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Star Trek TOS DVD Box Sets Forthcoming

bluethundr writes "According to Trek Today: the diabolical Trek 'powers that be' have come up with yet another way to separate the hapless trekkie from his hard earned cash. The Original Series is being re-released as a Box Set. Reportedly, the sets should feature enough extras to make (they hope) the die-hard pony-up against their better judgement. They have an image of the box set on the R2 Project. One interesting aspect of this release is that the Region 2 release will package all original season eps in order of original air-date! One also has to wonder why in the world they are still refusing to offer the The Animated Series on DVD, forcing one to buy the bootlegs if you want to get your hands on a copy. VHS only, as far as official release goes. TAS featured most of the original cast, many of the original writers. What's more, is that one episode was penned by another author you may have heard of in which he mingled concepts of his own distinct mythology with that of trek-lore." Update: 05/06 14:54 GMT by S : Phrase by original submitter removed - apologies, I was completely unaware of etymology.

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  1. Who was that weird orange alien in TAS? by ObviousGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why didn't they have Sulu at the helm?

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    1. Re:Who was that weird orange alien in TAS? by Hatta · · Score: 5, Informative

      They did have Sulu at the helm. The orange guy just filled in for him when Sulu was on an away mission.

      BTW, TAS is available on bittorrent. Get the .torrent at Digital Distractions. Crappy encodes, but it's better than giving money to a bootlegger.

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  2. Experience... by ArbiterOne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bought the Original Series on DVDs.... wasn't a very good value because you only got 2 episodes per $20 DVD. Maybe this'll be a better value, so... not as much ripping off of trekkies.

  3. Go the Animated Series by JosKarith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I love it - it's great for using to confunse and annoy supposedly "hardcore" trekkies who get all their info out of magazines.
    And no, I'm not a trekkie, I'm just an animation fan who shared a house with one a few years back.

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    1. Re:Go the Animated Series by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I attended a short talk by George Takei ( Mr Sulu ) a few weeks ago at the Supanova popular culture festival in Sydney, Australia while I was waiting for David Carradines Q&A, and he was a very funny and personable speaker, this from someone who doesn't really know Star Trek from a bar of soap... Some discussion of his feelings on the Animated Series came up.

      He seemed to consider it something of a damp squib: despite being freed of the constraints of period special effects, the writers never let themselves go and explored the possibilities on offer - he said he would have particularly liked to see some non humanoid aliens, or some more inspired Zero-G work. And while I agree with his point, I don't think I've really seen much animation work at all that manages to dramatically explore the potential of the medium like that.

      Also, apparently it wasn't as much fun to work with as the original series because all the voice talent recorded their lines separately to each other, in their own booths, and often not even at the same time. How an actor is supposed to build up any sense of timing or interrelation in a scenario like that I can't even begin to guess.

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    2. Re:Go the Animated Series by CoreyGH · · Score: 3, Informative
      Also, apparently it wasn't as much fun to work with as the original series because all the voice talent recorded their lines separately to each other, in their own booths, and often not even at the same time. How an actor is supposed to build up any sense of timing or interrelation in a scenario like that I can't even begin to guess.

      Did you get this from Mr. Takei's interview or did you hear it somewhere else? I ask because according to the Animated Star Trek FAQ:
      QUESTION 16:

      I heard that the actors never worked together while recording the voices for the show's characters. Is this true?

      ANSWER:

      No. Due to the demanding schedules of the voice actors during the show's production, it was sometimes necessary for actors to record their dialog alone away from the other actor's and then send tapes of their performances to the studio where they could be mixed together with the other dialog to form the show's soundtrack. There was even an occasion in which voice recordings had to be sent in from actors all across the country in order to piece together a particular episode. This was the exception rather than the rule, however, as William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, De Forest Kelley and all the rest of the cast voiced the majority of the episodes together as an ensemble at the recording studio
  4. Is anyone else fed up? by John+Seminal · · Score: 3, Insightful
    How many times will the studio release a DVD, only to come out with a better release, and another one. It is the same thing with all the Special Editions, followed by the Directors Edition. This is ridiculous. How many times do the Studios want us buying the same movie/show?

    I know what I will do. I will wait until the boxed set is released, and then two weeks later I will call Paramount and tell them the disk with the special featurettes is not working, and ask for them to send me a replacement. I will then add that with my current TOS collection.

    Or maybe I will put my old DVD's on sale on Ebay. Either way, this is a crooked way to conduct buisness.

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    1. Re:Is anyone else fed up? by plumby · · Score: 5, Insightful
      How many times will the studio release a DVD, only to come out with a better release, and another one. It is the same thing with all the Special Editions, followed by the Directors Edition

      As many times as people will buy it.

      How many times do the Studios want us buying the same movie/show?

      As many as you can.

      Either way, this is a crooked way to conduct buisness.

      If people want to keep buying them, then the studios are right to keep selling them, surely? There's no law that makes people buy these things. If you think they are a rip-off, then don't buy them. If enough people think they are a rip-off, then the studios will stop doing it.

    2. Re:Is anyone else fed up? by ch-chuck · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't forget the prime directive of show business: "Always leave them wanting more".

      IOW, you never give away everything, always hold something back for later.

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    3. Re:Is anyone else fed up? by Maestro4k · · Score: 3, Insightful
      • If people want to keep buying them, then the studios are right to keep selling them, surely? There's no law that makes people buy these things. If you think they are a rip-off, then don't buy them. If enough people think they are a rip-off, then the studios will stop doing it.
      I agree with you, but what will probably happen is people are going to catch on and stop buying the first releases of movies. I know of several who refused to by The Two Towers since they knew they'd release the box set later. How this will affect studio sales is anyone's guess right now, but I doubt it'll fit into their plan. (Which obviously seems to be to get you to buy the same movie multiple times with a few extra goodies thrown in each time.) I don't agree with the grandparent that it's a crooked way to do business, but it's certainly very irritating and disrespectful of customers. While most people are just sheep when it comes to consumerism, even sheep notice if you keep kicking them over and over again and react eventually.
  5. SOLLY CHOLLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fscking racist.

    1. Re:SOLLY CHOLLY by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not a troll. Re-read the submitter's post again.

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  6. Parallell (sp?) by ArbiterOne · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The boxed sets of LOTR are probably making tons of money... perhaps that's why these people decided to recapitalize on a decades-old series.
    Not that it's bad or anything!
    Wait until this (and LOTR) goes gold, platinum, super-platinum collector's edition with Enterprise scale model, etc.
    Then they release The Hobbit/TAS, and the cycle begins again.

  7. Great I hope Shatner does commentery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "In this scene ... I ... was ... motivated ... by ... the ... "

  8. Re:Regions... by John+Seminal · · Score: 3, Informative

    Regions are not the problem, the problem is the differance between the PAL and NTSC formats. You could have a region free DVD player, but all those DVD's from eurpoe are PAL formatted, which means you need a PAL tv or a way to convert the PAL signal to NTSC. I heard the only way to play them is on a laptop because most laptops can display PAL.

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  9. more money fleeced from TOS fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "it's a scam Jim, but not as we know it"

  10. TAS DVD by farnerup · · Score: 3, Funny
    One also has to wonder why in the world they are still refusing to offer the The Animated Series on DVD,

    Actually, they wanted to, but apparently it violates some treaty

  11. Re:Regions... by Dot.Com.CEO · · Score: 4, Informative
    PAL is higher resolution than NTSC so one of two things is happening:

    1. Your TV is multisystem and correctly handles the PAL signal. AFAIK, you are in the minority

    2. Your DVD handles the conversion from PAL to NTSC and what you see on your TV is a converted signal.

    From conversations with American friends, I believe you have succeeded with a fluke where others have spent lots to have acceptable results.

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  12. You ripped yourself off, bub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    YOU chose to buy 2 episodes for $20 (and you bought the ENTIRE series?), so don't complain to the supplier if you are willing to buy.

  13. Re:Regions... by caffeineboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Usually DVD players that can play multiple regions of DVD can also output in either PAL or NTSC and convert on the fly between the two formats. My current player (Sampo 611) does this, as did the previous player (Raite 750).

    Check out the explanation of multi-region DVD players from amazon.co.uk

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  14. Re:Wow, I really must be showing my youth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can be forgiven for being too young to know what it is, it was shown in the early-mid '70s after all.
    Here is the imdb entry

  15. Solly Cholly??? by skermit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What kind of racist crap is this? It shouldn't be in a /. article, for one thing. Bad taste. VERY BAD TASTE.

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    1. Re:Solly Cholly??? by jdcook · · Score: 5, Funny
      "What kind of racist crap is this? It shouldn't be in a /. article, for one thing. Bad taste. VERY BAD TASTE."

      How the fuck did this get modded troll? "Solly Cholly" *IS* racist crap. It *SHOULDN'T* be in /. Or if it's now acceptable, can we expect the "Gay Nigger" trolls to get on the front page?

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    2. Re:Solly Cholly??? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What kind of racist crap is this? It shouldn't be in a /. article, for one thing. Bad taste. VERY BAD TASTE

      Most people probably didn't comment on this either because they only skimmed over the text of the posting, because they had no idea that it had any racial conotation, or were unphased. I am in he first two groups (didn't fully read the text and didn't know the expression). I had no idea what the expression is about and I have never heard it until now. I take it that is purely USA slang?

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    3. Re:Solly Cholly??? by simoniker · · Score: 5, Informative

      The phrase has been removed by me and an update posted - apologies, I edited this submission extensively last night, and even Googled for 'solly cholly' to see if it was a swearword, because I had't heard of it, but saw lots of other people (who obviously also didn't know its original etymology) using it in normal speech, so I let it pass.

  16. For those of you unware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Of the Star Trek animated series, here is the IMBD entry

  17. Oh come on.... by bludstone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you dont like it, THEN DONT BUY IT.

    Noone is holding a gun to your head, telling you to buy the new super-shiny version of the dvd. All that the studios are doing here is responding to CONSUMER DEMAND.

    There are plenty of other evil things that these companies do. Harping on SE dvds simply isnt worthwhile.

    This problem is solved very, very easily. Just. Dont. Buy. It.

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    1. Re:Oh come on.... by 0x0000 · · Score: 5, Funny
      > Noone is holding a gun to your head

      In all fairness, we don't know that.

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    2. Re:Oh come on.... by RESPAWN · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just. Dont. Buy. It.

      For some reason, when I read those "sentences" I heard them in my head as coming from Shatner's voice. I really can't understand why...

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    3. Re:Oh come on.... by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 4, Funny

      > For some reason, when I read those "sentences" I heard them in my head as coming from Shatner's voice.

      "You want how much for the box set? It's a con! A con, I tell you! COOOOOOOOOOOOOON!"

  18. Re:Regions... by Eccles · · Score: 3, Informative

    From conversations with American friends, I believe you have succeeded with a fluke where others have spent lots to have acceptable results.

    Both my U.S.-purchased DVD players can be region-modded and can play PAL DVDs with NTSC output, and I paid $170 and $80 for them a year or more ago. It's not a fluke, it's smart shopping, although the DVD-CCA nazis may be making it harder these days.

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  19. Re:Regions... by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On the contrary, regions are a big problem, and they do NOT prevent piracy they BOOST piracy. Most TVs, DVD players, and Computers have the option to switch between NTSC and PAL (I'm writing to u from Asia, and we have that option, I'm sure American TVs/Computers do too. However, with this fucked up region system, here's what happens. LOTR fans in Asia would like to own the LOTR DVD. However, these LOTR fans are bracketed in Region 5 (I'm talking about the Indian Sub-Continent here).

    Question: How many Hollywood movies were released in Region 5 this yr? The answer is FIVE, and LOTR was not one of them. So people in Asia have the choice of paying $20 for the DVD + $20 Shipping to Asia from America, to get a Region 1 DVD which their hacked DVD player will play...OR.... they could go down to the local bootlegger and get a pirated DVD/VideoCD.

    Let's see what would happen in a non-region encoding situation:

    LOTR DVD is released, simultaneously worldwide. Person in god-forsaken 3rd-world country has easy access to the legal, region-free DVD at local prices...

  20. "Mingled concepts"? Worse than that by The+Wicked+Priest · · Score: 4, Informative

    He took "The Soft Weapon" and rewrote it with Trek characters. But he couldn't even be bothered to change the Kzinti to Klingons, which would've been the logical mapping from Known Space to Trek. Frankly, I think it's disgraceful that he took money for this hack job (and I say that as a big Niven fan).

    I actually argued about this with someone online once. He brought up Kzinti in a Trek context, based on that episode. I said they had no place in the Trek universe. But he insisted that since it was in TAS, it was canon.

    OK, call me a fanboy, but this isn't a troll. I'm glad to see somebody else remembers this, anyway.

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  21. Re:Regions... by Chalybeous · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interestingly, I understand that an increasing number of DVDs of older shows are being released in a "region zero" (region-free) format.
    My understanding of the rationale behind this is to cut the production costs on something which will sell, but not sell enough in some areas to make region coding worthwhile. When they're around 20 or so years old, there's not much to lose to piracy.
    On the other hand, stopping the region-coding of movies might be bad for the cinema industry. Why? Well, take the movie Galaxy Quest. The UK theatrical release date was the same as the US DVD release date. Given the prevalence of international sales via, say, eBay and Amazon, I can imagine people being tempted to buy a DVD and sell it if they don't like it, or buy a secondhand one.

    That said, IMHO movies like LotR wouldn't be hurt due to simultaneous releases, unless they take more than a year to get out to the most remote cinemas in some parts of the world.

    So, the long and short? My 2c is that region encoding is good for the industry in some cases (and also means they don't have to squeeze every language soundtrack or subtitle onto the same disc), but is also detrimental to the industry - if, for example, ST:TOS had been released in region-free format originally, Paramount would have easily at least doubled, if not tripled, their sales. (I don't intend to buy it now. The profile says recovering ex-Trekkie, and not only do I not want to waste the money on that stuff, but that packaging is hideous.)

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  22. Or Chekov, or Scotty... by Wacky_Wookie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Chekov:
    "In sis seen I vas mota-waited by the large wessel looming..."

    Scotty:
    "..but we could'na finnish the seen, as we just did'na have the film!"

  23. Mistake in article description by You+Been+Rob-ed! · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...separate the hapless trekkie from his hard earned cash.

    Shouldn't that be from his parents' hard earned cash?

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  24. Re:I must be the only person happy to see this by Zed2K · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The star trek box sets are SO overpriced its not even funny anymore. Look at other popular tv box sets for comparisons and they are much cheaper. CSI $60, Friends $55 for season 1, $35 for other seasons, Angel $45, Buffy $45, West Wing $45. But DS9 $97, TNG $97-$111. For the same number of episodes as other tv shows.

    I would love to get all the TNG and DS9 box sets but not at $100 or higher a box. Paramount is gouging star trek fans because they know they can get away with it. Its a big slap in the face to star trek fans but they are to stupid to realize it.