville is THE alpha baseball geek by UVABlows · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The guy that Schilling played everquest with, Doug Glanville has got to be the reigning baseball alpha geek. Check out the articles he wrote for espn.com. I am sure they are going to hire him when he decides to hang up cleats. Stark loves to interview him.

    Trip to africa - http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=173085 1
    Astronomy club - http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=177197 8

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  15. Oh, Cricket is easy by dupper · · Score: 3, Funny

    You simply must hit the williard into some cilium with your fracaman. And remeber: it doesn't matter who wins. It matters who wins three times in a row. Tally ho!

  16. A geek attempts to interpret baseball by SnappingTurtle · · Score: 5, Funny
    Bonds remained on hold with 659 homers
    Oh, like that episode of the Simpsons where the hammock makes clones of Homer?

    after failing to connect for the fifth straight game
    Then get a new dial-up service!

    although he was intentionally walked
    They're taking that Petco thing too far.

    and scored in the five-run eighth inning
    Look, let's keep that kinda thing private... but scored with who?

    "I'd like to do it at home," said Bonds
    <butt-head>heh-heh heh-heh, he said "do it"</butt-head>

    got Bonds to fly out to left
    Cool! Like what the flying chair everybody thought the Segway was going to be?

    San Diego's bullpen fell apart in the eighth
    They obviously didn't engineer that structure very well.

    San Diego manager Bruce Bochy had his only lefty reliever
    Sounds like my adolescence.

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  17. Re:Curt Schilling, -NOT- a HOF'er - YET by JordanH · · Score: 3, Insightful
    • And Schilling's a much better pitcher than Ryan.
    I disagree. Ryan is better than Schilling lifetime in many important statistics like ERA and SO. I could see a claim that Schilling at his best was as good as Ryan at his best (although Ryan's 1.69 ERA season of '81 is hard to beat), but you can't credibly claim that Schilling is a much better pitcher than Ryan.

    Of course, these statistics aside, Ryan's No Hitter record combined with his longevity near the top make him a shoe-in for the HOF, things that Schilling will find hard to match. Ryan was a shoe-in, though, so Schilling could get in, too.

  18. "How about a good old-fashioned Sports story? by brianc · · Score: 4, Funny

    What is this Sports of which you speak?

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  19. What about Curt? by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Informative
    The guy that Schilling played everquest with, Doug Glanville has got to be the reigning baseball alpha geek

    How about Curt Schilling himself, who carries a powerbook on the road and has quicktime clips and a database of hundreds of batters?

    Reportedly he also spent time on a famous red sox chat board the night before he signed with the sox, trying to make up his mind whether he should sign...and convince everyone he really was Curt Schilling(he managed to, after instantly returning questions on his career stats that, according to friends, would have taken a "good baseball researcher" at least 5-10 minutes to find).

    He finished up VERY late that night(well, morning) by saying essentially "Thanks, I've decided to sign with the sox, I've always heard red sox fans were the most knowledgeable, you guys have proved it". A few hours later(heh) at the press conference, John Henry(who also logged in at one point) joked(along the lines of) "and in Curt's contract is a clause prohibiting him from staying up past midnight talking on internet chat boards the day before a game."

  20. It ain't just the players. by endquotedotcom · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The Seattle Weekly just did cover story on amateur baseball stats geeks who claim to know more than MLB:
    "It is a wonderful thing to know you are right and the rest of the world is wrong." Bill James wrote those words nearly 20 years ago in one of his groundbreaking series of annual Baseball Abstract books. The founding father of the objective performance analysis movement came to realize that baseball is the one game in which virtually every aspect of performance can be measured and value-weighted through the compilation and analysis of statistics, in much the same way a business can use data about sales and revenue, weigh them against market-force indicators, and make quarterly projections about expected future performance. He found that the statistics can be used to predict, with reasonable accuracy, what teams will win and which players will be effective. James also found, to his surprise, that the people who ran Major League Baseball organizations didn't much give a shit.
  21. Re:WHAT AN IDIOT by Omerna · · Score: 3, Informative

    It was invented to keep the team in the field from getting two outs whenever the bases were loaded or there were men on 1st and 2nd and the batter popped up in the infield (or shallow outfield, umpire's disgression).

    The reasoning was: the runners had no chance to get out of a double play. The fielder could choose to catch the ball (and double up the runner) or drop the ball (and make an easy double play). The runner was damned if he ran to break up the DP or damned if stayed on base to keep from getting doubled up. Now the team in the field just gets one (automatic) out.

    But I guess you probably weren't serious.

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  22. Re:Baseball may have highest Geek Quotient, but... by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I certainly agree that football involves a lot more thinking and planning than people usually credit.

    If you're up at, like, 3:00 AM or so during football season, ESPN has a show called Edge NFL Matchup, hosted by Suzy Kolber, Ron Jaworski, and, er, some other guy whose name has just flown out of my head. A lot of the show is stock football stuff, but every so often they will break down not just the execution of plays, but their design -- and it can be quite fascinating.

    I remember watching them explain one play where they went over every last bit of it for like five minutes or so, explaining what every player on offense was doing, and what the expected defensive reactions would be; and the upshot of it was a play where, basically, every last player was involved in some specific set of actions designed solely for the purpose of getting the right cornerback to turn his hips slightly towards the inside of the field at just the wrong moment, so that the receiver could break off his move. It was so intricate, so meticulously planned, and so well explained, that I can't imagine any True Geek not getting a rush out of it. Their explanation, with the film, and the diagrams and arrows they superimposed, was like single-stepping through an elegant piece of code in a good debugging environment, watching all the variables change just so as everything falls into place.