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Trained Rats for Mine Detection

rikomatic writes "The dangerous profession of anti-personnel mine detection is getting a surprising new tool: giant Gambian rats (NY Times reg). Some resourceful Belgians have figured out how to train these 30-inch rodents to hunt out landmines. They are cheaper and work harder than dogs and are more reliable than metal detectors. Plus, if one of them blows up, who's going to cry?"

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  1. Dumb rats! by shoaler · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, they can't be trained too well or they'd have enough sense to stay away from those land mines.

    1. Re:Dumb rats! by T-Ranger · · Score: 5, Funny
      "Throw a stick for a dog to fetch, and after 10 times the dog will say, `Get it yourself, buddy,' "

      Clearly Mr. Weetjens has never met a Border Collie

    2. Re:Dumb rats! by naChoZ · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Throw a stick for a dog to fetch, and after 10 times the dog will say, `Get it yourself, buddy,' "

      I had a friend with a pitbull who purchased one fresh case of frisbees per summer because after the tenth throw, the dog didn't want to run again. So he shredded the frisbee with his teeth and dropped it at his owner's feet and looked at him like "There, throw that, m-f'er..."

      I saw one, too. Poor frisbee...

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    3. Re:Dumb rats! by Rocky+Mudbutt · · Score: 3, Funny
      Actually, they wanted to use lawyers but found the rats would work cheaper.

      There are some things a rat won't do. For everything else there's HATCH, JAMES & DODGE, P.C.

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    4. Re:Dumb rats! by Helios1182 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think our Cairn Terrier had that beat. While my parents would get us ready for bed at night they would trough a tennis ball down the stairs and the dog would run down to fetch it and bring it back up. She could do this for 1 - 1.5 hours at a time.

    5. Re:Dumb rats! by carlos_benj · · Score: 2, Funny

      (rinse, lather, repeat)

      Hey, I remember you! The guy who walks downtown with a stick and sudsy hair....

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    6. Re:Dumb rats! by Thing+1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      My folks have a dog who plays ball by herself: she'll nudge the ball closer and closer to the edge of the porch, catching it just in time, until finally she pushes it off the edge and runs down, brings it back up, and starts over again. She prefers if we throw it for her (lacrosse sticks work great for this--good range with little motion, and no touching the slimy ball), but when we tire, she starts being a little scientist. ;-)

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  2. Even dogs are getting outsourced... by aapold · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rats don't have a union and get paid 1/10th the food dogs do...

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    1. Re:Even dogs are getting outsourced... by scubacuda · · Score: 2, Funny
      Hey...that sounds like programmers also.

    2. Re:Even dogs are getting outsourced... by Eccles · · Score: 5, Funny

      And note that these are Gambian rats. Even our rats are being outsourced!

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  3. Anti-rodent bias in humans! by Xoder · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sick of this anti-rodent bias in humans! "Plus, if one of them blows up, who's going to cry?" says the poster, and not a one of you will disagree with him, will you?

    Fuckin' speciests, the lot of you!


    On a more serious note, people will be upset about this, if only because it costs time and money to train any animal, even rats.

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  4. Use Lawyers Instead by SloWave · · Score: 4, Funny


    Why not use lawyers instead. They aren't as cute and no-one gets attached to them.

    1. Re:Use Lawyers Instead by MrRuslan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Especially SCO lawyers...

    2. Re:Use Lawyers Instead by stienman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why not use lawyers instead. They aren't as cute and no-one gets attached to them.

      The article points out that you have to be at least as smart as a gambian rat to do this kind of work.

      -Adam

    3. Re:Use Lawyers Instead by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 5, Funny

      At least PETA won't raise a stink about them - they only care about the animals.

      Reasons Why A Lawyer Won't Suffice
      1. They're harder to train than rats.
      2. They won't actually work, but they'll demand to be paid.
      3. If there's a loophole, they'll find it. But they won't find any mines.
      4. Lawyers won't die when you blow them up. You have to cauterize the wound, or two heads will grow in its place.
      5. They're sure to object.

      I watch too much Law & Order.

    4. Re:Use Lawyers Instead by coyote_oww · · Score: 4, Funny
      And you forgot, no one is going to cry when one blows up

      Problem with this is that it may actually encourage people to lay mines, so as to cause lawyers to be consumed in the de-mining process...

    5. Re:Use Lawyers Instead by Fearless+Freep · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm willing to risk it

  5. Careful now by JohnGrahamCumming · · Score: 4, Funny

    > Plus, if one of them blows up, who's going to cry?

    My father was a giant Gambian rat, you insensitive clod!

    John.

    1. Re:Careful now by irokitt · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did he smell of elderberries?

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  6. Obligatory Princess Bride quote by Plaeroma · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Rodents of unusual size? They don't exist!" *rat attacks*

  7. Another alternative. by Jaywalk · · Score: 4, Funny
    if one of them blows up, who's going to cry?
    Aww, I think they're cute. Any chance of training Darl instead?
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    1. Re:Another alternative. by JesseL · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, because Darl obviously never learns.

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  8. maybe, but by AviLazar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not as cool as my trained sharks with frickin laser beams....

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  9. hm by EMH_Mark3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Plus, if one of them blows up, who's going to cry?

    uhm.. the guy who paid x thousand dollars to have it trained?

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  10. The rats will get outsourced too by MooseByte · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Rats don't have a union and get paid 1/10th the food dogs do..."

    That's OK, just wait 'til those damn rats get outsourced to IT workers, who don't have a union and get paid 1/10th of the rats.

  11. Re:Dophins got competition... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Bats baby... Then you even have operatives that can work in total darkness.

  12. Who will care? by Woogiemonger · · Score: 5, Funny

    Plus, if one of them blows up, who's going to cry?

    The rats' pan-dimensional, super-intelligent kindred will care, and I would not want to tangle with them.

  13. Bring on... by The+Ultimate+Fartkno · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...the "Rat Patrol" jokes.

    And how long 'til we hear "Hey! Whose rat is this?"

    "MINE!"

  14. Somebody has to say it... by iabervon · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Rodents Of Unusual Size? Frankly, I don't think they... " *boom*

  15. Gambian National Anthem by Mad+Man · · Score: 5, Funny

    from Dr. Fegg's Encyclopedia of All World Knowledge

    Dr. Fegg has only ever written one national anthem. Here it is, reproduced for the first time. Dr. Fegg would like to remind all his readers that he has not yet been paid for it.

    -The Gambian National Anthem-

    Gambia, Oh Gambia,
    Though only small and thin,
    When it comes to being called Gambia,
    You are the one to win.

    Your capital is Bathurst
    A name that means so much
    To you who live in Gambia,
    Though less so to the Dutch.

    Gambia, where men are men
    And trees fit in the ground.
    The one six-lettered nation
    Where Gambians abound!

    Gambians! O Gambians!
    Though your country is so thin
    And most of it a river
    It's the place that you live in.

    From mountains down to flat bits,
    Ring out your anthem great,
    Though now you're part of Senegal
    The words are out of date.

    -Bertram Wesley Fegg DD

    WARNING: Humming of this anthem, even to oneself, renders the reader liable for royalty payments. These should be sent to Dr. Fegg personally and *not*, repeat *not* to the chisellers at the Gambian embassy. ::Note::
    Many people ask: What is Dr. Fegg a doctor *of*? Well, without going into specifics Dr. Fegg has tried his hand at many things in his time.

    His is the sort of mind that can encompass deck chair repairing, sweeping, billposting and the buying and selling of cars with one previous owner. So it is perhaps unfair and irrelevant to confine his extraordinary talents to the mundane world of labels and categories.

    Dr. Fegg *has* delivered babies, but only during the busy pre-Christmas period when the Post Office can't cope. And Dr. Fegg has done brain surgery-- though *never*, repeat *never* in the Bournemouth area.

  16. Re:I'm sure the ASPCA will just LOVE this by AviLazar · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am sure countries with mine infestation problems will really care what animal rights organizations have to cry about. All I would have to do to gain some sympathy is put two-four 8 year olds with missing limbs because of land mines. That will shut up most people who want to complain about rats that breed like...well rats...

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  17. Trained Rats for Mine Detection... by Unnngh! · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...so, Darl has finally been trained to do something useful?

  18. Did anyone else get the feeling.... by pcgamez · · Score: 2, Funny

    that at the end of the article, it was going to mention how Mr. Cox has an uncle who died and left US 3.4M in a Tanzanian bank and with your help, it can be recovered?

  19. Why don't they use womp rats? by The+I+Shing · · Score: 4, Funny

    They should use womp rats.

    They're not much bigger than two meters.

    So what if a bunch of kids on Tatooine don't have live targets anymore? They should be using their T16s for more constructive things, anyway.

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  20. Re:Why bother training? by happyfrogcow · · Score: 2, Funny

    better yet, make it into a Junkyard Wars episode. the team to detonate the most land mines by hurling giant rats with a catapult wins.

  21. Re:Who is going to care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The solution is obvious... use PETA members instead of the rats. I like rats.

  22. Added Bonus... by Dolentron+3030 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the rats do get killed by the mines it'll give the troops a nice break from their MREs.

  23. New prison parole scheme for lifers by Gothmolly · · Score: 2, Funny

    Any prisoner for life can apply - you just have to run through a field potentially filled with landmines. If you make it, you're free. If not, well, too bad.

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  24. I for one... by bcmm · · Score: 0, Funny

    I for one welcome our new Gaint Rat overlords...

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  25. Re:Who is going to care? by Kenja · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Screw PETA, kids avoid getting blown up while playing soccer etc beacuse of stuff like this."

    Why the hell are kids playing soccer in the ocean surrounded by mines?

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  26. Stuart Little just got drafted! by Libertarian_Geek · · Score: 5, Funny


    Or...
    Brain: Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? Pinky: I think so Brain, but I'd rather go hump a landmine.. Narf! {BOOM!!!}

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  27. Re:HAH! by gUmbi · · Score: 2, Funny

    PETA. They'll be all over this.

    We could use PETA members to sniff them out instead but I think the patchouli might interfere with the mine-detection.

    Is there a People for the Ethical Treatment of PETA Members (PETPETAM) we need to worry about?

    Jason.

  28. Re:HAH! by blunte · · Score: 2, Funny

    Heh heh heh.

    But clearly your friend wasn't a true PETA member, or he/she would have been violent toward you when you received your meal. This also would have kept you distracted while the ELF people lit your SUV on fire in the parking lot.

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  29. Re:Who is going to care? by chimpo13 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are you saying PETA destroyed any credibility with "holocaust on your plate"? That's where PETA compared bacon to millions of dead Jews, Roma (Gypsies), the handicapped, Slavs (Poles, Russians, and others), Communists, Socialists, Jehovah's Witnesses, and homosexuals. If so, you're crazy. It's obviously the same thing, as any Hannibal Lector will tell you.

  30. Re:HAH! by sirgoran · · Score: 2, Funny

    Doesn't PETA stand for People Eating Tasty Animals?

    (just wondering)

    -Goran

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  31. Re:they won't by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 3, Funny

    Actually, when they start they aren't heavy enough. But each time they find a mine, they get food. So after a certain number of mines, the rats will be heavy enough and then: Rat-burgers!

  32. Re:Who is going to care? by Spatula+Sam · · Score: 5, Funny
    Why the hell are kids playing soccer in the ocean surrounded by mines?

    Hey I think you just invented the next x-game.

  33. Re:Who is going to care? by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Ever heard of a *land* mine?"

    Yes. But I've never heard of dolphins being trained to find them.

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  34. Re:Who is going to care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    According to this article on The Age, the rats do not weigh enough to set off the mines. So, they are far less likely to get blown up as a human or dog. Therefore, using them is more humane than using a dog. If demining organizations don't use rats or dogs, what do they use? I suppose we could use PETA members. Any volunteers???

  35. Re:Who is going to care? by Annirak · · Score: 1, Funny

    Lets follow this thread through and see what happened. First, thebra made a statement, then he cited a similar example to back himself up.

    thebra:
    Statement: "Well I'm gonna guess PETA might care."
    Support:"They aren't happy about the military using dolphins."

    Next kunudo made an assertion that we shouldn't care about thebra's statement

    kunudo's Reply: "Screw PETA, kids avoid getting blown up while playing soccer etc beacuse of stuff like this."

    Then you came out of left field, obviously having not understood the above sequence of posts.

    You: "Why the hell are kids playing soccer in the ocean surrounded by mines?"

    I think you missed something.

  36. Let's don't by Kjella · · Score: 2, Funny

    Aww, I think they're cute. Any chance of training Darl instead?

    ...and say we did, and send him out there anyway.

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  37. One twist...make 'em hunt AND detonate. by chadjg · · Score: 1, Funny

    It seems to me that the areas that are most heavily mind also grow or have easy access to heroin. I say we use one problem to solve another. Why not get a bunch of rats, and make them into a bunch of raging crack whores. during training the lab techs could mix small amouns of the explosive they are trying to clear in with the drugs they get as a reward for doing a job. Then you haul a bunch of these rats into the target area, wait till they are really jonesing for a fix and let them go. It might be good to tell everyone to stay under cover first though. Like the above and the article points out, the rats may not set off the mines by walking on them, but would they if they started clawing at them thinking that somebody hid a dime bag inside? I know this sounds terribly bloody minded, but it seems like a good choice on ethical and rational grounds. And, I admit, it would be fun to see the PETA freaks explode in rage.

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  38. Who's going to cry?!?! by tbase · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Plus, if one of them blows up, who's going to cry?"

    I was raised by giant Gambian rats, you insensitive... oh nevermind. I'm calling Peta, the People for the Eating of Tasty Animals.

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  39. Perfect job for Spammers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    After reading the various replies, it is obvious that there is a small percentage of people who would actually regret the loss of a rat.

    We should train Spammers instead! Certainly no one would miss them. In fact, we could outfit them with lead boots for extra fun.

  40. Re:Who is going to care? by Kadagan+AU · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's why there's so many college kids that have nutritional problems. They decide to become vegetarians because it's "cool" or whatever, but they don't actually do their homework and learn how to do it properly, so they end up with insufficient protein, low iron, etc.

    Silly me, I thought my nutritional problems in college were due to junk food and alcohol. ;)

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  41. Originally they were going to use Seagulls by aapold · · Score: 2, Funny

    But they got too many false positives. Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine!

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  42. trained mines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I could use some trained mines for rat detection in my apartment.

  43. Re:Rodents could be sentient. by GodotJr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Rest assured that that connection would cease to be there if it doesn't find the mine carefully enough. At that point it would fail the sentient test and become merely "sent'.

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  44. I HATE mine sweeper... by Dareth · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have always hated mine sweeper. I say let the rats have it. They must be better than me at guessing what all those numbers over the squares mean!

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  45. Obligatory Futurama Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Bender: Who wants dolphin? [Everyone gasps]
    Leela: Dolphin? But dolphins are intelligent.
    Bender: Not this one. He blew all his money on instant lottery tickets.
    Leela: Oh. That's different. Pass the blowhole.

  46. Re:Who is going to care? by peg0cjs · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yet there is no logical reason to deny animals the same rights that protect individual humans from being sacrificed for the common good.

    I will happily grant Rover the exact same "human" rights as a person as soon as he files his lawsuit against the government.

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  47. Re:Who is going to care? by Mateito · · Score: 2, Funny

    Even if it wasn't mine, I'd save the dog.

    Because the dog's family are less likely to sue if I hurt the person in the process of saving their life.

  48. Reminds me of mechanical bunnies in Full Throttle by gades · · Score: 2, Funny

    *Mild spoiler warning!* ... Which you had to use to clear the minefield in front of the Vulture's hideout. Cute, yellow, mechanical bunnies handled by a grizzly biker. LucasArts was ahead of its time on that one!