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Thermoacoustic Cooler Means Green-Friendly Icecream

MuddyRiverDoc writes "National Public Radio aired a story describing ice cream manufacturer Ben & Jerry's sponsored development of a thermoacoustic refrigeration technology, which uses helium gas subjected to ultra-loud 173 db sound to chill an ice cream cooler. The NPR interview and pictures of the Penn State researchers who did the development is available. There is also a brief description of the technique at the Penn State Live site and at the BBC, and an over-cute Ben & Jerry's broadband presentation, Sounds Cool!, that does however provide a useful diagram. Thermoacoustic refrigeration has been a focus of research for more than a decade at Purdue and elsewhere, and has reportedly flown on the Space Shuttle, but this prototype is reportedly the first that demonstrates the size, efficiency, and quiet operation that promises successful commercial introduction. Cool Sound Industries, Inc. is reportedly exclusively licensed for this thermoacoustic technology."

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  1. Parties by Mikkeles · · Score: 4, Funny

    So does this mean that noisy, drunken parties will be cooler than quiet, staid cocktail parties?

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  2. Great by osullish · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I can buy that new kick-ass sound system without worrying about that new fridge my wife has been hounding me about and not feel guilty!

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  3. Same Energy as Freon Systems by N8F8 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I heard this interview on the radio. Apparently the process doesn't save any energy. It doesn't use ozone depleting chemicals though. Unless it ends up being much less expensive to manufacture I doubt it will go anywhere.

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    1. Re:Same Energy as Freon Systems by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nowadays "Green Friendly" means something that you can print on a flyer to drive sales, not something that has anything to do with the enviroment. We've already done away with freon.

      I like watching the recent phenomenon of both wood and plastic products being promoted as "Green Friendly," One, because it's, like, natural, organic, renewable and shit, and the other because, like, it's a recycled resource and doesn't require cutting down any huggable trees and shit ( and I can only surmise the latter have never been to the Newark area. Well known for cracking plants. Very few trees.)

      Every product is "Green Friendly," if you know how to write the brochure to make it that way.

      KFG

    2. Re:Same Energy as Freon Systems by Fian · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There is another disadvantage - Helium is a finite resource (excluding fusion). A lot of our current supply of helium is collected almost as a by-product of natural gas mining. When the supply runs out, which is anticipated to happen with a few decades, there won't be any liquid helium for super cooling or *gasp* for your party balloons - let alone to chill your groceries

  4. Peltier cooler? by beldraen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Out of curiosity, is there a reason why peltier coolers haven't been more main stream? I even have a small cooler that uses one, but it seems the idea of making it into larger appliances is something not which of thought.

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    1. Re:Peltier cooler? by Geiger581 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Peltier coolers are very inefficient in terms of heat shift. Right now, the best known materials aren't much more than ~10% of Carnot (thermodynamically limited) efficiency. This means that they produce a lot of heat to move just a little. This is why your Peltier block will get pretty chilly on one side but scalding hot on the other and why CPU Peltier rigs virtually require a water block to operate. Standard phase-change coolers are much better, and these new devices (haven't read the article yet) may be even better.

    2. Re:Peltier cooler? by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Informative

      They opperate at 5% efficiency, while top end refrigeration is at 45%. Instead, these guy should be looking at cool chips, which opperate at 55% efficiency.

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  5. I'm amazed B&J's still operates semi-autonomou by Kuad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When Unilever bought them out, most of us (shareholders, that is) assumed B&J's would get folded into the corporate machine and lose some of its identity. It's good to see that they've sort of remained a seperate entity that just happens to be owned by a corporate giant.

  6. Re:noisy by br0ck · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, here's yet another link that says..

    But from the outside, it's no noisier than your typical icebox. The noise generated by the Penn State fridge can only be reached when the gas is under tremendous amounts of pressure -- 10 atmospheres worth. If the gas escapes, the pressure dissipates and the sound dies down.

  7. Re:This stuff works by Brento · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ever see people driving down the street with their radio so loud their car buzzes. They're pretty cool right?

    It also explains why I yell at those morons to "Chill out!", they just turn the volume up even louder.

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  8. What if Master P really was the Ice Cream Man? by ProppaT · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Yo B, turn that sh*t down..."

    "Naw man, it's cool...just makin' ice cream"

    "Word"

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  9. Oh no by Woogiemonger · · Score: 4, Funny

    So they've taken "We all scream for ice cream!" literally?

  10. Not at all... by cnelzie · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...the system works with the 'woofer' producing the single note within a sealed container. From what I heard on NPR, the sound is no more loud then walking into a large server room and hearing the fans run. It's just a bit deeper of a sound.

    Inside the canister there's 198 Decibels going on... That would shatter your ear drums and make your eyes bleed (possibly) pretty quick I understand...

    Outside the container all your hear is a regular humming noise at one frequency...

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  11. Question by (ana!)a · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hi, I live in Canada and I've always wondered why we didn't have a fridge that would take advantage of the outside temperature ? I mean, when it gets down to -20s celcius and you spend a lot of energy heating your house to +20 celcius, then you spend some more energy to cool down the fridge inside the house (although it actually participates in heating up your house), it sounds kind of ridiculous, don't you think ? Is there a particular reason for this ? Maybe it wouldn't be of much use for anyone but canadians, russians, norvegian and the like, but still... I've always known there was a link between noise and temperature... After all, my fridge sure is noisy !

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  12. "Quiet operation"? by adrianbaugh · · Score: 4, Funny

    173dB is quiet? Was your previous job in the PR department of a CPU fan manufacturer?

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  13. "quiet operation"? by roseblood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "thermoacoustic refrigeration technology, which uses helium gas subjected to ultra-loud 173 db sound."

    I know...RTFA, but...I did read the FA. Problem is I must have read the wrong one (so many links here.)

    Whatever they use to keep the 173db sound locked inside the box, I want. I'll use it to line my appartment walls, as I'm tired of hearing the latest crap..err...latest top 40 hit being blasted by my neighbor's juvenile deliq..err...teenager.

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  14. I heard that by N8F8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A class I was taking last semester was being taught by a retired NASA program manager who mentioned the helium scarcity. Most of the world's helium is "mined" in Texas, so if this were handled correctly it could lead to quite the litte technology monopoly. OTOH, if helium were to become more scarce on earth I pretty sure someone would find an alternative source.

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  15. Refrigeration efficiencies compared by Geiger581 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Reported maximums (research-only included) in terms of Carnot efficiency:
    Stirling-cycle (phase-change): ~50%
    Peltier junction (solid state): ~10%
    Thermoacoustics (standing wave in gas): ~40%

    Using a 'speaker fridge' now would be quite wasteful in terms of efficiency, although researchers believe that they can surpass the old CFC-type compressors soon.

    The question that comes to my mind, though, is why the focus on the cooling itself. For a non-emissive object like ice cream, better energy conservation may be more easily achieved through better insulation. How about investing in cheaper silica aerogel, hippies? This stuff is virtually as light as air, essentially made of sand, almost as insulative as pure vacuum, and fairly strong. Having a cooling engine without any ozone-depleting chemicals is great, but it's kind of silly if your freezers still have interior styrofoam lining.

  16. Heard this on NPR yesterday by Lebo · · Score: 4, Informative

    First off, the 190db figure is the sound level INSIDE the unit. Acording to the reporter, the sound level outside the unit was no louder then a standard cooling unit.
    From the description of given, the tech sounds interesting. They use a powerfull speaker to create areas of high and low preassure in the chamber. In the areas of low preassure they place tubes which run to the cold case. In the areas of high pressure they place tubes which run to an external heat exchanger to vent the waste heat.
    I can definately see this technology comeing into widespread use in the future, as stricter enviromental controls continue to restrict conventional refirgerants. I also wonder how well it would work in an automotive setting, where the high level of vibration makes coolant loss more of an issue.

  17. Three Observations by MooseByte · · Score: 4, Funny

    - How eco-friendly is the helium extraction process? Off the top of my head I believe it's fine, but are there any hidden eco-hostile effects in its production? Probably still far better than the method it replaces.

    - Have they experimented with different sound sources for the 173dB? Playing Barry White could produce seriousness smoothness...

    - Will they equip the Refrigerator Gnome that controls the internal light with OSHA-approved protective headphones, or will a generation of the little critters be doomed to deafness? (Don't laugh, I saw one of them in my 'fridge once after a Dead concert.)

  18. The Hilsch Vortex Tube by ch-chuck · · Score: 4, Informative

    I always liked these - not too hard to make, but also not as effecient as other methodes. Apply compressed air, tube gets hot on one end and cold on the other.

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  19. Ice cream plants are already enviromentally safe by chrisatslashdot · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This technology may be great for retail coolers and the like but virtually all ice cream plants already use an environmentally safe refrigerant. Anhydrous ammonia is the refrigerant of choice for industrial applications.
    • It causes no ozone depletion
    • It does not contribute to global warming
    • It has heat transfer characteristics 1.6 to 4 times that of HFCs and CFCs
    • It requires 1.22 HP per ton of refrigeration (versus 1.27 for R134a and 1.25 for R22 this can be important when you have 10,000 HP engine rooms)
    • It cost $0.25/lb (versus $3.40 to $25.00 for HFCs and CFCs) Important when you have hundreds of thousands of pounds of charge.
    • It is lighter than air (unlike HFCs and CFCs) so releases typically float away
    • It has a narrow window of explosive concentration that is difficult to achive LEL:16% UEL:25%(its is hard to make it go boom)
    • It is a naturally occuring chemical. Your body make ammonia.
    • Its pungent odor is 'self-alarming'. You will leave an atmosphere of ammonia long before concentration levels reach dangerous limits.

    The reason you don't have ammonia in your car and home is that exposure to the chemical in concentrations above 300ppm poses health risk. 30 minutes of exposure above 1720ppm can cause death and 5,000ppm is rapidly fatal. It should never be used in a run-to-failure, zero maintenance system like your kitchen fridge or AC unit.

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