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Red Hat Announces Certified Architect Curriculum
Anonymous Coward writes "Red Hat announced a new advanced certification today, Red Hat Certified Architect. One training expert, however, cautions that Red Hat certifications can lock administrators in to Red Hat-specific skills."
You've installed Fedora and it erased your Windows partition. What do you do?
It would be nice if Red Hat offered a certification course for software developers.
Well, DUH...it is Red Hat certification. I can't imagine Red Hat would focus too much on teaching people how to use OTHER distros.
well, yes. when you get certified for a particular distro, you're going to get informed about *that* distro and no other. fortunately, for most human beings, learning one thing does not outright prevent them from learning other things.
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...into red-hat specific linux administration. Been using it for 2 years now...all the way from 7.2 to FC 2. Tried to install Debian Woody a few weeks ago, no success. Couldn't even figure out what's going on. So guys, forget RedHat. You won't be needing any certification to work with it.
MSCE used to sound more official, before they started churning them out like McNuggets.
And the MSCE and other qualifications don't?
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Is this any better than Microsoft Certification? I wonder if it will lock more into Redhat and paying for that. Linux may be "better" in some ways to windows but this is still locking in.
Evolution or ID?
What a crock. I've passed the RHCE (with a 100% score in all sections). At no point did I feel that I was forced to use any Red Hat specific utilities or conventions. The exam is purely performance-based - Red Hat doesn't care if you want to use postfix or sendmail, vi or emacs,, or how the services start up at boot, as long as the specifications are met. You have to know how to use anaconda, but that's about it for RH-specific things that I can recall.
If you take certification classes, and that locks you into a particular distro, then it's your own fault. There's really no excuse for not doing your homework, be it in RH certification classes or at home reading the Gentoo manuals.
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Why is the word "Architect" used to describe someone with an advanced proficiency with RedHat?
Do you build structures out of RedHat?
Is your certification revoked if any of your projects crash ever?
Know what I like about atheists? I've yet to meet one that believes God is on their side.
Get real!
If someone is worth their salt then skills learnt with one distribution will be transferrable to another. The days of rote memorisation being sufficient for passing are pretty much gone - it'd even be a challenge to pass a MS exam with zero understanding of what you had memorised. The days of any employer (or even client) being impressed solely by a certificate are also (thankfully) passed. Any cert is just another fibre in a CV bow that indicates a minimum achievment, which should be strenthened by experience in the field
Besides - last I heard Redhat pretty much followed the few standards that exist such as the FHS.
It's not as if redhat is the only distribution to have tools that it developed for itself
You see, in Canada the term Engineer means something. I don't recall hearing of any resolution to the situation, but some time back Microsoft was officially made to stop using the term Engineer in regards to their Mouseclickeers.
I'm sick of following my dreams - I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
Look at the course outline: NTP, BIND, Kerberos, OpenSSH, Sendmail, Postfix, FTP, Apache, CVS, LDAP, PAM, . How is knowing how to configure and secure those apps going to lock you into RedHat. Do you really think admins are too dumb to find the config files when they're in another directory (shudder). I mean, sure, there's going to be some vendor-specific lessons, but a server app is almost identicle across distros, especially since most admins will package up their own preconfigured packages.
You have no idea what you are talking about. I passed the RHCE with a 100% without using a single Red Hat tool. They don't care HOW you do it, as long as it works when you are done.
This nonsense about being locked in to "Red Hat's way of doing things" is silly.
The RHCE is a GREAT certification test. I've done others (in particular Oracle). There is no comparison. In the RHCE test I took only 2 of 10 people passed. Five failed before the end of the first section. One guy left 10 minutes into the test. He was certified on all the other major Unix flavors. He thought he could pass the test by studying the course guide for the RH300 course. Two guys, who both failed, worked for IBM in their Linux development for Notes.
The LPI tests you on memorizing a bunch of command-line switches. RHCE tests you on doing real work. I'll take the hands-on test any day.
THOSE BASTARDS! How dare they! Why when I got my Sun Certified System Adminisrator, I learned everything there was to know about managing HP-UX. My Oracle cert made me an expert in DB2. What cert should I get next? I bet an MCSE cert would help me master QNX? Maybe I'll get a CCNA to prove my mastery of Nortel switches.
One training expert, however, cautions that Red Hat certifications can lock administrators in to Red Hat-specific skills.
Oh, because once you learn how to do something the "Red Hat" way you wont be capable of learning how to manage other operating systems.
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This is definitely flamebait (or offtopic, but enough of your are making this mistake, so....), I will be modded accordingly.....BUT:
For crissakes, there is no MSCE. It's the MCSE - Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer. Most of you zealots have no idea what it takes to make an MCSE, for that matter.
Yes, the NT4 track brought about a lot of 'paper MCSEs', systems administrators who didn't know their ass from the hole in their PCI slots. I was one of them.
The MCSE 2000 course was much more difficult, and although you can still 'bootcamp' it within 2 weeks, it's not a cakewalk. You will learn common sense administration. You will learn enough about TCP/IP to set up a network that should scale to 300 users. Basic stuff. All that can be reasonable expected from someone still trying to cut their teeth as a network administrator.
It's not an expert, end-all, be-all certification, but it's sufficient for people who need to administer Windows networks (though I certainly wouldn't have them designing them, necessarily). It also requires the commitment to sit through (at last check) 7 tests.
I am an MCSE. I spent a few months of studying and a couple years of real world experience getting there. I've considered Red Hat's offerings, as well as the more independent LPI offering, for Linux certification.
The fact that a product is unfavorable to yourself, whether Red Hat's distribution of Linux, or Microsoft's Windows, is not a valid reason to put down those who picked up the necessary skills to validate themselves with these certifications.
The company uses MS as an abbreviation for itself all the time. MSN, MS-DOS, and MSDN are the first three examples that spring to mind.