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An anonymous reader writes "Who needs explosive missiles when you can just launch a 3 foot long chunk of metal at near Mach 7 speeds and get the same result? Popular Science looks at weapons the military is developing for future wars including electromagnetic railguns, space darts, superfast torpedos, laser cannons, and a gun that fires a million rounds per minute."
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holy crap i got first post and didn't claim it, go ahead and revoke my geek membership :(
you teh failure
Imagine a beowulf cluster of people killing me with those million rounds for posting about a beowulf cluster!
You're old school? I beta tested the motherf***ing abacus!
Dale Brown and his series of fictions based around Dreamland have been reporting on this and other weapons for ages. Is this a case of fact emulqating fiction?
Ahhhh... Sorry, I misunderstood your posting.
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You mean... peace? ;)
You're either with us or against us.
The British military probably has more extensive experience in occupying countries than just about any other army on earth. This goes back a long way.
The classic example is of a group of restless small-island colonies. Each one was owned and administered by a different colonial power, such as France, Spain and The U.K. The British island was soon sorted out, became peaceful and propserous. The other islands were still in a state of chaos 20 years later with fighting and various messes.
Quite apart from being a remarkably funny post. It is unfortunately true that the "tiddlywinks" motif has actually been looked at seriously, dropping specially shaped cupronickel (IIRC) discs from aircraft that heat up and reform into nice pointy molten metal bullets that tend to turn tanks into smoldering lumps of swiss cheese is a weapon that was mooted some years (20??) ago.
"The first thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is stop digging."
take note, however, that a mass is never easy to control. the situation may (and probably will) get out of hand pretty fast. and if this happens, then an educated person might even be more dangerous that an uneducated one, for he (less restrained because of his education) really is harder to control in such a situation.
Man is a slave because freedom is difficult, whereas slavery is easy.
Yes, and a little more mature as well.
Waitasec, does that make Ralph Nader Princess Leia?
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It's the end of my comment as I know it and I feel fine.
I am a great fan of CowboyNeal (after all, who isn't one?), but I really don't think these are the right days to post news telling us "look how cool the weapons of our army could be". I know, they are nerdy and hi-tech, and I used to like it.
But in these days, it is not that fun.
I find it highly disturbing that the US recoils in revulsion at the brutal beheading of one of its own, but bats nary an eyelid when superweapons designed to kill MILLIONS are announced.
It's called lack of empathy.
I've heard some people saying that the recent torture/humiliation photos "aren't that bad". However, I expect if the situation in the photos were reversed (e.g. a small Iraqi woman holding a naked, beaten up US marine on the end of a leash) those same people would be able to empathize with the victims a whole lot better...
Because he's a right-wing bastard like Bush and Howard.
You think he's against any of what's happened? Sure, he makes some concerned noises occasionally to make out to his people that he's the voice of reason, but Bush, Blair and Howard decided from day 1 what they were going to do, and everything else has been lies, deception, thuggery and murder.
you can't possibly believe they're all home grown
Great, just what the world needs, more cowboy yanks with bigger guns.
Spacebats ..they are brilliant!
No, Ralph Nader is Jar Jar
An entire generation was brainwashed to hate America as the enemy.
Are you being ironic?
Translation:
I support freedom of speech, as long as I agree with you.
Sorry pal, this isn't Civilization. You can't just improve relations with other countries by throwing money at them.
So until we do find a way to make everyone happy with us (yeah right!) I think it's a good idea to invest in technology that can A. make military operations less costly and B. requires that fewer soldiers be put in the line of fire when the shit DOES hit the fan.
"Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
No it's not. The conservative party was the reason tha the peace process was stalled for so long in Northern Ireland. The Conservatives held a weak majority and therefore required the support of the Ulster Unionists (who unquestioningly supported Mr Major in return for him not compromising on the Northern Ireland issue). The only way Major helped the peace process way by so sensationally messing up the 1997 election, and allowing Tony Blair a nice comfortable majority to play with
Socialists like giving aid to third world countries because a) it justifies higher taxation at home and b) they don't need to trouble themselves about the root causes.
Although your comment contains an elemtent of truth, I don't see anyone care about conflics and political instability in Africa (from which the 'average African suffers mostly). I believe it's better giving aid to those in need than to totally ignore the misery of millions. About the higher taxation: I do believe the annual spending of the average Western country (socialist or not) is only marginal compared to e.g. military expenses. And I (living in a social, not socialist country) have never heard anyone mention third-world aid as an excuse of higher taxation.
I have two points to make:
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1. I don't live in America, you NAZI.
2. Do something about your government, Consumerican
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
pfftt... what are you, an insult machine?
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just admit it, your situation is hopeless. you live in a land not your own, and the walls of your palace are coming down
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
There rides a peace train. Peace train take this country... Come take me home again....
Do you know what Sunnis and Shi'ites are fighting over?
... because there are people like you in the world who serve only to justify inhumanity, not do something about it ... we get gun-makers arming teenagers.
Take two Sunni children and two Shi'ite children, give them a mud-making machine away from all the adults, and show them how to work together to make houses for all the lepers in the neighborhood.
There. Peace.
But no
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
With this weapon I can bring pain and suffering to all that stand in my path!
If one can withstand that force of evil.. then I will have to bring to bear such weapons of mass distruction such as: From Justin to Kelly, Glitter or any Power Rangers movie!
Ok, since I just gave the US Gov all these great weapon ideas... can I have the money I just saved them in R&D?
As far as I'm concerned, that goes for financial decision-making as well. What kind of freedom do we have when we have virtually no say in how 35-50% of our paycheck is spent?
"Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
if brits are so great, then why don't they get their arses out of northern ireland....
man you just don't get it, that is NOT going to happen unless lets say... a powerfull country does that or forcs peace on them... or they kill each other.
IIRC he wasn't in the restaurant at all.
If you read that, it says we consistently give the most foreign aid of any country in the world. And what did it get us? 4 hijacked planes and -3000 innocent civilians.
"Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
Take two Sunni children and two Shi'ite children, give them a mud-making machine away from all the adults
Everone else has already pounded your larger points into a fine-grained powder, so it looks like it's up to me to ask the question everyone has been avoiding: what the fuck is this "mud-making machine" you keep babbling about?
No, seriously.
Where you come from, what happens when you combine dirt and water without mechanical aid?
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Comparing the Northern Ireland problem to al-Qaeda is like comparing apples to oranges. They had the sense to compromise. Islamic militants throughout history have been shown to not believe in compromise, they just want their religion to conquer the globe..
From your link:
"In the 1991 Gulf war, nine British soldiers were killed by their US allies, the same number as were killed by enemy fire."
Comparing the Northern Ireland problem to al-Qaeda is like comparing apples to oranges.
A literal comparison, yes, but if you look at root causes then I don't think it is so dumb. The root causes of both are essentially social, and that seems to be overlooked by the current administration, who view it as a "war".
It's nice to see a country with the balls to try to make things better.
--BiggerIsBetter
Hmm, interesting combination of name and message...
You apparently are very much unaware of how education and media collude to control what and how you perceive the world, with the ultimate goal of conrolling what you do with your life.
In fact, what you say is so wrong that the simple reason mandatory education was ever implemented was specifically to better control the masses.
People are not innately consumers or internationalists or egalitarians. Only through relentless propaganda do people give into the international system of finance we have in place. Only then do they crave new material goods, or welcome endless hordes of foreign immigrants, or believe their system of society should be imposed on the entire world. Education is absolutely necessary to maintain our current system.
Also, I should say that your point of view is very representative of the ridiculous points of view found on American college campuses. Try and examine the world without parrotting the views of your teachers and your 5 million fellow rebel students.
I don't read or respond to AC posts
Instead you invaded Iraq, which you knew, beyond all reasonable doubt, had no WMD...
Beyond all reasonable doubt? Hardly...just because they haven't been found doesn't mean they don't exist! How hard would it be to take weapons into that God-forsaken wasteland of desert and bury them? One sandstorm later and all trace is gone.
Now you don't have to hide the weapons. You only have to hide a set of GPS coordinates!
Of course the questions beg to be asked:
1) How could this happen under the nose of satellite surveillance?
2) Can you remove all traces of nuclear & biological weapons so that we couldn't detect them? I don't know the answer, but I would say there is reasonable doubt (at least in my mind).
Watching from the inside its hard to sleep too.
And then you have the gall to pontificate about how we need to "work towards real peace"?
As if somehow western democracies are equally to blame for wack-job Islamic nutcases who think they get 72 virgins for eternity if they manage to kill a few "infidels" along with themselves? If anyone really believes that crap about the west being the "root cause" of all the troubles in the world, well, you're just buying into the last desperate gasp of Marxism and its history of wonderful economic and political success that has murdered untold millions over the past century-plus.
What kind of fucking idiot (or would that be "useful fucking idiot"...) thinks that we can "work towards real peace" with folks whose horrific acts back up their publically-stated willingness to die themselves just to kill those with different beliefs? These guys claim they want to kill us and they're willing to die trying. And guess what? They do kill us and die trying.
truth hurts huh? how about disproving the facts of grandparent instead of your mindless, ignorant drivel?
the "root cause" (to use the fancy schamcy bleeding heart liberal term) of "terrorism" in Northern Ireland is that the GOD DAMNED BRITISH WON'T GET OUT OF IRELAND AND GIVE US BACK OUR FUCKING ISLAND!!!!!!! No right at all to be there. Quite frankly, if my mates gave me a suitcase nuke and told me to blow up the london underground, i'd have no qualms at all about doing it. 800 years of brutal, racist oppression. it cannot stand.
anyway, muslims are bent on world domination, not fighting against occupiers of their land. 15 active conflicts, all of which have to do with muslims not getting along with their neighbors. do you really think that in Indonysia, they will stop chopping off the headsd of christians if Israel stops fighting for their survival?
All Muslims hate Jews. They may not all be terrorists, but not all Nazis were in the SS. Islam is like Nazism only 10x worse. the SS didn't wrap themselves in Christ as they were administering Zyklon-B. And I know sure has hell it wasn't Christ or Mary or St. Patrick that put an Armalite in my hand and told me to fight for Ireland.
Islam is a social disease. It spreads like AIDS. It must be eliminated before they take over the western world and crush the light of humanity, plunging the world into 1000 years of darkness. If you don't believe that will happen, then i hope you're the last one they kills, so that you can see every other decent human being perish before your eyes and know full well it was the disbelief of people like you that let darkness spread over the land. There is no fleaing to Numinor in this realm, my friend.
Sinn Féin.
There were lots of land losses after WW I & II.
Many of them were quite unfair (Finland comes to mind), but the people from the lost areas moved out to neighboring countries -- and there is no problem today. Except for one case.
Now, tell me what makes it much worse with Israel?
It was not an existing country before and would, without the present state, have been part of another country. It should have been much less of a problem than many other areas.
(And then we have the literally hundreds of less criticism over literally hundreds of times worse treatment of non-muslims by muslims in Sudan over decades. Etc, etc, etc.)
It seems to me you're really simplifying a complex matter.
Karma: Excellent (My Karma? I wish...:-( )
Yeah. It wouldn't be so bad if the Murricans took themselves out first ...
People like me, eh? I haven't started any genocidal wars, not that I can remember.
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You've done nothing but justify war the entire thread. Those who can find an infinite # of ways to justify war are the ones who are letting it happen
The problem with liberals like you is that you assume that people are fundamentally cooperative and sane, if only the nasty Warmongers (or Americans or Jews or Capitalists or whoever you blame) would go away, the world would return to Eden-like bliss. My advice to you is to grow up a bit.
The problem with people like you is you seem to think its okay to just let entropy have its way with our race. Where is the love?
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
I think you meant to say: "I live in South Africa, where sarcasm is completely unknown."
Puff the Nuclear Weapon
Puff the Nuclear Weapon was pointed at Iraq,
and waited in his submarine for the signal to attack.
Little George Bush Junior, he loved that rascal puff,
and all those days, he nightly prayed for the UN to get tough.
oh
Puff the Nuclear Weapon lived in the sea,
protecting all our freedoms to
a brand new SUV.
Puff the Nuclear Weapon lived in the sea,
protecting all our freedoms to
a brand new SUV.
Now Puff he liked to travel, so he wore travelling clothes
While Bush was home and on the phone, from locations undisclosed.
Presidents and Princes, they bowed when'ere he came,
and Nation States lowered their flags when Puff roared out his name.
oh
Puff the Nuclear Weapon defender of the peace,
securing the world's oil supply
and the occasional golden fleece.
Puff the Nuclear Weapon defender of the peace,
securing the world's oil supply
and hte occasional golden fleece.
Plutonium lasts for ever, but not so little boys.
ICBMs and M-16s give way to... other toys.
And one grey day it happened: The traders broke the Dow.
So Puff the Nuclear Weapon's on the open market now.
His warhead packed in plastic, green crates that bore his name.
Poor Puff would not intimidate for the Stars and Stripes again.
Without his life long friend, poor puff could not be brave,
so al-Qaida hid that that weapon in a deep, dark, man-made cave.
oh
Puff the Nuclear Weapon lived in the sea,
but now he's in a backpack
some where close to you and me.
Puff the Nuclear Weapon defender of the free,
and you can blame it all upon
Bush fiscal policy.
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The trouble is that even though education is nice, it's not everything.
Most university students are ignorant about life, but are book smart.
Somehow most of them think that experiances from 15 or so years of education combined with mass media is a substitute for real life experiance.
Thus they usually overestimate their ability to discerne right and wrong and are easily manipulated buy people with a agenda that feeds into their self-rightiousness and arrogance.
Thus are actually much more easily manipulated then other people.
VERY easily manipulated.
For most of these people this is the first time they actually have spent more then a few weeks out of the protective custody of their families. So most of them know very little other then what they picked up in their own households or on TV.
So they may know a bit of history and are capable of doing triginometry, but for actual life experience most college people are not much more evolved then when they were 14 or 15.
For instance most of them don't realise that there are people out there that are smart, very manipulative and realy don't care much about other people.
And I don't mean in a vauge "I am corporate bastard" sort of way, I mean they just don't care and would kill somebody as much as look at them if they thought they could get away with it.
So it's not suprising that many college age students end up being terrorists and whatnot. You do you think in the USA colleges are recruitment centers for activists, the military, and credit card companies?
Most of them are just looking for somebody to follow, somebody they can use to create a reality for them to stabilise their changing role in sociaty. They are looking for stability, but lack the ability to discern.
So it's a easy leap to become raging enviromentalists, communists, socialists, or a muslim fundamentalists.
All these roles create a well defined persona for them to mold themselves too.
They are mostly incapable of thinking for themselves and often turn to recreational drug and alchohol use if they can't find some group to leach onto. Just so they can aviod thinking to deeply about themselves and make it easier to externalise their problems onto vague-enough world veiws. This way they can make themselves think that somehow they have a insight that most people lack. That the people on the radio or that work in the stores have some sort of lack of understanding of reality, that its everybody ELSE that lives in a bubble.
Basicly it keeps them from scaring themselves to much.
But this is a normal part of growing up. A person needs to go thru a couple years of freaking themselves out everyonce of a while.
It's sort of like the twenty-somethings version of intellectual teething. Avioding this can lead to a life were prozak can be your only answer.
Of course blowing yourself up, or using your education to support people that mean to do your country too much harm is taking this experiance just a bit far.
1. You kill everyone.... that's your patented solution. How about a blowing away the green house effect.
2. You support your government and that's the scary part. Labeling every one else as facist or commie makes me you look really smart.
So which "truth" is it that they need to recognize?
The truth can hurt, but lies are really irritating.
Facts? I don't see any facts to disprove. I see some statements that, in my opinion, cannot be proven because they are false. Give me some hard data and I'll either refute it with more hard data or concede the point.
Now we come to the crux of the matter. Most so called "education" is actually brainwashing and is a perversion of the kind of personal development and mentoring that used to happen only for the sons of nobles long ago.
Education comes from the root latin "Educare" which means to draw out, or to extract the resource which is already there like drawing water from a well. To school someone on the other hand is to force them into a class of person which has certain known skills, attributes and capabilities and then make them into a cog in the machine.
A truly educated person is hard to control, because they will have the knowledge, opinions and most importantly the fully developed critical mind to make their own decisions.
A truly schooled person will be easy to control, because they've spent years of their life being trained to do as they're told.
Both of these individuals can do what an untrained person cannot - devise new ways of making peace and war.
Think about that, and look at the person sitting next to you. Can you trust them with an education?
Okay, you do that; I'll sit here and wait for the video of you getting your head cut off to surface on the internet.
1. What if the people you kill aren't actually fascists, but you label them that way just so that you can get away with it?
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2. Your government is criminal and repressive. By default then, so are you.
3. Your post is now bookmarked as a prime example of yet another robo-Consumerican spouting vitriol and hatred
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
You've done nothing but justify war the entire thread. Those who can find an infinite # of ways to justify war are the ones who are letting it happen ...
Can't you tell the difference between advocacy and explanation?
Where is the love?
Love - for God, for country, for leader, whatever - is a primary cause of war.
You don't hear much from Mr. Plame since his book came out. The book that says his sources in Niger confirmed that Iraq was fishing for yellow cake in Niger.
Umm, BZZT. The documents the whole case was built on were fraudulent. Go study current affairs.
His wife wasn't a "CIA spy", either. Just because someone works for the CIA, doesn't mean they are operating under official cover
She was an undercover operative for the CIA, who 'worked' for a shell company. Everyone who ever had any dealings with this company or lady was put at risk by this (illegal) disclosure. You're wrong on both counts. Watch a lot of Fox?
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Bin Laden, and most of the 9/11 hijackers, were (are) Saudis. They could give a shit about Palestinians. What gets up the radical Islamist Saudi's nose is their own corrupt royal family, supported with the full force of the US military. So their short term aim was to provoke the US into more extreme actions in the Middle East, causing a backlash that would eventually force out any local government that was friendly with the US. So far, it's all going to plan. (Has anyone ever seen Rumsfeld and bin Laden at the same time in two different places -- something to consider...)
No but there has been a lot of "small" conflict caused by the world powers during the last 60 years which now threaten even the largest powers (Soviet-Afganistan -> bin Laden, Iran-Iraq -> Saddam, China-U.N. -> North Korea)
Thank God otherwise we would end up with a fucking Nanny state here in US as well.
Maybe if the Palestinians had a real leader they could help themselves out.
here fucking here.
Isn't it also unfair, illegal and cruel to strap a bomb to your chest and blow up a bus at the behest of Mr. Arafat?
There are four boxes used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order.
i think you haven't been to enough bdsm porn sites.
what happened at abu ghraib was torture (and worse things), no question about it. but US+European+Japanese taste in porn is such that a lot of people are familiar with role-playing of some of these situations. this can take away some of the initial shock on seeing the pictures, though not the revulsion as one realises what went on.
It is the US forces who need to get a clue. How can they convince the iraqi people they're there to help if they sick their arsenal on a bunch of guys in a town?
Love - for God, for country, for leader, whatever - is a primary cause of war.
LOVE == WAR. DOUBLEPLUSGOOD, CITIZEN!
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
Overlooked ?
Are you that dense ?
They are spending BILLIONS rebuilding both of these nations and you are claiming they are overlooking the issue.
I mean, I understand your dislike for Bush and his cronies but at least try to keep within boundaries of reality.
(Has anyone ever seen Rumsfeld and bin Laden at the same time in two different places -- something to consider...)
You mean they're actually the same person...?
I don't need a signature.
Fascists, Islamists, Religious Zealots, whatever. Give them a label and then smash them into the ground.
... so I won't argue.
I guess its the only thing you and your 'state' are good at
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
Unfortunately, reducing Afghanistan from a Third World country to worse, and invading Iraq for no clear strategic reason other than GWB's dad never managed it, means bin Laden isn't going to go into retirement just yet.
To use an old West Country proverb, the Middle East is like an old turd drying in the sun. The more you mess with it, the worse it stinks.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
Sadly enough, that's exactly what they're doing now.
Perhaps No Student Left Behind will change all that?
HAH, I made a joke.
No, your real problem is that your list of friends is growing shorter at a rapid pace.
More and more countries are neutral vis a vis the US. Not actively working against it, but certainly not bothering to help.
Sure, You have all the firepower You need to fight your wars alone, but without the help of foreign intelligence, airstrips and military bases it is a lot harder.
And even though few states actively support terrorists, some start to care less and less about fighting them, as long as their targets are somewhere else...
All opinions are my own - until criticized
yeah like christians and god n hell, they even dedicate buildings called churches so they can speak to people in their heads
people are not brainwashed to hate America, they hate you because of your actions, change those and those that hate might change their opinions
you have no idea how much damage GWB has done in the last 4years to your country, you will have now to suffer the consequences for generations to come
still at least my children are not dying for a small bunch of criminal neocons, so what do i care if yours do ?
Obviously you've never watched a lot of the BBC News output, otherwise you'd know that's one of the most pig-ignorant statements made on Slashdot for a while. The BBC is no friend of big business, and whilst it may be called a corporation, it does not operate along the same lines.
if you give -any- large group of people sufficient means to self-sustain their communities, and make those means available to all and sundry, you will reduce tensions in the area.
I'll think you'll find with this, is that once a large group of people can self-sustain their communities, tensions often INCREASE as they start to look enviously at someone else's self-sustaining community.
Also, another suggestion. Capital Letters are your friend - Go on, dont't be Afraid ! Use them !
This is their big problem in Iraq. Americans just don't do peacekeeping.
The usual pattern of things throughout the wars in Yugoslavia throughout the nineties was: Milosevic starts war. Atrocities commence. Americans start bombing, threaten to invade. Milosevic backs off. Yugoslavia gets a bit smaller. Europeans keep peace under UN flag. The result of this is that the Americans end up with an army that's absolutely brilliant at invading countries and crushing opposition, but doesn't know its arse from its elbow in keeping order afterwards.
Of course, the Europeans didn't exactly cover themselves with glory in the Balkans. Srebrenica was an utterly appalling failure.
Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
There were lots of land losses after WW I & II.
...worse treatment of non-muslims by muslims in Sudan
Land losses are one thing, but where can you go if your country basically ceases to exist?
It was not an existing country before...
But there was a strong feeling of a being a nation before. For example, Poland as as state didn't exist for hundreds of years, but the people always considered themselves a nation.
That's because it's in Africa. It sounds cynical, but international politics is not interested in Africa. The people in Sudan are poor, the country has little military power and there are few natural resources.
I mean, how long did it take for the world to recognize what's happening in Rwanda?
It seems to me you're really simplifying a complex matter.
Of course I do. It's a posting on Slashdot, not a 20-volume encyclopedia about the history of the Middle East.
I don't need a signature.
Oh it's due to sub-standard training alright. The british in question didn't know where they were and wandered into a kill box for an A-10.
I don't know, but if I'm traveling in the featureless desert, I'm going to do my damnedest to stay away from those places on the map where the most effective armor killers ever made have been told to loiter and destroy anything that moves.
They're lucking one of those armored formation busting cluster mutions wasn't deployed in time to be call in on them.
Your moral equivalency test fails.
Do you know what Sunnis and Shi'ites are fighting over? Whether Mohammed's heirs should have been his sons or his disciples. They've been killing each other over this for 1300 years. You think a mud brick machine is going to help here???
You've got to admit, though, that one never sees rich people fighting over shit like this. When was the last time two first-world, democratic countries, with reasonable basic standards of living for their citizens, went to war over anything?
Well, okay, about sixty years ago. But you get my point. Poor people are much more likely to seek to solve thier problems by blowing stuff (or themselves) up, becuase they've got less to lose.
Rich lunatics such as Bin Laden excepted, of course. Damn, this is turning out not to be as strong a point as I had hoped.
evil math within Nature's Cubic Creation!
That's quite enough from you, froggie. Now, would you please send al Queda one of your efficient French guillotines so that they don't have to hack the heads off of Jews with a dull sword anymore?
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
2. Yes there were plently of excuses aired as to why we should invade Iraq. Apparently the Bush administration, the CIA and the Pentagon argued at great lengths over which excuse to use, and WMD was all they could agree on. The one thing worse than a big lie used to start a war is a collection of big lies used to start a war. I beleive the court at Nuremberg called this type of war the 'ultimate crime' that 'contained all other crimes'.
3. Bullshit. Iraq is a conquest. The war is on everybody who disagrees with the US's wars of conquest. As an antiwar demonstrator, I can personally testify that our local police see me as the enemy, and use the same sort of rough-handling tactics as the US occupying forces to 'keep us in line'.
4. You think you can take anything you don't agree with and slap an 'Al Qaeda' tag on it. That's pretty handy, but very flawed logic. In fact, there is now speculation that the beheading of Nick Berg was arranged and paid for by the US to shift the focus away from the US's war crimes. You have to admit, the US have been taking a beating recently. The timing was remarkable. And even if the above speculation turns out to be untrue, if the US invaded my country and treated my people the way the Iraqis are being treated, I'm sure I'd think about doing the same thing, and I certainly wouldn't be alone. But all this talk al Al Qaeda ignores the fact that it is official policy to systematically toture, rape and execute Iraqi civilians. That heartless bitch that's had her pictures splashed all over the news recently ( you know, the one with the stupid grin who points at the Iraqis in various homosexual poses ) claims ( as do her partners in crime ) that she was merely following orders . Some orders!
6. Resorting to taking quotes from other war criminals? Well done. But your quote is good advice for your fearless leader. Surely Baby Bush is one of the biggest dickheads to ever graze the US's pastures. Is he the best you could do. Really? That's pretty sad. The man doesn't have a fucking clue, and as your wise quote points out, he'd be much better off shutting his mouth and letting people wonder.