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KDE 3.3 Beta "Klassroom" Released
twener writes "The KDE team has announced the Beta 1 development version of the upcoming KDE 3.3 release. This release is named 'Klassroom' following the 'Kindergarten' Alpha; the goal is to make this child visit the "aKademy" KDE World Summit in August. Most planned features are there, next week starts the feature freeze. Source and provided binary packages are listed on the KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Info Page next to the KDE 3.3 Requirements List."
An interesting release name. Are we going to have HighsKool next?
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This konvention of knaming everytking witk a K is starting to annoy the krap out of me.
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I'm not sure, I'm kinda of weary of the way that KDE goes around and does things. I was always under the impression that Linux was built up of smaller tools to make a useable operation system, yet KDE seems intent on combining many programs into larger ones to manage the system. I'm not saying that this approach is wrong, it's just something that I don't really think is beneficial. Something that really pops out at me is the fact that the browser and filesystem viewer are combined into one. Sounds a little familiar, and we all know what happened with the other one..
It's one thing to bloat KDE with questionably useful features, it's quite another to bloat KDE with features of this sort. I just hope the default is not HTML.
KDE announced they were acquiring the rights to the Knoppix distribution. A source at KDE who wished to remain anonymous said, "For some reason, we just liked the name."
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I don't know, but I'm sure hungry for some Krispy Kreme now.
They'd be perfect as thin clients for a K12LTSP server. For that you need one decent machine to use as a server. It's a LOT easier than administering 20 stand-alone boxes.
In theory, practice and theory are the same. In practice, they're not.
Major Kontact improvements all-around
Amarok, a new audio player that will hopefulyl replace the awful Noatun/Kaboodle
KolourPaint - which was needed
My wish: integrate Konversation, and get rid of Keramik :)
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
Well, you don't have to use KDE as the window manager. There others like Fluxbox, WindowMaker and IceWM that could suit your needs and aren't full of bloat.
Kudos to KDE for Kuality Komputing!!! Koding and Kompiling have never been Kuicker! Konsole kreates a kompelling kommand-line-interface.
Such a kollection of kompatible kontraptions kan only be konceived by a konglomeration of kompassionate koders kontributing to a valiant kause.
KDE is kosher as far as I'm koncerned.
kde is a "pretty" and well functional desktop, while Gnome is a beast for developers to use, for end user usability (ok/cancel buttons on the wrong side?), and over all eyesore. i don't understand why gnome has won in the korporate world (sun/eclipse, etc) perhaps it is due to less restrictive licenscing (lgpl .vs. gpl)? i dunno. personally, i wish at least the SWT would be kde based.
it just depends where you live.. in many languages things like ceramics, class, academy and other words are written with a 'k'.
besides, it's a handy way to differentiate..
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
The last time i restarted X was when i installed KDE 3.2 almost 2 months back... am waiting for KDE 3.3 to restart X again... KDE rocks !!
fifteen jugglers, five believers
HAHAHA MOD Parent UP!! ! ! He used a lot of K's! ! HAHAHAH!!!
Wow, they're quick. Isn't this like half the time between KDE 3.1 and KDE 3.2?
That said, *drool*. My main interests in KDE 3.3 is full groupware support in Kontact, a working Kopete, and hopefully some stability cleanups. I look forward to every KDE release, as each one blows me away with how well done it is from an overall design perspective.
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So, is there any chance we could discuss KDE in this thread? As opposed to just an endless stream of unfunny "K" jokes, GNOME vs KDE flamewars, and Windows vs Linux flamewars?
Ohh sorry, I forgot for a sec... this is slashdot.
Here is the google cache for the features
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
German.
ceramic = keramisch
class = Klasse
academy = Akademie
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Will the pre-release be Kommunity Kollege?
Is there any knews of this being faster? I've been annoyed that kde is slower than windows. Yeah, it looks nice, but most of those visual enhancements are from nice 2D graphics. I like kde because it has more basic programs than light WM's like fluxbox, but it's still kinda slow. They seem to be taking the microsoft route. Add features before making it faster and more stable. It's ironic where this is headed.
I see all these new things, but I am a visual person, and I need pictures man, I need pictures!
Does anyone have any screenshots of the new features or pictures of why I should bother trying this new version over the version that I have installed but don't use now anyway?
DFossmeister
No Not Again! Its whats for dinner.
The default system menu that ships with Fedora Core 2 is a more ideal way to set up a menu, where the name of each program explains WHAT IT DOES, rather than trying to shoehorn some cute name into something that starts with K (or G for you Gnome fans). For example:
Instead of saying GAIM it says "Internet Messenger"
That's exactly what KDE's menu does. My multimedia menu is:
CD & DVD Burning (K3b)
Media Player (Kaboodle)
Music Player (JuK)
Sound Mixer (KMix)
I dont know why this rant still gets modded insightful...
First off, have you checked the KDE menu recently? Applications are groupped ("Editors", "Internet" etc) and then also have verbose names ("Web-Browser (Konqueror)", "Mail-Program (KMaiL)" etc...). So that issue is totally moot.
Otherwise, to me the "k" indicates it's a program written for KDE using KDE API's. As such, it wont use GTK, Gnome etc. and will integrate well into my desktop. As opposite to "gaim" or "gdesklets" etc. which are written for Gnome.
So to me the k/g/x/other naming conventions are very helpful in determening whether I want the program or not. And for less experienced users, they got the verbose names to go by and dont have to worry about it.
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André
Stop it with the K Krap.
Konqueror: Added option to activate previous active tab if closing the current one
I'm there...
Nestle has recently introduced Kit Kat Kubes
I shit you not.
Then use Konqueror. That's what it is.
If you do a 'ps |grep konq', you can see that it is actually totally different processes and programs running when you're using it as a file manager and as a browser. KDE uses the Unix philosophy of "small applications that can be chained". Konqueror is like the tty - it provides a framework for output. That's why you can run KOffice apps directly inside Konqueror or view images, or edit using kvim, etc.
FTP support ina file manager isn't a bad idea though, as long as you use your file manager for managing files
Konqueror doesn't have FTP support - KDE does. Again, "small applications that are chained". kio slaves such as kio_file, kio_ftp, and others that access digital cameras, printers, audio cds (presenting virtual wav, ogg and mp3 directories named from freedb), and many others allow every application to treat any protocol as a local disk. You can fire up ANY app and open a file on a remote system, hit save and it saves out to that system. There is no need for an 'ftp' program, because every KDE app supports ftp (and sftp and digital cameras and...) natively.
Small applications, easy chaining.
Run KDE, and then, from the commandline, run 'dcop'. You can even bash script KDE apps. Or use perl... or python... or anything else you want.
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"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
I end up with a seriously ugly desktop unless I'm willing to spend quite some time trying to figure out why all the fonts are so big
Feature, not a bug (sort of) - the X server asks your monitor what DPI it does, and KDE sets the font sizes as appropriate. 10pt on one monitor should look physically the same size as 10pt on another, even if the monitors are different sizes and are running at different resolutions.
Admittedly, it annoys the hell out of me, particularly with one of my monitors which reckons 10pt should be enormous, so I invariably bodge the XF86Config file so that everything runs at a fixed 75dpi...
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May I suggest some humor? Perhaps the Krusty Komedy Klassic?
Then you will be disappointed to find out that you can use the pipe operator at a UNIX terminal to make various little programs work together... because that is all konqueror does. Just as grep, ls, ps, etc are seprate programs that can be tied together via pipe, KDE's file manager, ftp client, web browser, word processors, etc... can all be tied together via konqueror.
Konqueror is a graphical pipe!
[1] no K in "natural death", "euthanasia", "old age"...
Or, it could simply go Kaput.
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Contrary to your claim, I find Gnome much better with regards to usability.
KDE is 'better', technologically, but each time I've tried to switch I've been put off by the clutter and garish icons and themes. Some Gnome's buttons might be switched around (not that I've ever noticed), but as long as it's consistent, it doesn't really matter.
I reckon Gnome has won the corporate heart through it's simplicity. If you compare a screenshot of KDE against one of Gnome, it's obvious that Gnome is less in-your-face than KDE. Gnome sort of blends into the background. Sort of like the difference between a Ferrari and an Aston Matrin.
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The most interesting thing about this article is that, as you stated, the vast majority of posts is in reference to KDE naming. Noticeably absent are posts deriding KDE for technical problems, design issues and or performance issues.
It would suggest, anecdotally anyway, that users have no major issues with KDE which is something that cannot be said about almost any other Linux desktop. Observe other Slashdot articles about Gnome, xFCE or others and you will see lots of comments complaining about bugs, design issues, performance, lack of features and more. There are very few posts of this nature with this article and that alone speaks volumes for KDE.
Could it be that despite the flame wars, KDE is indeed the best/preferred desktop for Linux?
You missed MS Outlook "Internet Worm"
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Uh, KDE does that too. Descriptive name first, with name in parantheses.
As in:
Web Browser (Konqueror)
News Reader (Knode)
Mail Client (Kmail)
Download Manager (KGet)
etc.
You can now see a user's online status inside KMail and inside KAddressbook, if you have Kopete running. You can also click on an address to IM them, from inside either of these applications.
To me this is a killer feature. Gnome still has a bounty out on it ( http://www.gnome.org/bounties/IM.html
I really like KDE. However I love Gnome Terminal. It allows me to *really* make a it a fullscreen app. No sliding bars or menus there to distract me and take away precious screen space. I couldn't get Konsole to do this. Also I tried using Gnome Terminal under KDE and it had a few problems. It has been a while and I forget exactly what those problems were.
Once Konsole is as good as Gnome Terminal, I am making the switch to KDE full-time.
YOu may be surprised, I run KDE over MAndrake Linux 10.0 on a 450MHz PC with 320M memory, and an old 32M NVidia TNT video card. I have menu transparency, shadowing, and icon zooming all turned on and it runs just fine. I even manage to run Quake 2 and 3 using OpenGL under KDE with this box, although I usually switch to IceWM when gaming for better performance.
I'm also using it on a 550MHz crappy Packard Bell box with Intel on board graphics (hey it was a freeby) using FreeBSD. Again even with the Intel graphics, it runs transparent menus, icon zooming and shadows with no trouble. About the only thing I had to turn off was full window moving (works better with outline window moving), and it doesn't do OpenGL, but it performs well enough in 2D.
Yeah I know, all this stuff is old, time I upgraded etc. etc.
I suspect that, if they have enough memory (>128M)and decent video cards(anything that will run full colour accelerated sould, those old Dells could run KDE better than you think. Otherwise, use IceWM or Windowmaker.
If my call is important, why am I talking to a recording?
I can't wait for KitchenSync personally. I'm surprised that it isn't getting integrated with Kontact, and it's a little disappointing that Qtopia is like the only supported sync device, but at least its existence in KDE should provide some motivation for people owning other devices to hack stuff up. (Personally I'm hoping for Symbian bluetooth syncing support, ideally which works by pressing a button on Kontact. Sweeeeeeet.)
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