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Ghost in the Shell 2 in Theaters Late This Summer
Peter Williams writes "Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence is due out in theaters late summer 2004. The english website can be reached here."
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Man, that movie is my favorite naked assassin movie ever. Can't wait!
The Neo-Bohemian Techno-Socialist
Ghost in the Shell was one of the most impressive Animes I have ever seen! If your not yet a fan of anime the original Ghost in the Shell is a hell of a place to start. Heres hoping the sequel will do it justice!
Ghost in the Shell has nothing to do with Final Fantasy.
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Maybe a bug in Firefox, but I hate the jazzy, flashy movie websites anyway.
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So they are bringing back the same characters? But how will this work with the merging of the AI with the naked assassin?
Not really, it's a different medium. English dubbed cell drawn Anime has proven to do well (Princess Monenoke) in the US.
Wait. This thing is PG-13? What does that mean? No more nudity? Less violence? What was the first one rated?
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That said, I saw Ghost in the Shell 1 and never was as bored in all my life. Sure the animation is good and the visuals are atmospheric, but the English dialogue was bordering on the hypnotic. Big overlong monologues that go on and on and on..... zzzzzz. And I got halfway through the film and still hadn't figured out what the hell they meant by a 'ghost.' I kept asking, 'okay, ghosts are an important part of all of this, I get it, now will you kindly tell us what the f@*# a ghost is please?' But no. Just more pseudo-intellectual waffle.
I strongly warn against anyone watching this stuff if you want to get into anime for the first time. This yawn-fest is not representative of anime. Watch Cowboy Bebop instead. It's a lot more fun, the animated cityscapes are stunning, and it doesn't take itself very seriously.
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Goodbye warm grits, hello innocent GITS.
The anime market is very different from the western animation market. Mainly because in the West there isn't really a matured interest in animation films since they're geared towards the infant market.
In Japan this kind of film usually has great results in both cinema and DVD releases.
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If you are a fan of the Ghost in the Shell movie than you need to get your hands on the series. Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex is one of the most well produced anime series I've seen in a while. You don't need to be some total "Anime Freak ^_^" to watch these. Definatly some great stuff in here and better background on the GitS story.
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How is that trollish?? My goodness.. If someone dislikes what you like doesn't automatically make them a troll. It's called an opinion.
Compared with Armitage (along with others) and it's subsiquent sequels the creators of Ghost in the Shell really outdid themselves with it's production. Rarely does an Anime movie mix great plot, action, and camera angles with good "art". The entire Si Fi genre in Anime has suffered from serials that continue far beyond their disturbingly bad pilots. I for one am looking forward to this new sequel, from what i've heard it's not going to be a direct interpretation of the original movie's lines and characters. And if anyone has seen the original movie you can attest to the fact that it steps beyond the common "anime" genre and out-performs most of it's field and regular "live-action" movies as well.
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well to be honest what series in recent memory have been close to the classics like cowboy bebop? The only series I can think of that are worth watching are Ghost In The Shell Stand Alone Complex and Gundam:Seed. Both are simply continuations of an already successful theme. The only semi orignal anime to come out that hasn't sucked was Hellsing and the maker had ment for it to be another lame comedyish action anime and he was pissed when they went for a dark themed anime (thats why there was no 2nd season despite high ratings). Most anime now is "guy somehow gets involved with hot chics and falls in love" or "reluctant hero samurai joints underage girls to avenge some past wrong". Look at the older anime series and they were a lot more open to doing new ideas and themes where as most the thigns now days try to ride on the coattails of an already successful series.
GitS is suposed to be one of like the top Anime films, i picked up the dvd for that reason, not the first in my collection, but i got it pretty much just to have it. I liked it, but it was kinda boring in parts (not as boring as metropolis though, what a yawn fest), probably didn't help that i had the flu and a 103 fever when i watched it, but anywho.. I Agree, the CB movie is much better to introduce someone to anime, that or maybe Princess Mononoke. I'd recomend Akira as a second film.
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I guess I am what you would call: "A Lazy Fat-Bastard"
I have enjoyed a lot of the Anime that I have watched, but I still don't know enough of it to reccommend to anybody as a good beginner/intro movie/show.
My Favorites:
Ninja Scroll (#1 in my book)
Ranma 1/2
Robotech (not the sanitized US version)
I guess I am still an Anime vigrin (although Ninja Scroll was a brutal introduction), what movies/series would you suggest a person who wants to watch more Anime view?
"The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." ~Plato (427-347 BC)
In order to appreciate films like this and Final Fantasy, you definetly need a better understanding of spirtual beliefs. The ghost, is the spirit or soul of the machine, in the same way a ghost is the bodyless soul of a person.
Final Fantasy, lends itself to the Gaia Theory, and taking it further to suggest that planets are living enties with their own soul.
Japanese animation has plenty of philosphy in them (not all of them admitedly), and can be very deep, so it takes more to appreciate them than your average american cartoon, which in contrast are very shallow.
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You don't need them to release a "version"
Just get the legit DVD and a subtitle file, and grab Media Player Classic. Disable the DVD subs and load the fansub file.
That's what I did with some bootleg "Ghost in the Shell: Stand alone Complex" disks. One of the disks just was horribly unsinc'd and badly translated.
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Ghost in the Shell
Just another sequal series which will disapoint (like Gundam SEED, Macross Zero etc).
It's annoyingthat years after the originals people want to cash in on the name rather then using their heads and making something intresting and original (Full metal alchemist forexample)
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Life is offtopic.
That site totally turned me off. I hate it when web sites mess with the size of my browser. I like it a certain size (which my home page will set when I open my browser just in case...) so when sites annoy me like that, 9 out of 10 times, the window gets closed. It reminds me of the days before pop-up blockers where pr0n sites would pop up full screen everywhere.
blah. I didn't even get past the flash intro.
Anyone want to let me in on this series?
-Mark
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I've been waiting months for this, and now I get to wait a few more.
I've had the japanese version for a long time, but could never translate it for myself no matter how hard I tried =(.
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And I got halfway through the film and still hadn't figured out what the hell they meant by a 'ghost.'
Ghost in the Shell does not pander to MTV attention spans, and like the Patlabor movies, there's a complex plot. And a "ghost", while a vague concept, is quite obviously(if you pay attention) "what makes a person a person and not a machine". It's your personality, memories, etc. Part of it is that nobody seems to quite be able to put their finger on what a 'ghost' really is; hence the scene where Motoko wonders with Batou whether or not she's really human anymore. Are her memories manufactured, she wonders?
Watch Cowboy Bebop instead. It's a lot more fun, the animated cityscapes are stunning, and it doesn't take itself very seriously.
Cowboy Bebop is one of the all-time greats, but there are those of us who do enjoy serious anime.
There were a lot of complaints about Ghost In the Shell: Stand Alone Complex too- a lot of immature people complained there wasn't enough "action" and there was "too much talking". Well, guess what- that's -exactly- what GITS has always been about, right down to the manga, which sometimes has -paragraphs- of narration.
If you don't like philosophical anime, fine- go watch mindless shit like [shivers] Dragon Ball Z, [gets sick] Naruto, or [throws up] One Piece. But don't try to make every anime fit your tastes and complain when something doesn't.
The slashdot crowd might really enjoy PlanetES, about a young girl full of ideals who goes into space to work in a debris collection department- and finds space isn't quite as romantic, and astronauts not quite as valiant- as she thought.
Last Exile is about two kids serve as couriers, piloting a flying machine in the midst of a war and hoping to some day find their father(s) who were lost delivering a vital message.
Read or Die(watch the OVA first) is a fun series about three detective-sisters(named after martial arts starts, incidentally- Anita, Maggie, Michelle; there's also a Lee, a dove named Woo, etc :-) who are "paper-users" like the famous bibliomaniac Yoriko "The Paper" Readman, who worked for (heh) the British Library Special Forces. The OVA is particularly strange in a fun way. Kinda girly and -very- moving towards the end.
Oh, and lastly, Spirited Away is fantastic. Not nearly as preachy as Ghibli's earlier stuff(which is also excellent, but extremely heavy-handed in environmentalist ways. Princess Mononoke, Nausicca Valley of the Wind, etc).
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I was able to see this movie when it premiered at the Seattle International Film Festival (at the Cinerama no less with it's kick ass visual and sound systems). It focuses on Bateau 3 years after the first movie. I enjoyed 2 in much the same way as 1 but it definitely has the same over use of philosophy and metaphors. If you don't get hung up on that, it is the most visually stunning film I've ever seen. While some of the scenes seem like they just did them to look good and don't aid the story at all, there are other moments where the juxtaposition of classical animation on top of intricately detailed CG environments gives it a remarkable look and sense of immersion. If you liked the first one, you'll definitely enjoy this one, even if it is a bit lighter on the substance. If you couldn't get by 1's philosophizing diaglouge, 2 will drive you insane.
The Crowd
The theatre (Cinerama) was packed. The rush line (people who didn't buy tickets in advance) wound around the corner. I don't think many got in.
The Presentation
Subtitles. Hooray!
The Movie
One of the few films that's substantially better than the original. I re-watched the original a few days before seeing this to refresh myself of the story (not necessary).
I don't want to give away any spoilers, so I'll just say that it's some of the best feature-length anime I've seen in a long time.
The things that bothered me with the original (like the gratuitious nudity and slow pace) were left out.
Overall
It's great that this film is making it to theatres, in any case, it would be a big hit on DVD. The big screen was a big help.
Make sure to check out the japanese trailer . It's way better and ironically almost entirely in english.
Speaking of the matrix...
Watch the original Ghost in the Shell.
Then Watch the first Matrix.
Compare.
Of course, the Wachowski brothers did say they were trying to do a "live-action japanese animation movie".
We just didn't know they just wanted to do a 1-to-1 conversion of a specific movie.
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The best of the matrix is the Annimatrix.
I haven't watched the first Ghost in the shell - I'll have to get it. I do want to see 2 in te theatres. I would love to also get the Aeon Flux series on DVD.
My wife thinks i am nuts because I watch alot of the Annime in japanese. Sometime watching the art of the annimation without understanding the words gives a whole new perspective.
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Ummm... I hate to break it to you. But GITS:2 is not 2D animated. By the end of 2D animation, Eisner means the process of hand-drawing every single frame. Pen-ing, Ink-ing then transfering to film.
I can safely say that 80% of the scenes in the trailer are definitely computer animated. The other 20% probably are also, but I couldn't say for sure.
Eisner is right, the old way of doing 2D animation is dead. It is too pain-staking, and frankly we can get a computer to do a better job at a lot of the things a human used to have to do.
If you mean that the 2D animation style is dead. Then you are wrong. And don't quote Eisner either since that isn't what he is talking about. He is talking about process. How much do we use computers in the process of making animation. Traditional 2D animation didn't use them at all. Today the answer is, we use them a lot, and they will be used more in the future. Hell, even South Park which is probably one of the most crudely animated series (it used to be done with construction paper) uses Maya.
A lot of work has gone into making computer animation look like traditional cell animation. Studios can do a pretty good job now. I guess fooling people into thinking it was done the old way means that studios been fantasitically successful. I however find it ironic that you lament the passing of the old way of doing things, by pointing to something that was clearly made by new means.
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Not really a interest? What about:
The Simpson's
King of the Hill
The Critic (gone, but a success for a year or two)
Ren and Stimpy
The above are what I would consider adult cartoons. While not mature in any respect, many adults (including myself) do love them.
I think Americans like to laugh when they see cartoon because we have always laughed. Kids and Adults both enjoy these and cartoons such as Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck and others. When we see comics or cartoons discussing serious situations the end up being BORING. So if there's not enough action (rock em sock em style of robotic fury), we get turned off. Also, in Japan, people aren't as sensitive to seeing an animated boob on screen.
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Flash.
Browser Maximizing (which is especially stupid on my dual monitor box)
Saturnic rollover navigation.
Crappy Audio loops.
I'm surprised there's no butterflies following my mouse cursor...
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Will it come to Europe? I can't even buy the series here in Sweden. I have to use bittorrent do be able to watch the series which I think sucks because I really want the series on DVD.
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"Yeah, Ms. Tweed, we uh, need you to get naked for the, er, plot, and to, uh, empower the feelings of modesty in our audience."
Give me strength: I don't disagree with you that artistic considerations can make nudity an essential element in a film, but every tit-flash isn't evidence of well-developed, mature cinematic sensibilities. If that were the case Showgirls would be considered Citzen Kane, and Girls Gone Wild would be a powerful work of documentary filmmaking.
So, let's take a quick look at how nudity is used in Ghost In The Shell. A quick trip over to Google's image search yields the following examples of important cinematography. Certainly no untoward objectification of women there. Just art for art's sake, for us grown-up types to enjoy over some sherry. The big tits are important to the artistic vision!
Can the fake sanctimoniousness. Nobody's saying that cartoons can't be a source of mature entertainent, and effective social commentary. Just a few examples. Heck, sometimes it gets a little racy.Actually, I do think the original poster did have an "MTV attention span." Yes GITS has many slow scenes but I didn't think it ruined the whole movie like I think he thought.
The Matrix sequels did suck, not because they were boring, but because they were not nearly as innovative as the original and they were not philosophical, they were psuedo-philosophical.
I think superbanana is just tired of people who either group all anime alongside mickey mouse; or people who think that all anime is as fast paced and shallow as DBZ. Not that I don't like DBZ, it's just not mental.
The producer in Japan said that the title of the film should not have "2" in its name. The American title should have been Refer "Innocence - Ghost In the Shell". His intention was to target this movie to Japanese people who hadn't seen the original.
I think sequels are generally poorer than the initial movie and are a marketing convenience, but how many people won't see "2" because they missed "1"? Now that anime is widely popular (at least, compared to back in 1994), they should have stuck with the Japanese name.
"Innocence" also conveys the director's vision than "2" does. Mamoru Oshii is making a movie about life. What is human life and existance, as opposed to those that are machines? "Innocence": The theme of the movie.
Mamoru Oshii's vision is to make a movie that discusses--often overtly, which bothers some--the nature of human existence and how technology is changing the definition of humanity.
Minor points:
- Plug at the back of the neck.
- A 'birth' scene.
- Armoured truck exploding/on fire.
- A bunch of soliders closing in on one location.
Major points:- Remember the market place chase scene in the Matrix? Remember one of the Agents missing and hitting watermelons, causing them to explode? Guess what, same thing happened in GITS.
- Remember Motoko's head being clutched by a nasty looking robot? Remember Neo's birth scene? And guess what, they're both naked AND wet in both scenes. (No, not that kinda wet, you sicko)
- Pillar scene. Both movies have the character standing behind a pillar at one point where it gets shot to bits, and acrobatic moves exist in both movies.
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I had the chance to see this film at the North American premier at the Seattle International Film Festival a couple of weeks ago. I won't reveal any spoilers, but I thought it was a great film. It's visually amazing! Some of the visuals in the film just made me want to wet my pants practically. The animators went through great lengths to make this film visually great.
Instead of confusing philosophy (like the Matrix sequels or the first Ghost in the Shell) they used Japanese poems to convey ideas in the storyline. The story feels pretty simplistic or at least enough to the point that you're not having to watch the movie three times to just understand everything that they're talking about.
Also unfortunately unlike the first Ghost in the Shell the storyline follows primarily Batou and also Togusa (who has become Batou's partner, but everyone has doubts about how the two operate together) instead of the Major in the first one (I guess it isn't really unfortunate since Batou seriously kicks some ass, but I really liked the first one how it followed the Major and the presence she gave in the first Ghost in the Shell).
Anyway, I can't wait to see this again! Great movie. I still don't feel it's as good as the first one, but definitely a good sequel to it.