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Rowing the Pond Again

Gudlyf writes "Anne Quéméré, a French woman who had previously rowed across the Atlantic Ocean from Spain to the West Indian island of Guadeloupe, is currently on her way to doing it again, only this time in the opposite direction. This season's challenge will take Anne 2700 nautical miles, from Chatham, Cape Cod (USA) to Brittany (France), her native land. She hopes to make it in less than 90 days. Is it just me, or does the giant fish on her boat scream 'shark bait' to you?"

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  1. Uh, no... by Gnea · · Score: 2, Informative

    sharks are attracted to blood, they cannot 'see' a fish like that on the side of a boat.

    1. Re:Uh, no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually sharks CAN see prey... that is why they often mistake divers and surfers in dark wetsuits for seals. They do have bad eyesight but can certainly see and identify prey.

    2. Re:Uh, no... by nomadic · · Score: 2, Informative

      They're attracted to shapes too, which is why surfers get hit all the time. But you're right, the shark probably won't see the painted fish.

    3. Re:Uh, no... by Hao+Wu · · Score: 3, Funny
      They're attracted to shapes too, which is why surfers get hit all the time. But you're right, the shark probably won't see the painted fish.

      Besides, it is Hollywood myth that shark can be dangerous. You may think that shark could mistake swimmer for baby seal, or find your fagile torso to be a tasty meal for the shark. You may also think your weak chemoelectric field in your muscle and nerve could be detected, and shark would take big bite out of you before figures out you are not good for food for it.

      This is all giant myth. Shark can make good friendship and companion for any man, woman, or youung child who swim in water's ocean.

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    4. Re:Uh, no... by Dhalka226 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You mean that the 55 unprovoked shark attacks in 2003 (source) weren't dangerous?

    5. Re:Uh, no... by nacturation · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shark can make good friendship and companion for any man, woman, or youung child who swim in water's ocean.

      Yes, just last month I took my eight year old niece to the aquarium and dropped her into the great white shark tank. You should have seen the wonderful fun playing around they both did. You'd think my niece would have been tired swimming after the shark for half an hour, but you shouldn't underestimate the determination of a child who wants her right leg back.

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    6. Re:Uh, no... by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Somehow, compared to the 32,480 deaths in MVAs (car/SUV/truck crashes), 55 shark attacks just doesn't seem very significant (source). The fact is, compared to the driving we do every day, Sharks aren't particularly dangerous.

    7. Re:Uh, no... by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Umm...right. Would you remind repeating that to the family of the woman killed by the Great White not 5 miles from where I live? Giant myth my ass. Some things have been exaggerated, yes, but understating the danger can be just as bad, for both humans and sharks."

      It's a giant myth because, of the millions of people who could potentially interact with Sharks each year, there are few reported incidents (55 in 2003).

      You could make the statement:

      "Umm...right. Would you remind repeating that to the family of the woman killed by TWA 800 5 miles from where I live? Giant myth my ass. Some things have been exaggerated, yes, but understating the danger can be just as bad."

      The fact that you know someone who has died in an air crash *does not* make air travel unsafe. The fact is, there really isn't any risk to understimate. The risk is, quite frankly, statistically insignifigant. That's like saying that you should "consider the risk" before eating food because people die from foodborne illness each year (9,000 in the USA alone - 180 times greater than Shark-related deaths).

      We can make a sob story out of anything, but the fact is that the only way to assess the risk of an activity is to look at statistics. The statistics say that the danger is minimal. There's nothing to understimate because there is virtually no danger whatsoever.

    8. Re:Uh, no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny


      Actually, those shark attacks were really attacks on Amercia!!

      Better add shark to the list of terror suspects!

    9. Re:Uh, no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      32,480 highway deaths vs. 55 shark attacks? How "significant" _are_ the shark attacks? It appears that in Florida the shark attacks actually _are_ significant - bear with me while I do some ball-park estimating.

      Rough Facts:
      (1) There are approximately 16 million people in Florida.
      (2) 31 of the 55 shark attacks were in florida (see grandparent post).
      (3) In 2002 there were 3132 highway deaths in Florida. (source)
      (4)The average american adult spends 101 minutes per day driving.(source)
      (5)The average american spends 19 minutes per day engaged in "leisure exercise.(source)
      *for our purposes, lets pretend that (4) and (5) apply to the population of Florida as well.

      Approximations/Guesses:
      Let's pretend that in Florida 5% of the leisure exercise that goes on is swimming, and that a 20% of that swimming is done in the ocean as opposed to pools, lakes, etc.
      Assumptions:
      (6) 1/20 of all leisure exercise in Florida is swimming.
      (7) 1/5 of all swimming is done in the ocean (shark territory).

      With a Little Algebra,
      Using (1),(3), and (4),
      There are about 5.3e-9 (5.3*10^-9) deaths per driving minute in Florida. Or inversely 188 million minutes of driving time occur per highway death.

      Using (1),(2),(5),(6), and (7),
      There are about 2.8e-08 shark attacks per ocean-swimming minute. Or inversely 36 million minutes of ocean-swimming time occur per shark attack.

      But wait! That means per minute of activity, in Florida, you are more likely to be attacked by a shark than die in a highway accident, if the facts, assumptions, and generalizations used are correct.

      Alright so that sounds impossible - let's change our guesses. What if 20% of all leisure exercise is swimming (a ridiculously high estimate), and what if a full 1/2 of all swimming is done in the ocean. Then by the same calculations there are 2.8e-9 deaths per ocean-swimming minute. Even with these very high estimates the per-minute chances of shark attack are within a single order of magnitude to highway deaths.

      Yes, I have made some unsupported generalizations and some unsupported guesses, but even so I think it is safe to say that in florida the statistics are so "lopsided" (32,480 highway deaths vs. 31 shark attacks) not because swimming is any less dangerous than driving (in terms of shark attacks vs. fatal accidents), but because people just drive a whole lot more than they swim.

    10. Re:Uh, no... by Asic+Eng · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Hmmm - I think the low number of shark-related incidents means that sharks attacks are not a problem. On it's own however it says relatively little about whether encountering sharks is risky or not, you'd also have to analyze how often people get into situations where they *could* be attacked by sharks.

      If you don't consider that, then eating highly radioactive material will seem like a safe activity - just because nobody does that. In reality of course, doing that would be quite risky.

      Looking at the US, very large numbers of people are involved with cars on a daily basis, only a small percentage go swimming in the ocean every day. How useful is it really to know that there were no shark-related incidents in Minnesota this year?

    11. Re:Uh, no... by jadenyk · · Score: 2
      Actually, when I lived in Florida I saw a great news story about this. There was a study done and it turns out that you were more likely to be killed by a cocanut landing on your head than you were to be killed by a shark.

      Also, the study continued to say that at any given time 1 in 20 bathers is within 5 feet of a shark, most without even realizing it.

      Given that information, I'm still not gonna intentionally swim with an animal that is much bigger and stronger than I am, and has several rows of teeth.

    12. Re:Uh, no... by funkdid · · Score: 2, Funny
      I'm reminded of the Daily Show episode where they did the bit on "The Summer of the Shark". Here's their list of things that kill far more people a year then sharks:

      Coconuts

      Stairs

      Bees

      Ladders

      Pruning your hedges

      Sunburn

      Lightning

      Being bitten by a squirrel In spite of this, I freak the hell out when I see a shark in the water.

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  2. Not shark bait by Lehk228 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But probably death-from-exposure/hypothermia bait.

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  3. Going back to her homeland... by hiro_takahama · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wouldn't it have just been easier to buy an airline ticket?

    I'm all for exercise and all but geeze!

    1. Re:Going back to her homeland... by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Wouldn't it have just been easier to buy an airline ticket?"

      It probably takes less time to row back than going through airline security...

  4. Of course she is doing it again... by Karpe · · Score: 5, Funny

    She has to get back, doesn't she?

    If she had the money to get a plane ticket, she wouldn't have made it the first time.

  5. Bah! by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Funny

    In my day we had to kayak through the Pacific just to buy some foie gras... upstream BOTH WAYS.

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  6. A bit much by Zeebs · · Score: 3, Funny

    We have to do something about the oil companies, this poor women obviously can't afford gas either. Greedy bastards!

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  7. obligatory Finding Nemo reference by valmont · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shark-Bait HOO-HAH-HAH

  8. More Images by nmb3000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Got curious and browsed that images (images directory. Some odd stuff, but there's also a small map showing (at least vaguely) the intended journey.

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  9. ok, let's get it all out of trhe way at once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A. i dont even have a boat you insensitive clod
    B. all your oars are belong to us
    C. in soviet russia the boat rows you
    D.
    1. row row row your boat
    2. do it again
    3. ???
    4. profit!!
    E. D'OH!

    There, I think that about covers it :)

    1. Re:ok, let's get it all out of trhe way at once by Rudisaurus · · Score: 3, Funny

      I, for one, welcome our new incredibly well-muscled female rowing overlords!

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    2. Re:ok, let's get it all out of trhe way at once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Get with the times, man! If she was using JBOSS, she would never have gone crazy and thought rowing across the atlantic was a good idea. Instead she could have optimized her use of open source middleware products and customized her architectures and applications for greater performance and efficiency! She would soon have been a multi-millionaire! Instead, now that she's here she has to row back. She definitely should have been using JBOSS. I'm not an employee of JBOSS, so you can trust me. JBOSS doesn't even have employees, I swear!

  10. Re:Nerdly? by The+Slashdotted · · Score: 5, Informative

    Geek n.
    A person regarded as foolish, inept, or clumsy.
    A person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept.

    But then it could also be:
    A carnival performer whose show consists of bizarre acts, such as biting the head off a live chicken.
    I mean how many times do you see "sex with a mare" around here??

  11. Her website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's her website. It's entirely in French, but you can see pictures of her and the boat on the photo page.

    1. Re:Her website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      Did you try the British flag?

      English Journal

  12. The master of impracticality by JonLatane · · Score: 2, Funny

    And as she does this, a computer aboard the boat will be running an OpenGL application in PHP. If she succeeds, she will break world impracticality records.

  13. Sharks are not stupid... by Lobsang · · Score: 4, Funny

    Would you have the balls to attack a woman with the arms to row across the Atlantic? I wouldn't...

  14. Re:Nerdly? by erucsbo · · Score: 2, Funny

    High latency, low bandwidth, low reliability, single packet, connectionless protocol. RFC 1149 spawned another RFC (2549) and had two implementations to take it out of just a draft version, so why not this.
    Maybe she's hoping that the publicity will encourage another lunat^H^H^H rower to do likewise. (or else she's on the SYN-ACK leg of her first attempt).
    I'm sure that there are more nerdly connections we can make when we have too much time on our hands :-)

  15. Re:Just like mountain climbing.... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Similarly, the rest of the planet cannot understand the mind-numbing singlemindedness needed to slog through the hell that is a Gentoo installation.

    Different strokes...

  16. around the world in 80 days by mattdm · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Geeks like stuff like this -- I remember being intrigued by around-the-world ballooning attempts and so on in National Geographic when I was a child.

    Plus, there's all sorts of technology involved -- GPS, satellite phone, and the materials and construction of the boat itself.

    But what it really comes down to is clearly illustrated in this bit from the article:
    "Do you need to be rescued," he asked.

    "No, I'm rowing across the ocean," she replied.
    Now if that's not geeky, I dunno what is.
  17. Re:Nerdly? by p4ul13 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    She's navigating mainly by GPS

    She has a custom made boat (physics, specialized transportation design)

    She expects to lose 30 pounds (lots of nerds need to lose weight / Physical effects of long term physical stress is a good topic of scientific discussion)

    Quit flapping your bitching hole.

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  18. Re:Nerdly? by NoData · · Score: 3, Funny

    Exactly. This is, like, all athletic and--how you say?--"outsidish?" no, no. i mean, "out of the doors?" oh yes, "outdoorsy." i do not know of this out of the doors activities of which they write...what with the..the...the sweating. And the exerting.

    (and before some pumped up jock wannabe tries to make me seriously believe a true nerd can also be mr. macho athlete guy, lemme say a) we're all very proud of you and b) please go crow on some less nerdly site. you are far too cool for us.)

  19. In Other News... by k4_pacific · · Score: 5, Funny

    The US Coast Gaurd announced today that they picked up a determined French refugee in a rowboat off the coast of Massachusetts. She has been taken to an undisclosed location for indefinite detention.

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  20. Re:Just like mountain climbing.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's about solitude and one-ness with nature as well as accomplishing a goal some would call impossible. She will be by herself exposed to the elements for ~90 days. That's a lot of time for deep thought amidst the hard work of rowing. I'm sure life takes on a new perspective of meaning after an epic journey like that. I cannot claim to have the same drive.

  21. Just imagine... by LightningBolt! · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just imagine a Bay-o-watch cluster of these...

    I'm here all week, folks.

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  22. Re:Just like mountain climbing.... by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hear she used to be a practicing MCSE... maybe there's some explaination to be found in that.

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  23. Damn, this is cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Man, I wish I had the balls to do this. Boats are so cool. Well, boats without motors, anyway. In fact, things built by people with their own hands designed to do something crazy are cool in general. I'd love to build my own sailboat and sail from the southern tip of Japan to the Philippines. That's not even a huge distance, and I'm still too chicken to do it... storms scare me.

    As for all you idiots making "What's this doing on Slashdot?" comments, what the hell? You guys are worse than those stupid jocks in HS who used to try to pigeonhole us into the glasses-wearing computer nerd category. Worse because you're doing it to yourselves. People aren't two-dimensional (I mean this figuratively, smart ass) and this includes even you. Lots of nerds like sports. It's just that we often like non-standard ones, like martial arts, fencing, bowling, sailing, whatever. But even if it were some "lame" sport like baseball or football, a true geek could find a way to make it geeky. That you can't speaks to your lack of imagination, nothing else.

    Thank you, drive through.

    1. Re:Damn, this is cool by theNeophile · · Score: 2, Funny
      People aren't two-dimensional (I mean this figuratively, smart ass)

      You mean... we are two-dimensional literally?

  24. There'll be more of this before we're done by Howzer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This kind of intensely personal extreme sport is a growing trend, and we're going to see a lot more of it in coming years.

    I happen to think it's a fantastic thing.

    There's no real "why" of why anyone would willingly climb Everest, go to Antarctica, walk across a desert, play any contact sport, play golf, walk up the stairs to the office and not take the elevator.

    All of those things are more prone to injury, take longer, are a "waste" of time. But none of that is the point. All of those things are terrific fun - even walking up the stairs gives you a nice glow just before you hit the airconditioning for 8 hours.

    Rowing across the Atlantic Ocean? Imagine the isolation, the memories, the weather you'd see, the sense of having conquered yourself you would feel for the rest of your life.

    She's not hurting anyone or anything. And she may actually make observations worth listening to.

    My response? Bravo!

    1. Re:There'll be more of this before we're done by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Frankly I dont feel the same way. Okay they are not hurting anyone but if we as a society have reached the point of admiring people for merely not hurting anyone we are in trouble.

      There is a lot of pain and suffering in this world, and there a lot of things people can do to help their fellow humans. Of course I am not saying that everyone is obligated to help others, if one wants to go into pointless stunts, it is their choice.

      But they will not get my admiration. I save that for worthy causes, not merely difficult ones.

    2. Re:There'll be more of this before we're done by Queer+Boy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      walk up the stairs to the office and not take the elevator

      Actually, unless you are going up quite a few flights, it's faster to walk the stairs than ride an elevator, especially if it's a busy building. Think about it.

      The problem I see in most buildings is that the stairwells are not conveniently located to the elevator (nor convenient to anywhere for that matter). There's a few parking garages near where I live that the stairwells wrap around the elevator shaft. This makes it easier for access to the shaft (there's a few "doors" to it on the well) and it makes it easier to locate the stairs in an emergency.

      I wish more buildings were built this way.

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    3. Re:There'll be more of this before we're done by zx75 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      People admire her because it is an amazing feat of human stamina. 'Stunts' like this show us that as humans, we can accomplish things thought to be impossible, or beyond our ability to endure. That is what makes it admirable, not the fact she isn't hurting anyone and doing this for herself. It helps inspire us to push the limits, do things that have never been done before and as a result advance ourselves as a species. Just because she has chosen to accomplish a physical feat instead of a mental innovation, does not make it any less of an accomplishment than it is. We do still live in a physical world, and physical ability is still necessary for our survival. We have not yet advanced so far that we can live by brains alone, though many of us do.

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  25. Vector analysis by wombatmobile · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...is currently on her way to doing it again, only this time in the opposite direction.

    Net effect is zero.

    Which makes her even with all of us who didn't row at all.

  26. yea? well she'll take the skin off your snake, son by waspleg · · Score: 4, Funny

    it'd be like getting a handjob from popeye

    think about it

  27. Re:Meanwhile, she will install Linux by xoran99 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ok, and she is doing all this while reformatting her Windows box, and replacing it with the latest Linux distro ? or ... What is this doing on Slashdot ? :P

    This is the perfect opportunity to compile Gentoo!

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  28. Re:Daughter. by kfg · · Score: 2

    A man was killed doing this in 2000

    Any number of men, and women too, died on their way to work this morning. Commuting is dangerous.

    My dad died when I was one year old, while simply tending a shop.

    Shit happens, so do what, ummmm, rows your boat.

    KFG

  29. Anne Quéméré = Anchor Mer (Sea) eh? by erucsbo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    no wonder she's in love with the ocean.
    AnneQue sounds like Anchor.
    Mer = Sea in french.
    I s'pose it is one way to beat the queues at the airport though.

  30. Just curious.. by ilyag · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How does she sleep?

    Where does she keep her food? (90 days of food in this tiny canoe?)

    What if there is a storm? (Good weather guaranteed? A ship following her just in case?)

  31. geez... by jpellino · · Score: 2, Interesting

    on the wrong day, just getting out of Chatham could be the worst part of the trip. Weatherwise, that is - and the bars (the ones in the water, that is - though around town there' s a bumper sticker that reads "Chatham - a quaint drinking village with a fishing problem.")

    Fog blows up over the barrier beach outside of Stage Harbor so thick and fast you'd swear there's a forest fire raging on the other side of the dune - and crossing Stage Harbor on a busy day with a sea kayak is like crossing I-95 on foot in rush hour.

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  32. Re:Anne Quéméré = Anchor Mer (Sea) by Knos · · Score: 2, Informative

    Brittany has a specific language which is in most part unrelated to french.

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  33. What's a worthy cause? by amcox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is exploring the limits of the human body and mind not a worthy cause? Feats of physical and emotional endurance can inspire, educate, and enrich people's lives. Only considering acts which help people relieve pain "worthy" is an awfully negative outlook on life. I say celebrate the accomplishments of our fellow humans, silly or not.

  34. Another French woman crossing oceans on her own.. by n1ckmrt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Really need to mention Raphaela Legouvella here as she recently arived in Tahiti on a windsufer. She already crossed the atlantic back in 2000. http://www.raphaela-legouvello.com/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3236899.st m As to whether this should be on /. windsurfing seems a more apropriate geek sport to me than rowing (obvoulsy I'm biased on this). Hi tech construction, always pushing the speed records, and it's 95% technique and only 5% fitness. Her windsurfer looks biger than your average sailing boat but it was built with the help of the european space agency.

  35. Giant Rapala by bhima · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The article is right!

    The "row boat" looks like a giant rapala lure!

    Who in their right mind would row anywhere with that thing?

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  36. Why Newsworthy? by mdielmann · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I didn't RTFA (yeah, I've been here a while), but what's so surprising about a French woman doing it again?

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  37. Re:Anne Quéméré = Anchor Mer (Sea) by evilandi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Offtopic or Interesting? You decide... :-)

    Knos: Brittany has a specific language which is in most part unrelated to french.

    ...but is, strangely, closely related to Welsh and other British Gaelic languages.

    I know this because my uncle, who is a Welsh speaker, struck up a conversation with what he thought was a fellow Welshman in Brittany. Only half an hour into chatting (and, to be fair, drinking), did he click that the gentleman was in fact a local.

    Oh, and interesting fact number two: Brittany is the reason why the largest UK island is called Great Britain- because there is a Little Britain (Brittany) in France. At one point a line of regional kings [1] claimed soverignty over all the Britons (Britons being the Gaelic-speaking peoples of France, Ireland and the UK).

    [1] You have to remember that kings were little more than tribal leaders until recent centuries. The word "king" conjures up images of gold and palaces, when in fact for most of Northern European history, kings were the ones who had slightly larger mud huts and slightly warmer animal furs.

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  38. The First by btharris · · Score: 2, Informative
    Anne Quemere was not the first woman to row across the Atlantic. The first woman (and first American) was Tori Murden in the American Pearl back in 1999:

    http://www.adept.net/AmericanPearl/

    I think she went the westward direction (Canaries to Carribean) following ocean currents. It was an interesting online event since you could monitor GPS data on the website and she periodically posted messages and photos via satellite. She is now climbing Denali (Mt. McKinley).

  39. Pics by Xoo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here are some more pics of her canoe and a pic of her too :-)

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  40. Some better images here by heretic · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's an image of her actually rowing the beast , which puts the contraption in human perspective.

  41. Lies, Damned Lies, and Stats... by festers · · Score: 2, Informative

    One other thing to keep in mind, which makes shark statics in FL kinda pointless: Any time a shark is involved it has to be counted as an "attack", regardless of how minor the incident was. Scratches and bruises are all considered attacks. So, for example, in 2001 there were 37 shark attacks in FL, but only one was fatal.

    I think I'd be more worried about buckling up.

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