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War Kayaking

ptorrone writes "As the summer approaches, we crawl out of our protective wired covered lairs to sometimes partake in outdoor activity. Last weekend, we went kayaking around Lake Union in Seattle, WA and of course, we couldn't help but bring along a lot of equipment and decided we'd hunt for open wireless spots, this friends- was "War Kayaking" we found a ton, charted it with GPS, Wifi finders and we'll show you how we did it for this week's HOW-TO Tuesday. We also shot a video in the kayak, be sure to check that out too."

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  1. Careful by qualico · · Score: 3, Funny

    This could become an Olympic Sport!

    1. Re:Careful by caswelmo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or at least an interesting way to electrocute yourself!

  2. War "Your Favorite Activity Here" by dustinbarbour · · Score: 5, Funny

    War Hiking
    War SCUBA Diving
    War Mountain Biking
    War Snowboarding
    War Golfing
    War Rock CLimbing
    ...

    1. Re:War "Your Favorite Activity Here" by Paulrothrock · · Score: 5, Funny
      War mastu...

      Nah, too easy.

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    2. Re:War "Your Favorite Activity Here" by k4_pacific · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, with Diebold, you could have War Voting.

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    3. Re:War "Your Favorite Activity Here" by tktk · · Score: 4, Funny
      Exactly...I'm expecting the pilot from SpaceShipOne to write about War RocketPlaning.

      All this War [Blank] is getting old.

    4. Re:War "Your Favorite Activity Here" by velo_mike · · Score: 2, Interesting
      <extreme war ...>

      I already haul way too much crap doing these things, with photo gear my day pack is >25 lbs and I'm afraid to weigh the 7 day pack or think about how much the trad rack and ropes add. There's no f*** way I want to drag along more delicate, battery dependant gear. OTOH, the geek in me wonders how many Colorado 14'ers can I surf from... Thanks, you've planted the seed...

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    5. Re:War "Your Favorite Activity Here" by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 3, Funny

      No kidding....I can read it now.... 'About the time I hit 95 km altitude, I fired up my favorite sniffer program and found 30,000 APs in Southern Cal ALONE, not to mention Las Vegas, Nevada, & Albuquerque(sp), New Mexico. Was kinda hard keeping the pringles can pointed at a precise area due to my velocity....'

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    6. Re:War "Your Favorite Activity Here" by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2, Funny
      I went War Spelunking last weekend and found a hot spot. Unfortunately, the hotspot was superheated steam, so I no longer have a face to speak of.

      At least the Mormons who were War Witnessing this neighborhood last week haven't returned.

      Oh! I did also have a chance to try War Ambulancing and War Medi-coptering! And you haven't lived 'till you've War ER'd or War IC'd!

      Gotta Go - I'm late to my appointment for War Physical Therapy.

    7. Re:War "Your Favorite Activity Here" by identity0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forgot the best one -

      War Warring!

      Hop on a Blackhawk in the Green Zone, fly around Baghdad looking for APs! If you spot one, forget the chalk - just mark the spot with your chaingun!

  3. War-*ing by garcia · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow, you mean you can use a GPS on a Kayak? No way! I am going to start War-biking, War-wirewalking, War-firewalking, War-streetwalking, War-drinking, War-fucking (find all those important porn stores in seedy areas of downtown after War-streetwalking and War-drinking of course), War-Slashdotting (making a page load so slow because even though it shows the same thing as War-flying or War-driving people see "check out the video of us making you sea sick" and then flock to it), and of course, my personal favorite War-iPoding! Now you too can find all the iPods tucked away in BMWs and listen to the Universe from anywhere!

  4. It has to be asked... by TiggertheMad · · Score: 3, Funny

    When you paddled past Bill's house, did you find any open relays?

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    1. Re:It has to be asked... by Osty · · Score: 2, Informative

      When you paddled past Bill's house, did you find any open relays?

      Doubtful, considering Bill's house is on Lake Washington, not Lake Union.

    2. Re:It has to be asked... by TiggertheMad · · Score: 2, Funny

      True enough, and since he is on the east side of the lake, it is quite unlikely that you could pick up any stray signals from his place at that range. It is also quite likely that his personal network admin (I'm guessing that he has one and that Bill could afford one that knows what he is doing) probably has the network security cranked up pretty high, since getting on the private network of the RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD (Da-du-DUM!) would appeal to less scruplous people. It is aslo possible that I chose to ignore these facts, because nothing runins a good one-liner like over thinking things. So, work with me here, dude. Warpaddling, Bill Gates, open relays, laughter.

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  5. Wifi Detection by mfh · · Score: 5, Informative

    we couldn't help but bring along a lot of equipment and decided we'd hunt for open wireless spots, this friends- was "War Kayaking" we found a ton
    You absolute nerds! Also, why didn't you just use the Smart ID Wifi detector? It's only $25, and therefore it trumps any pocket PC. Plus you don't risk as much if you get wet: something that tends to happen frequently when I Kayak. :-) (that and getting stuck in the damn thing, upside-down)

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    1. Re:Wifi Detection by 1DarkZen · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's cool but, if you actually want to use your wifi connection, you're gonna need to get your laptop out.
      Or a really cool surfboard!

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    2. Re:Wifi Detection by throwaway18 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'v got one of those Wifi detectors. The detection range is significantly smaller than with a laptop. It's a nice toy and I'v found it usfull to be able to see if a wifi card is transmitting some power when fiddling with drivers.
      It picks up microwave ovens, 2.4GHz cameras and bluetooth as well as wifi though I can tell them apart by the way the lights flash.

  6. You forgot my favorite! by Braingoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    WAREATING Take laptop into restaurant and see what WIFI you can pick. Then mayb eyou can find a place with both a good cheese steak sandwich and a decent internet connection. ahhhh paradise!

  7. War Golfing by millahtime · · Score: 3, Funny

    War Golfing has been around for years. Every time I go it's war with the tall grass, war with the trees, war with the sand traps and war with the whole damn course.

  8. Hmmm... by Paulrothrock · · Score: 3, Funny

    Two networks with SSIDs of linksys and NETGEAR. How much do you want to bet we already know their admin passwords?

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  9. But.... by jdhutchins · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do they then warchalk their boats to remember where the hotspot was?

    1. Re:But.... by Onikuma · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course not. They use war buoys.

  10. All they needed were a few plastic baggies... by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Funny
    So, with a few plastic baggies, a wifi card, Pocket PC and a free application you too can make kayaking a little more interesting.

    With a few plastic baggies filled up with the right stuff, you can make almost *anything* interesting.

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  11. War Canoes (quite OT) by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 2

    Hmmm... Technically they're not kayaks, but it appears native Pacific Northwesterners and New Zealanders beat you to it with their war canoes.

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  12. Re:Ok, that's it. by Mannerism · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who gives a crap if there are open wi-fi spots on the water?

    It's important for those who enjoy surf surfing.

  13. They forgot something by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The guys forgot to put some kind of floating device inside the baggies...

    Their PDA maybe protected from splashes, but if they drop it in the water, they'll need to do some war-scubadiving to get it back.

  14. Re:Next up on slashdot... by k4_pacific · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, I'm still waiting for the article on War Spelunking.

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  15. yet another war something... by maxbang · · Score: 2, Funny

    Some ideas for using the latest buzzword, war-*:

    war-diving: fumbling through kismet while tumbling through the air at 15,000 ft
    war-gimping: using kismet/gps combo while in a wheelchair
    war-muling: strapping your kismet running lappy on a mule while trudging through columbia
    war-basing: giving a basehead your zaurus with kismet/gps addon card and letting it log the hotspots as it travels through countless hands and finally sits idle at a pawn shop after 22 hours
    war-gerbiling: eh, don't need details here
    and so forth...
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  16. I take issue with that article by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 3, Informative
    It says
    For about $12 per hour you can kayak around one of the most amazing places in the world
    Let me tell you, I've not traveled anwhere as widely as I'd ike to, but I have visited Seattle, and I can tell you for a fact that Lake Union, while it's pleasant enough, is not one of the most amazing places in the world. I don't think it gets onto my top 1,000 list. Probably not on my top 10,000 either. It probably gets into my top 100,000 though.
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  17. Re:you're being too general by geordi177 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But if you were on the water, how many of the WiFi network owner's pet names would you know? The point is that the sheer number of open networks, while fun to browse and borrow bandwidth from, is a general problem with inexperienced users getting advanced technology.

    Everything should be secure.

  18. I've been War Kayaking before... by blueminder · · Score: 4, Funny

    My friends and I all went in kayaks and canoes and started to tip each other over in a full-scale war it seemed. You could see many kamikazes flying off their kayaks in order to bring down the large fleets of canoes coming our way. Those with the larger paddles often attacked from below and many people begin to recover their equipment after being detached making this last longer...

    Of course, had we brought our Wi-Fi equipment we would have been screwed.

  19. Outdoors? by dfn5 · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...to sometimes partake in outdoor activity

    Where is this outdoors you speak of?

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  20. Re:As the summer approaches? by at_kernel_99 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Isn't it officially summer everywhere as of yesterday?
    Not for roughly, oh, half the world...
  21. Re:Get a life! by ptorrone · · Score: 3, Informative

    i did in fact program the robots on my site to dance around, filmed it, documented it, shared the files. i don't really have fashion advice for anyone, i just document stuff i happen to like when i used to travel, i'm broke, in fact i'd kill to get to zero as opposed to in debt, so i don't think wealthy is an accurate term. i use "we" since it's the voice of the site. as far as getting a life...i'm willing to bet that i'm having a lot of fun and spending my time doing stuff i like as opposed to going out of my way to poke at someone :-] but i suppose that could be fun to some folks too.

  22. Unencrypted by JohnGrahamCumming · · Score: 2, Interesting
    For the next hour we paddled a little over 3 miles in a variety of different areas- every few seconds or so we picked up a new Wifi spot, our Pocket PC was set to automatically use open Wifi spots so we were able to check email, instant message, log on to IRC (#joiito on freenode) and do everything you'd expect, but all from a kayak.
    Yeah, and since you were using POP3 my "look-at-this -idiot-who-left-his-wifi-open" AP just recorded your username and password which since your ISP uses the same password for shell access has given me a free shell account. Mwah hah hah.

    Seriously, folks, don't go around connecting to any old AP just because it's open unless the first thing you do is set up an SSH tunnel to somewhere and use it to redirect your traffic.

    In another topic, I'm amazed that no one has set up fake T-Mobile or WayPort APs in cities just to grab CC numbers. It would be *so* easy.

    John.

    1. Re:Unencrypted by ptorrone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      although i think a lot of people do in fact do that, i however did not. i'd never send along info i cared about when doing something like, mostly because i'm the same person that would set up a "honeypot" to see what people would do :-]

    2. Re:Unencrypted by presmike · · Score: 2, Informative

      if you went to defcon last year you would know that this is done already ;) (fake ap's to steal cc's that is.)

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  23. Yeah, that's why I go kayaking by kidlinux · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who cares about wifi spots out on the river? I don't jump in my kayak to go browse the web or check my email. I specifically engage in athletic and recreational activity to get away from all that crap.

    Honestly, this kind of thing is getting to be pretty sad. It reminds me of the commercial from Motomaster advertising their portable power supply (like a UPS for the outdoors.) It shows a family somewhere in the middle of a forest with appliances plugged in, and a kid on his friggin laptop playing games. I find myself asking "why did they leave home in the first place?"

    "we couldn't help but bring along a lot of equipment and decided we'd hunt for open wireless spots"

    Why not!? Leave your damn cell phones, PDAs, laptops and assorted other junk at home. Do you really need all that to enjoy the great outdoors? Does it enhance the experience in some way? I'd have a hard time believing anyone who told me as much. Sure, you can take video and thousands of pictures and show all your friends - maybe even do it live with all the hotspots - but you know what? People get so busy trying to "capture" the moment that they forget to enjoy it while they're there. Aside from which, telling a story and leaving it to your friends' imaginations is far more exciting.

    I realize I've deviated slightly from the topic. The point I'm trying to make is that I think a lot of people really need to unplug and discover the world outside of electronics. Leaving all that stuff at home is what really enhances the experience. All you need is yourself and your kayak.

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    1. Re:Yeah, that's why I go kayaking by ptorrone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      i wouldn't say "hey, you should do this and that, bring electronics, never unplug, blah, blah" so why would you want to tell me what to do? i actually like to use technology in lots of places, it's fun for me. i never quite got why people would demand you "enjoy" something in a certain way -their way- and nothing else.

    2. Re:Yeah, that's why I go kayaking by at_kernel_99 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I realize I've deviated slightly from the topic. The point I'm trying to make is that I think a lot of people really need to unplug and discover the world outside of electronics. Leaving all that stuff at home is what really enhances the experience. All you need is yourself and your kayak.

      As an avid outdoor enthusiast, I agree in principle. I can't avoid, however, pointing out that they're apparently kayaking in downtown Seattle. Not exactly the great outdoors.

    3. Re:Yeah, that's why I go kayaking by lidocaineus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ..."Hey, I could have at least gotten items A or B done today, instead of lying in this hammock."

      Honestly, if you feel this way, you need MORE time away from your laptop. Being a human isn't always about getting something done.

      What I think the grandparent's point is is that we should never be slaves to our tech. While it's fun (and even applicable) during outdoor activities, we shouldn't lose an appreciation for what lies out there beyond what a JPG on a screen can give us. There's plenty of time to play with your new bluetooth GPS receiver, and there's also time to put it away and appreciate the awe of a huge cliff you hiked 2 days to get to.

  24. This reminds me of a great Mozilla extension by aardwolf204 · · Score: 2
    This reminds me of a great Mozilla FireFox extension that renames by browser to things such as Mozilla FireWorm, SpaceDragon, MoonPony, WaterSpider, or SuperPanda.

    War Dialing was cool

    War Driving was nostalgic

    War Flying was cute

    War Biking, Skateboarding, Parasailing, Hang-gliding, sky-diving, monster-truck driving, walking, chalking, talking, and even steven hawking were just kind of uninteresting.

    Now if a soldier in Iraq wants to mount an iPaq, Solar panel, GPS, and WiFi card on his helmet and call it War-War'ing, that *might* be cool enough to come full circle and be sweet again.

    Until then, its off to Defcon and try to get a twentyseventhousandmillion mile 802.11b signal going.

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  25. Re:Get a life! by ptorrone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the "we" thing, okay- i understand that feedback, but that's the voice of the site, i'll see if it makes sense to change it for the how tos. thanks for the kind words on the how-tos, folks seem to like them. right now, i have 3 ipods and 4-5 phones, as i upgrade, i keep them and use them for other things, i might be ebaying some for $. as far as time to do all this stuff, i don't really sleep that much and right now, i'm taking some time off to enjoy life. and lastly "pulling the same face" wow, well- i can't change the way i look. hope this clears stuff up.

  26. Re:Next up on slashdot... by Lattitude · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Anything?"
    "Nope - still nothing."
    "This sucks."

  27. Re:Ummm by garymcg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You must be new here....

    Seriously, I completely agree with the parent poster. I thought the whole point of outdoor leisure activities was to get away from laptops, cell phones, pagers, television, etc.

    I scuba dive, and it is a whole other world down there. A world with no cell phones, internet etc. where no one even knows exactly where you are. Well no one but your dive buddy, and even that's doubtful given his poor underwater navigation skills...

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  28. Apologies if it's already been said... by cheezfreek · · Score: 3, Funny

    Last week I was sure I saw U.S. President Bush war mongering...
    Groan, boo, hiss, I know.