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Sony To Ship Enhanced PSX Console/DVR Combo
bluethundr writes "The Register has posted a story indicating that Sony will ship the new PSX models on July 1 (Japan first, Europe to follow, then - eventually released to us Yanks?) following the company's move to suspend production of the original model of PlayStation 2/digital video recorder hybrid, earlier this year. Apparently: 'The new models, the DESR-5100 and DESR-7100, offer the same storage capacity - 160GB and 250GB, respectively - as their predecessors, the DESR-5000 and DESR- 7000. What's changed is the introduction of a better graphical user interface and the ability to add DVD-style menus to content copied from the unit's hard drive to a DVD-R, DVD-RW or DVD+RW disc.' Sony also appears to have added a range of extra video recording modes to maximise the amount of programming that can be stored on the PSX's hard drive."
I just don't see it as being something that I would spend that much money on. $676 for the 160GB and $868 for the 200GB model... That seems like an awful lot of money for a device that doesn't look "sexy", doesn't do anything extraordinary over any other device of its kind, and is basically just a piece of bundled hardware.
In a recent story (about the PSX's possible demise) someone noted that it was pretty expensive for something you could do for about $350 unbundled.
I guess the reason that they are releasing it to Japan and then England before us Yanks is because most cable providers already offer PVRs, we have TiVO, we have rolled out our own based on various software packages (both OSS and proprietary), or we just don't care.
I'll pass for now... Maybe if it was bundled with the PS3 it would be more attractive.
And that was the price. Hopefully they've re-built this with more standardized and lower costing components so us regular folks don't need to shell out 700 dollars.
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One of the major selling points of the original PS2 was that DVD players were still fairly expensive, but gaining popularity. For the price of a nice DVD player, you could get that and much more. I don't see that happening with the PSX, but only time will tell.
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Huh? Can you?
If not I don't want one. What's the point of a DVD-R if I can't play the PS2 games I use it to copy, that is legitimately backup for educational purposes!
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Don't be confused by the name PSX. Many people took to calling the original Playstation the PSX, but that was not an official name for the console. This new PS2 supermachine is officially known as the PSX. It's a little confusing, but what can you do?
Will the future PSX still run Linux?
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Hopefully once the PSX comes out the price of PS2 games will drop (but probably not before hell freezes over however). One can hope anyway. Or will there be no PSX-only-compatible games for quite some time?
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Almost $900 for a PVR / Playstation 2? That's a bit pricey for a gaming console which i'm sure will be (already is?) obsolete.
Acronym time : DIY PVR IMO. FU PS2/PVR DRM.
Blame the media for it. When Playstation first came out it was code named Playstation X. But when finally released, they dropped the X to just have the Playstation name. However, the media decided to keep the X moniker and made it PSX, PSX2, etc... Soo.. Blame the Media... oh.. and Canada j/k.
Hmmm.
The reason that it is coming to us yanks last is that Sony is still in a pretty tight race with X-Box here in the states. That is not true in Japan and I'm pretty sure that is also not true in Europe. I can the the fancy system coming out here, but I can't see it replacing the original system since Sony needs to have a (recently reduced) $150 model to remain competitive.
I saw the original model in Akihabara two months ago. They seemed to be all the rage in Japan. However, I had difficulty convincing myself that it would have mass appeal in America with such a large price tag. I would think most people who want a PS2 probably own one already. For that matter, early adopters likely have a DVR/Tivo already anyways. I guess I'd like to know exactly who they are marketing this too.
Cool device, but no market.
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Why is this thing even coming out in any market outside of Japan? Japan I can understand, since it is very much a gadget crazy society, and the idea of a "super" PS2 appeals to the same people who would sell their original PS2 to buy a hot pink model.
But Europe and America...I just don't see anyone wanting to buy that. You can buy a computer for that much that can do so much more. It's a product that fits an extremely small niche of a niche of a niche, the people who are wealthy enough to spend well above the cost of a plain Jane system (1st niche) who would buy another system when they already own one as an "upgrade" (2nd niche) of a video game system (3rd niche, albeit an ever-growing one).
Sony should be spending their money on R&D to shrink the PSP and extend battery life, not creating more proprietary media and hardware.
But then again, this should be expected from a company that if they held complete market dominance would force everyone to use (and of course, pay royalties) for their design specs.
The newest example of that being the UMD for the PSP, but another classic example is them and Phillips trying to strongarm the rights they had with the CD by starting that whole DVD+-R debacle.
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Definitely more than I would pay... but remember that space is more of a commodity in Japan than here in the states.
I don't know where these memes get started but yes, Japanese houses are small, but they're not so cramped for space that an unbundled PS2 and DVD player or whatever would have them coming out the windows.
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PS2 has sold like 71 million units, Gamecube 16M and Xbox in 3rd with 15M.
It's far from a tight race.
It is a bit of a closer race in software sold, but these units will not lead to additional software sales.
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I for one welcome our new Sony PVR Console overlords!
...a swing and a miss.
Being that the laser in Sony's PS2 is so weak I've seen consoles less than 1 year old worn out, is there any chance this device will have a laser that justifies the pricetag?
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I want a box that I can load all CDs, DVDs, PS1 discs, PS2 discs, and PS3 discs. They could make a 200, and a 300 disc model. It should have .5 - 1 TB. It should automatically rip a CD, convert it to mpg to format of my choice name all tracks and auto organise the CD collection. It should give full PVR functions. It should cache frequently played DVDs to reduce wear and tear on the disc. It should have built-in RAID 5 with hotswap able drives that are as easy to change as VHS tapes. It should cost less than a used car.
Seriously. Everyone who wants a ps2 has one at this point. Noone wants to re-buy another ps2.
I dont see this being a big seller in the US at all
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That's a stereotype, not a meme. Well I'm at it, I'll start a new 'meme'. Only idiots think of things in terms of memes. Get out of the house fatso.
The MTBF of a PS2 is only about 3 years though. Anyone who bought a PS2 in the first year of release has probably had theirs break already, if not it will break soon. Then they'll need a new one, or a PSX.
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1. Sell usb/cat5 networkable video encode/decode box for $199.00 usd
2. Sell networkable dvd drive for $50-$75
3. Sell networkable 120gb hard disk for $75
4. Sell tv tuner with timer, scheduler, etc for $50
5. Produce all components for 1 year, then let other companies sell everything except the tuner and video encode/decode box after that.
6. Introduce networkable tv, audio components next year
What they need to do is concentrate on getting the PS3 out instead of trying to milk whats left of the market dry. Most hardcore gamers got the ps2 when it came out and when the graphics started to look dated switched to the Xbox. Quente
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Since there is a Linux upgrade kit ($99) for the PSX, will the EPSX also be Linux capable?
This would make a great all-in-one platform for Freevo or MythTV.
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Here's the updated screenshot of the updated UI in the PSX. Seems to have a transparent menus over the TV show you're watching, and these screens show the customizable backgrounds for the menus.
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ScreenshotPSX Official Site(in Japanese)
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If I didn't already own a ps2, I might be willing to pay $600 for the combo presented here. Sure, I could build a pvr myself, but FROM SCRATCH, getting one that would be able to handle pvr duties well and burn dvds would cost at least $600 plus my time.
What I really want to know is if I would be able to access the files across a network. Ps2 has the ethernet adapter you can buy, so it seems like a reasonable idea, but I imagine there's tons of reasons why sony might not want to add that capability.
Since it's relevant and I haven't had time to hit google yet to research it myself, I'm just curious if there's any other products out right now that are a pvr, can burn dvds, and are accessible across the network. Heck, any two of those are cool in my opinion if they're decently priced.
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LOL! That is some funny shit. They sell something like 1 million ps2's a month. Hardware sales just spiked up big time since they just cut the price to $149.
It's a neat device, but like almost all sony products you pay a premium to have the letters S-O-N-Y emblazoned on the case. It's annoying, but I put up with it, because they do offer innovations and impressive industrial design they usually offer. Almost always aesthetically pleasing and nice technology. A rare combination from a manufacturer I find.
I also think that while I truly enjoy having a "multicultural computing environment at home" (Debian/Apache/Php/Perl/MySQL/Sendmail, WinXP/Server2003/Exchange, Mac OS-X -server and client, Novell, and yes even Amiga and NeXT for nostalgic purposes) having a "unified industrial design philosphy" in the components in my entertainment center is just a plain old good idea. All of the components integrate seemlessly, no muss, no fuss. They just talk to each other on equal terms and that's great.
But, as I mentioned the look of their equipment is usually beautiful and melds nicely with my apartment's metropolitan look. Always assume with Sony equipment, you'll run into a premium price tag. One real problem with that is that they both ACHIEVE spectacularly and FAIL just as spectacularly. And their Wega TV's are just a jaw dropper to behold.
But, for the Sonyphilic, it may be useful to see my earlier rant on how bad their DVD carousel changers are. They're still cool to have (like having a personal TV station, I tell people), but mine broke on the stroke of midnight on the day its warranty expired. I called their support and they said "Oh yeah! We know about the mechanisms in those machines. They're faulty. But wer're going to have to pop you for $150 for repair since you're out of warranty". One thing I heartily recommend if you are buying sony entertainment products for your home is to GET THE STORE WARRANTY that BestBuy and places like it usually try to pressure sell you into.
I normally avoid those ripoff store warranties like the PLAGUE and on a couple of occasions stormed out of the store angry when the sales guy (and then his MANAGER) just wouldn't SHUT THE FUCK UP about it. These were times when I walked into the story feeling excited about the equipment I'd be buying (car stereos and what not, that stuff I go higher end than Sony). But Sony's support staffs are so universally abysmal, that when the sales guy utters the first syllable about their ripoff warranties I just say: SOLD! So, please say no more before I have to belt you in the mouth! I figure I'm already getting ripped to enhance the 'metroplitan look' of my home, why not go the extra mile so I can save myself the temptation of crawling through the phone lines to strangle a Sony support rep!
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This just in!
Multibillion dollar corporations able to walk AND chew gum at the same time!
Something tells me that they see an opportunity to make money and get their feet wet in the 'all-in-one' entertainment center that is going to be popping up all over in the coming years.
They can't just focus more on the PS3 and release it. It's not that simple. The Cell Processor goes way way beyond just the PS3. I don't think they'd enjoy rushing it just to make one game console.
Does it run Linux like Microsoft's gaming console?!
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I frankly, don't know what people do to their video game consoles that they break so easily. For chrissakes - my Atari 2600 still works, as does my LaserActive, TubroGrafx, DC, N64...
Clearly, I just have a knack of picking special, non-problematic units.
and you dont smoke, have kids, or pets. (?)
Or you just care about your stuff. Many people are very careless.
My dad knocked over my ps2 when it was on its verticle stand about 2 mins after I said "be careful around the ps2. thats the wierd monolith thing sitting on my pc."
It works now, but the player 1 controller port is sometimes twitchy, and i need to wiggle it to work.
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If you have a $10,000 plasma you already have a much nicer DVD player than the one in this box...
I know some people that have equipment like this plasma that are just a step away from living IN a box - they buy somethiung like a big expensive display and then hook a $40 DVD player to it!
People know that "big == good", but the rest of the stuff (like progressive scan, which even the $40 players support now anyway) is a lot more of a mystery. So they feel free to ignore that part - except possibly hooking the $40 player up with Monster cables of course.
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You managed to pick figures for the one moment in history where there was a disparity between the XBox and PS2 price (as the article notes)- the PS2 price has come down as well now. It remains to be seen if the sales jump was more than a blip and how much PS2 sales rise after a similar price drop.
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"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Does this "new" PSX mean that the original machine was rushed to market for the sake of getting it on shelves? Come on Mike Hawk, why aren't you jumping on this one?
I dont see how Sony is so far ahead of MS in that respect. Put a $50 mod chip and a $150 250 gig HD in your xbox and you have the same damn thing aside from the ability to burn dvd's. Plus the mod'd xbox can stream media of any type over a network to a TV or stereo, it can emulate older consoles/arcades, and it can play xbox games more value for the $ right there, if i wanna burn something that was on my xbox i could always just stream it to my PC, something the PSX cant do. Total Cost $350
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That's fine, but it still lacks the PSX's ability to record over-the-air and satellite television programs. For that, you'd need a $250+ TiVo or a $100 capture card (and a computer to put it in).
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...and it should fit in my pocket.
Anyhow: That is my point exactly. Why are people so careless with their stuff? I know my GameCube costs half as much now as when I bought it at launch, but, to me, that is still a $200 (plus the value of 22 games) investment. I know I can pick up an Atari 2600 for dirt cheap (unless I want a spiffy, hacked s-video one for $100), but I still make sure that it stays clean.
Dunno. Maybe it's just me.
I want one. I want one now. As a gamer who has blown countless thousands of dollars over the years building PC gaming Uberboxen, only to collapse in shuddering tears at seeing the $200 PS2's graphics, controls, and game titles... I want one now!
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But Sony's designers are TOP NOTCH. Their appliances and everything else are just beautiful. Almost worth buying just because they look great in the living room.
If I were Sony, I'd want to make sure that the PS3 was a killer product that stuffed Microsoft so far that they decide to drop XBox entirely. Now maybe the PSX isn't a PS3, but maybe it's a platform for testing out alot of what might be delivered as features in a future PS3. If you can bring to market a radical new gaming machine based on the 'best selling PS2' with the 'proven features' and 'easy to use interface of the PSX' then Sony really have a winner on their hands.
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Well currently they are still winning w/their PS2 console.
"We listen to our players," Bill White, a Nintendo executive, told the press in 1989, "They tell us they are extremely happy with the existing system and are totally involved with the games. We haven't maxed out our 8-bit system yet." This attitude would leave Nintendo in the dust of the coming 16-bit revolution.
Of course, Nintendo wasn't hurt long term by their hestiation to innovate, but NEC got a good few months of sales out of their TurboGraphix-16 as a result, and even Sega's Genesis beat the Super Nintendo to the shelves... Ultimately, brand name recognition wins out though, and Sony has that right now if they have anything at all.
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They should have this player be able to play xVid and DiVX files. I would then consider buying it as those features would make it a true media machine.
hahaha!! you lose karma for being an ignorant american. look outside your countries borders and expand you mind, the USA is not the world
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