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Flash Mob Gang Warfare
TexasDex writes "You've all heard of flash mobs and Flash Mob Computing. Now here's a new twist on the flash mob phenomenon: Almost 3 dozen people were arrested for a March 3 street fight. 'What makes this case unusual is how the clash was arranged: via a profanity-laced Internet chat room.' Apparently two Dallas gangs, after trading insults in a chat room, traded their keyboards for fists and baseball bats and arranged a time to meet and duke it out in real life. The gang members were later identified and arrested with the aid of a digital video tape of the brawl. According to one officer, 'Some of them actually signed in with their true names, so that helped us identify people.'"
Gotta love how slashdot stays on the forefront of up-to-the-minute journalism.
(This is why cops can catch them).
irc gangs... haha.. how geeky is that?
I would have used the keyboard instead of a baseball bat. Would have been sooo much cooler with keys flying everywhere with every strike.
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Should have let them kill eachother, would have been Darwin at its finest
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Does anyone have the chat-log of that chat-session?
*gang 1 slaps around gang 2 with a bit of large trout
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This is not newsworthy. People traded insults and got into a fight. So it happened over the internet - so what?
Communications can be good or bad. The internet isn't going to prevent some punk from talking shit about some other punk.
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of great... now our gangs are on the internet. I wonder how much longer till our crime is outsourced to india like our jobs are.
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Nigga4Life82: fuk you mama ;-)
...)
FreshJackMan: u smoke dicks
FreshJackMan: an you mama a ho
Nigga4Life82: fuck yo mama ho
DJMonkeyAss: sup bitches
FreshJackMan: niga4life needs
DJMonkeyAss: indahouse
FreshJackMan: a cap in his ass
Tawneesha79: sup dopeman
FreshJackMan: GLOCK GLOCK LoL
Nigga4Life82: gona buts a cap in jack ass
Nigga4Life82: punk ass bitch anyway
(... six hours later
Nigga4Life82: make you move motherfuker
FreshJackMan: kick yo bitch ass bitch
FreshJackMan: fuck your mama bitch ass ho
(... two hours later... the fight begins)
I wonder how many of them will claim that it wasn't really them becasue of a worm or virus or someone else using their password.
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West Side Story meets IRC? You are now chatting in #gangfights, the topic is "Jets vs Sharks set to a wonderful musical score by Leonard Bernstein"
Quick, everyone! Let's have a Slashdot-effect mob street fight!
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I'm putting money on the K5er's. Slashdotters aren't exactly tough.
They should have told the police they were just practicing for a performance of West Side Story and then started singing Tonight
Liberals call everyone Nazis yet they are the closest thing to it.
Guy 1: I'm gonna kick your ass! ....and so on, and so on...
Guy 2: Bring it on!
Guy 1: Fine! Where do you wanna meet?
Guy 2: I'll go to your place just to kick..your..ass. Where do you live?
Guy 1: 1328 Farnsworth street in Edina
Guy 2: Oh I'm so there. Wait, I'm in Rosevile
Guy 1: Okay, you can take I-494 westbound, then take hwy 100 northbound.
Guy 2: Can't do that, 494 near me is closed and there's no detour
Guy 1: Okay, how about County road B?
I hope I get an invite to the next one. I'm bringing my vorpal sword of slaying +3
If they used molotov cocktail's it would have been a real flame war. I know horrible pun but someone had to say it
just because your a schizophrenic doesn't mean people arn't really out to get you
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Haven't they heard of Quake? what kinda (in)sane person even leaves the house to have a fight these days, we've got good enough connections to act like real men and hit each other with crowbars without having to move at all.
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Exactly, and how does this have ANYTHING to do with flash mobs? They were already established groups (gangs). The same thing could have happened because of a shouting match in the streets, a conference call, or any other form of group communication. Just because the cause of the fight happened to be on the internet doesn't make it special.
Yeah, especially if they were on IRC using OSX.
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This was NOT a flash mob. Why on Earth would you call it that? It was a pre-arranged fight, as almost all gang fights are.
A bunch of kids argued in a chat room and then they fought.
This story is among the worst I've ever seen here.
Everybody talks tough on the internet. It's easy to be tough and talk some smack when your opponent is safely away in another country. As far as I'm concerned if you're gonna mock and threaten someone over the internet, you better back up them fightin' words with some real blood and knuckles. Good for them.
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That's like saying that everyone who uses contraception will die out, because their existence is self-perpetuating.
No, that's not the same. Contraception is a different thing entirely. It prevents the spread of diseases and makes unwanted pregnancy almost zero for those who actually use contraceptive devices. It allows those who cannot maintain manogomy to engage in recreational sexual activity with few drawbacks. There are VD's you can get even while using a condom but to say that all those who use condoms will die out is absurd. It just means that those who don't 'screw up' can have children when they want them.
There will always be schoolyard bullies with inadequacy issues who will always be robbing small children of lunch money. There don't always need to be gangs. I've known quite a few gang members and I really know what they get out of it. A lot of the needs they have that gangs provide can be removed. It is a social problem. It is difficult to get people to care about things they don't normally see. Where I live, gang activity is frequently reported in the news. Yet still, you have to live in a 'bad neighborhood' to actually see any of it in person. That's why no one cares. Unemployment, poverty, homelessness, child abuse, split families, child neglect, bad parenting skills, fear, money, there are too many factors to list. Be sure, however, they are not insurmountable problems. The violence can be stopped, but law enforcement isn't the solution, it's the band-aid to the symptoms.
You can't legislate goodness. Let each to his own destiny, by will of his freely made choices.
I'm waiting for the gang hand sign RFC.
Parents, not police, must take ultimate responsibility, said Lewis, a former police officer in Modesto, Calif. "I'm just wondering why the parents aren't monitoring what's going on back and forth on the Internet," he said.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch house:
A Roadside Oiler, filled with pride, watches his son typing away. "My son is a fucking genouis with that thing. He's always working at it. Trojans, DDoS, I got no idea what it is so it must be good."
Sonny gets out of his chair, picks up a baseball bat and heads for the door.
Oiler: Where you going, son?
Sonny: Uhhh, there's a game on tonight. I won't be late.
Oiler thinks: Night time baseball? Eh, OK, a little exercise will do him some good. I wish he'd get some sunshine.
And so it happens.
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Sorry, but has already been done ages ago in the Netherlands.
This time it was a major battle between Ajax and Feyenoord (football clubs from Amsterdam and Rotterdam respectively) supporters, to quote:
"In March 1997 an Ajax fan died after an organised fight between hundreds of Feyenoord and Ajax hooligans in a meadow near Beverwijk."
This lead to the death of one Ajax supporter Cario Picornie.
They organised this fight using cellulars.
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The thing I can't work out why the stupid kids were charged! They all wanted to be there. There were no innocent injured bystanders.
If these kids are flat-out dumb enough to want to fight each other for no apparent reason, then I say let them do it.
The world is over-populated enough as it is and a bit of chlorine in the gene pool wouldn't go astray.
"a profanity-laced Internet chat room"
There's another kind?
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Chat turns 2 day into a fight!
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someone uploaded "If Your Mother Only Knew" which a personal site run by some Asian "gangster" picked up on. I'm assuming he was some kind of ganster because what little I could read sounded pretty rough. Who knew AOL speak could sound tough? I know about it because they hotlinked it and my bandwidth was getting sucked up.
So I changed it to a low bit quality version of "You Are My Sunshine."
It didn't take long for them to lose the hot link to my site. And I didn't have to say anything to them.
I can't help but think this mob problem could have been avoided if someone had just injected the forum with some happy fun kids' songs. Too much anger and stupidity, not enough funny.
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Ah....Darwin works in mysterious ways sometimes....or perhaps some not so mysterious ways as found in this case.
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The proper procedure for settling online pissing contests and insult-slinging events of this nature is to play eachother in an agreed-upon First-Person Shooter.
Come on, don't these gangs know good internet ettiquette?
Perhaps it's a shock for you American people, but here in Poland we have plenty of meetings called "ustawka" (which means "setup" or "arrangement").
Usually, it's between football fans. They enter the opposite team's website/forum post some vulgar notes, arrange a meeting and fight.
I've never been into such a fight because you never know what's going to happen, bunch of forty crazed people fighting each other with no rules.
But it ain't as bad as it was in the 90's since they don't use weapons anymore. However in Ukraine, for instance, it is still the case, they use chains, bats, knives even guns.
The general rule is: the further east you go the worse the manners.
In contrast could you imagine, for instance, NBA fans fighting each other over a lost game? I envy you US and Canadian citizens for living in a civilised country.
I bet the reason was a discussion about ...
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For goodness sake, these are kids aged 14-21. The policeman asked why the parents weren't keeping an eye on their internet usage: but what about keeping an eye on why your 14-year-old kid is going out at night with a baseball bat?!
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Which is why I'm amazed that anyone would mod this as insightful. Advocating violence is insightful? While the world copes with the gruesome death of Mr. Berg we've got people advocating further violence and people thinking it's insightful? WTF?
It follows that such males cannot therefore contribute easily to the human reproductive cycle and therefore the continuation of the species - so I say let them get on with it, it's just natural selection in action.
Just give the last man standing a mop and a trashcan and let him clear up all the bits afterwards...
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If only they'd have had mod points. Negative mod points are far worse than baseball bats to a true geek.
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This is hilarious. Myself and my friends around Dallas had been talking about this fight all week, about how dumb it was in general, how stupid people were to let someone videotape it (that's how they identified the participants), and how surprised we were at the lack of knives and guns, and that most of the fights were one-on-one instead of the normal "gang up on one person" kind of fight you see around here. There has been a lot of video of the fight on local TV as well. It is amazing to see it show up on the Slashdot homepage, world colliding kind of strange.
And no, these kids were not "computer nerds". In fact, that part of Garland is considered a low-wealth, blue collar area; these are just punk kids who happen to use computers.