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No $50 iPod Clone From Microsoft

dncsky1530 writes "In a previous Slashdot story, the Denver Post ran an article talking about a portable music player that would have the look and feel of an iPod. Microsoft stated that they will not be manufactoring such a device, Mehdi, "I've spent time with a bunch of hardware manufacturers who will launch hardware products when we ship our service that will look and feel as good as the iPod product. And they will undoubtedly be a little bit less expensive and so head-to-head against Apple...""

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  1. 50 for the player, but probably by rd4tech · · Score: 5, Funny

    40$ one time activation fee
    5$ monthly subscribtion fee
    2$ download access fee
    15$ remote assistance fee
    5$ for a special software player with XP look ...

    1. Re:50 for the player, but probably by CountBrass · · Score: 5, Funny

      And the kicker? You have to re-activate it if you plug in a different set of headphones.

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  2. I have a distinct feeling... by InternationalCow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That this thing will be: 1. Ugly; 2. Have a clunky interface with lots of glitz and glitter; 3. Play WMA only; 4. Require XP; 5. Have limited hard drive capacity; 6. Run Pocketwindows and crash regularly; 7. Have its own host of viruses within half a year; 8. Still sell like crazy because for some reason people seem to prefer mediocre crap as long as it is cheap and runs windows Let's hope I'm wrong, I have an iPod and rather enjoy having something made by Apple be mainstream for a change :)

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    1. Re:I have a distinct feeling... by sixteenraisins · · Score: 4, Informative

      Could you please name just one player today that supports only WMA?

      I can, my old RCA Lyra. In fact, WMA is the only format it supports on a straight file copy basis (unlike MP3, which you must use software to convert it into MPY format).

      I'm not an Apple zealot at all, my iPod is the only Apple product I ever bought (I have an old Mac Color Classic which was a hand-me-down), but after trying out a handful of different players, I fell in love with the iPod.

      Oh, and I don't miss ripping CD's to WMA format, either.

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  3. not suprised by bach_m · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I thought my bullshit meter detected something. What could cost $50 and still be as good as the iPod??

    1. Re:not suprised by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 5, Funny

      What could cost $50 and still be as good as the iPod??

      A stolen iPod?

  4. Partly True. by lateralus_1024 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft reiterated that they are not backing away from their original assertion that the device has the "feel and the look of an iPod". The only notable difference is the guts are from Sony

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  5. I've discovered step 2!!! by bobbabemagnet · · Score: 4, Funny

    We've found the answer to step 2, finally!

    1.) Announce fantastic unbelievable product
    2.) Retract announcement (formerly ???)
    3.) Profit from the 2 days of free publicity

    wooooo!

  6. Look and Feel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    Microsoft developing a product that has the "look and feel" of an Apple product?

    Imagine that!

  7. $50 is too expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe at $25, people could afford an iPod clone. But $50 is ridiculous.

  8. No $50 iPod Clone From Microsoft by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Other choice quotes from Microsoft:

    - NT will support the SPARC risc platform
    - IE4 cannot be separated fron Win98
    - Palladium is for security purposes only
    - SQL Server doesn't have easter eggs

    In short, if Microsoft says they have no plan for an iPod clone, they may speak the truth, or they're still developing it. At any rate, they're probably trying hard to avoid looking like a monopoly.

  9. MSN Search and Music, Part Two # by jg21 · · Score: 5, Informative
    This post at Microsoft Monitor sets the record straight.

    Written by Joe Wilcox of Jupiter Research it starts:

    I'm a bit stunned by the press feeding frenzy set off by comments (here) Yusuf Mehdi, MSN corporate VP, made during a Wednesday speech. News report after news report claimed that Microsoft would unleash an iPod-killing music player for 50 bucks.

    The problem: That's not at all what Mr. Mehdi said.

  10. $50? by lateralus_1024 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does Clippy retrieve the playlists?

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  11. Re:One word: Baseless. by MochaMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seen the interfaces for Server 2003 and XP? They rock, plain and simple.

    Ah, you must have straggled in from winsupersite.com.

    Hold on to your toque, my friend, I have a feeling things are about to get rough for you.

  12. The Denver Post underestimated the cost... by mfivis · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...because they failed to account for human resources required by the team responsible for porting Clippy to an embedded device.

  13. Re:I hope they bring such a product out by JWSmythe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Microsoft co-branded hardware has always been top notch.

    Make sure you get your statements right. :)

    They've licensed good equipment to put the microsoft name on. They haven't manufactured anything good themselves.

    If I had a company with the budget to sell in major retail outlets, I could co-brand almost anything out there and call it my own too.

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  14. Will Job's let history repeat itself by beforewisdom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We all know the lesson Steve Job's learned the hard way by continuing to produce more expensive Macs while other people rolled out cheaper PCs.

    PCs stole the market for desktop computers away from Apple, eventhough the Apple product was technically superior and more user friendly.

    However, the price wasn't right.

    This looks like another iteration of the same situation.

    Will Apple lower its prices to compete with the iPod clones or will they foolishly lose command of a market again on the belief that superior quality will save them?

    Steve

    1. Re:Will Job's let history repeat itself by mrtrumbe · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Right. Because a lack of compatibility, software and market share in business had nothing to do with Apple's decline.

      Price is not the only reason Apple lost marketshare. In fact, it probably wasn't even the primary reason. Your comment is a gross simplification of computing history.

      Also, I find it interesting that people still equate not being as successful as MS with being a failure. Apple had some rocky times in the past. But now, they are looking pretty good. This, despite their lack of 80%+ marketshare.

      Complete world dominance is not the only metric of success.

      Taft

    2. Re:Will Job's let history repeat itself by Graymalkin · · Score: 4, Informative

      You really need to get your fact straight before spouting off this sort of crap. In 1983 Steve Jobs began to court John Sculley, the president of Pepsi, to join Apple. By April of that year Sculley was working for Apple. Even though Sculley was a good businessman it became quite obvious he knew squat about the computer industry or computers altogether. In 1985 Jobs and Sculley were arguing like crazy. Jobs was convinced sculley was going to run Apple into the ground. He planned a boardroom coup while Sculley was on a business trip but somebody told Sculley before he left and him and Jobs got into it. The board sided unanimously with Sculley and Jobs resigned that day.

      Ergo your mythical tale of Steve Jobs keeping the price of the Mac too high is far-fetched at best and outright stupid at worst. Sculley made a swath of ridiculous business descisions and was responsible for Apple's look-and-feel lawsuit loss against Microsoft. Sculley got Bill Gates to put in writing that Windows 1.0 wouldn't use any of the Mac's technologies. Gates' lawyers made sure the contract was airtight. The contract didn't mention any system besides Windows 1.0, Microsoft was contractually free to copy the Mac interface willy nilly in subsequent versions of Windows.

      People love to blame Steve Jobs for all of Apple's problems but he was entirely absent from business descisions between 1985 and 1997. In the times Jobs has been present the Mac and Apple have done pretty well. Jobs has made tons of mistakes but he isn't responsible for many of Apple's problems in the past two decades.

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  15. In other words by mcc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Like with PCs, Microsoft will allow other companies to engage in the cutthroat and unprofitable business (making and selling mp3 players and operating online music stores), then sit in the background and collect licensing fees.

    Certainly makes more sense than the previous story.

  16. Re:What I don't understand... by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nobody said Apple should be the only company left on the market. Microsoft, however, have a history of taking over markets they enter - if MS had come in with a player priced that low and marketed it properly it could've become dominant and we know from past performance that they would raise prices and increase customer lock-ins as soon as they had the market saturated.

  17. Even less partly true... by efatapo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Microsoft reiterated that they are not backing away from their original assertion that the device has the "feel and the look of an iPod"

    I know it's asking way too much to read the article, and even the teaser has it wrong. What Microsoft has said is: "I've spent time with a bunch of hardware manufacturers who will launch hardware products when we ship our service that will look and feel as good as the iPod product."

    Looking and feeling as good is a lot different then having the look and feel of an iPod. That negates all of the patent issues that everyone is complaining about.

  18. No $50 iPod Clone From Microsoft by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 5, Funny

    And in other news:

    No $2500 Diablo Clone From Toyota

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  19. Yes, they have. by grahamlee · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's called the XPod, and a thorough and unbiased review is available here.

  20. Re:That would still be $150 by anonicon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "That depends on the GB you get for $150. Keep in mind that Microsoft can get insanely expensive in the realm of handhelds and tablet PCs, and this would be no different."

    I'm guessing that unless they go with a hard drive solution in the 20-60gb range, they'll be hard pressed to match the price of the 4GB compact-flash iPod mini at $249 unless they feel like starting yet another loss-leader device (like their Xbox). Good point about MS tech in PDAs - except for the Dell Axim, most Pocket PCs are pretty expensive.

    "Still, if they *really* want to spank Apple, I'll be glad to take one for really cheap so long as it played all formats without any stupid DRM-only type restrictions."

    With Microsoft being what they are, I doubt they'll participate in any music service that doesn't have DRM, especially when you figure that the music rights holders will insist on it for fear of loss to 'theft.' Now, if I were competing with MS, I *might* shit my pants if they could get sign-off on non-DRM music from the labels since no one else is doing that besides eMusic. Combining non-DRM music with WMA would be a major selling point for people who otherwise wouldn't give a sh*t about WMA. Luckily, does anyone really see that happening?

    "I have a large CD collection that I've ripped and stored and don't want to go through that all over again because they want WMA-only."

    Well, besides iTunes and eMusic, all the other services have been stupid enough to go with really lame DRM formats that are a pain in the ass. If those others are dumb enough to do that, why wouldn't MS? Fortunately, going that route would designate them to the same 2nd-tier status that Apple's competitors exist in.

    Otherwise, I'm springing for the iPod.

    Small tip - buy Apple Care for $59 for your device, it gives you 36 months' coverage after your battery has probably died within 12-18 months. Otherwise, after your 12 months of basic coverage ends, you're looking at $99 to have Apple replace the battery. With the Apple Care, you won't have to pay to replace the battery until after 3 years expire.

    Chuck