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Ghost in the Shell 2 in Theaters Late This Summer
Peter Williams writes "Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence is due out in theaters late summer 2004. The english website can be reached here."
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Man, that movie is my favorite naked assassin movie ever. Can't wait!
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Maybe a bug in Firefox, but I hate the jazzy, flashy movie websites anyway.
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Not really, it's a different medium. English dubbed cell drawn Anime has proven to do well (Princess Monenoke) in the US.
That said, I saw Ghost in the Shell 1 and never was as bored in all my life. Sure the animation is good and the visuals are atmospheric, but the English dialogue was bordering on the hypnotic. Big overlong monologues that go on and on and on..... zzzzzz. And I got halfway through the film and still hadn't figured out what the hell they meant by a 'ghost.' I kept asking, 'okay, ghosts are an important part of all of this, I get it, now will you kindly tell us what the f@*# a ghost is please?' But no. Just more pseudo-intellectual waffle.
I strongly warn against anyone watching this stuff if you want to get into anime for the first time. This yawn-fest is not representative of anime. Watch Cowboy Bebop instead. It's a lot more fun, the animated cityscapes are stunning, and it doesn't take itself very seriously.
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Goodbye warm grits, hello innocent GITS.
The anime market is very different from the western animation market. Mainly because in the West there isn't really a matured interest in animation films since they're geared towards the infant market.
In Japan this kind of film usually has great results in both cinema and DVD releases.
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you should also check out the "stand alone complex" series based off it. It assumes no familiarity with the movie but has the same chracters and a whole new plot. Right now theres planned 48 episodes but only 32 are translated by fansub groups. Very good anime unlike most the crap floating around.
If you are a fan of the Ghost in the Shell movie than you need to get your hands on the series. Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex is one of the most well produced anime series I've seen in a while. You don't need to be some total "Anime Freak ^_^" to watch these. Definatly some great stuff in here and better background on the GitS story.
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Compared with Armitage (along with others) and it's subsiquent sequels the creators of Ghost in the Shell really outdid themselves with it's production. Rarely does an Anime movie mix great plot, action, and camera angles with good "art". The entire Si Fi genre in Anime has suffered from serials that continue far beyond their disturbingly bad pilots. I for one am looking forward to this new sequel, from what i've heard it's not going to be a direct interpretation of the original movie's lines and characters. And if anyone has seen the original movie you can attest to the fact that it steps beyond the common "anime" genre and out-performs most of it's field and regular "live-action" movies as well.
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Wait. This thing is PG-13?...What was the first one rated?
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According to Roger Ebert the original carried 'No MPAA rating.'
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/1996/
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In order to appreciate films like this and Final Fantasy, you definetly need a better understanding of spirtual beliefs. The ghost, is the spirit or soul of the machine, in the same way a ghost is the bodyless soul of a person.
Final Fantasy, lends itself to the Gaia Theory, and taking it further to suggest that planets are living enties with their own soul.
Japanese animation has plenty of philosphy in them (not all of them admitedly), and can be very deep, so it takes more to appreciate them than your average american cartoon, which in contrast are very shallow.
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That site totally turned me off. I hate it when web sites mess with the size of my browser. I like it a certain size (which my home page will set when I open my browser just in case...) so when sites annoy me like that, 9 out of 10 times, the window gets closed. It reminds me of the days before pop-up blockers where pr0n sites would pop up full screen everywhere.
blah. I didn't even get past the flash intro.
Anyone want to let me in on this series?
-Mark
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And I got halfway through the film and still hadn't figured out what the hell they meant by a 'ghost.'
Ghost in the Shell does not pander to MTV attention spans, and like the Patlabor movies, there's a complex plot. And a "ghost", while a vague concept, is quite obviously(if you pay attention) "what makes a person a person and not a machine". It's your personality, memories, etc. Part of it is that nobody seems to quite be able to put their finger on what a 'ghost' really is; hence the scene where Motoko wonders with Batou whether or not she's really human anymore. Are her memories manufactured, she wonders?
Watch Cowboy Bebop instead. It's a lot more fun, the animated cityscapes are stunning, and it doesn't take itself very seriously.
Cowboy Bebop is one of the all-time greats, but there are those of us who do enjoy serious anime.
There were a lot of complaints about Ghost In the Shell: Stand Alone Complex too- a lot of immature people complained there wasn't enough "action" and there was "too much talking". Well, guess what- that's -exactly- what GITS has always been about, right down to the manga, which sometimes has -paragraphs- of narration.
If you don't like philosophical anime, fine- go watch mindless shit like [shivers] Dragon Ball Z, [gets sick] Naruto, or [throws up] One Piece. But don't try to make every anime fit your tastes and complain when something doesn't.
The slashdot crowd might really enjoy PlanetES, about a young girl full of ideals who goes into space to work in a debris collection department- and finds space isn't quite as romantic, and astronauts not quite as valiant- as she thought.
Last Exile is about two kids serve as couriers, piloting a flying machine in the midst of a war and hoping to some day find their father(s) who were lost delivering a vital message.
Read or Die(watch the OVA first) is a fun series about three detective-sisters(named after martial arts starts, incidentally- Anita, Maggie, Michelle; there's also a Lee, a dove named Woo, etc :-) who are "paper-users" like the famous bibliomaniac Yoriko "The Paper" Readman, who worked for (heh) the British Library Special Forces. The OVA is particularly strange in a fun way. Kinda girly and -very- moving towards the end.
Oh, and lastly, Spirited Away is fantastic. Not nearly as preachy as Ghibli's earlier stuff(which is also excellent, but extremely heavy-handed in environmentalist ways. Princess Mononoke, Nausicca Valley of the Wind, etc).
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I was able to see this movie when it premiered at the Seattle International Film Festival (at the Cinerama no less with it's kick ass visual and sound systems). It focuses on Bateau 3 years after the first movie. I enjoyed 2 in much the same way as 1 but it definitely has the same over use of philosophy and metaphors. If you don't get hung up on that, it is the most visually stunning film I've ever seen. While some of the scenes seem like they just did them to look good and don't aid the story at all, there are other moments where the juxtaposition of classical animation on top of intricately detailed CG environments gives it a remarkable look and sense of immersion. If you liked the first one, you'll definitely enjoy this one, even if it is a bit lighter on the substance. If you couldn't get by 1's philosophizing diaglouge, 2 will drive you insane.
The Crowd
The theatre (Cinerama) was packed. The rush line (people who didn't buy tickets in advance) wound around the corner. I don't think many got in.
The Presentation
Subtitles. Hooray!
The Movie
One of the few films that's substantially better than the original. I re-watched the original a few days before seeing this to refresh myself of the story (not necessary).
I don't want to give away any spoilers, so I'll just say that it's some of the best feature-length anime I've seen in a long time.
The things that bothered me with the original (like the gratuitious nudity and slow pace) were left out.
Overall
It's great that this film is making it to theatres, in any case, it would be a big hit on DVD. The big screen was a big help.
Make sure to check out the japanese trailer . It's way better and ironically almost entirely in english.
Grow up, dude. Not all nudity implies "stroke yourself while watching this." Nudity can be used as an essential plot device, to help character development, or to invoke specific feelings (shame, modesty, sexuality, empowerment, etc.)
Some of us adults understand this, some do not. You seem to belong in the latter group. Feel free go back to your Smurfs and Rugrats, and leave the interesting movies to the grown-ups. The ones who can grasp the concept that "cartoons" aren't just for Saturday morning kids.
Speaking of the matrix...
Watch the original Ghost in the Shell.
Then Watch the first Matrix.
Compare.
Of course, the Wachowski brothers did say they were trying to do a "live-action japanese animation movie".
We just didn't know they just wanted to do a 1-to-1 conversion of a specific movie.
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Or you can buy the retail version that comes out July 27th (in the US, region 1). Most of the US anime companies are very fan-friendly and do not carry the same practices as the RIAA/MPAA. Please support an industry that is fan-friendly.
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The best of the matrix is the Annimatrix.
I haven't watched the first Ghost in the shell - I'll have to get it. I do want to see 2 in te theatres. I would love to also get the Aeon Flux series on DVD.
My wife thinks i am nuts because I watch alot of the Annime in japanese. Sometime watching the art of the annimation without understanding the words gives a whole new perspective.
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The producer in Japan said that the title of the film should not have "2" in its name. The American title should have been Refer "Innocence - Ghost In the Shell". His intention was to target this movie to Japanese people who hadn't seen the original.
I think sequels are generally poorer than the initial movie and are a marketing convenience, but how many people won't see "2" because they missed "1"? Now that anime is widely popular (at least, compared to back in 1994), they should have stuck with the Japanese name.
"Innocence" also conveys the director's vision than "2" does. Mamoru Oshii is making a movie about life. What is human life and existance, as opposed to those that are machines? "Innocence": The theme of the movie.
Mamoru Oshii's vision is to make a movie that discusses--often overtly, which bothers some--the nature of human existence and how technology is changing the definition of humanity.