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TexasDex writes "You've all heard of flash mobs and Flash Mob Computing. Now here's a new twist on the flash mob phenomenon: Almost 3 dozen people were arrested for a March 3 street fight. 'What makes this case unusual is how the clash was arranged: via a profanity-laced Internet chat room.' Apparently two Dallas gangs, after trading insults in a chat room, traded their keyboards for fists and baseball bats and arranged a time to meet and duke it out in real life. The gang members were later identified and arrested with the aid of a digital video tape of the brawl. According to one officer, 'Some of them actually signed in with their true names, so that helped us identify people.'"
Gotta love how slashdot stays on the forefront of up-to-the-minute journalism.
(This is why cops can catch them).
irc gangs... haha.. how geeky is that?
One of these days, all the gangs will just shoot each other. Their existence is self-perpetuating. I don't blame members because I fully understand what they get out of it. I only wish they could fill their psychological needs with more constructive activities.
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I would have used the keyboard instead of a baseball bat. Would have been sooo much cooler with keys flying everywhere with every strike.
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Should have let them kill eachother, would have been Darwin at its finest
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Does anyone have the chat-log of that chat-session?
*gang 1 slaps around gang 2 with a bit of large trout
Say it ain't so!!!
This is not newsworthy. People traded insults and got into a fight. So it happened over the internet - so what?
Communications can be good or bad. The internet isn't going to prevent some punk from talking shit about some other punk.
Do us a favour guys and also hold your fights somewhere out of the way?
/me is bringing a bat, fool!
'Thats they exact same thing a banana wrench monkey.'
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of great... now our gangs are on the internet. I wonder how much longer till our crime is outsourced to india like our jobs are.
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Nigga4Life82: fuk you mama ;-)
...)
FreshJackMan: u smoke dicks
FreshJackMan: an you mama a ho
Nigga4Life82: fuck yo mama ho
DJMonkeyAss: sup bitches
FreshJackMan: niga4life needs
DJMonkeyAss: indahouse
FreshJackMan: a cap in his ass
Tawneesha79: sup dopeman
FreshJackMan: GLOCK GLOCK LoL
Nigga4Life82: gona buts a cap in jack ass
Nigga4Life82: punk ass bitch anyway
(... six hours later
Nigga4Life82: make you move motherfuker
FreshJackMan: kick yo bitch ass bitch
FreshJackMan: fuck your mama bitch ass ho
(... two hours later... the fight begins)
I wonder how many of them will claim that it wasn't really them becasue of a worm or virus or someone else using their password.
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West Side Story meets IRC? You are now chatting in #gangfights, the topic is "Jets vs Sharks set to a wonderful musical score by Leonard Bernstein"
Quick, everyone! Let's have a Slashdot-effect mob street fight!
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Rusty from Kuro5hin says this - "Hey Taco, j00 sux0r! CowboyNeal is a loser AOLer! Slashcode is worse than VB code! Hemos is a homo! If j00 l05ers think otherwise, show up at the corner of 2nd and Main at 3pm with 'yo posse, and we'll settle this with a fight between us K5-krew and the
I'm putting money on the K5er's. Slashdotters aren't exactly tough.
They should have told the police they were just practicing for a performance of West Side Story and then started singing Tonight
Liberals call everyone Nazis yet they are the closest thing to it.
Talk about kids abusing the internet!!! Don't these kids know they can look at free pr0n, get free music and keep all their teeth?
Seriously, anyone still think our society is on the right track?
Yeah, I guess I'm funny like that.
Guy 1: I'm gonna kick your ass! ....and so on, and so on...
Guy 2: Bring it on!
Guy 1: Fine! Where do you wanna meet?
Guy 2: I'll go to your place just to kick..your..ass. Where do you live?
Guy 1: 1328 Farnsworth street in Edina
Guy 2: Oh I'm so there. Wait, I'm in Rosevile
Guy 1: Okay, you can take I-494 westbound, then take hwy 100 northbound.
Guy 2: Can't do that, 494 near me is closed and there's no detour
Guy 1: Okay, how about County road B?
I hope I get an invite to the next one. I'm bringing my vorpal sword of slaying +3
If they used molotov cocktail's it would have been a real flame war. I know horrible pun but someone had to say it
just because your a schizophrenic doesn't mean people arn't really out to get you
..."Any fool can use a computer. Many do."
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Haven't they heard of Quake? what kinda (in)sane person even leaves the house to have a fight these days, we've got good enough connections to act like real men and hit each other with crowbars without having to move at all.
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Please tell me you are not seriously drawing an anolgy between murder and football.
Yeah, I guess I'm funny like that.
Exactly, and how does this have ANYTHING to do with flash mobs? They were already established groups (gangs). The same thing could have happened because of a shouting match in the streets, a conference call, or any other form of group communication. Just because the cause of the fight happened to be on the internet doesn't make it special.
2. "I'm just wondering why the parents aren't monitoring what's going on back and forth on the Internet,", now I know the feeling of most slashdotters on this issue. Invasion of privacy, lack of trust, and for most of us our parents wouldn't have a clue what we were really doing...
09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
Yeah, especially if they were on IRC using OSX.
(rimshot)
Dude, if you can't tell the difference between a sport, where a contestant, even a boxer, can throw in the towel and call it a day at any time, and a street brawl, where a guy who's taken several blows from a baseball bat and is about to get his skull crushed, then you need help.
Also, in organised sports, the health of the participants comes first, and there is normally a medical kit, if not a trained medical team, on the sidelines. When a player is injured, he can leave the field, etc to get immediate medical treatment. I don't see people in street fights respecting timeouts, etc and, until they do, don't expect a street fight to get treated like a game of three on three.
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
This was NOT a flash mob. Why on Earth would you call it that? It was a pre-arranged fight, as almost all gang fights are.
A bunch of kids argued in a chat room and then they fought.
This story is among the worst I've ever seen here.
Everybody talks tough on the internet. It's easy to be tough and talk some smack when your opponent is safely away in another country. As far as I'm concerned if you're gonna mock and threaten someone over the internet, you better back up them fightin' words with some real blood and knuckles. Good for them.
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Bodily harm is a tort anywhere. The idea of "consent" is not recognized.
If it's ok to arrest these "gangs" for fighting then please arrest every amature football player too.
Do you mean "armature" football or "amateur" football?
Seriously, my first thought of gangs isn't everyone sitting around on some web-based chatroom, that all of these rival gang members just happen to frequent at the same time and arrange to get into a fight...which just happens to make it into every paper / news site around. This is more the realm of 'jackass' than some great new trend in crime.
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match at Fourth and Main. Beat y'all with one lobe tied behind ma' back, yo.
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Oy. The humanity
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Actually, if someone were seriously injured in an amatuer American football match, I bet that charges of some kind would be filed. Not to mention the civil lawsuit. And, as much as I would like to subscribe to your libertarian mind set, I do believe that if a group of 34 idiotic 14 to 20 year olds were beating the shit out of each other on my street, I would want the cops out there post haste.
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I'm waiting for the gang hand sign RFC.
Parents, not police, must take ultimate responsibility, said Lewis, a former police officer in Modesto, Calif. "I'm just wondering why the parents aren't monitoring what's going on back and forth on the Internet," he said.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch house:
A Roadside Oiler, filled with pride, watches his son typing away. "My son is a fucking genouis with that thing. He's always working at it. Trojans, DDoS, I got no idea what it is so it must be good."
Sonny gets out of his chair, picks up a baseball bat and heads for the door.
Oiler: Where you going, son?
Sonny: Uhhh, there's a game on tonight. I won't be late.
Oiler thinks: Night time baseball? Eh, OK, a little exercise will do him some good. I wish he'd get some sunshine.
And so it happens.
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Sorry, but has already been done ages ago in the Netherlands.
This time it was a major battle between Ajax and Feyenoord (football clubs from Amsterdam and Rotterdam respectively) supporters, to quote:
"In March 1997 an Ajax fan died after an organised fight between hundreds of Feyenoord and Ajax hooligans in a meadow near Beverwijk."
This lead to the death of one Ajax supporter Cario Picornie.
They organised this fight using cellulars.
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The thing I can't work out why the stupid kids were charged! They all wanted to be there. There were no innocent injured bystanders.
If these kids are flat-out dumb enough to want to fight each other for no apparent reason, then I say let them do it.
The world is over-populated enough as it is and a bit of chlorine in the gene pool wouldn't go astray.
"a profanity-laced Internet chat room"
There's another kind?
No shit, they should get on this stat.
I mean, just the other day BillClinton69 was all giving me terrorist threating messages in CS, and I swear I saw GW_BUSH_BIATCH snorting a line of blow back at the rear base in Battlefield Vietnam.
I mean, when people fucking tell you who they are, you should fucking arrest them...
duh..
-dameron
People in flash mobs usually perform according to a written script, then disperse quickly. Flash mobs can be for many purposes but most groups stick to having fun.
As I said, gang fights are almost always pre-arranged, and this one is no different. WTF makes this fight worthy of posting on Slashdot?
I tried subtle humor and sarcasm the other day in the Hybrid vehicle thread. It doesn't work. Trust me, I know.
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media types LOVE latching on to stuff like this: "ooh! low-tech criminals meet high tech, violence ensues, sounds like a pulitzer!" fcuking vultures.
This puts a whole new spin on the "If I ever meet you, I'm going to punch you in the face!" threat.
Who is Twirlip of the Mists?
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I'll flame ur ass 2 nite.
For us, the n00bz will drop where they are.
2 day
I'll never take a shower,
The FPS go slowly,
And still the sky is light...
Oh Doom, grow bright,
Chat turns 2 day into a fight!
- a.c.
You took the chat-words right out of my chat-mouth.
You have to be a stupid loser to commit crime, no matter what crime it is.
Actually, many smart people who would be considered winners are criminals. I'm not advocating crime, but many clever scams and conspiracys are put together by rather smart people who have found an angle and choose to exploit it for personal gain. Most crime is never caught and many types of crime are not priortized. Keep it non violant and discrete. coupled with a great plan, and you're on your way to brilliant thievry. You have to have respect for people that really could give a shit about the rules and find ways to make a living and then some by exploiting ill defined laws and policy. Wait, I hate lawers too.
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someone uploaded "If Your Mother Only Knew" which a personal site run by some Asian "gangster" picked up on. I'm assuming he was some kind of ganster because what little I could read sounded pretty rough. Who knew AOL speak could sound tough? I know about it because they hotlinked it and my bandwidth was getting sucked up.
So I changed it to a low bit quality version of "You Are My Sunshine."
It didn't take long for them to lose the hot link to my site. And I didn't have to say anything to them.
I can't help but think this mob problem could have been avoided if someone had just injected the forum with some happy fun kids' songs. Too much anger and stupidity, not enough funny.
Ben
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for most of us our parents wouldn't have a clue what we were really doing...
I think you misjudge the average Slashdot reader's age.
Even in a real-life fight, I bet the losing gang was still whining about the lag.
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The clash room! Oh... Silly me! That's been happening on IRC for years.
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Ah....Darwin works in mysterious ways sometimes....or perhaps some not so mysterious ways as found in this case.
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The proper procedure for settling online pissing contests and insult-slinging events of this nature is to play eachother in an agreed-upon First-Person Shooter.
Come on, don't these gangs know good internet ettiquette?
Perhaps it's a shock for you American people, but here in Poland we have plenty of meetings called "ustawka" (which means "setup" or "arrangement").
Usually, it's between football fans. They enter the opposite team's website/forum post some vulgar notes, arrange a meeting and fight.
I've never been into such a fight because you never know what's going to happen, bunch of forty crazed people fighting each other with no rules.
But it ain't as bad as it was in the 90's since they don't use weapons anymore. However in Ukraine, for instance, it is still the case, they use chains, bats, knives even guns.
The general rule is: the further east you go the worse the manners.
In contrast could you imagine, for instance, NBA fans fighting each other over a lost game? I envy you US and Canadian citizens for living in a civilised country.
I bet the reason was a discussion about ...
Vi vs Emacs
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For goodness sake, these are kids aged 14-21. The policeman asked why the parents weren't keeping an eye on their internet usage: but what about keeping an eye on why your 14-year-old kid is going out at night with a baseball bat?!
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Emacs vs. vi?
Red Hat vs. Debian?
Linux vs. *BSD?
Well obviously video games are the cause because well it involved that there "intarweb" thing and these new fangled computers and then some good old violence in real life and therefore by the age old equation Internet + Violence = Blame goes to video games
Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither
Well, with your spelling, I guess you don't have to worry about that problem.
I don't recall ever having met an idiot who had a clue they were stupid. In fact, I remember how much more I thought I knew about 15-20 years ago, I guess you do feel smart when you have no idea what you don't know, which would explain your fallacy of a "high iq disease". Yes, there are arrogant smart people, but they are *usually* smart enough to know the consequences of getting caught and make sure they stay just inside the law.
ymmv
The realists (and just about everyone but the most hardcore bleeding-hearts) will consider it good riddance
Based on your statements in this thread you don't seem to have any level of "bleeding heart", so I'd contest your authority to declare what such a person would consider. I also wonder about your definition of "realist". A realist, from my understanding would not have the amount of animosity inferrable from "good riddance". A realist would more likely be more tolerant to both the presence of these acts and the manner of their resolution. Personally, I'd say far too many cynics think they're being realistic. But then seeing the honest reality tends to make people cynical, so it's a bit of a vicious circle there...
When I say we'd do better off letting them kill one another, I say so because of compassion for my fellow humans, not out of a lack thereof.
What makes those involved in the violence any less a fellow human than your family and friends? Compassion shouldn't be limited to those you care about, since those relationships revolve around other human qualities. Proper compassion involves exactly those who you would otherwise ignore, detest or disassociate yourself with. A compassionate act requires involvement, when not acting is worse in an ethical and/or emotional sense. Not doing something is more easily described as apathetic than compassionate. As such, you're really being apathetic, while trying to convince yourself it's compassion.
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Just because the cause of the fight happened to be on the internet doesn't make it special.
It does to us nerds, you insensitive clod!
What would make it Internet notable, to my mind, is if they didn't actually coordinate to get together and rumble, but if one group managed to track down the other via the internet, and brought the fight to the other guy's doorstep.
Which is why I'm amazed that anyone would mod this as insightful. Advocating violence is insightful? While the world copes with the gruesome death of Mr. Berg we've got people advocating further violence and people thinking it's insightful? WTF?
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Bodily harm is a tort anywhere. The idea of "consent" is not recognized No it's not. Haven't you ever watched (kick)boxing or ultimate fighting?
According to one officer, 'Some of them actually signed in with their true names, so that helped us identify people.'"
And, of the ones that didn't, getting those names was no problem. They didn't even need a warrant.
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hooligans have been doing this kind of thing for years..
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The article mentionned this is the first time 'gang members use the internet' to fight their wars. How odd. I think it would be rather unique to have street gangs use profane and religious grounds to go out and have a fight with eachother. Not that religious wars are anything new, of course, but streetgangs in profane chat channels cursing at each other? That's just too much.
Blah anyway.. anyone uses the net for anything the se days, so why not gangwars. A bit like Guildwars but without the fancy graphics, right. Not really the big
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To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
It follows that such males cannot therefore contribute easily to the human reproductive cycle and therefore the continuation of the species - so I say let them get on with it, it's just natural selection in action.
Just give the last man standing a mop and a trashcan and let him clear up all the bits afterwards...
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They've been doing this for years. Good to see that the UK is on the global forefront of technologically assisted pugilism.
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See here or here.
:-)
Which reminds me of my new money-spinning idea ( © Me on Slashdot) - a cross between fight club and Gaydar. People sign a disclaimer, and can then contact people who match their profile but instead of doing something rude with them they get to fight each other. As it's all among consenting adults, I'm sure it would be legal....
So where's Judge Dredd when you need him...
I guess with perps not exactly hiding their identities it makes it a bit easier.
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I'm glad FightClub managed to say what needs to be said on this; life is too safe for some people.
Give them knives and put them in a cage, or similar;
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If only they'd have had mod points. Negative mod points are far worse than baseball bats to a true geek.
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This is not really news at all. English football (Soccer for you yanks) hooligans have been pre-arranging fights for years. From what I hear from friends involved in that scene it's all very polite too. People meet in pubs before the game and exchange phone numbers. After the match teams of scouts seek out a suitably sized area away from the massive police presence the big "Category A" games attract and report their findings. The bosses phone each other and meet up for a big fight.
These meetings have adjusted to bring in new technology, many 'firms', as these groups call themselves, now have their own bulletin board with bosses exchanging URLS over SMS before the match in order to orgainse the fight online.
Admittedly these things don't break out from a flame war, these are far more premeditiated, but using the 'net to organise a fight is old news.
Oh, the best thing about these boards was how the members would list their "Battle honours" after each post.
Milwall '87
Cardiff '92
etc.
As a reference to back up your statement, cite Harry Harrison's "Stainless Steel Rat" novels.
Sorry, I'd consider (at least) the 19-21yr olds to be NOT "kids" anymore....
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What does Flash mobs have anything to do with the gang violence article? The gangs spoken of in the article, are not "flash mobs", but simply street gangs who use the internet.
I think the poster used Jeff Goldblum's character, David Levinson logic, from Independence Day
"Gangs who use the internet.... gangs... a mob is a sort of gang. Mobs... mobs... hey, there are flash mobs, which is in an internet thing. Aha! Extra! Extra! Flash mobs become violent!"
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I'm sure the fellas would feel some mechanical snap when hit with this keyboard.
This is hilarious. Myself and my friends around Dallas had been talking about this fight all week, about how dumb it was in general, how stupid people were to let someone videotape it (that's how they identified the participants), and how surprised we were at the lack of knives and guns, and that most of the fights were one-on-one instead of the normal "gang up on one person" kind of fight you see around here. There has been a lot of video of the fight on local TV as well. It is amazing to see it show up on the Slashdot homepage, world colliding kind of strange.
And no, these kids were not "computer nerds". In fact, that part of Garland is considered a low-wealth, blue collar area; these are just punk kids who happen to use computers.
Actually, they are not "gangs" in the legal sense, they are all just kids who happened to know each other. The two groups are kids who went to different high schools, they had not been identified as gangs previously. Just the local media doing a little of it's own FUD and slapping a label on them.
I saw this article a few weeks ago about flash mob kiss-ins or orgies called "dogging".
Hopefully some of these people will grow up before becoming adults and taking on the responsibilities of life.
Sadly, the police intervened before they could do much damage. How do you protect someone from their own stupidity?
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You've obviously never been to Oak Cliff or southeast Dallas.
I guess im just a light year ahead of the times because we had a full on BBS war about 10 years ago. We were the local evil warez/porn/phr3aking board and some assfuck who ran the local baseball scores/bible info board dissed our shit and we had to throw!!! But he backed down and we threw stuff at his house and peeled out on his lawn.. Tru thug life! Then we annonymously sent him a hacked copy of Wacky Wheels that deletes your command.com.. B000YA!!
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No matter how thin you slice it, its still baloney.
I can't remember enough of the actual details to quote verbatim, but basically it was about how "Mr. Smith" encountered two individuals that were real asshats and dealt with them quite nicely.
Basically, after encountering asshat #1, he managed to get a phone # and started calling the guy about 2-3 times a week (on a calling-card or something equally difficult to track) and stating "you're an @sshole" before hanging up.
After a few months of this, it was starting to get boring - until Mr. Smith ran into a second asshat.
At this point, he got the number for asshat #2 and starting calling him in the same way. After about another month of this, he called asshat #1 again, but this time stayed on the line. The expected response was of course "who the f*** is this if I ever meet you I'm going to kick your ass."
To this, Mr. Smith responded "My name is (name of person #2), you're an a-hole, and I'll be at Central Park. If you're a man, show up and I'll kick your ass."
After hanging up on asshat #2, he then placed a call to asshat #2. After making the same statements, he had asshat #2 also ready for a rumble in the park
Call #3 was to the police a little while later, where he reported that a gang fight was arising in Central Park in about 5 minutes.
Can't remember where I heard this before, but it strikes me as a great way to get revenge. You could do the same to two groups in chatrooms, since the anonymity factor would be able the same.
Am I the only reader seeing an image of gangmembers standing round in three piece suits and bandanas saying,
"I'll get my homies to speak to your homies and we'll arrange a conference call..."?
--darren
Why is it that these "mobs" of people can "come together", promoting violence, hatred, and fighting - amongst apparently (mostly) consenting adults (and disturbingly, children) - for what appear to be absolutely no reason at all! At best (in the cases of hooligans), it is over who's sports team is better!
Meanwhile, in the supposedly real world, we have people of all sorts (everywhere!), who are "arranging" their own sorts of "flash mobs" to kill each other over who knows what reason (is it oil? is it terrorism? is it entertainment?) - but no one is organizing "flash mobs" of protestors to stand against these attrocities against civilization!
We are living in a world of hate, anger, war and terror - yet I would bet that if you could poll each country's citizenry, likely 99% would say "yeah, I want peace, no fighting, just leave us alone, we'll leave you alone, and if you come visit, we can enjoy a brew down at the pub together"...
A sane society would each see the madmen for who they are, and get rid of them quickly and effectively, rather than letting them supposedly "lead" each other into conflicts that the majority don't really want.
You can't say to me that people really want war. You can't say to me that people really want body bags, sons and daughters missing limbs coming home, haunted looks in their eyes. You can't say to me people want to see each other blown up in a spray of bloody particles. Yet we continue to do what only a mad society would do.
Damnit! If only "The Day After Tommorow" wasn't a movie - we need a good cleaning to remind us of what is truely important (that, or just to show us, to our faces, what animals we really are - as if the current state of affairs can't do that)...
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Just because some people schedule a meeting (for coffee, fists, or whatever) with email, it's not necessarily a flashmob. A flashmob is organized by email, IM, SMS, or other P2P group messaging systems, to a group of people unknown to each other other than a "mutual friend", inviting a one-time group, doing something (shouting a word, throwing some punches), then immediately dispersing. This gang meetup features persistent groups and no dispersal. It's more like an IBM board meeting than a flashmob.
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is that they hate themselves for you. It's very convenient, actually.
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If you read the beginning of Distraction, you'll see something simlar. A great and frightening concept.
Witty quotes suck.
What if the kid told his parents he was going to a baseball game?
You're obviously a troll, but I'll still tell you a bit about how things are. I lived in southeast Dallas (specifically, Pleasant Grove) for a year. It is very much inner city, like Chicago's South Side, Bed-Sty in NYC, and Houston's Fifth Ward. Crime is rampant, people are killed on a daily basis, drug deals take place in broad daylight, and prostitutes stand in front of your car at stoplights. The people who live in those neighborhoods have no hope, are tragically addicted to crack, and turn to violence to solve their problems. Until the mid-1990s, it was overrun by Jamaican druglords who executed anyone they wanted.
The situation is only slightly better in Oak Cliff, where white people have been gentrifying old neighborhoods. This gentrification forces out the black folks who live in those houses, further straining race relations in this city. The black people move to the only other part of town that can sustain their low income: southeast Dallas.
So no, I don't consider myself really, really tough. I consider myself aware of a bad problem to which I have no solution.
But like I said, you're just a troll, so I guess I'm not speaking specifically to you.