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Canadian High Court Says ISPs Don't Owe Royalties

canwaf writes "According to the CBC, and the other guys: In a 9-0 decision, Canada's highest court ruled, despite the fact that ISPs provide the means for piracy, they are not liable for what people download. They continue in their decision that Internet access providers are not bound by federal copyright legislation. Coupled with an earlier story on Slashdot, this is a very good thing." Edward Scissorhands was one of many readers to link to the Globe and Mail's article, too.

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  1. I couldn't pass this up... by Mz6 · · Score: 1, Funny
    "Edward Scissorhands was one of many readers to link to the Globe and Mail's article, too."

    My goodness, how does he type? Must be why we couldn't just accept the story he submitted. Probably had words mispelled and everything... we understand.

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  2. so they don't owe the queen? by iomanip · · Score: 5, Funny

    are royalties treated different in a monarchy?

  3. In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The US supreme court found the atmosphere, specifically oxygena and nitrogen responsible for copyright violations since the atmosphere is the medium through which pirated music is heard.

    The atmosphere's lawyer, Moria, had no comment, but whooshed out of the courthouse with a whistling sound.

  4. Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by b0r0din · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's see: Pros
    1) Not hated by the world
    2) Speak mostly English
    3) Hockey
    4) Weaker music industry lobby.
    5) Lower Crime Rate
    6) No Bushes

    Cons:
    1) Cold
    2) Curling
    3) French-speaking People
    4) French-speaking People

    Not much of a decision here.

    1. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pros
      1) Except for the US and Canada. ;-)
      2) Depends on where you are. Eastern Canada has some STRANGE dialects
      3) Yup. Can't argue with that.
      4) Makes me want to go buy a flag.
      5) That's mainly because everyone is too busy getting munchies to bother with much crime
      6) Oh, we have plenty of bushes. We just don't have any of the George W. variety.

      Cons:
      1) It's only a little chilly 10 months of the year.
      2) It's better than football.
      3) Stay out of the east
      4) Come live in the west, and you too can shake your fist at the east.

      So says this Canuck anyways.

    2. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by canwaf · · Score: 5, Funny
      9) Celine Dion


      You have got to be kidding? I apologize on a weekly basis on behalf of Canada for allowing Celine Dion to wreak havoc on the world.
    3. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah. Up here in Canada, we have some really nice beaver. We have more beaver than we know what do with. They get into our homes, our places of business... And we have to chase them out.

      So when you're chasing beaver, nothing refreshes you better than a nice cold Molson Canadian.

    4. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Thanks for reminding me the Monty Python joke:
      American beer is like making love in a canoe: it's fucking close to water!

    5. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by drodver · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm busy that week.

    6. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 2, Funny

      Learn to speak some French, it's worth
      it for the ladies :)


      You must be new here...

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    7. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by cellocgw · · Score: 2, Funny

      Making fun of a minority for humor is just about the most base form of comedy there is, congratulations. Americans can go on their stupid as hell (Parisian) French bashing crusade all they want, but French Canadians are extremely nice people who are extremely progressive (and so on)
      OK, in the interests of fair play, ya know why the Newfies were in favor of Quebec separatism? If Quebec leaves Canada, it cuts 3 hours off their drive to Toronto.
      See, you can pick on any province in Canada with minimal effort. Just as can be done w/ any region of the US.

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    8. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 2, Funny

      0) Real Beer

      Please, people! Stop arguing over whether moose piss or horse piss tastes better and just agree that it's all ungulate piss.

    9. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I saw that!

      -- girlfriend's mother

  5. ok, so the ISP thing didn't work... by x0n · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, what else can they sue?

    CDR/CDRW discs: they facilitate recording pirated music;

    Sound Card manufacturers: they facilitate ripping;

    Loudspeaker makers: we can hear pirated music through this equipment.

    My ears -- yes! sue my ears. They faciliate hearing this music!

    Emm, I'm digging now, ehh; why not sew my lips shut too. I can whistle a tune without paying royalties.

    See where this is going? DO YOU? DOOO YOU???

    - Oisin

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  6. Terrible! by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a 9-0 decision, Canada's highest court ruled, despite the fact that ISPs provide the means for piracy, they are not liable for what people download. ...this is a very good thing."

    Good? This is horrible!

    How am I to continue my suit against paper-makers and ink producers on behalf of book publishers?

    Oh, wait, I can still do that in the "Land of the Free", the United States.

    (It's the land of the free for corporations -- they can get away with anything. It's the land of the fee for taxpayers.)

  7. Dear RIAA by tod_miller · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please find enclosed all the tapes I made during the 90's of my favourite music, and a handy list of radio stations that I taped them off. You may now sue their asses, as they provided the means for me to infringe upon your copyrights.

    The music is watermarked with a primitive technology called a 'jingle' that will help you identify which station it was.

    Sincerely

    Tod

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  8. Well.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    How about the artists? If it weren't for them none of this shamefully pirating would ever be possible.

  9. Ears by mfh · · Score: 1, Funny

    > My ears -- yes! sue my ears. They faciliate hearing this music!

    Now that you mention it, in the States, your ears would be sued by the RIAA for copyright infringement, along with the rest of your body, if you downloaded pirated music. In Canada, however, your ears could not be sued because it's legal to download pirated music, just illegal to distribute it to other people. No word out on Torrent files, as they do both by default. My guess would be that in Canada you could not be held liable for downloading with torrents, as you can't disable uploading, AFAIK.

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  10. Re:Eh? by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 3, Funny
    I had always wondered what Canada is up to...they seemed to be a very neutral and uneventful country to me for a long time.
    That's just because they hibernate eleven months out of the year.
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  11. This is so retarded. by syrrys · · Score: 2, Funny

    Suing an ISP for being an accomplice to piracy is like suing a car manufacturer because someone ran you over in one of their cars, or suing a gun manufacturer for getting shot with one of their guns....it's all very, very retarded! How can any self-respecting lawyer....oops, wait a sec.....nevermind.

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  12. Al Gore by SammysIsland · · Score: 3, Funny
    I hear Al Gore invented the internet, so it is he who should be held responsible for all of this pirating!

    Awsome!

  13. Copyright Infringement!! by interactive_civilian · · Score: 3, Funny
    the noble AC said:
    The atmosphere's lawyer, Moria, had no comment, but whooshed out of the courthouse with a whistling sound.
    At which point the RIAA immediately started proceedings for a new lawsuit as the tune being whistled infringed on one of their client's copyrights.
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  14. Re:Exactly. by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 4, Funny

    Here in the US, most laws and court cases involving business are not decided on logic and right and wrong

    Time to make a run for the border!

    they are decided on which lobyists have greased the right palms and preformed the best fellatio.

    I'm sure there are some cunning linguists out there, too.

  15. Re:Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm sure glad you yanks continue to fall for our propaganda.... whatever keeps out your unwashed, gun-toting, uninsured masses. Brrrr! Sure is cold up here in July :)

  16. Re:This is a good thing by Borg453b · · Score: 2, Funny

    But how can I sell you shit, when you know its shit?

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  17. No, royalties are treated the same as ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    they are under the totalitarian system south of their border.

  18. Invade Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's time to invade^H^H^H^H^H^Hassist Canada and liberate them from the tyranny of copyright pirates, and introduce draconian^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hemocratic laws and constitution to protect American^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Canadian interest.

  19. Re:Good precedent by Bill+Hayden · · Score: 3, Funny
    for all intensive purposes

    Allow me to introduce myself: I am the grammar nazi. Your remark was cringe-inducing, so I felt compelled to mention that you really, truly meant to write "for all intents and purposes".

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  20. Mouse about the house. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you can pronounce "There's a mouse about the house" like "There's a moose aboot the hoose" then you'll fit in there perfectly, hoser. Now take off.

  21. Re:Good precedent by sparks · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's lucky there are two different kinds of CDs really - what if you could record audio on the data ones? People would just buy the data CDs and avoid paying the levy! That would be awful!

  22. Re:Exactly. by mgahs · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...greased the right palms and preformed the best fellatio.

    I'm left-handed, you insensitive clod!