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Blogging a Ride on the 'Vomit Comet'

An anonymous reader writes "Four Duke engineering students have launched a weblog to document their preparations and impending ride on NASA's 'vomit comet.' The students will study the effects of microgravity on the shapes of cells and the positions of their organelles, such as the nucleus. The schedule is subject to change, but the students expect to take their 12,000 foot plunges Monday in NASA's KC-135A. They plan to provide photos and video."

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  1. WOW! by deutschemonte · · Score: 3, Funny

    I would like to shake the hand of the person that came up with the name "Vomit Comet".

    [simpsons]
    Best...name...ever.
    [/simpsons]

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    1. Re:WOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to shake the hand of the guy at Vimto who came up with that name...

      For years, now, they have been selling a product which is plainly an anagram of Vomit, and it still sells!

    2. Re:WOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Incidentally, that's the name they use for the last train from liverpool street to romford....

    3. Re:WOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the name they use for a lot of last trains :)

    4. Re:WOW! by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1, Funny

      Best...name...ever.

      (Cue throbbing spherical blob o' puke floating in front of camera...)

      I, for one, welcome our new gelatinous diced carrot overlords!

      (Sorry, it had to be done!)

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    5. Re:WOW! by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1, Funny

      (Sorry, I'm on a roll...)

      Some people are being fangoriously devoured by a gelatinous monster. Hillary's legs are being digested.

      (Beg pardon. Must stop!)

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    6. Re:WOW! by Idarubicin · · Score: 1
      I would like to shake the hand of the person that came up with the name "Vomit Comet".

      Only in a well-ventilated area, and only after I saw him wash his hands very thoroughly.

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    7. Re:WOW! by Greedo · · Score: 1

      "Vomit Comet" is also the nickname for the all-night transit bus that runs along the main east-west street here in Toronto, Canada.

      Certainly it is a pun on the "Red Rocket" (the "official" nickname for our old streetcars), but also accurately describes both a) the speed at which the drivers go, and b) the activities of most of the passengers at 4am.

      Someone should blog *that*.

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    8. Re:WOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No two people are not on fire!

    9. Re:WOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was also fully explained on the Canadian TV Series Traders as "The last train leaving Union Station (Toronto) to Oakville every night. Full of drunken bankers"

      Well, back to my trading job here on bay st...

    10. Re:WOW! by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      It's been in use for at least fifty years at US military bases, in reference to the bus on which one rides back to base late on Saturday night.

      rj

    11. Re:WOW! by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1

      Sadly, it seems nobody else found the idea of a zero-g, man-eating, wobbling blob of orange-specked vomit terribly amusing...

      I'm just too funny for the moderators. Yes, that's it! :-)

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  2. How do they reduce gravity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IANAS and I don't play one on TV either, so does anyone know how you could reduce gravity by means of an airplane?

    1. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by sotonboy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Put the plane into a dive accellerating at g. Effectively the occupants are in free fall but it feels like there no gravity.

    2. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by KapnShak · · Score: 1

      Simple
      They fly it up to a proper altitude,
      then initiate a controlled stall that drops the plane pretty vertical for 30 seconds to a minute if I remember correctly. They don't reduce gravity, they just cancel it out by moving everything downwards real fast.

    3. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Anything in free-fall is effectively at zero gravity. The plane climbs to a high altitude and goes into a dive.

      The ISS is at an altitude of about 370km. With Earth having a diameter of 6000km and using Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation, the gravity on the space station should be 88% of what it is on earth's suface. (6000/6370)^2.

      The reason it is a zero gravity environment is because it is orbiting the Earth. That means it is effectively in freefall, always falling towards the Earth, but it has enough sideways motion that it keeps falling around the planet.

      Jason
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    4. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by Ciqala · · Score: 0

      i believe they fly in a parabolic arc and at the highpoint they have a small window where they have 23 seconds of weightlessness(sp?). at a very basic level its a bit like going over a steep bridge quite fast in your car and you feel yourself almost come out of your seat as you go over the top.

    5. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      That should be Earth has a radius of 6000km. The calculation is correct though since it uses the radius.

    6. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by tahii · · Score: 1
      The reason it is a zero gravity environment is because it is orbiting the Earth. That means it is effectively in freefall, always falling towards the Earth, but it has enough sideways motion that it keeps falling around the planet.

      I like to think of it as that yes, the ISS is falling towards the Earth, its just that the Earth keeps moving out of the way.

    7. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by gluino · · Score: 1

      Actually, you can get more "freefall" time than that. I think in the case of the vomit comet, "freefall" starts even while the plane is still in a climb... cut thrust and steer it over the top of an inverted parabola.

      Some thrust and steering is needed because of air resistence, so essentially you want the plane to trace the trajectory (path and velocity) of a ball thrown up in a vacuum.

    8. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by nharmon · · Score: 1

      Well, it's not that they are in 'freefall' while the plane is still in a climb. Its simply their momentum wanting to keep them going up as the plane's vertical momentum stops.

      Its the same as the feeling you get when you're on one of those really fast elevators often seen in gov'ment buildings. Going up, you begin to feel less gravity as the car arrives at your floor.

    9. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, they dont just fall. I joined a vomit comit last summer in ESA's zero-g student campaign flight. http://www.estec.esa.nl/outreach/parabolic/pfc_bas ics_frame.htm And what they do is to fly a parabola, and both upwards and downwards, the plane is accellerating towards the earth with one g, and making it's inventory experience near zero g As for the time, its not usual to get more than 20-30 seconds. From level flying you first enter a steep cimb up to 45degrees, with max 2-2.5g acceleration. Then you have approx 100m/s speed upwards, in additioon to your 200m/s speed forwards. After approximately 10 seconds, you are left with no speed upwards, starting to fall. After falling another 10 seconds you have a 100m/s downwards speed, time to brake! The plane then flattens out and and gives it's inhabbitants another couple of g's to stop the downwards flight. If your in the crazy corner, you can fall for 30 seconds, giveing you 30*g=300m/s, and if you have this speed before you start the parabola, you can have a minute zero-g, but: You have then fallen .5*g*30^2=4.5km, and if you decellerate with one g (in addition to the earth's so it feels like two), you nedd another 4.5km to stop. In addition you need one mother of an engine pushing you to near sonic speed upwards... When we flew, this was repeated 30 times, with a minute pause. None of the 30 students womitted, so the name is more fun than true. K

    10. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by Placido · · Score: 0

      You know how gravity gets less the further you are from the center of the earth? Well the plane flies really high which reduces gravity to near 0-gee. Of course you can't get all the way to 0 gee cause then you would be in space (duh!) so a couple of years ago NASA developed an anti-gravity machine which charges the metallic skin of the plane to a few thousand giga-volts (yes! GIGA-volts!) which creates a magnetic field around the aircraft.
      The magnetic field reduces the strength of any gravity passing through it. This, in combination with the high altitude, takes gravity all the way down to zero.

      Anyway, it's quite a closely guarded secret so don't let anyone tell you different.

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    11. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by sotonboy · · Score: 1

      mod parent up + funny, the guys a comedy genius.

    12. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by EABird · · Score: 1

      What do you think orbit is?

    13. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by peteMG · · Score: 0

      So, if one rides a theoretical space elevator sometime in the not-too-distant future, will there be a point where after getting lighter and lighter, one will finally float out of the chair? Or will the upwards acceleration (it's too early to think on physics just yet) of the elevator keep things on the floor until it stops?

      .. breakfast ..

      Hmm, no, there must be such a point. Ball on a string.. so at some point gravity on you will be balanced by the accelleration of you (essentially) in orbit. After that you'll start sitting on the ceiling. Right?

    14. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by ndege · · Score: 1

      Technically, it does not just go into a dive straight down. It does a zero G pushover. This means that the KC-135 starts a high speed climb, as its airspeed starts to decrease, the pilots push forward on the yoke and drop the nose of the aircraft.

      Because the aircraft is so big, it takes a while for the nose to go from nose up climb to a nose down decent (not straight down, but a steep angle...45 deg to be exact). During this "pushover", (aka parabolic maneuvers) the pilots monitor their G meter to maintain 0G. Then, the pilot pulls back on the stick and the crew feels approx 1.8G's...or, close to twice the normal force of gravity.

      This process is repeated during each iteration. A great graph of this can be found on the KC135 homepage at: http://jsc-aircraft-ops.jsc.nasa.gov/kc135/traject ory.html

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    15. Re:How do they reduce gravity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free fall = orbit = Effect of gravity is negated by the centripital force. ( things do not orbit around something else, they both orbit around a common mass point ) For the Gravity Vector and Centripital vector, If equal, then object stays in sky, due to orbit. Zero gravity = stuff flies off into space. Escape velocity = sustained centripital force nessesary to overcome force of gravity. Free fall in vomit_Comet is a type of orbit. ( kind of like the orbit of a comet crashing into the earth ). http://www.astronomynotes.com/gravappl/s3.html ( as long as the distance is finite, there is some gravitational force ) Henry Cavendish measured the gravitational constant with freaking CANDLES! http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/biography/Cavendis h.html http://www.geocities.com/neveyaakov/electro_scienc e/cavendish.html

  3. they fly very high.... by Biotech9 · · Score: 1

    and then dive! dive! dive! until everyone in the back starts floating.

    And thats how it got the name, 'vomit comet'.

    1. Re:they fly very high.... by Omni-Cognate · · Score: 1

      That's the principle. I'm not sure if they go up and over, or whether they just start at the top and go downwards, but they fly in a parabolic arc, following the path an object would take if you simply threw it in the direction and speed of the plane at the start of the arc.

      That way, you are simply falling freely, having been launched into the air, and the plane is moving in such a way that its walls remain around you throughout your fall.

      Sorry, that wasn't very clear... Maybe someone else can explain it better.

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    2. Re:they fly very high.... by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      That way, you are simply falling freely, having been launched into the air, and the plane is moving in such a way that its walls remain around you throughout your fall.

      In other words, the plane is also in free fall :).

      Jason
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    3. Re:they fly very high.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, actually they start and end at about 28k ft. That's lower than cruising altitude. Max height at the peak of the parabola is about 33k.

      They just do it 10 times in a row, turn around, and do it again. We used to get about 40 parabolas per day.

      Zero-g won't make you vomit very quickly. It's quite pleasant (like floating in water, except you can't swim). It's the 1g->2g->0g->2g->1g cycle repeated all morning that'll get to you. Some people don't have a problem with it at all, most take a while to get used to it.

    4. Re:they fly very high.... by lewko · · Score: 1
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    5. Re:they fly very high.... by NTmatter · · Score: 1

      Someone mod this one as informative. The specially modified plane has some impressive features that'd make even the most hard-core of modders cry. Some of the notables include:

      • Liquid or gaseous nitrogen available
      • Vent/vacuum system to dump fluids overboard (I think this is how they earned the name "Vomit Comet")
      • Breathing air available (What ride's complete without on-board oxygen?)
    6. Re:they fly very high.... by another_henry · · Score: 1

      Sort of - the plane has to maintain some power because of air resistance in order to keep a proper parabolic path.

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  4. NASA is a big fat waste of tax money by tkwilly · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    really, what is the benefit of sending 4 college kids up in the vomit comet, which will cost tax payers probably hundreds of thousands of dollars? if the answer is research, we should be sending scientists up their, NOT spoiled duke kids.

    1. Re:NASA is a big fat waste of tax money by KapnShak · · Score: 1

      Your just jealous.
      Besides, this isn't a space flight.
      Its a KC-135. The flight itself will cost fuel and regular aircraft maintenance. Nothing more expensive then any commercial airliner.

    2. Re:NASA is a big fat waste of tax money by tkwilly · · Score: 0

      Yea, I'm jealous that my government is throwing money away for private university students. And are you kidding when you say it won't be expensive? This is a flight conducted by NASA, of the US government. After fuel, if you factor in all the manpower required to conduct something like this safely, not to mention the cost to prepare the students for soemthing like a vommit comet ride, you have one mighty-expensive rollercoaster. I guanrantee it costs at least $200k.

    3. Re:NASA is a big fat waste of tax money by alexatrit · · Score: 1

      I realize this was originally in response to a post that got modded down, but ... jealous? Absolutely. If they could get me up onboard that thing for a few trips of weightlessness, I'd certainly pay for it. On the order of skydiving costs, anyways. I think it'd be an amazing experience, regardless of cost.

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    4. Re:NASA is a big fat waste of tax money by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      The russian version costs around $2000 per person for a run of about 15 parabolas.
      (Based on ~10 participants). (from a space.com article)

      There is also a themepark considering setting up its own version for a few thousand per person.

      Initially, I thought the same as you about this, but NASA have had this program up and running, making kids throw up for a few years, it can't cost that much, and from what I've been reading its given the kids fantastic memories.

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    5. Re:NASA is a big fat waste of tax money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really... it's interesting, but not very.

      My experience was that it fealt a lot like SCUBA diving. Basically, you're floating. The difference is that there's very little drag in air, compared to water, so you can't "swim" to control yourself. (People get hit sometimes by first timers who try to swim). It makes it more fun to spin and flip around, but you're totally out of control unless you have something to grab onto. Also, on the plane, in 30 seconds you'd better have your feet on the floor or you're going to get hurt.

      So, basically, I'd recommend diving before reduced-gravity aircraft. (But not within 48 hours).

    6. Re:NASA is a big fat waste of tax money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't a theme park ride for rich kids. They do experiments on the plane that require reduced gravity. The main alternatives are:

      Drop tower: good 0g, 2-10 seconds, small payload
      Aircraft: moderate 0g, 30 seconds, large payload
      Rocket: good 0g, minutes, small payload
      Spacecraft: good 0g, days, large payload

      If you want to do experiments in 0g (which are useful in material sciences, combustion, biology...), aircraft is definately one of the cheaper ways to do it, and allows a lot of flexibility because your crew can run and tweak the experiment in realtime, and you get 40 chances per day.

  5. a blog for a 30 second long event ? by Gopal.V · · Score: 3, Informative

    > 12,000 foot plunges

    s = ut + 1/2 a * t * t;

    with a vertical velocity of 0 from the dive ...

    that makes it

    t* t = 819.something ...

    makes it less than 30 seconds of no gravity ??

    And add the final deceleration when g-forces really pull you down ? ...

    *vomit* ...

    throwing up and seeing it form a perfect sphere of liquid puke (cohesion in no gravity should be strong enough) is worth the trip.. especially if you blow it towards someone else :)

    1. Re:a blog for a 30 second long event ? by Beelzy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Right. I flew on the vomit comet (they prefer to use the term Weightless Wonder) a couple years ago as part of this same program. It is approx. 30 seconds of 0-G followed by 30-45 seconds of 2-G. And those 2-G's come on quick, so the flight director on board yells "Feet down, coming out." at the end of every parabola so that you don't end up smashing your face into the floor of the cabin. As far as vomit goes, they give much training prior to the flight on what to do if you're going to toss cookies.. they give you two vomit bags to stuff into the chest of your flight suit for quick access to your mouth. They also give you a double dose of motion sickness medicine the morning of your flight.

    2. Re:a blog for a 30 second long event ? by gluino · · Score: 1

      Actually, you can get more "freefall" time than that. I think in the case of the vomit comet, "freefall" starts even while the plane is still in a climb... cut thrust and steer it over the top of an inverted parabola.

      Some thrust and steering is still needed because of air resistence, so essentially you want the plane to trace the trajectory (path and velocity) of something thrown up in a vacuum.

    3. Re:a blog for a 30 second long event ? by bergr · · Score: 0

      I've done this in ESA's modified Airbus A300 in Bordeaux, France. We got approx 25s of weightlessness and around 1.8g just before and after.
      Google for "student parabolic flight campaign".

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    4. Re:a blog for a 30 second long event ? by bergr · · Score: 0

      Oh. I forgot to add.
      We did it 30 times in a row. That's what gives it the name.

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    5. Re:a blog for a 30 second long event ? by Burstgoof · · Score: 1

      They filmed 'Apollo 13' shots in the Vomit Comet, 28 seconds at a time. Some fancy editing, etc. That's how they did weightlessness in 'Apollo 13'.

    6. Re:a blog for a 30 second long event ? by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      Hmm - here is a little math.

      Start out at 40,000 feet, going up at 1000 ft/s. Follow a free-fall trajectory.

      In 37s you are at 20,000 feet, falling at about 700 knots (vertically) - that is about as much as any large aircraft could possibly handle (you'd probably have to go full thrust to sustain this speed - in reality the wings would probably fall off).

      Pull out at 2G of accel. In 18s you are at about 10,000 feet flying level.

      So, 30s really is about as much as you're going to get. You'd probably do better by climbing at a higher rate to start.

      I'd hate to be the pilot on that one...

  6. Not quite OT... by alexatrit · · Score: 3, Informative

    Quite a few of the scenes in Apollo 13 were filmed onboard the KC-135, which is why the weightless "effects" look so good -- they're real.

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  7. Organelles? by spellraiser · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sounds like a pastry or something. Better look it up ...

    organelle n.
    A differentiated structure within a cell, such as a mitochondrion, vacuole, or chloroplast, that performs a specific function.

    Great, that sure clears things up! The submitter should have said mitochondrion, vacuole, or chloroplast in the first place though ...

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    1. Re:Organelles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The submitter shouldn't have used the exact word that describes the object under discussion just to keep you happy? Idiot.

    2. Re:Organelles? by w.p.richardson · · Score: 1

      What about the Golgi Apparatus???

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    3. Re:Organelles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are tons of organelles, the generic term is plenty for those of us who were awake in high school biology and who still remember the cell process table.

      That abbreviated list would leave out other things like the endoplasmic reticulum, too.

      And no, I haven't studied this since high school, which was many years ago.

  8. Vommit Comet by aussie_a · · Score: 1

    You actually see a scene where someone does vomit in it, but they quickly turn around or something like that. They didn't re-do the scene cause of the cost.

    1. Re:Vommit Comet by DerProfi · · Score: 1

      Which scene? Now that you've mentioned this, I must see it, however brief it might be :-)

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  9. Re:BLAH by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1, Funny

    Actually, the entire planet sucks... hence gravity.

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  10. Re:This is all well and good, by MisterLawyer · · Score: 0

    Apple is making toilets now?

  11. Research result by TobiasSodergren · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shape of the cells:
    Flattened, fractal-shaped

    Position of nucleus:
    Roof, wall, the face of co-researcher 2

    Test setup:
    o Zero gravity
    o Container with missing lid

    Test verification result:
    No verification was possible, container broken on impact with forehead of co-researcher 1 after container was accellerated by a furious co-researcher 2

  12. Re:BLAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I prefer the more politically-correct term of being repulsion-impaired. "Sucks" could be considered offesnive by fellow humour-challenged homo-sapien friends.

  13. Sorry... by lewko · · Score: 4, Funny

    Step 1: Obtain NASA Grant
    Step 2: ......
    Step 3: Vomit!

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  14. Re:This is all well and good, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iPoo....therefore I am (a bad typist). You likewise fail it buddy. iPoo. Heehee. That's a good one. You just gave me a great idea.

  15. Kinda gross by iamdrscience · · Score: 1

    Not to be overly concerned with grossness, but are they planning on actually putting up a video of someone throwing up if it happens? If so, I believe that would be a first. I've heard astronauts talk about people throwing up, and obviously there's the plane's name, but I've never once seen a picture of it happening, or even heard one alluded to. Which really is quite remarkable since the site for NASA's KC-135 says that they've flown over 80,000 flights with it.

    1. Re:Kinda gross by lewko · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I'm not mistaken, the vomiting happens at the bottom of the arc. As such, you probably won't get to see video of zero-gravity vomit formations (hopefully to classical music).... Just some dudes sitting on the floor throwing up.

      It was similar shenanigans which saw Barry Humphries (AKA Dame Edna Everage) banned as a teenager for life from an Australian airline - a ban which remained throughout his stardom and ended only with the closure of the airline.

      His notorious "sick bag" prank involved carrying a tin of condensed soup onto an aircraft, which he would then surreptitiously emptied into an air-sickness bag. At an appropriate juncture, he would walk up and down the aisle pretending to vomit very loudly and violently into the bag. Then, he would proceed to eat the contents to the horror of the passengers and crew, many of whom would start vomiting (for real) as a result. Best...Prank...Ever!

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    2. Re:Kinda gross by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A professor at my university was once a test-subject on the Comet, and they actually /induced/ him to vomit on...the third parabola, I think. He got some great video of it.

    3. Re:Kinda gross by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

      "Just some dudes sitting on the floor throwing up"

      At the bottom of the parabola, they're getting about 2 Gs. It's like a super puke with an extra nasty splash.

      -B

    4. Re:Kinda gross by Beelzy · · Score: 1

      From experience on the KC-135, I'd say most sickening part was the transition from 2G to 0G over the top. I'll never forget my first parabola on it, I thought I was gonna pass out. They have a digital display at the front and back of the cabin indicating the G's you're pulling. The number even tends to go negative by a few tenths over the top.

    5. Re:Kinda gross by DrCash · · Score: 1

      It's actually a relatively simple practical joke, and definitely hilarious. All that's required is a simple can of Campbell's (TM) Chunky Soup,... ;-) Doing it today would be quite interesting, though - try getting a metal soup can past the TSA guys at the airport without a few questions! Granted, it's not a weapon, but they'd have to be goin', "what the...?" when you try taking it in your carry on bag. I guess you can always say that it's your alternative to the airline food!

    6. Re:Kinda gross by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Doing it today would be quite interesting, though - try getting a metal soup can past the TSA guys at the airport without a few questions!

      What about the can opener? They're even more evil than (evil) nail clippers! Couldn't someone use a can opener to force your way into the reinforced cockpit and hijack the plane?

      I mean it's not as though there are more effective ways to identify potential terrorists or anything....

  16. Ok this has to be said by zBoD · · Score: 0

    "The power to blog a ride on a vomit comet is insignificant next to the power of The Force."

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  17. Fun with editing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...so essentially you want [...] something thrown up in a vacuum.

    Yes, with pictures, please !-)

  18. Re:This is all well and good, by AllUsernamesAreGone · · Score: 1

    The iLoo? Oh, wait, that was Microsoft...

  19. As long as they... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...don't play with their 'pocket rockets'

    Thanks very much ladies and gentleman! Make sure you try the veal. Goodnight.

  20. Fly weightless flights... profit! by colonist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Zero Gravity Corporation (ZERO-G) is booking seats for Vomit-Comet-like weightless flights. The 'ZERO-G Experience' has 20 parabolas--made up of Martian (1/3 gravity), lunar (1/6 gravity) and zero gravity parabolas--and costs $2,950 per seat. Peter Diamandis (founder of the Ansari X Prize) is the CEO.

    1. Re:Fly weightless flights... profit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, some of them use a Lear jet at high altitude, and can get like 1-2min of low gravity (IIRC), versus the 30 seconds or so on the big NASA planes.

      I preferred to go the research path, I've done over 500 parabolas, and I got PAID to do them.

      That was then. Now I just get paid to travel to amusement parks all over the world.

  21. ..brain on drugs? by Fallen+Andy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hey people, how can 30 seconds of flakey microgravity compare with *WEEKS* of flakey microgravity on board the ISS? Science. Humph. Just more propaganda for elitist crap universities (versus the poor good ones). (ex Bristol UK grad in chemistry)

    1. Re:..brain on drugs? by ghack · · Score: 1

      Hey people, how can 30 seconds of flakey microgravity compare with *WEEKS* of flakey microgravity on board the ISS? Science. Humph. Just more propaganda for elitist crap universities (versus the poor good ones). (ex Bristol UK grad in chemistry)

      I would agree, except that many of the best RGSFOP teams are from small Universities. Actually, in my extensive experience with the program, the worst teams are from the "best" schools. Take a look at this years teams for more info:

      http://microgravityuniversity.jsc.nasa.gov/activet eams.cfm

  22. Flown it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've flown the Vomit Comet (though NASA calls it the weightless wonder).

    Good fun. Didn't blow chow. The first time you go over the top, they tell you to stand up and grab the cord on the ceiling that runs the length of the airplane.

    I stood up.. and by that time was in microgravity.. and smacked my head into the ceiling.

    1. Re:Flown it by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      So have I - the best ride was when a coworker mistakenly took the ceiling for the deck and rapidly discovered his mistake during the 2g pullout. He looked for the duct tape next time.

      Riding up front was cooler - floating against the harness while the Gulf is filling the cockpit windows.

      We had one poor engineer who spent an entire flight in her seat - she got violently airsick during takeoff and never recovered.

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  23. sky diving is cheaper by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

    don't know if it qualifies as 'zero G' during the free fall phase tho, considering wind resistance.

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    1. Re:sky diving is cheaper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the fuck are you talking about, you blithering idiot ? Presumably the air insied the plane will be moving at the same speed as the plane. And what the fuck does that have to do with gravity ?
      Cretin.

    2. Re:sky diving is cheaper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahahahaha. Hooray, you're a blithering idiot! Way to read the subject, you pathetic boob!

  24. Photographs of Experiments by ghack · · Score: 2, Informative

    NASA already provides tons of photographs of previous experiments

    http://zerog.jsc.nasa.gov/studentmain.html

  25. OMFG! by carambola5 · · Score: 1

    A blog! No way!

    Seriously people. Duke isn't all that special. Over a hundred teams from universities around the US do this every year. Hell, I did it. Guess I know how to make the cover of slashdot come next spring/summer.

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    1. Re:OMFG! by omahajim · · Score: 1
      Duke isn't all that special.
      Guess I know how to make the cover of slashdot come next spring/summer.

      Ahh, but you're forgetting about that iPod deal. Instant CredibilityTM

  26. What's the point of studying organelles in space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Organelles are really small. Your average mitochondrion doesn't measure but 2 micrometers. It can be expected that gravity will not have a great impact on structures this small, since gravity is the weakest force. Intra- and intermolecular forces at this scale will have a much greater impact and the effects of gravity should become neglegible. Any bio-geeks have more insights on this?

  27. All I've got to say is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    look at those tools.

  28. Douglas Adams by bigattichouse · · Score: 1

    Hitchhiker's Guide: How to Fly - "Throw yourself at the ground and miss", a good allegory to orbiting, you just miss a whole lot.

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  29. What's the Big Deal? by lost+sheep · · Score: 1

    West Virginia University's done this for a few years.

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  30. I want a flight. by frantzdb · · Score: 1

    Why don't companys offer vomit comit-like flights? At the drop of a hat I would pay $1000 for such an experience. I gather each zero-G arc is similar to a takeoff/landing cycle for the arframe, but still, a company could strip out just one plane to do it, then go city to city offering rides.

    1. Re:I want a flight. by kryptKnight · · Score: 1

      "Zero Gravity Corporation (ZERO-G [nogravity.com]) is booking seats for Vomit-Comet-like weightless flights. The 'ZERO-G Experience' has 20 parabolas--made up of Martian (1/3 gravity), lunar (1/6 gravity) and zero gravity parabolas--and costs $2,950 per seat. Peter Diamandis (founder of the Ansari X Prize) is the CEO." POsted by Colonist awhile ago.

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    2. Re:I want a flight. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not quite that easy. Aviation authorities has a thing or to to say about such schemes, and the aircraft has to be modfied to tackle zero G for any extended period. Engines need fuel, and hydraulic pumps need oilsupply.

      Go take a acrobat flying introduction lesson. Much cheaper, and at least as likely to induce vomiting...

  31. h8r by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You just a h8r. Next time your school gets front page coverage, come back and talk.

  32. Re:What's the point by nucal · · Score: 1
    This sounds more like a boondoggle to me. They're going to be studying cultured cells for 30 sec of microgravity - I'd be surprised if they saw any change in nuclear position. They'd be better off using a centrifuge to mimic microgravity. They did some centrifuge tests, but the results (or lack of same) aren't posted on the webpage ...

    The thing that they are trying to test is a theory called tensegrity - the idea that changes in cell shape might be transmitted to the nucleus to alter gene expression. A couple of good reviews of this are here and here here. How changes in cells relate to whole organism physiology (like bone loss in microgravity) is a whole other can of worms, though.

    I could pick apart their science, but they were very successful in doing one thing - getting a ride on the Vomit Comet. I hope they get the movies that they are after ...

  33. Note from a Vomit Comet Veteran by jezor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I rode the Vomit Comit back in 1987, as a research participant in Space Adaptation Syndrome (i.e. zero-g motion sickness) studies at the Ashton Graybiel Spatial Orientation Lab at Brandeis University. We did 2 or 3 days worth of flights, essentially a 2-mile high roller coaster (40 or so 10,000-foot parabolae with 30 seconds of zero-g at the top of each parabola) over the Gulf of Mexico, and it was truly one of the most amazing experiences of my life. While I didn't get to do the zero-g acrobatics you've seen on TV or in "Apollo 13" (I was doing baseline susceptibility studies, and was seated), I had the fun experience of being hit while blindfolded by a floating teddy bear in a space suit. While I never got to go back (scheduling problems, an engine failure on the ground prior to a flight, etc.), I wouldn't have missed it for the world. And while I only vomited once (some professional researchers were so susceptible that they had to sit out the second and third days to recover), I will tell you that the smell of a padded aircraft cabin with poor ventilation after one of those flights was...powerful. {Professor Jonathan Ezor, Touro Law Center}

  34. Monzy blogged this in 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My nephew, known as Monzy, blogged his ride on the Vomit Comet (complete with video) over four years ago. Course, "Blog" wasn't a word then.

    Fun reading!

    http://www.monzy.com/intro/intro_mar00.htm#simul at or
    http://www.monzy.com/intro/intro_mar00.htm#tra inin g
    http://www.monzy.com/intro/intro_mar00.htm#cham ber
    http://www.monzy.com/intro/intro_mar00.htm

  35. I like .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like the diverse cultures related in this experiment :)

  36. Re:YAY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    YAY! They spelled it 'weblog,' rather than 'blog' in the story!
    OMG, you're right, they did! Huzzah! *shoots self*
  37. Penn & Billy by cei · · Score: 1

    There's a good account of Penn Jillette (of Penn & Teller) and Billy Gibbons (from ZZ Top) taking a ride on a vomit comet (with video). (via Art Bell)

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  38. Other things by that name. by xcham · · Score: 1

    The all-night buses that replace the subway when it shuts down at 2am here in Toronto, Canada have the nickname "the Vomit Comet". Fortunately it's only once in a while that someone sufficiently hammered will throw up on the bus, but it does happen.

    When I saw "blogging a ride on the vomit comet" I thought someone was blogging about all the strange people you meet on those buses (or ones like it). Hmmm.... that gives me an idea...

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  39. Other studies performed on the Vomit Comet by X86Daddy · · Score: 1

    There's a film titled, "The Uranus Experiment, part II" that deals with the effects of microgravity on various biological processes, and was filmed with the Vomit Comet. It explores some very promising applications of microgravity.