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IPv6 is Here
shawn(at)fsu writes "Reuters is running a story that Vinton Cerf of the Internet Corp. for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) says that "IPv6 been added to its root server systems" I like how they said that it will run along side IPv4 for 20 years to get rid of the bugs.
A few previous Slashdot stories out of many here, here and here"
Cerf said about two-thirds of the 4.3 billion Internet addresses currently available were used up, adding that IPv6 could magnify capacity by some "25,000 trillion trillion times."
Of course, if v4 runs along side of v6 for 20 years that may mean that it would be harder to implement an IP-per-user scheme. I don't know. But, 20 years should be enough time to work out any bugs:
He said the IPv6 system would run parallel to IPv4 for about 20 years to ensure that any bugs or system errors were weeded out.
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That's optimistic.
FTA: Cerf said about two-thirds of the 4.3 billion Internet addresses currently available were used up, adding that IPv6 could magnify capacity by some "25,000 trillion trillion times."
Perfect for colonization of other planets. If each human being has their own IP, then we would need to pack a whole bunch of planets to require more than that! They aren't kidding when they say they'll run IPv4 with IPv6 for twenty years. In that time, we won't have used even a fraction of a couple percent of available IPs, even if we assign every human being on the planet with one, and every company with a giant block.
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short article). There is one descrepcy that I'm sure I won't be the first
to notice it, either:
Now, I could be wrong; but my understanding was that the need for IPv6 comes from the scarcity of IP addresses (eg 12.34.56.78) not the scarcity of domain names (eg slashdot.org, slashdot.net, slashdot.jp).
I could get something equivalent to my own Class A block of IPv6 addresses for my home. I'd give every object in my apartment an assigned IP Address. How the pieces of toilet paper get access to the Internet would remain to be seen, but at least on paper (heh) it would have an IP Address. And why not? So many IP addresses possible I could have my own class A block (or IPv6 equivalent) and hardly put a dent in the amount of available IPv6 addresses...but until an ISP offering DSL in my area supports IPv6 I'm outta luck...
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Sounds like an open source project to me. I'm surprised they didn't just rename it to IPv0.4 so they could use the fact that it's pre-1.0 as a safety net for bugs, etc.
It seems like just yesterday, I was surfing the Web, telnetting ports and Cracking warez with little old IPv1, strange - we are on v6 now and I dont even remember 5. guess I'm suffering from geezer syndrome.
This is just the first step to real world-wide IPv6 deployment (replacing the mbone experimental setup). You still need to get all the intermediaries like ISPs up to speed.
an ip address for every human being... and they're non portable great!
i've said it before, and i'll say it again: ipv6 looks good on paper, but their current policy of not assigning IPs to anyone but big isps who will in turn sub delegate them to others is hindering the usefulness to small and medium ISPs
basicly you'll be locked into one isp, or face a major renumbering burden due to the non-portability of the addresses (and no it does NOT involve simply switching the network part)
Excellent. My shoe polisher needs an IP address. So does my bottle of shampoo.
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or does "virtually unlimited" seem like a very silly and shortsighted estimate of the number of possible addresses? Especially because the uses/monopolization of these addresses will probably grow in unforeseeable ways.
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Sweet! All the bugs will be worked out just in time to play Duke Nukem Forever online!
What, can you think of better uses for a mole of IPs per square foot?
"I like how they said that it will run along side IPv4 for 20 years to get rid of the bugs"
Fantatstic! This means it will only be another 20 years before we get a mass roll out of IPv6. *grin*
WURD!!
I posted How the Internet is broken, how to fix it, and why that's not going to happen, a rant about IPv6 adoption, to my personal site.
Basic idea - include IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling software in Linksys routers. This would allow people to run IPv6 networks in their houses and talk to IPv6 networks elsewhere. This would fix a lot of problems that NAT introduces, and would sidestep the wait for IPv6 ISPs. It would also provide enough of a user base to encourage application developers to include IPv6 support.
Of course, this would kill Linksys' NAT router sales, so they have no incentive to do so, but I like to think it's a good idea.
Why can't I moderate something "Wrong" or at least "Grossly Misinformed"?
The current IPv4 net has de-facto weak anonymity via DHCP, proxying, etc. It is effectively anonymous unless police authorities get very interested and are willing to wade through logs. And these logs get quickly lost/deleted.
IPv6 is the end of the 'net as we know it. Whether it will be an improvement is hard to say. I'm sure it will have a chilling effect. This might be good at stopping some undesireable activities (spam, etc. if enforced) but will also inhibit free speech, particularly in less-free countries.
Yes, but do HalfLife 2 and DoomIII support IPv6?
Until these two critical applications support it, I ain't agonna go!
www.eFax.com are spammers
Easy, RFID chips implanted in every sheet. Then when you visit the store
I live in Portland Oregon and every once in a while I survey the local DSL ISPs about IPv6. The answer has been consistenly "We have no plans to deploy IPv6." and "No customers have been asking for it."
Can someone point out ISPs that offer native IPv6 service to home users?
When will Slashdot get an IPv6 address. Everything supports it - DNS, Apache, etc, nd all they need is to either get an IPv6 tunnel from a broker (the cheap option), or get their ISP to let them have it natively.
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ipv6 or ipv666
Take the following:
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
With no ipv6 number you will not be able to buy or sell and it's long so you'll have to write it down somewhere where you'll always have it, say on the back of your hand. ipv6 is simply ipv666 shortended up a bit to hit the true meaning.
There you have it, conclusive proof.
We are in the end of day's.
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What do you young'uns need with all those IP addresses? In my day, we only had eight, and they were big and bulky. We didn't have any fancy network address translation, you had to put your 80 pound IP address in your wheelbarrow and roll it across town so Joe Billy Bob Joe Bob could use it! And ol' Joe Bob sure would give you a sound whuppin' if you was late with his IP address!
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
After all, registration numbers ended the concept of motor car anonymity, and most people would agree that the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages.
This was solved years ago: Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6.
IPv6 works in a very different way from IPv4, there is no need for private use networks. Each device on a network gets not one, but a few addresses, you have your loopback (::1), but you also have your link local (FE80::/32 an address that's unique in your network but doesn't get routed outside of it) and you can use this for many of the same things you use private addresses in IPv4. Oh, yeah, you also get a multicast address (FF02:/32 that other nodes and the router can use to find your MAC address). That's on top of a bunch of other addresses you may be listening to depending on what you are on the network (dhcp, router, etc)
Blocking a /48 under IPv6 is no harder than blocking a /24 under IPv4.
This took 2 seconds.
nslookup
>set q=any
>f.root-servers.org
f.root-servers.org nameserver = ns-int.isc.org.
f.root-servers.org nameserver = slave.sth.netnod.se.
f.root-servers.org nameserver = ns-ext.isc.org.
f.root-servers.org nameserver = ns-ext.vix.com.
ns-ext.vix.com internet address = 204.152.184.64
ns-ext.vix.com has AAAA address 2001:4f8:0:2::13
Does anyone have a link to this information?
Look at the latest draft of RFC 2462. Nodes are allowed to use a EUI-64 address for the host number, but the recommendation for stateless autoconfiguration is to generate a unique number and test for duplicates with neighbor solicitation. You don't have to use a MAC address with stateless autoconfiguration, and furthermore you don't have to use stateless autoconfiguration if you use a DHCP server on your IPv6 network.
On the other hand, some of the docs I've read say the IPv6 address is based on your MAC.
You haven't read the docs in a long time...
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jhw