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The New York Times On Earth's Magnetic Flip-Flop

TolkiEinstein writes "The New York Times reports that, relatively speaking, compasses may soon point South. It's long been known that Earth flips magnetically every half-million years or so, and, with the north pole's magnetic field at about 10-15 percent [less than] its strength of 150 years ago, many geologists feel a flip is coming up. Computer simulations also suggest that the current state of the magnetic field is indicative of an upcoming flip. Though it would take hundreds of years to complete, the impact on life may be significant but not catastrophic, including phenomena such as power-outages, satellite malfunctions and disruptions in the rhythmic functions of some animals such as loggerhead turtles. The EU plans to launch a trio of satellites in 2009 to assume polar orbits & monitor the field." (Cross your fingers for some nice solar wind.) Update: 07/13 17:02 GMT by T : Note: the summary here originally misstated the Times' article; the field 's strength has decreased 10-15 percent, rather than to 10-15 percent.

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  1. Worldwide Aurora by TyrranzzX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And, since the magnetic field will be weakened, there'll be a supposed worldwide 24/7 aurora. Now that's kewl.

    1. Re:Worldwide Aurora by PhxBlue · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Someone watched "The Core" one time too many. Earth's magnetic field does nothing to deflect UV radiation. I would recommend lead-lined clothing, not more sunblock. :)

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  2. I for one.. by caston · · Score: 5, Funny
    I for one welcome myself as part of the new Australian overlords...

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  3. Turtles by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 5, Funny
    "and disruptions in the rhythmic functions of some animals such as loggerhead turtles. "

    Could they have possibly picked a more random animal for that example?

    And won't someone please think of the turtles?!?!?!?!?!

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  4. Hollywood Blockbuster? by BigDork1001 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Am I the only one who sees this becoming the next Hollywood blockbuster disaster movie? They've done asteroids, tidal waves, volcanos, global warming/cooling, alien invasion, and so they have to be digging for ideas. And of course in true Hollywood fashion they'll toss science out of the window for the sake of a better film.

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    1. Re:Hollywood Blockbuster? by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 5, Funny
      And of course in true Hollywood fashion they'll toss science out of the window for the sake of a better film.

      Rephrase this: "...for the sake of more special effects."

    2. Re:Hollywood Blockbuster? by mork · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > Am I the only one who sees this becoming the
      > next Hollywood blockbuster disaster movie?

      They have, see "The Core"

      > And of course in true Hollywood fashion
      > they'll toss science out of the window for the
      > sake of a better film

      They did ...

  5. magnetic disks by psyklopz · · Score: 5, Funny

    I had my homework al done, but the magnetic poles flipped and wiped my harddrive...

  6. Re:Bush's fault by malchus842 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Modded funny, but you just watch - people WILL blame the government when it happens. No matter how much you try to explain, no matter how clear the explainations are, a significant number of people are going to blame the government.

    It's also the case that whoever is in office is going to get burned by the problems - blamed for "lack of preparedness" or "failure to respond to the situation" etc, etc. And there will be calls for huge governmennt expenditures to "fix" or "solve" the problem.

  7. Donate Fridge Magnets Now! by G4from128k · · Score: 5, Funny

    What if we all donated spare refrigerator magnets, magnets from old hard disks, etc. and carefully arranged them at the north and south poles. These giant piles would hold the poles in place. Perhaps a lucky chain letter spam from Bill Gates would help get people to donate magnets to the cause.

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    1. Re:Donate Fridge Magnets Now! by Scarblac · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just be careful to cut them in half first, sending the north half to the north pole and vice versa, because otherwise it wouldn't work of course.

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  8. Time for the editor to RTFA by johnmig · · Score: 5, Informative

    It has to be pointed out that there is a significant difference between "The field's strength has waned 10 to 15 percent." which is what the article says; and "the north pole's magnetic field at about 10-15 percent it's strength of 150 years ago" which is what Timothy says. The former means that the field strength is still 85 to 90 percent of the original value (still nearly intact), while the latter means that it is only 10-15 percent of that value (nearly gone). This distiction not insignificant. That being said, it's still neat to follow (even though I don't think that I'll be around at the end).

  9. Re:Mayan Calendar ends in 2012, coincidence ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The seasons are such because of the earth's tilt, rather than any magnetic effects.

    If you have kde run kworldwatch in speeded up mode to watch the sunlight distribution.

  10. Re:Mayan Calendar ends in 2012, coincidence ??? by Aardpig · · Score: 5, Informative

    It will be hilarous if the poles flip about the time the Mayan calendar ends, hopefully it will go as gracefully as scientists have predicted.

    Unlikely, since a full flip takes a few hundred years; it is not a sudden, catastrophic effect.

    As The southern hemisphere has its winter during our summer, I am wondering if the seasons will flip flop as well ???

    Unlikely, since the seasons are defined by the orientation of the Earth's rotation axis to its Solar orbital axis; they have nothing whatsoever to do with the magnetic axis.

    I also wonder if the polar shift will effect magma flows ...

    Unlikely; the fields are far to weak, and get even weaker during a field reversal.

    I wonder if the magnetic field has any effect on plate tectonics too .

    Unlikely, for the reasons I give above.

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  11. Typical - So typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    As is the case with most /. posts, paying attention to detail gets thrown out the window.

    From the poster's text:

    "and, with the north pole's magnetic field at about 10-15 percent it's strength of 150 years ago"

    From the article itself:

    "The field's strength has waned 10 to 15 percent, and the deterioration has accelerated of late"

    Those two quotes are not the same. The poster's lack of attention to detail has turned the articles 10 to 15 percent reduction (a relative value) into a 10 to 15 percent strength (an absolute value). The meaning is totally different, and the poster should apologize for spreading mis-information.

  12. Magnetic chaos by Nosher · · Score: 5, Informative

    Then real fun with the flipping of the magnetic field is not that it moves uniformly from one pole to another over time, but that as it breaks down, tens or hundreds of "north" and "south" poles can develop which are spread all over the planet - see this article in New Scientist. With any luck, maybe my house might end up at one of these new "North Poles" for a while, so at least I can say I've been there :-)

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  13. Re:Hope we don't get irradiated... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm a geologist and can tell you there has never been an extinction event associated with or correlated to a magnetic reversal. These are common events that have taken place quite a few times since life arose on this planet.

    For whatever reason everything will turn out ok. That being said, they didn't have computers and power grids back then.

  14. Why read the Times for Science? by arrogance · · Score: 5, Informative
    How about Scientific American for how long the reversals take?
    the average duration of a reversal is close to 7,000 years. The analysis further suggests that the timescale of the transition differs at various latitudes. During the last polarity shift, approximately 790,000 years ago, sites close to the equator underwent the 180-degree change over the course of 2,000 years, but the process took closer to 10,000 years in midlatitude regions.
    There's also a good article on WHY the reversals take place by Gary A. Glatzmaier, the guru of terran magnetic reversals. You gotta specialize in something I guess.
  15. Re:Less a flip and more a migration... by phillymjs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You wouldn't go to sleep one night with your compass pointing north and suddenly have it point south when you woke up.

    No. In fact, frequently the opposite is what actually happens.

    ~Philly

  16. What about Santa? by SkreamNet · · Score: 5, Funny

    Has anyone thought of his relocation???

  17. Magnetic Reversals by JollyGreenLlama · · Score: 5, Informative
    The Geological Survey of Canada has a well written and informative article on this subject. Some basic findings from the article include:

    "Although fast by geological standards, reversals are by no means quick on the human time scale. They take roughly 5,000 years, with estimates ranging from 1,000 years and 8,000 years.

    Both the total magnetic field and its dipole component decrease substantially during a reversal to values that range from 10% to 25% of the pre-reversal strength.

    A reversal does not proceed in a uniform fashion. Large and rapid changes in direction and intensity are punctuated by periods of little change. During some transitions the field starts to change but then rebounds to near normal before the reversal finally goes to completion.

    The scarcity and ambiguity of observations have led to two competing theories explaining how the magnetic field pattern changes, and how the magnetic poles behave during a reversal. According to one theory, the magnetic field remains predominantly dipolar during a reversal, and the poles migrate along preferred paths from one hemisphere to the other. According to another theory, the dipole portion of the magnetic field shrinks to zero but then regrows with opposite polarity. During the interval during which there is no dipole, the non-dipole part of the field persists, and the magnetic poles would not migrate in a systematic fashion."

    While the article does little to posit the consequences of these competing theories, it does provide a good deal of insight as to why and when the changes occur. It does conclude, however, that "many investigators believe that the trend [magnetic pole weakening] will not continue and the field will regain its strength, as it has many times in the past."
  18. Re:Why read deliberate dis-info at all. . ? by October_30th · · Score: 5, Interesting
    that the evidence is being picked and then editorially filtered by very biased men.

    As a Physicist I can tell you that that is exactly like science works and that it has worked well for centuries.

    There is a method that, when put bluntly, is like this: "If you put forward an extraordinary, off-mainstream hypothesis you've better a) come from a respectable university/research group, b) show some extraordinary, easily reproducible evidence for it too and c) get ready for some serious ad hominem bashing, ridicule and possibly loss of funds". It all comes with the territory.

    I'm glad popular science mags like SA adhere to this standard.

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  19. Ok, who did it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There was a big "DO NOT PUSH" sign right next to the degauss button!

  20. Thank God by teebo80 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm not a loggerhead turtle

  21. This happens frequently... not a reversal by goatbar · · Score: 5, Informative
    Okay yall... being a paleomagnetist and dealing with this topic all the time, I have to say that it is NOT LIKELY that this is the beginning of a reversal. The field goes up and down at all kinds of frequencies. If you look at a graph of the Sint 800 (sorry it's a tiny figure) you will see all sorts of ups and downs for the last 800000 years during the bruhnes normal period. The last big low is called the Laschamp and was about 35-40 thousand years ago. Today's field is so far above that.

    The magnetic field is a 'random process'. There is no real good statistical predictor of when the next reversal will happen.