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Firefox 0.9.1 and Thunderbird 0.7.1 Released
Dave writes "The Mozilla Foundation has just made available interim releases of Firefox 0.9.1 and Thunderbird 0.7.1. Apparently: 'These releases are designed to address early issues found in the new extension manager and automatic upgrade system as well as making changes to the new Firefox theme based on initial feedback.'"
Does anybody know if this will require a clean uninstall first??
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I've upgraded to 0.9.1, and I still get notification that new updates are available.
Anybody else getting this, or have I bodged something?
I'm honestly happy they haven't changed the name again. Trying to get your office to adapt to a new browser is hard enough when they are afraid to use software that doesn't "come in a box" much less when it keeps changing it's name.
You know IE is in trouble when a minor point release meant to address bugs only makes Slashdot headlines..
Wait, then again, the smell of T-Rex's breath did too.. Never mind.......
Firefox 0.9 has been quite unstable on my (Win) system compared to earlier relases. Hopefully this release addresses some of the issues.
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I hope this version either includes Adblock as standard or at least makes it easy to install as an extension. Adblock is a major reason to adopt Firefox - and it was a huge step backwards to find that 0.9 didn't support Adblock by default.
When I upgraded from 0.8 to 0.9 a bunch of things stopped working; the browser would spawn new windows whenever I clicked on a URL regardless of the config settings, popup-blocking was less-reliable, sometimes the download manager wouldn't close itself after a download was complete, and other weirdness. I think I'm going to hold off this time on promptly upgrading because 0.9 was not an improvement over 0.8.
I didn't start using Firefox until 0.8. For the most part, I loved it. The only problems I had were occasional page layout issues. Sometimes those required me to fall back on IE, which was a bit of a pain. Usually it had to do with certain web forms with multi-line text boxes that it showed way too small to be useful for writing lots of text.
Then I upgraded to the 0.9rc and something got totally hosed. Some dialog boxes would pop up with no text in them (like the download dialog). It also seemed to hose a few other things as well.
I tried uninstalling it and re-installing, but to no avail. So, for the moment, I'm sticking with IE, which is kind of sad. I mean, I loved some of the things in Firefox like the search plugins that let me search IMDB, dictionaries, and so forth. That's a cool feature. But I don't want to spend a lot of time trying to figure out why things aren't working.
Maybe when 1.0 comes out I'll give it another shot. And hopefully they'll improve the install. I particularly hate the fact that I can't just type in an install directory name, but have to go browse the directory. It defaults to C:\Program Files\Firefox and I just want to change the C: to a D: Why does that have to be so difficult?
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/mozilla/
http://mozilla.gnusoft.net/
These worked for me. (Posted as AC to avoid whore-accusations. :) )
But it appears you just did congratulate them..
The theme in 0.9 was a work in progress released early in the hope to gain some feedback, the 0.9.1 release just is updated with the current progress of that theme.
The original theme in 0.8 and below was removed for licensing reasons. You can still install it by going to the themes secion of update.mozilla.org (also accessible from the Theme Manager in the Tools menu)
The old default theme in 9.0 looked very nice. Thsi one looks horrible! Can we revert? Please?
I was really skeptical of the new winstripe theme in Firefox 0.9, the new changes introduced in 0.9.1 however makes it a LOT better in my opinion. I just wish Thunderbird would now work to unify its theme with Firefox.
It's the small things that makes the browser for me, the look and feel. It's hard to explain it in detail. Going back to IE after using Firefox for a long time just doesn't feel right. For example, there's all these little half-second pauses in IE when the controls and scrolling are unresponsive, times when the right-click context menu won't show up when it's still loading. Sometimes the window stops redrawing for a second or two (especially while running Windows Update, but otherwise too) etc. All these little glitches drive me crazy when I have to use IE.
It's like deja vu all over again.
But that's what's great about this community. We complained anyway, and kept complaining. Our voices were heard - we have access to so many of the developers and are a vocal bunch. I'm not sure if the theme is switched back to Qute, which I like, but all I know is that the 0.9 theme just wasn't professional enough to "take over the world".
Good job to all those who helped the project realize that we needed something better. Open-source is not just software - it's social too. Compared to OSS developers, closed developers don't have close to the conduits of communication to see what the users truly want. Especially when we're that passionate about such 'silly' things.
So keep making your voices heard, and don't let autocracy-like decisions harm your favorite project.
Berto
It's interesting to see how when releases of Firefox are made its only to fix minor bugs and add new features.
However, when updates to Internet Explorer are made, its for massive security holes and exploits, of course, this is only after two weeks of Microsoft saying that a patch is not needed and to not click links.
Why are people still using IE6? Back in the old days of the Internet, people weren't interested in using inferior browsers, I wish that same mentality still existed today.
Firefox and Thunderbird are great, however, I switched to Linux and use both applications (Firefox and Thunderbird) and a bunch of other cool Linux apps (Audicity rules!). It's great, because now I don't feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette every time I use my computer, hoping I don't get infested with adware or some random virus everytime I go to a webpage that I haven't been to before.
Errr, that's more or less the whole point of Firefox.
Compared to Mozilla; no Composer, no email client, no IRC client, no spaceship landing dock - JUST the browser.
So yes, of course it doesn't consume as much resources as it's big brother.
...a slightly more advanced version of writing "other side up" on both ends of a box.
Netscape lost it's battle trying to follow IExplorer
(jack-of-all-trades) app scheme. It became bloatware. Nobody cared that it could manage email, instant messages and newsgroups when all we wanted is to browse the damn web.
Then came firefox.
small, cute and F*A*S*T.
Yep, Firefox is fast. Just like Google..whatever
you are going to give, give it pronto.
I did make Firefox my default browser. That is a lot to say after 5 years waiting for a viable alternative. Sure company services DEMAND to see
IExplorer in the client info to support us. But at home...I built the net, there I'M GOD!
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Does anyone know if this was a planned release?
It just seems to follow very neatly on the recent IE/hacked websites business. I wonder if there was some extra pressure to get this out the door at a time when it would be able to cash in and if so, if it's likely to have been tested as well as previous releases.
They should have called this release "9.0 Optimized" just to force AOL to litigate them into yet another name change.
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
Did anyone else notice the CSS/Drawing bug on Slashdot where the side panel overlapped the side panel slightly. That bug has been fixed in this release.
:D
I love firefox
Si.
FF .9 appears to not run properly on Win95. Now the interesting thing is that Mozilla initially stated that .8 was for 98 and later. However, it turned out to run fine on 95. So the web pages were changed to reflect that.
.9, it just didn't work right. So I went back to .8. But now several versions of Bookmark Link Checker fail to work, i.e., no UI (no buttons or menu choices appear).
.9 would fail, *I would've just kept using .8 and having the Link Checker work!*
This time, it said "98 and later" and I assumed that they'd made the same error again. But when I tried
Wish they hadn't established the ambiguity in the first place. Had I known that
Charamel
I have nothing do do with this, btw, aside from the fact I love this theme.
Screw you all! I'm off to the pub
There should be a close/cancel button. How can the application assume there is a "close" provided by the WM.
You can also get the theme by going to the author's website (see sig).
[]s Badaro
My sig became obsolete, and I lack the imagination to create a new one.
I did that right away. I still get the little icon in the lower-right telling me there are updates available.
DaC
I do just want to say that as of 0.9 Firefox is freakin awesome (I had problems with it before), especially when kitted out with adblock and singlewindow and whatever other extension floats your boat.
I think the abundance of extensions show how many capable and creative developers there are outside the cosy little Linux/Slashdot/sourceforge community. If Firefox only ran on Linux, how many extensions do you think there would be? I'm betting not many. There's a whole world full of Windows/Mac/Whatever developers just waiting to contribute to something cool that runs on their OS. We should all be trying to be as cross-platform as possible, but half of us are writing code which won't even compile if it can't include "linux/sys.h". (BSD? Solaris? Never heard of 'em. Don't even want to.)
When I started this post I thought I'd get modded up for being a fanboy, now I'll probably get modded down for being "anti linux". Cool!
Which sites are you refering to?
Actually, Slashdot is one of the sites I had problems with. Sometimes different regions would overlap giving a pretty ugly display.
There were about a half dozen other pages.
You wrote: You have to remember, new Mozilla versions won't magically make broken markup/css work.
If IE magically makes them work, then I expect Mozilla to make them work. Keep in mind, I'm saying this from a user's point of view. Most users don't care if it's the fault of the person that designed the page. They're going to say, "Well, it worked in IE, so Mozilla must be broken." Even if the page designers screwed up, you'll never convince the users (except the technically proficient ones), that it's the fault of page designers, not if they see it working in IE.
0.9.1.
Come on guys. I need 1.0 pronto.
Everyone at home is using IE6 which as we all know has major unpatched holes which have already been exploited by the russian mob.(P.S. do you think that had anything to do with the Akamai DNS outage)
Now this would not be a huge problem, except they're using their credit cards online, passwords etc. I've got some pretty critical stuff on that windows box and I don't want some jerk from Russia or the NSA snooping about my account, which of course on a windows box is everyone's account!
Yesterday I finally decided to get Firefox 0.9(.0 >:|) for the XP computer. I was influenced in no small part by CERT's recommendation. If they've actually noticed other browsers, then something must be VERY wrong. I'm trying to get the family to use it, but you know how it is. "This isn't the proper internet!" . "What happened to the internet?" etc, etc, etc.
But I'm past caring. The fact that MS haven't fixed the problem yet really was the last straw. I'm going to make them give up IE if it kills me. However Firefox on windows is still a little buggy, paticularly with autodissconnect. So Version 1.0 would be nice ASAP.
My reasons for switching are of course manifest, but on top of all of that I have a hunch that MicroSoft are going to drop IE in the near future. I know, I know they've re-constituted the IE team but that doesn't mean the team will work exclusivly on IE. I figure since IE is so full of holes, MS will just prefer to start from scratch, maybe develop new goodies/lock-ins. Tellingly IE still runs on 'number' versions; IE4,IE5,IE6 instead of the usual MS versioning; 95,98,2000,XP,2003 etc. Think about it. Hmm?
Well I'm not waiting around for them to dump the only windows browser I use, so I'm going to make a switch now. Hopefully I can keep the pain to a minimum, but it will mean downloading the ENTIRE Java runtime enviorment on a dialup... I'll see you in 2020.
May the Maths Be with you!
This newest new default theme does look much nicer than that macinwindows one they had before. If you are upgrading from regular 0.9, you won't see it if you have another theme installed. You'll have to switch back to default to see it.
Here's a screenshot of winstripe in 0.9.1.
Looks much better than in 0.9 if you ask me. Good Job!
Well, let me guess :
:
:
o okies.txt
1) No tabbrowser extensions?
Try here : http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/tbe (it works and I'm using it on 0.9 right now)
2) No Adblock or it doesn't work right?
Try here : http://adblock.mozdev.org/adblock-0.5-dev.xpi (again, it works perfectly on 0.9 and I'm using it)
Finally, if stuff still does not work for you, use this old trick that has saved me a lot of times
Close Firefox.
Rename your profile folder.
Start Firefox again - it will re-create your profile folder. Close it.
Copy over the following files to the new profile folder (overwriting the existing ones)
bookmarks.html
history.dat
formhistory.dat
c
signons.txt
That's it. Ofcourse, you will have to install your extensions all over again, but that does not take much time and it's worth the effort. Every single time I've used this procedure it's worked perfectly and Firefox has gone back to it's usual efficient self.
Hope this helps.
Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
You can see what's stored in the RAM in Mozilla browsers by typing "about:cache?device=memory" into the address bar.
If it's using too much memory, you can try reducing the RAM cache by typing "about:config" into the address bar then look for the key "browser.cache.memory.capacity" and change the value to 1024 or something similar.
More here.
Mozilla is a suite, containing a browser, a mail/news client, an addressbook, an IRC-client, a HTML editor. Hence it is quite a heavy application.
Thunderbird and Firefox are derived from the same codebase, but are much lighter since they contain much less functionality. Thunderbird is just mail/news (including an addressbook of course) and Firefox is only the browser.
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Still no comparison to the refined elegance of Qute, not to mention Qute more nearly matches IE's theme, making converting the average IE user much easier.
I see no changes to the theme, at least not for Mac OS X users, it's still got the same garish icons that showed up inexplicably in 0.9, and the original Pinstripe theme is still not available.
I don't care if the icons have square boxes around them or not, but they should at least make the low-intensity monochrome Safari-style symbols available for people who prefer them.
So we know what we are talking about without having to download firefox:
http://tribbin.no-ip.org/pub/firefox-0.9.1.png
If you mod this up, your slashdot background will turn into a beautiful sunset!
That's what you are saying, and what I already knew. But now there's also this:
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AFAIK, Firefox doesn't include a splash screen (yet)?
zWhat would an EWOULDBLOCK block, if an EWOULDBLOCK could block would? -- me
nah, it's the IE user that got the worm.
Snowden and Manning are heroes.
That would be a feature.
Anyone ever smell the Mozilla logo's breath?
Did they fix the memory leak in FireFox 0.9 for Linux?
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
If CERT/Homeland Security publicly recommend people switch that's going to definitely have some influence. They came pretty close to doing just that with recent IIS/IE vulnerabilities. The Washington Post picked it up Saturday.
had a look at the roadmap and in 1.0b Greenlane a planned feature is an ActiveX installer
now hold on just a second... whats going on here? isnt ActiveX the root of most of IE's vulnerabilities?
*dons tinfoil hat*
TIAEAE!
Luckily I don't have any mod points... otherwise I'd be torn between modding this Informative or Funny.. or maybe Redundant? ;)
If you want the Tab Browser Extensions to work, use the "Smoke" theme instead of the default one. Kind of ironic that Firefox is standardizing on the OS X inspired theme on all platforms, when that theme is broken on OS X itself...
Has anyone had problems with /. rendering in mozilla.
When the main page comes up with a banner ad on the side of the page it mangles the text in the column on the left and the main stories column?
I thought 0.9.1 might fix this but no dice. Also it worked fine in 0.8.