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A Running Shoe For Agent 86?

manganese4 writes "The New York Times (free reg. req.) is reporting on a new shoe from Adidas that contains a ~10KHz chip capable of changing the shoe's characteristics to meet the runner's need. From the article: 'Adidas executives say the shoe is no gadget-dependent gimmick... Each second, a sensor in the heel can take up to 20,000 readings and the embedded electronic brain can make 10,000 calculations, directing a tiny electric motor to change the shoe. The goal is to make the shoe adjust to changing conditions and the runner's particular style while in use. The shoes will have push-button controls, light-emitting diodes to display settings and an instruction manual on a CD-ROM that will advise wearers on, among other things, how to change the battery after every 100 hours of use.' I wonder if the CPU can be overclocked?"

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  1. Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    But does it run linux?

    1. Re:Yeah by b4k4 · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's not x86 processors the title is referring to. Agent 86 was Maxwell Smart (played by Don Adams) in the '60s TV series "Get Smart."

      You know, ther guy with the phone in his shoe?

    2. Re:Yeah by misof · · Score: 5, Funny

      You know, this actually could be the first time some device would run Linux...

    3. Re:Yeah by MrIrwin · · Score: 4, Funny
      " You know, this actually could be the first time some device would run Linux..."

      Not to mention boot it ;-)

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    4. Re:Yeah by flewp · · Score: 3, Funny

      And for the first time you could run on (top of) linux!

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  2. Imagine... by Unipuma · · Score: 5, Funny

    .. the stench of a Beowulf cluster of these things....

    1. Re:Imagine... by Excen · · Score: 4, Funny

      Forget about the smell, imagine the chaos you could cause at the Boston Marathon with a good virus!

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  3. What, no Bluetooth connection to the wristwatch? by Animats · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can't tune the thing while running? That is so lame.

  4. Durability over Lifetime? by AlaskanUnderachiever · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Wow! The durability of a computer in a shoe!

    Does anyone else thing it's a bad idea to throw these sorts of components into something that's going to take a few hundred thousand 100kg (or more depending on speed/weight/height) impacts?

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    1. Re:Durability over Lifetime? by plasm4 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Does anyone else thing it's a bad idea to throw these sorts of components into something that's going to take a few hundred thousand 100kg (or more depending on speed/weight/height) impacts?
      perhaps the target market is the slashdot crowd. I doubt sitting in front of a computer 18 hours a day will tax them very much.

      /trying to get this karma whoring thing down
    2. Re:Durability over Lifetime? by Monkelectric · · Score: 2, Interesting
      you must not be a jogger? If you jog every day a pair of running shoes lasts 6 months ... if you don't, you don't need these shoes :)

      Actually I'd be worried about how to wash them? I wash my running shoes with bleach every few months ... kills the bacteria

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  5. Crazy runners... by sn0wcrash · · Score: 5, Funny

    These running fanatics have a screw loose. They spend a fortune on these fancy shoes looking to improve their perfomance. Yet they always get beaten by some guy from Africa that's never even owned a pair of shoes.

    1. Re:Crazy runners... by nacturation · · Score: 4, Funny

      Reminds me of a Jack Handey:

      Once I wept for I had no shoes. Then I came across a man who had no feet, so I took his shoes. I mean, it's not like he really needed them.

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    2. Re:Crazy runners... by tuxette · · Score: 4, Informative
      I don't think very many serious runners would buy these shoes. A lot of people I know who are serious runners (marathon etc.) have a hard enough time detaching themselves from their old worn down shoes. When they do buy new shoes, they know what they need for their feet and terrain; they don't need a chip to tell them what they already know.

      These high-tech shoes seem like something that would appeal more to the wannabes. It's their money, so...

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    3. Re:Crazy runners... by antic · · Score: 5, Funny


      Never criticise a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Then, you'll be a mile away, and you'll have his shoes! ;)

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    4. Re:Crazy runners... by trentblase · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Plus, for serious runners every single ounce counts. When you run a marathon, a single ounce translates into a non-discountable excess energy expenditure.

      cough... Shoe-PU... cough

    5. Re:Crazy runners... by Molina+the+Bofh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      On the other hand, there are MUCH more occasional runners, like those who jog for health benefits, or even fun, than professional runners. Not necessarily wannabes. Not everyone wants to be a professional runner.

      So there is market for it. It just depends on the price tag.

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    6. Re:Crazy runners... by genus+babbage · · Score: 2, Informative

      Any serious runner will be replacing their shoes every few hundred miles or so; unless they want to become serious hobblers later in life.

  6. Sport Legality? by Renraku · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In things like track competitions or marathons, should such 'active' measures be allowed? I mean, what if I had a pair of smart shoes that were attached to a motorcycle...

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    1. Re:Sport Legality? by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 4, Funny
      ...what if I had a pair of smart shoes that were attached to a motorcycle...

      Then you'd probably be dragged to your death.

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    2. Re:Sport Legality? by rizzo420 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      when it comes down to it, the shoe is not going to make the difference between teh winner and the loser. in fact, these shoes would probably be more of a hinderance in a race than anything else. with a motor and all that other stuff, they're gonna weigh more. it won't be all that much more, but enough to make a difference. plus peopel generally have specific shoes for training and shoes for racing. these would be more of a training thing than a racing thing since training can be harder on your feet/body than the actual race. they don't actively improve your performance like other sporting equipment, they actively improve your comfort. yes i realize comfort can improve your performance, but you're gonna want something very lightweight for the race itself.

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    3. Re:Sport Legality? by Renraku · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This wouldn't be such a big thing at this point. It would give a little advantage, but the best would probably still be the best. The problem is that this would open a whole new can of worms. Then you would have judges spending their time approving or disapproving other active measures as well, and less runners actually in it for the spirit of the run.

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    4. Re:Sport Legality? by rizzo420 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      the article says nothing about helping set your pace. the comfort of a shoe does not help one set their pace. i used to set my pace through my breathing, my shoes, no matter how worn out, had nothing to do with my pace. i don't see how a continuously changing shoe will help you.

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  7. Human feet by ObviousGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Human feet have thousands upon thousands of sensor sites and they feed back information to the brain which can process all the information in parallel and recognize even the slightest change in environment and adjust accordingly.

    So bare feet are better than these new shoes.

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    1. Re:Human feet by beeplet · · Score: 4, Funny

      Quite true, but given the choice between having my shoes adjust to stepping on a rock or having my feet do it the old-fashioned way by sending thousands of pain signals to my brain, I think I'll go with the shoe...

    2. Re:Human feet by tuxette · · Score: 4, Informative
      You're in on something there. There are quite a few elite runners who train/compete barefoot. For example, Abebe Bikila won his first Olympic marathon running barefoot, and broke the world record.

      Here's another interesting site regarding barefoot running/marathoning.

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    3. Re:Human feet by shird · · Score: 2, Informative

      And do they adjust by giving you more support under the arch of your foot, or increasing the 'suspension' under your heel? You might adjust the way you plant your foot down, but you cant dynamically physically change the support around your foot.

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    4. Re:Human feet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      But walking barefoot is against the very spirit of the US Constitution! Dozens of American shoe factory bosses have invested many years of their time, and billions of dollars of other people's money, in creating a product that fulfils the ultimate objective of what a shoe is supposed to be: a source of revenue for the company directors. If a person goes barefoot, then they are denying those shoe company directors their birthright, which is to make as much money as possible!

      Shoes are necessary to protect one of God's most precious creations, the delicate and beautiful white human foot, from disease and infection -- and also to prevent the decadence and chaos that would otherwise ensue if people were to go around exposing their naked bodies in public. A woman who goes barefoot is clearly a whore. What other parts of her body is she willing to expose? Her arms? Her legs? Her breasts? Her genitals? It is clear that there is a need for a well-defined rules and limits, otherwise we would descend into anarchy.

      Going barefoot is a thoroughly un-American practice which takes the food directly out of shoe company directors' mouths. I don't think a person should be treated any more leniently if they go barefoot, than if they had stolen a pair of expensive shoes from a store!

      So, patriotic citizens of the USA, I call upon you to wear your shoes with pride. Though they be made by children in Vietnam who are refused a drink of water if they are not working hard enough, much of the money spent upon them remains in the United States of America -- and besides which, the gooks are a bunch of Godless heathens, so they do not count as real people anyway. If you see any suspicious barefoot people in the streets, you should dial 911 immediately and report them as a potential terrorist, for the benefit of God-fearing Americans everywhere. God Bless America!

  8. When it's hacked. by fuqqer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Rather than kids tying another's laces together, well have them hacking in and turning someone soles rock hard for the day.

  9. A battery on a running shoe. Think about this... by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Couldnt they have talked to Swatch or something? Why the hell should a running shoe need a battery? I mean, that's the whole point.. you RUN in them! Kinetic energy, right there! FREE for the taking!

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  10. Funny maths? by MrIrwin · · Score: 2, Interesting
    A 10KHz chip sounds like a nice low power solution for a running shoe.

    Assuming that is the clock rate, 20,000 readings and 10,000 calculations per second does sound a bit excessive, especcialy as the calculations must involve at least 2 readings.

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  11. Google link. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  12. what a gimmick by kaltkalt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please. I mean, this is like saying the Reebok Pump was "analog technology capable of generating an infinite number of support positions." GIMMICK. Nothing more. But get a famous basketball player to endorse it, charge $200 for it, and it'll fly off the shelves.

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    1. Re:what a gimmick by glaHHg · · Score: 4, Informative

      Tell me about it. Here's all the detailed info on what it actually does, straight out of the article:

      alters its physical properties
      would change to your different needs
      change
      adjust
      changes its characteristics
      adapts its cushioning

      Hmmm so wtf does it actually do?? Looks like the same thing the pump does but without the pump.

    2. Re:what a gimmick by MacroRex · · Score: 2, Funny

      But the company says it's not a gimmick! It's right there in the story. Do you mean that everything in the intarweb may not be true?

    3. Re:what a gimmick by devilspgd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Here on /. we assume that the article will be filled with lies, and as a result, don't bother with the article in the first place.

      It all makes perfect sense.

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    4. Re:what a gimmick by Epistax · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just think... In 20 years we'll be able to buy $1000 shoes that make us feel barefoot.

    5. Re:what a gimmick by mlu035 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      IIRC, the Pump was all about the fit of the trainer, as it inflated the tongue area to better surround the upper part of the foot. It was an alternative to laces was it not? This sounds more like changing the dynamics of the sole, which I can see being useful on alternating surface races (cross country perhaps), but not much else.

      As a semi-serious runner, I think it will probably not sell among anyone who is already clued up about the type of footwear they require until Adidas can prove equivocally that it can shave seconds off performance times. Most serious runners already know their ideal shoe, and it's more about pronation and body mechanics affecting running style than energy return from the sole.

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    6. Re:what a gimmick by Rick.C · · Score: 2, Funny
      Stupid people make stupid things profitable.

      That's what everyone said when I bought my pet rock, Eroc, but who's laughing now?

      I take Eroc running with me and I'm getting two pairs of these cool new computerized shoes! One pair for me, one shoe for Eroc, and the fouth can be a hot backup shoe in case one of the other three crashes.

      Ha! Envy me, you barefoot-running, low-tech, posers! While you're soaking your feet in low-tech Epsom salts after a run, Eroc and I will be recharging our batteries and trying to get our shoes to run Linux!

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  13. Sport Legal? by Intocabile · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've only ever seen passive electronics in sports equipment; this shoe won't be legal in most professional sports.

  14. Crash? by BigZaphod · · Score: 4, Funny

    So if it crashes, do you trip and fall? Boy, that'd suck on stairs...

    1. Re:Crash? by prockcore · · Score: 2, Funny

      So if it crashes, do you trip and fall? Boy, that'd suck on stairs...

      Think of it as a built-in bitchslap from the manufacturer.. for being stupid enough to buy this thing.

  15. Good for astroturf use by nacturation · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So... a 10KHz chip can make 10,000 calculations per second? Sure, as long as all those calculations take only 1 clock cycle each. And what good is a sensor that can take 20,000 samples per second if the CPU isn't powerful enough to even make use of all of them?

    Honestly, what's the point? If the goal is to change the shoe characteristics, why not include a little adjustable screw so the wearer can manually change various tensions? This sounds like a lousy solution in search of a problem, and a badly marketed one at that.

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  16. login stuff by Errtu76 · · Score: 4, Informative

    for all who don't/can't register:
    u/p: nytslashdot

  17. It's just another imbedded system by Trespass · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Make it solid state and durable. You should have no problems with something that amounts to little more than a processor, battery, some flash memory and some sensors.

    There are far more stressful environments for computers in military and industrial settings.

    1. Re:It's just another imbedded system by AlaskanUnderachiever · · Score: 5, Insightful
      They make solid state dc motors these days? Where was I?

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  18. Smell my shoes by Big+Nothing · · Score: 3, Funny

    Of all items of clothing, said Rob Enderle, the shoe is a logical one to be a focus of wearable technology. Unlike articles of clothing that must be washed or cleaned, shoes present a more stable place to add useful electronics, he said.

    Mr. Enderle has obviously never been in the vicinity of _my_ shoes.

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  19. Yeah sure by ObviousGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you're running forward!

    No one's going to buy a shoe you can't walk backwards in.

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    1. Re:Yeah sure by cammoblammo · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you're running forward!

      No one's going to buy a shoe you can't walk backwards in.

      I take it this means that they wouldn't be backward compatible? I wonder what sort of boot process they have.

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  20. Re:A battery on a running shoe. Think about this.. by Krashed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I totally agree with this. Think of the ways they could have produced power from this. piezo-electric with the vibrations and stomping on the ground (which would probably absorb some of the shock anyway), stirling (or whatever creates changes energy between the heat difference) due to the foot getting hot (which may cool it down some), the swatch thing (a swinging weight with attached magnet to charge a capacitor).
    You know what really would have been badass. If they added bluetooth capability between it and a pda so you can track your workouts wirelessly. Then create a bluetooth heart rate monitor with a watch that would intergrate the entire system. You could modify your step and check your heart rate at the same time. I should start working on the patent...

  21. yeah but by schroet · · Score: 4, Funny

    how long before you have to PATCH them?

    shameless, I know :p

  22. wrong icon by chrispy666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Geez, the ONE time the foot icon would actually make sense, it is not even used by /. editors...
    I guess I know where to stick my foot next time...

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  23. A condom for /. users? by Koguma · · Score: 2, Funny

    The New York Times (free reg. req.) is reporting on a new condom from goatse.cx that contains a ~10KHz chip capable of changing the condom's characteristics to meet the user's need. From the article: 'Goatse.cx executives say the condom is no gadget-dependent gimmick... Each second, a sensor in the tip can take up to 20,000 readings and the embedded electronic brain can make 10,000 calculations, directing a tiny electric motor to change the shape. The goal is to make the condom adjust to changing conditions and the user's particular style while in use. The condom will have push-button controls, light-emitting diodes to display settings and an instruction manual on a CD-ROM that will advise wearers on, among other things, how to change the battery after every 100 hours of use.' I wonder if the CPU can be overcocked?

  24. The tennis shoes wore computers? by LunchTableGoat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Obligitory reference to the movie "The computer wore tennis shoes"

  25. Sweet by blincoln · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If these have LEDs now, I'm sure the next 11 years will give researchers plenty of time to add power laces and a voice chip that sounds like Stephen Hawking's.

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  26. motor? by utexaspunk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    tiny electric motor? with a drivetrain? that wouldn't be my first thought... seems like they could make the sole out of something spongelike containing magnetorheological fluids and some electomagnets to vary the stiffness and sponginess

    1. Re:motor? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Electromagnets consume a pretty fair amount of current in most cases. The question would be (to my way of thinking) whether the mashing of your feet coming down is going to mix the stuff enough to where you're going to spend a significant amount of energy just maintaining state.

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  27. Start worrying when... by NTmatter · · Score: 2, Funny

    they ask "Where do you want to go today?" when you boot (shoe?) up. This message has been brought to you by MicroShoe FooTware.

  28. with all this technology and... by MoFoQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    we're still stuck with replacing batteries.

    if the processor doesn't use alot of power, I'd think if they include some sort of kinetic power generator, that it won't need batteries.

  29. Crashed by antic · · Score: 5, Funny


    Wait up guys! My shoes have crashed...

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    1. Re:Crashed by marcjps · · Score: 3, Funny

      Congratulations to Adidas for inventing the first shoe you can boot.

    2. Re:Crashed by AugstWest · · Score: 2

      Just think about the possibilities... You could have Nagios beep you every time your shoelaces came untied....

      Your shopping bag could set off internal alarms when it starts to rip before that bottle of BBQ sauce explodes all over your kitchen floor....

      The possibilities are infinite, limited only by the stupidity of the idea in the first place.

  30. GPS? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 3, Interesting
    What would be cool is if you could hook this up to GPS. You could chart your runs and develop statistics, such as how many steps per minute, etc. These shoes could be great for people trying to gather data on runners.

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  31. Just wait for convergence to take hold by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 4, Funny

    Once they start coming with a built in camera!Things will be looking up!

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  32. The Wrong Shoes? The Wrong Trousers? by kc8jhs · · Score: 5, Funny

    Didn't we learn anything from Wallace and Grommit in The Wrong Trousers,?

    -Mikey P

  33. Re:A battery on a running shoe. Think about this.. by btempleton · · Score: 4, Informative

    Any shoe that's not a perfect device is taking power from your stride, compressing and expanding the rubber etc.

    The only issue is whether you can get some electricity, rather than just heat, from this work. And not increase the total work in a way that would be noticed.

    There were some projects to make battery chargers in shoes I recall, but they couldn't actually get as much power as they had hoped from pezio. Springs probably would be noticed.

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  34. battery life by deadboy2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    100 hours of non-rechargable battery life?? That's like two week's worth of use! How many times do you think a user is going to bother changing the battery before giving up and just using them like any other shoe?

  35. special shoe chip add on for slashdot by deft · · Score: 2, Funny

    has optimization for stomping on ground while playing warcraft, and then quickly switching to walkjing to fridge for mountain dew. also takes into consideration extra fatness.

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  36. metaphysical questions by zakezuke · · Score: 2, Funny

    As soon as we start making inteligent shoes theologians will spend endless hours debating whether or not these shoes have souls.

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  37. So now you have to RTFM to get some exercise by Masa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "an instruction manual on a CD-ROM that will advise wearers on, among other things, how to change the battery"

    So, does these shoes have a CD-ROM-drive built-in or how one is going to use the manual on the road? Because, it would suck quite royally ass if the BSOD strikes while running at the woods and you have to try to figure out, how to reboot your shoes. And what if the batteries run out? The only thing you can do with the manual is to wave it and hope someone equipped with pair of AAA-batteries (or whatever the shoes are using) and a laptop would see you (a laptop is required because the manual contains the instructions, how to change batteries).

    These shoes will bring us to a totally new level of complexity of having some exercise.

  38. Every 100 hours of use? by ValourX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's roughly every ten days. Can you imagine changing your shoe batteries every ten days? And I thought it was bad changing my mouse batteries every four months...

    -Jem
    1. Re:Every 100 hours of use? by Malc · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most runners don't get 100 hours out of their shoes. I'm a slow runner and I do just over 10 km/hr... that would mean running over 1,000 km on them. Faster runners would get closer to 2,000 km. That's really really unrealistic. I got just over 700 km out of my last pair of shoes before my IT bands started getting sore at the hips on anything over 8 km (10 milers became murderous). Mind you, runners who aren't trying to increase their mileage can often get more out of them, but not that much that changing batteries is going to become a pain. Somebody preparing for a half marathon on 40-60 km/week is going to get 3 months use out of them, and still not hit 100 hours.

  39. Adidas is watching you by A+Boy+and+His+Blob · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now if they had wireless and GPS they could track your every move, which would presumably be back and forth between your house and a store that sells batteries.

  40. Running barefoot by pkplex · · Score: 5, Interesting

    IMO the best way to run is in bare feet, ie, no shoes. That probably sounds stupid to most people, but when your feet are bare, you get lots of feedback and built in reflexes from the nerves in your feet.

    One importaint peice of feedback you get, is to NOT LAND ON YOUR HEELS. Your legs and feet are not designed for you land on your heels ( but shoe companys and podaitrists would like you to think so ). Instead, bare feet teaches you to land on the your forefoot ( eg, the area around the balls of your feet, just behind your toes ).

    A forefoot strike has advantages over a heel strike, In breif;

    Much less chance of injury ( eg shin splints, runners knee, etc ). However, during the first two weeks of learning to run with a proper forefoot strike style, I had sore calf musles. This was the 'numb, lactic acid, ive done more than I am used to' type soreness. This is something your calfs get used to quickly, just like how your biceps grow if you do bicep curls. The main reason for less inury is because the energy absorbed from each foot landing is stored/absorbed into muscles, rather than being driven up thru your bones and joints ( eg, ankle, knee, hip, and back ) as the case with heel strikes.

    It stores energy form the landing, and releases it as your body moves over your foot plant.

    It allows you to run with minimal vertial motion in the torso area, if your knees are bent when your foot touches the ground. As the body goes over the footplant, the leg straigtens, which keeps the torso in the same vertial position.

    And as a result, you end up running very efficently. One obvious thing about running properly ( with a forefoot strike ) is that you become very very quiet, eg, almost completely silent in the feet department, quite the opposite of the comparitive racket most runners make with the enourmous heel striking boots.

    Anyway, I think that the best running shoe is one which is simply like a protective layer of skin over your foot, IE, as close to running in bare feet as possible.

    And the best way to run is in bare feet, but in rare cases ( or when your just starting out ), bare feet is not always practical ( eg, sharp gravel, areas that are likely to have hidden sharp things ), but 80% of places I find I can run barefoot with no problems.

    If you have injurys / problems with running, then perhaps have a look at www.runningbarefoot.org or www.posetech.com, and learn how to run properly ( with a forefoot strike style ), and do not rely on shoes to do the running for you.

    1. Re:Running barefoot by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2, Informative
      Your legs and feet are not designed for you land on your heels ( but shoe companys and podaitrists would like you to think so ).

      Yeah, because I know that my wife spent four years in med school and several more in residency without ever managing to learn the physiology of the part of the body she specializes in. We also get a fat monthly check from the American Heel-Strikers, Inc., for her vocal support of not using your toes.

      Signed,
      The husband of a podiatrist who knows more about feet than you do.

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  41. Industry and University Sr. Design Proj. Ideas by Business+King · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This device could use some major improvements, and I think we all agree from the postings.

    100 hours battery life, the device can be modified to use kinetic engery. This would make for a nice senior design project in affective wearables. Any profs taking this project up?

    GPS Tracking - Keep track of the user as they work out. Using RF to a cell phone the user is wearing, the data can be sent back to a base terminal as the cell phones cache is filled up. This could be especially useful for elderly wearers, so that their wearabouts can be tracked, and monitored by family members. If the family member stays in place for two long, emergency personal are notified, to alert of a possible fall. It could also be helpful to track children where abouts. Ethical issues are another debate.

    Sensor technology - not only track foot position, but use the shoe to track Blood Volume Pressure (Oxygen levels and blood pressure) as well as pulse, and skin conductance. Sensors could be easily developed to be placed around the toes and or on the bottom of the foot, as the foot is slipped into the shoe.

    Using heads up display technology or just simple voice from the cell phone again, the shoe could give feedback to the wearer as the runner is working out. It could track the workout and give progress updates. Custom programs can be added.

    Make the shoe a power source for other wearable devices. It could be a convienent power source for other affective wearables and on board computing devices. All you would need to do is come out with a line of clothing that has simple fashionable connectors that would connect to the shoe to a pair of pants and or shirt so that other devices could be easily added. To allow for fast adoption, allow other manufactuers and universities to make devices for the clothing line. Give money to Sr. Design research projects that can produce wearable sensors to be used and later marketed.

    The shoe, being in contact with the ground, can be used as a input / output device. When used in a car, it could direclty interface into the car, to provide the car with sensor data about the user. This could be accomplished with RF, but this is another posibility. It could give the user also other feedback about the car state, including any warnings through changing the shoes conformaty or shape, or provide a vibration. It could be easily used to keep a driver awake if he or she started to fall asleep at the wheel.

    It can be used as another form of authentication. Using RF, the shoe can be used as a way of identifying the wearer based on walking styles and patterns of movement. Afater a series of steps, the user can be considered authenticated, and then can procede to move around a building with out using an ID card for entry, but instead, the shoe will transmit the user identity. Cars security, computer security, etc.

    It can be used in hospitals as a tracking system for patients, nurses and doctors. It can be especially useful for ER nurses, for they are on their feet alot; so if it could detect stress in wearers legs, it could advise them to sit down and take a break. I know ER nurses can suffer from being on concrete floors for too long. This shoe can be a great help. My aunt could have used this.

    This shoe though would pose a problem for airport security....have the manufactures thought about this, especially when it becomes more common place...

    Keeping track of little kids is big problem for class field trips. This could be used to help enforce the buddy system. If uniforms were a must at school, these could be part of them.

    If hte shoes could provide enough curent, they could be used as a light source, so that when ladies are trying to get to their cars at night, they could use the shoes as a way to light their way. If modules like these were provided for the shoes, the sales could take off quickly.

    Have programs that can be used to help correct technique in sporting events. Baseball, basketball, soccer, Make a

  42. Piezo-electrics? by c4miles · · Score: 2, Informative

    They make piezo-electric actuators - does that count? (no parts move _relative_ to the others - the material stiffens or bends in response to current). Linky

  43. why batteries? by struberg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This would be really impressive if the power will be taken from the kinetic of the person who wears the shoe. This is nowadays std-technology for watches, so why don't they use similar tricks for their shoes? The energy produced by a walking human being above 50kg should be more then enough.

  44. Overclocking? Why not underclocking!? by Xoder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When I saw this article in the NYTimes this morning, I first asked myself would you be able to underclock it to get a better than 100-hour lifetime of the batteries. I mean, who wants to change their shoes' batteries every four days?

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  45. my shoes... by neilyos · · Score: 2, Funny

    run faster than yours. but they have a heatsink.

  46. Re:What, no Bluetooth connection to the wristwatch by aero6dof · · Score: 2, Funny

    You can't tune the thing while running? That is so lame.

    Actually, you can tune it, but it involves a complex pattern of hops, skips, and jumps.

  47. Great Scott! by cupofjoe · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think Marty McFly already wore these sneakers in BTTF2. You know, the ones that had the automatic-inflation feature. Of course, they were Nikes.

    This definitely tears it; Robert Zemeckis was a $#@!ing genius visionary. can't wait for the "Mr. Fusion."


    -joe.