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Star Trek XI: Romulan Wars?

Tycoon Guy writes "TrekToday reports that the next Star Trek movie will deal with the war between Earth and the Romulans that led to the founding of the Federation. According to Rick Berman, the film will be 'set before the time of Kirk, but will not be connected with Enterprise.' So how will they make this fit with the Classic Trek episode Balance of Terror, in which we learned that no human ever saw the face of a Romulan during the Romulan Wars?"

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  1. Uh.... by raehl · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe the Romulans wear Vulcan disguises?

    1. Re:Uh.... by freqres · · Score: 5, Funny

      That sounds supisciously like Sci-Fi pr0n to me.

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    2. Re:Uh.... by b0r0din · · Score: 1, Funny

      Actually, the War was supposedly fought entirely in space. The treaty was handled over audio COMMs only, so the Federation never managed to find out what the Romulans looked like.

      I would say, congratulations on still being a virgin, but I guess that's sort of redundant here, huh? :)

    3. Re:Uh.... by PierceLabs · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nah, it is clear that all Romulan warships of the time used weapons that emitted BLINDEON particles.

  2. Many options for resolving the conflict by gbulmash · · Score: 4, Funny
    So how will they make this fit with the Classic Trek episode Balance of Terror, in which we learned that no human ever saw the face of a Romulan during the Romulan Wars?

    1: Facial cloaking devices that bend light around the head
    2: Bandannas ("this here's a stick-up, human")
    3: Big helmets!
    4: The hero slingshots around the sun, goes back in time, and unveils Romulan faces, negating the old episode. Yes, it's a time paradox, but if "First Contact" could get away with telling Zeffrem Cochran about his future...
    5: Ignore old Trek on the assumption that only the geekiest fans would remember that episode and the rest wouldn't care.

    - Greg

  3. Should be called by Neil+Blender · · Score: 2, Funny

    Star Trek XI: Why didn't I save any of my money? KAHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

  4. West Wing episode 4.10 "Arctic Radar" by spoonyfork · · Score: 5, Funny
    West Wing episode 4.10 "Arctic Radar"

    JANICE
    I'm not obsessed, you know.

    JOSH
    I'm sorry?

    JANICE
    I'm not obsessed. I'm just a fan, and I care.

    JOSH
    What's your name again?

    JANICE
    Janice.

    JOSH
    I'm a fan. I'm a sports fan, I'm a music fan and I'm a Star Trek fan. All of them. But here's what I don't do. Tell me if any of this sounds familiar: "Let's list our ten favorite episodes. Let's list our least favorite episodes. Let's list our favorite galaxies. Let's make a chart to see how often our favorite galaxies appear in our favorite episodes. What Romulan would you most like to see coupled with a Cardassian and why? Let's spend a weekend talking about Romulans falling in love with Cardassians and then let's do it again." That's not being a fan. That's having a fetish. And I don't have a problem with that, except you can't bring your hobbies in to work, okay?

    JANICE
    Got it.
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    Speak truth to power.
    1. Re:West Wing episode 4.10 "Arctic Radar" by KingAdrock · · Score: 4, Funny


      JOSH
      Except on Star Trek holidays.
    2. Re:West Wing episode 4.10 "Arctic Radar" by irving47 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Funnier is that for a supposed fan, Josh is an idiot as always when he forgets that only 2 episodes in all of Star Trek take place or involve another galaxy.
      Where no Man has gone before (TOS) and Where no One has gone before (TNG)

      Now if you'll excuse me, I have some Bajoran feet to admire.

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      I had a sucky sig.
    3. Re:West Wing episode 4.10 "Arctic Radar" by julesh · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now that's irony. A West Wing geek quoting West Wing making fun of Star Trek geeks. So, what are your favourite 10 West Wing episodes? ;)

  5. Re:Kill all the crew... by blowdart · · Score: 5, Funny
    Simple.

    Berman : "How do I fix this"

    Braga : "Particle of the week"

  6. The Simpsons' answer by gspr · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Ah yeah well, whenever you notice something like that, a wizard did it."
    -"But in episode AG4..."
    "WIZARD!"

  7. Re:Kill all the crew... by B3ryllium · · Score: 4, Funny

    omg, not INTERFEREONS! And interfereometric waves!

  8. Re:Oh hell no by kpansky · · Score: 2, Funny

    Voyager or DS9 movies??? Yeah. I would pay to see those characters killed off.

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    --Kevin
  9. Re: Who cares about "classic" trek? by Neil+Blender · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't particularly like the original Star Trek

    Let me guess....you use emacs, right?

  10. Re:Kill all the crew... by unmuzzled+and+mean · · Score: 3, Funny
    Simple they'll just ignore what was meant to be just like they have all other series.

    "To boldly ignore what's gone before"!

  11. Re:They killed off Data!? by CommanderData · · Score: 4, Funny

    Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated...

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  12. Improving Star Trek, the idiot's guide: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Shoot Rick Berman in the face with a nuke cannon.
    2. Bring back Gates McFadden. Irish people rock.
    3. Bring back Patrick Stewart. Bald english people rock.
    4. Bring back Jeri Ryan. Walking plot-elements rock, occasionally.
    5. Bring back Leonard Nimoy. It's only logical.
    6. Bring back whoever the hell played Kira in DS9. We need aggresive people who dont mind kicking ass.
    7. Bring back whoever played Worf. Same thing as Kira.
    8. Elimate time travel. Blame Q. Then elimate Q as well, blame time travel.
    9. Make the Borg kick ass again.
    10. More action. If I wanted advice on parenting, decisions, whatever, I'd visit my mother. Stop talking and kill those idiots.
    11. Bring Garibaldi and Marcus Cole from B5 into the series. They are awesome. Ivanova would be nice too, but she and Kira would likely kill eachother within five minutes.
    12. Leave the script to Mel Brooks.
    1. Re:Improving Star Trek, the idiot's guide: by PortHaven · · Score: 2, Funny

      11) Bring Garibaldi and Marcus Cole from B5 into the series. They are awesome. Ivanova would be nice too, but she and Kira would likely kill eachother within five minutes.

      [[[Easily resolved! Bring in Ivanova...having Kira and Ivanova fall in love. Fans finally get what they want! And neither one kills each other. Countless men die at their hands and at their feet.]]]

    2. Re:Improving Star Trek, the idiot's guide: by TheAngryMob · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bring back Jeri Ryan. Walking plot-elements rock, occasionally.

      Actually, they bounce. Mmmmm bouncy...

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      Don't just game, Dungeoneer
  13. We could always argue about by Eezy+Bordone · · Score: 3, Funny

    How the first Romulan we saw was Spock's daddy.

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    -EB

    Do you ever walk alone like a drifter in the dark?

  14. Re:Odd numbers by Hank+Reardon · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought that number 10 made the modulus operator unreliable, though...

    Too bad, really, because

    ViewMovie( ($starTrekMovieNumber % 2) ? "dvd" : "theater" );
    worked so well...
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    There's so little difference between politics and jihad lately...
  15. Re:Romulan faces by PortHaven · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some clarification on the historical documents you refer to:

    a) there has been discovered a historical error of 4 yrs in the records, WWIII in fact began on 2001

    b) over the years the dialect changes of BASIC has caused some confusion. Recent discoveries have also shed light that the war did not start "after Khan" but rather in "Afghanistan"

    Just as our historical documents (textbooks, films, etc) are full of errors so are the ones of the 23rd and 24th centuries...

  16. Re:*NERD ALERT* by reverius · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're on Slashdot. The Nerd Alert is unnecessary.

    Did you think this was "News for Normal People, Stuff that Isn't Geeky"?

  17. Re:Odd numbers by B3ryllium · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ah, ye olde KHAAAAAN! equation.

  18. God here! by CdnZero · · Score: 2, Funny

    He will suffer...he will be forced to watch his own Star Trek episodes/movies for all eternity!

  19. Shatner, baby! by GPLDAN · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who wants to see Shatner play the evil Romulan? Huh? Raise your hands!

    1. Re:Shatner, baby! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      While we're at it, how about Ricardo Montalban?

  20. Red shirts by amightywind · · Score: 3, Funny

    in which we learned that no human ever saw the face of a Romulan during the Romulan Wars?

    This is easily explained. All of the witnesses of who saw the Romulans were wearing read shirts.

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    an ill wind that blows no good
  21. Let Pixar do it by Gzip+Christ · · Score: 4, Funny
    XI - that would make it another odd numbered star trek movie. I hold no hope for it....
    What they should do is just stick with X. I propose the following naming scheme for the next few Star Trek sequels:
    • Star Trek X: Leopard
    • Star Trek X: Puma
    • Star Trek X: Jaguar
    • Star Trek X: Panther
    • Star Trek X: Tiger
    The trick is to not vary the modulus of the version number but to vary the fur color instead.
    1. Re:Let Pixar do it by studog-slashdot · · Score: 2, Funny
      The trick is to not vary the modulus of the version number but to vary the fur color instead.

      I think you mean "rotate the fur-colour harmonics".

      ...Stu

  22. Re:Kill Berman. Then put the franchise in stasis. by MondoMor · · Score: 0, Funny
    Cheesy or not, it is the model for everything that came before it.


    Hey, now YOU'RE mucking with the timeline. Berman's Disease is spreading! Lock up your cats!
  23. Re:Hehe by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm not old, dagnabit!

    With my handy Romulan Viagra McCoy hooked me up with, the green chicks still live in fear of my "Photon Torpedo"!

  24. Re: Who cares about "classic" trek? by Dr.+GeneMachine · · Score: 5, Funny
    >>I don't particularly like the original Star Trek
    >Let me guess....you use emacs, right?

    And there, at first unnoticed in a somewhat offtopic thread on /., it happened. The combination of two flamebaits, the Star-Trek-TOS-vs.-later-series and vi-vs.-emacs debates. Little did the original posters know about what they unleashed, a critical flame-mass triggering the worlds first thermonuclear flamewar. Centuries did it take for historians to recover the way of events from mostly degraded hard disks. Up to now it is heavily debated in the scientific community, whether "frist ps0t!" had anything to do with this, and what kind of deities the mighty "vi" and the world-shattering "emacs" represented...

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  25. This being Star Trek... by ScottGant · · Score: 4, Funny

    They use boilerplate story programs:

    "The Crew of the _______(insert catchy ship name here) finds out that the _________(1.transporter 2.holodeck 3.matter-antimatter thingy 4.dylithim crystals) has/have gone haywire and they only have 5 seconds to respond or be destroyed.

    During the crisis, they find the only way to save themselves is to _______(1. go back in time 2. somehow create a time-warp to go back in time 3. Accidentally go back in time 4. Have Q come to the rescue and send them back in time.)

    There is a middle part of the story that we'll just make up as we go until then end where right at the last moment, when things seem that the ship is in certain doom and with the added pressure of the entire known universe in jepardy, they simply reverse the _________(put techno speak thingy there) with the ________(place another techno speak thingy here) and in theory it should put everything right, but only after the huge time counter on the bridge counts down to 1 second left.

    Last line of course is _______(put in old literary sea-faring reference here)."

    --

    "Music is everybody's possession. It's only publishers who think that people own it." - John Lennon.
    1. Re:This being Star Trek... by leon.gandalf · · Score: 2, Funny

      So Voltaire's song 'USS Making Shit Up' is right on the mark then... :)

    2. Re:This being Star Trek... by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 2, Funny


      Maybe someday they'll mount more than one dish on a ship... perhaps a whole kitchen cabinet full.

      --
      The party of stupid and the party of evil get together and do something both stupid and evil, then call it bipartisan.
  26. Re:Kill all the crew... by lawpoop · · Score: 2, Funny
    "Whoa. No offense was intended there. If I came off a bit strong, it's probably my anger at B&B showing through."

    "No no, wasn't offended. Actually I should be the one apologizing with the 'sorry I'm not a nerd' comment"

    "It's okay. I'm actually not that much of a stickler for continuity..."

    Sheesh, get a room, you two.

    Steven's corollary to Godwin's Law: There is a positive relationship between the number of apologies give two avoid a flame war in successive threads and the amount of nausea felt in the reader's stomach.

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    Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
    -- Pablo Picasso
  27. Re:Kill all the crew... by zakezuke · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm overreacting a bit. Every time there's a Slashdot story about Enterprise, somebody get's modded up to +5 for complaining about continuity. I get frustrated when I think about how somebody can have Trek's vaguely defined timeline from the original series memorized to the minutist detail, but they don't remember the events of one of Star Trek's most popular movies.

    The movies are easier to remember (ok I had to check the startrek.com site to remember them all)

    1. The search for v'ger (aka a plot)
    2. The Search for K'han
    3. The Search for Spock
    4. The Search for Whales
    5. The Search for God
    6. The Search for Shakesphere
    7. The Search for William Shatner
    8. The Search for Vulcans
    9. The Search for Little Picard

    And the rule of thumb, even numbered trek films don't suck (as much).

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  28. What is this continuity thing you speak of? by person-0.9a · · Score: 3, Funny

    > So how will they make this fit with the Classic
    > Trek episode Balance of Terror,...

    The answer is: "It won't fit."

    We're talking about Berman and Braga, who appear to believe that:

    a) classic episodes are best ignored,
    b) continuity is an annoyance,
    c) suspension of disbelief is the responsibility of the viewer, not the creative staff.

  29. Re:Kill all the crew... by wo1verin3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They don't even notice when they get beaten over the head with the whole temporal cold war concept that was established in episode 1

    Personally I disliked Jar Jar being in the star trek timeline.

  30. Re:Kill all the crew... by MrBlue+VT · · Score: 2, Funny

    Doctor Hibbert: What are you doing? You're wasting thousands of dollars worth of Interfereons!
    Homer: Well, you're interfereon with our good time!
    Homer squirts some into Hibbert's mouth
    Doctor Hibbert: What do you know? That cured my canker sores.

  31. Re:Kill Berman. Then put the franchise in stasis. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    and now Enterprise with unimaginative story lines and a reliance on tight-costumed bimbos
    Hey! bash the story lines all you want, but leave the tight-costumed bimbos alone!
  32. Re:Kill all the crew... by pclminion · · Score: 2, Funny
    The only reason Rodenberry isn't spinning in his grave is that his ashes are in orbit.

    Maybe his ashes are spinning in orbit. Is his orbit getting higher? Have we found a way to extract zero-point energy from the gravitational potential of Gene Roddenberry's spinning ashes?!

    Terrible Star Trek Series: They Keep Gene Spinning In His Capsule, And Your Lights On (tm)

  33. Re:Kill all the crew... by why-is-it · · Score: 3, Funny
    If we just accept B&B's screwed up timeline, then we'll have to accept that Star Trek is finally dead.

    Not until Netcraft confirms it!

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    *** Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?
  34. Re:Kill all the crew... by ringbarer · · Score: 0, Funny

    Many people wish they could.

    --
    "Why did they cancel my favorite Sci-Fi show? I downloaded ALL the episodes!"
  35. What about "Star Trek XII: So Very Tired"? by gphinch · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sulu: Captain, the Klingons are decloaking

    Kirk: (smacks forhead) Again with the Klingons? Full power Mr. Scott!

    Scotty: (feebly attempts to reach the controls but his belly prevents him) I just can't do it captain, I cannot reach the buttons!

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    in bed.
  36. Re:Kill all the crew... by Grant_Watson · · Score: 2, Funny

    "9. The Search for Little Picard

    "And the rule of thumb, even numbered trek films don't suck (as much)."

    You left out Insurrection (at number 9). That makes Nemesis number 10, and Nemesis sucked muchly.

  37. How will they make it fit? by Snaller · · Score: 2, Funny

    Short answer: They won't.

    Its Berman after all.

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  38. in the bilblical sence by Phantom_of_the_Opera · · Score: 2, Funny

    They mean, seen in the biblical sense!

  39. Re:Humans will get to see Romulans by Tatarize · · Score: 2, Funny

    "... Any time you notice something like that it's Wizards."

    "Um... but..."

    "WIZARDS!"

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    It is no longer uncommon to be uncommon.
  40. Re:'Secret history'? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    Remus to do dillithium mining...

    Boy, they'd sure be in a pickle then, wouldn't they.

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    The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
  41. Re:Kill all the crew... by isomeme · · Score: 2, Funny
    "Whoa. No offense was intended there. If I came off a bit strong, it's probably my anger at B&B showing through."

    No no, wasn't offended. Actually I should be the one apologizing with the 'sorry I'm not a nerd' comment.

    Oh, for Pete's sake! You modern kids can't even have a Trek flamewar properly!
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  42. Re:Kill all the crew... by fwarren · · Score: 2, Funny
    Resistance is futile

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    vi + /etc over regedit any day of the week.
  43. Re:Humans will get to see Romulans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fnord!

  44. They'd never do it. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, they'd never do it. Just because jms managed to pull a five-year "novel for television" out of his hat on half the budget of TNG (has anyone else managed to make a drama series---not a soap opera---with that level of continuity in any genre?)... just because he consistently wrote critically acclaimed work... you think someone would actually employ him?

    Come on! He enforced a "no cute animals, no robots" rule for B5! How would the small-minded Paramount execs manage to get him to put in big-boobed women in spandex?

    "And I don't go to bed until I've made some very bad decisions."

    Kidding aside, since it'll never, ever get made, I'd like to see his treatment of it. It's easy to backseat-drive ("they should have wrapped up Buffy Season 6 without the dead and evil lesbian cliche!") but more difficult to actually come up with something better. ("Here's a plot outline in which not only do I avoid cliche, but I tell a better story. Ha!")

    --grendel drago

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    Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
  45. A possible answer by ewe2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    So how will they make this fit with the Classic Trek episode Balance of Terror, in which we learned that no human ever saw the face of a Romulan during the Romulan Wars?

    They wore masks?

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